Hey all;
We're looking at (OK, we actually need! :-) one of those cute little 6"disk/
4"belt sander combo units. There are three we're looking at here, Delta,
Craftsman, and Ryobi. This shouldn't be rocket science here, as these aren't
quite the precision tools like a planer or table saw. However, no sense in
getting the WRONG one!
Any thoughts on these? Power ratings are as follows:
Sears: 1/2HP (2/3 Developed--I think they're required to give continuous in
Canada, hence the 1/2)
Delta: 1/3HP
Ryobi: 4.3A
Based on the above (somewhat suspicious) numbers and also the weight of
the machine, I'm inclined towards the Sears over the Delta; but I don't know
how the Ryobi fits into the mix.
As an aside, I'd like to get the much beefier 4/8" Sears unit, but it's not
available north of the 49th. :-(
Thanks for your opinions folks!
Colin (the neophyte)
Check the amperage ratings of all three and use that for power comparisons. HP
on consumer tools means almost nothing these days. It's usually either peak HP
or some fantasy figure they came up with after running some numbers and power
factor specs.
I personally would go with the Delta, even though all of these sanders are more
or less generic imports. The Ryobi ones I've seen really have a terrible finish
and Sears changes suppliers every couple years.
GTO(John)
>Hey all;
>
>We're looking at (OK, we actually need! :-) one of those cute little 6"disk/
>4"belt sander combo units. There are three we're looking at here, Delta,
>Craftsman, and Ryobi. This shouldn't be rocket science here, as these aren't
>quite the precision tools like a planer or table saw. However, no sense in
>getting the WRONG one!
>
>Any thoughts on these? Power ratings are as follows:
>
>Sears: 1/2HP (2/3 Developed--I think they're required to give continuous in
>Canada, hence the 1/2)
>Delta: 1/3HP
>Ryobi: 4.3A
>
>Based on the above (somewhat suspicious) numbers and also the weight of
>the machine, I'm inclined towards the Sears over the Delta; but I don't know
>how the Ryobi fits into the mix.
>
>As an aside, I'd like to get the much beefier 4/8" Sears unit, but it's not
>available north of the 49th. :-(
>
>Thanks for your opinions folks!
>
>Colin (the neophyte)
Still gloating on the JET, eh Steve?
Did you notice the new 6x9 breed at ~300? Looks like a much better table
than the pin and tin on the 4x6, and might be a better value than the
benchtop types for that reason.
"Steve Knight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 7 Nov 2003 15:47:14 -0800, [email protected] (Colin Bigam) wrote:
> >We're looking at (OK, we actually need! :-) one of those cute little
6"disk/
> >4"belt sander combo units.
>
> well the disc is about worthless. way to small to do much. you maybe can
use 1"
> of it. the belt part is ok. I beat hell out of a delta and it is still
going.
> but really anything less then 12" disc 6" belt is pretty limited.
belts/discs
> don't last long and the setup is not very accurate.
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 02:53:57 -0500, Silvan <[email protected]>
>Mine's one of the 4" x 36" deals with a 1/3 HP motor. I say it's "not
>ideal" because people more typically use one of the 1" x 41" (?) for this,
>because the longer belt provides more cooling time (I've heard... I don't
>have one...) With the 36" belt I have to be really careful not to burn the
>steel.
the longer the belt the less heat and the belt lasts far longer. I sure saw a
difference going for the 4x36 to the 6x48. I even get more life on my 6x89 Plus
the 689 can be run at twice the rpms with less heat then the 6x48
what I want for steel work is a 2x72 knife grinding setup. but they are spendy.
[email protected] (Colin Bigam) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hey all;
>
> We're looking at (OK, we actually need! :-) one of those cute little 6"disk/
> 4"belt sander combo units. There are three we're looking at here, Delta,
> Craftsman, and Ryobi. This shouldn't be rocket science here, as these aren't
> quite the precision tools like a planer or table saw. However, no sense in
> getting the WRONG one!
I have had the Ryobi for a couple of months. I love it. It's twice
the machine the Delta is for about $10 less.
It is plenty powerful for the sort of work a machine its size can
handle. It is also quite heavy so it stays put on the bench. If I
were running a commercial shop I would love to have a bigger machine,
but this one works just fine and has greatly inproved my rate of
productionon the adirondack chairs that I am constantly building.
Dick Durbin
Tallahassee
[email protected] (GTO69RA4) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Check the amperage ratings of all three and use that for power comparisons. HP
> on consumer tools means almost nothing these days. It's usually either peak HP
> or some fantasy figure they came up with after running some numbers and power
> factor specs.
I would, except that there aren't any on the sears or the delta! The Ryobi
is the only one that has anything other than horsepower.
> I personally would go with the Delta, even though all of these sanders are more
> or less generic imports. The Ryobi ones I've seen really have a terrible finish
> and Sears changes suppliers every couple years.
Yeah, the Ryobi looked pretty rough--it's exactly the same as the old Ridgid
one, before the Ridgid changeover. Since posting though, I've seen quite a few
places where people talk about the Delta bogging down. Hmmm...
Colin
Colin Bigam wrote:
> We're looking at (OK, we actually need! :-) one of those cute little 6"disk/
> 4"belt sander combo units. There are three we're looking at here, Delta,
> Craftsman, and Ryobi. This shouldn't be rocket science here, as these aren't
I just picked up a Delta at a garbage sale a few months ago...boy do I
wish I had bought one of these earler! It's great!
disclaimer: I have nothing to compare it to, since it's my first
stationary sander.
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On 7 Nov 2003 15:47:14 -0800, [email protected] (Colin Bigam) wrote:
>Hey all;
>
>We're looking at (OK, we actually need! :-) one of those cute little 6"disk/
>4"belt sander combo units. There are three we're looking at here, Delta,
>Craftsman, and Ryobi. This shouldn't be rocket science here, as these aren't
>quite the precision tools like a planer or table saw. However, no sense in
>getting the WRONG one!
well the disc is about worthless. way to small to do much. you maybe can use 1"
of it. the belt part is ok. I beat hell out of a delta and it is still going.
but really anything less then 12" disc 6" belt is pretty limited. belts/discs
don't last long and the setup is not very accurate.
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:36:09 -0500, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Still gloating on the JET, eh Steve?
>
>Did you notice the new 6x9 breed at ~300? Looks like a much better table
>than the pin and tin on the 4x6, and might be a better value than the
>benchtop types for that reason.
(G) the 6x9 would not be bad but less then a 12" DISC is a bit small for a lot
of use. hell 12" does not let you use much really.
>Agree. Mine is going south after about three years, and I'm not going to
>fix it. When it dies, I'll get a bigger one, or probably just do without
>since I'm turning into a Neander, and a planed surface looks better anyway.
>The only thing I've used it for in the last few months is grinding plane
>irons and chisels, for which it works, but isn't really ideal.
You just need th touch. I used to use mine to grind my steel in making plane
irons. I flattened a lot of planes on it. I flattened 65 infills sides on it and
did a lot of other work. the bearing scream at me but it is still going.
my jet 6x48 has ground thousands of plane irons without a hiccup.
Fishn2much wrote:
> I had one of those cute little outfits. They are fine for hobby stuff but
> very under powered. Go to the 6"x48" Delta. You will be much happier in
> the long run.
Agree. Mine is going south after about three years, and I'm not going to
fix it. When it dies, I'll get a bigger one, or probably just do without
since I'm turning into a Neander, and a planed surface looks better anyway.
The only thing I've used it for in the last few months is grinding plane
irons and chisels, for which it works, but isn't really ideal.
These things are fine for little stuff, but they're just not big enough for
projects of any size, and the anemic motor is very, very easy to choke. I
can bring it to a screeching halt with a 1/4" chisel without pressing hard
at all.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Steve Knight wrote:
>>anyway. The only thing I've used it for in the last few months is grinding
>>plane irons and chisels, for which it works, but isn't really ideal.
>
> You just need th touch. I used to use mine to grind my steel in making
> plane irons. I flattened a lot of planes on it. I flattened 65 infills
> sides on it and did a lot of other work. the bearing scream at me but it
> is still going. my jet 6x48 has ground thousands of plane irons without a
> hiccup.
Mine's one of the 4" x 36" deals with a 1/3 HP motor. I say it's "not
ideal" because people more typically use one of the 1" x 41" (?) for this,
because the longer belt provides more cooling time (I've heard... I don't
have one...) With the 36" belt I have to be really careful not to burn the
steel.
Sure beats hand grinding though. I started off going through two packs of
60 grit every time I needed to make a large angle change. Now I have an
auxillary table screwed to the side of the platten, so I can use the same
guide for both grinding and honing without taking the item out. Working
out great so far.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
You want beefy? Harbor Freight / Central Machinery has a 6"x48" belt / 9"
disc - 1 hp motor. $150 includes stand.
--
Be sure to check out Joe's and Betty's webpages...
http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/kb8qlrjoe/index.html
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Check the amperage ratings of all three and use that for power
comparisons. HP
> on consumer tools means almost nothing these days. It's usually either
peak HP
> or some fantasy figure they came up with after running some numbers and
power
> factor specs.
>
> I personally would go with the Delta, even though all of these sanders are
more
> or less generic imports. The Ryobi ones I've seen really have a terrible
finish
> and Sears changes suppliers every couple years.
>
> GTO(John)
>
> >Hey all;
> >
> >We're looking at (OK, we actually need! :-) one of those cute little
6"disk/
> >4"belt sander combo units. There are three we're looking at here, Delta,
> >Craftsman, and Ryobi. This shouldn't be rocket science here, as these
aren't
> >quite the precision tools like a planer or table saw. However, no sense
in
> >getting the WRONG one!
> >
> >Any thoughts on these? Power ratings are as follows:
> >
> >Sears: 1/2HP (2/3 Developed--I think they're required to give continuous
in
> >Canada, hence the 1/2)
> >Delta: 1/3HP
> >Ryobi: 4.3A
> >
> >Based on the above (somewhat suspicious) numbers and also the weight of
> >the machine, I'm inclined towards the Sears over the Delta; but I don't
know
> >how the Ryobi fits into the mix.
> >
> >As an aside, I'd like to get the much beefier 4/8" Sears unit, but it's
not
> >available north of the 49th. :-(
> >
> >Thanks for your opinions folks!
> >
> >Colin (the neophyte)