I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about 10
feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it in
the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it. Does
anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price wood
but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
Any help, thanks
Myles
Prometheus wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:06:14 -0500, MPS <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia
>>> and about 10 feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14"
>>> . I going to cut it in the longest lenghts possible and then get
>>> it off the ground and cover it. Does anyone have any idea what it
>>> is worth? I am told it it very high price wood but I have know
>>> idea who would be interested in it.
>>
>> Spell check, PLEASE. That just hurts my eyes. Black Walnut goes for
>> $4.25/bf in my area of Wisconsin- that is for S3S wood, random widths
>> and lengths. In other words, it's probably worth a whole pile of
>> money.
Isn't there some funny kind of warning that goes with black walnut? the
dust? something?
Jois
Repost this, along with name of the town and state you're in at
www.forestryforum.com
MPS wrote:
> I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about 10
> feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it in
> the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it. Does
> anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price wood
> but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
>
> Any help, thanks
>
> Myles
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:47:56 -0400, firstjois <[email protected]> wrote:
> Isn't there some funny kind of warning that goes with black walnut? the
> dust? something?
A very good list of various woods and their hazards can be found here:
http://www.mimf.com/archives/toxic.htm
Bookmark it, it's a good reference.
Dave Hinz
it's worthless and nobody wants it, it's toxic so the land fills wont take
it and you need to call the Hazmat guys to take it away. having said that
because I'm your friend I'll take it off your hands at no charge :)
MPS wrote:
> I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about
> 10
> feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it
> in
> the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it.
> Does
> anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price
> wood but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
>
> Any help, thanks
>
> Myles
MPS wrote:
> I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about 10
> feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it in
> the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it. Does
> anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price wood
> but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
Try this link for turners in your area.
http://www.woodturner.org/community/chapters/members.pl?submit=Chapter+List#GA
If you aren't in GA, the other states are there as well.
Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:06:14 -0500, MPS <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about 10
>feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it in
>the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it. Does
>anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price wood
>but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
Spell check, PLEASE. That just hurts my eyes. Black Walnut goes for
$4.25/bf in my area of Wisconsin- that is for S3S wood, random widths
and lengths. In other words, it's probably worth a whole pile of
money.
Prometheus responds:
>>I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about
>10
>>feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it
>in
>>the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it.
>Does
>>anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price
>wood
>>but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
>
>Spell check, PLEASE. That just hurts my eyes. Black Walnut goes for
>$4.25/bf in my area of Wisconsin- that is for S3S wood, random widths
>and lengths. In other words, it's probably worth a whole pile of
>money.
Probably not. I can buy walnut around here, green and rough, for less than a
quarter of that price. It may possibly be worth a whole pile of money, but only
after it's turned into boards, kiln-dried (or air dried), and surfaced. The
machinery to do all that is costly. The OP needs to check out Wood-Mizer and
get someone in to slice that tree before it is ruined. Stack and sticker, or
have kiln dried (if he can find a kiln owner). When that's done, he can either
sell it rough, or surface it and sell it.
Charlie Self
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the
well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and
vindicator only of her own." John Quincy Adams
PLEASE do not kiln-dry the walnut. It looks sooooo much nicer air dried.
I'd look at my neighbors' losses and share the cost of that wood-mizer with
them. Imagine they've got all they can handle, though.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
The OP needs to check out Wood-Mizer and
> get someone in to slice that tree before it is ruined. Stack and sticker,
or
> have kiln dried (if he can find a kiln owner). When that's done, he can
either
> sell it rough, or surface it and sell it.
George writes:
>PLEASE do not kiln-dry the walnut. It looks sooooo much nicer air dried.
>
>I'd look at my neighbors' losses and share the cost of that wood-mizer with
>them. Imagine they've got all they can handle, though.
>
>"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
> The OP needs to check out Wood-Mizer and
>> get someone in to slice that tree before it is ruined. Stack and sticker,
>or
>> have kiln dried (if he can find a kiln owner). When that's done, he can
>either
>> sell it rough, or surface it and sell it.
It is steaming that kills the color in walnut, not kiln drying. Both kiln dried
and air dried walnut lose their wilder colors in a short time anyway, just as
most wildly colored domestic woods do. Actually, we might say most woods. Most
will tend to the brown, dark or light, given enough time. Walnut tends to
lighten a bit, while cherry darkens. With enough time, they can almost match.
Charlie Self
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the
well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and
vindicator only of her own." John Quincy Adams
Lemme see- if you add (kiln) heat to wet wood it generates - any guesses?
I've read all that about walnut losing its color with time, and I guess what
the guy sold me as walnut thirty-some years ago must not be, because it
still shows the subtle purples and reds it always did. The veneer on the
plywood tops, which of course was steamed in the slicing process, has lost a
lot of color that merely re-coating won't get back.
Steaming doesn't require that it be injection of same to match sapwood,
which is another process.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George writes:
>
> >PLEASE do not kiln-dry the walnut. It looks sooooo much nicer air dried.
>
> It is steaming that kills the color in walnut, not kiln drying. Both kiln
dried
> and air dried walnut lose their wilder colors in a short time anyway, just
as
> most wildly colored domestic woods do. Actually, we might say most woods.
Most
> will tend to the brown, dark or light, given enough time. Walnut tends to
> lighten a bit, while cherry darkens. With enough time, they can almost
match.
>
George responds:
>Lemme see- if you add (kiln) heat to wet wood it generates - any guesses?
At what temp does water boil, forming steam? At what temp is walnut kiln dried?
Last step temps are about 200 degs. F. Now, it's a good idea to avoid walnut
that has been "conditioned" which is having steam injected, but...
Charlie Self
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the
well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and
vindicator only of her own." John Quincy Adams
True enough, 212F isn't in any but the lousiest kiln-operator's schedule,
but the active evolution of moisture under heat is enough to change the wood
in both color and working characteristics.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George responds:
>
> >Lemme see- if you add (kiln) heat to wet wood it generates - any guesses?
>
> At what temp does water boil, forming steam? At what temp is walnut kiln
dried?
>
> Last step temps are about 200 degs. F. Now, it's a good idea to avoid
walnut
> that has been "conditioned" which is having steam injected, but...
>
> Charlie Self
> "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the
> well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and
> vindicator only of her own." John Quincy Adams
"MPS" wrote in message
> I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about
10
> feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it
in
> the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it.
Does
> anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price
wood
> but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
Be aware that in some parts of the country, much of the valuable part of the
walnut tree (burl) may be at or below ground level, so you might want to be
on the safe side and check with someone locally before you go chopping it
up.
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www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 7/10/04
In article <[email protected]>,
MPS <[email protected]> wrote:
> Trunk is 20" dia and about 10
> feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it in
> the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it.
> Does
> anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price wood
> but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
I don't think you'll be retiring any time soon. A 20" tree is going to
be limited a bit in the diameter of the heartwood. It's the heartwood
(the dark center) that is what people buy black walnut for. Also, though
I'm not sure about this, the tree may have suffered internal damage from
the high winds like wind shake (splits within the core of the tree) that
will lower the useablity of the wood for lumber.
You might wish to contact a local turning group - those guys are well
versed in harvesting their own stock. They also often have connections
to folks who cut such "yard" trees into lumber. If you can post your
town and state, I'll try to locate a turning chapter of the Am. Assoc.
of Woodturners for you.
--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
--
"Osama WHO?" asked *.
In article <[email protected]>,
Prometheus <[email protected]> wrote:
> Spell check, PLEASE. That just hurts my eyes. Black Walnut goes for
> $4.25/bf in my area of Wisconsin- that is for S3S wood, random widths
> and lengths. In other words, it's probably worth a whole pile of
> money.
Now don't go and get the guy all excited. As I mentioned in my reply to
him, the useable lumber section is going to be diminished a bit by the
several inches of sapwood. Then you've got the pith area that needs to
be cut around. Then you've got to have it sawn and dried. Air drying
will take a year or two or three, depending - or else pay to have it
kiln dried by a commercial outfit. To get your S3S lumber then it needs
to go to a mill for further dimensioning. All this costs time,
transportation and money. The guy really doesn't have a lot of potential
lumber there - a 20" tree is on the small side, especially when there's
only one of them to set up and handle.
If the tree was unusually figured in some way then it may be more
worthwhile - but also as someone else mentioned, the money in Black
Walnuts is usually found in the root/trunk transition for gunstocks. If
this tree was broken by the hurrycane, this area would be toast. If the
tree was blown over then in such a young tree (indicated by the size)
the highly prized and expensive gunstock quality figuring just hasn't
developed yet.
Don't misunderstand. From a woodworker's point of view, it would be
worthwhile to harvest what lumber is possible from it - from an income
point of view it's not likely to be very lucrative.
--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:06:14 -0500, MPS <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about 10
>feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it in
>the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it. Does
>anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price wood
>but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
>
>Any help, thanks
>
>Myles
The guys in
rec.crafts.woodturning
are experts in this stuff.. try them
a member of that group would be a good contact, also.. he does a large
amount of "green wood harvesting"
http://aroundthewoods.com/firewood.shtml
Mac
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:06:14 -0500, MPS <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I lost a black wallnut in the recent hurrican. Trunk is 20" dia and about 10
>feet before first banches, branches are abour 12"-14" . I going to cut it in
>the longest lenghts possible and then get it off the ground and cover it. Does
>anyone have any idea what it is worth? I am told it it very high price wood
>but I have know idea who would be interested in it.
>
>Any help, thanks
>
>Myles
without being properly milled and dried it's worth it's weight in
firewood.