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Bob Beckwith

01/01/2005 7:15 PM

My First Router???

I have lots of information about routers and have decided what I want
is a 2-3HP V/S fixed base router to use mainly in a table and I want
to be able to adjust the depth from above the table and I want to be
able to change bits above the table as simply and conveniently as
possible. I have seen the material and reviews of the PC 890 series
and they have all the features I want but I am not impressed with all
the reviews. Many reviews have been less than complementary. What
other choices do I have given the qualities of the router I want to
purchase. Any and all help great fully accepted. Thanks


This topic has 9 replies

Gg

"G.E.R.R.Y."

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

02/01/2005 11:22 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Bob G.
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I have no problem spending 3 seconds

> I mean it takes all of 5 seconds to do

C'mon now, which is it? Enquiring minds... ;-)

Gerry

JJ

JGS

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

02/01/2005 7:59 AM

Hi Bob,
The ability to change bits from above the table is great. However, I am
not so sure anymore that depth adjustment from above the table is that
much of a deal stopping feature anymore. A couple of years with my
Triton has me thinking this way. Easy above the table bit changes and 5
second under the table height adjustment. If I had to go back to having
just one router, it would be the Triton. Cheers, JG

Bob Beckwith wrote:

> I have lots of information about routers and have decided what I want
> is a 2-3HP V/S fixed base router to use mainly in a table and I want
> to be able to adjust the depth from above the table and I want to be
> able to change bits above the table as simply and conveniently as
> possible. I have seen the material and reviews of the PC 890 series
> and they have all the features I want but I am not impressed with all
> the reviews. Many reviews have been less than complementary. What
> other choices do I have given the qualities of the router I want to
> purchase. Any and all help great fully accepted. Thanks

En

Eugene

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

01/01/2005 4:56 PM

J. Clarke wrote:

> Eugene wrote:
>
>> Bob Beckwith wrote:
>>
>>> I have lots of information about routers and have decided what I want
>>> is a 2-3HP V/S fixed base router to use mainly in a table and I want
>>> to be able to adjust the depth from above the table and I want to be
>>> able to change bits above the table as simply and conveniently as
>>> possible. I have seen the material and reviews of the PC 890 series
>>> and they have all the features I want but I am not impressed with all
>>> the reviews. Many reviews have been less than complementary. What
>>> other choices do I have given the qualities of the router I want to
>>> purchase. Any and all help great fully accepted. Thanks
>> I like mine. Some reviewers don't seem to ever do any woodworking. An
>> example would be the common need for single wrench bit changing I see in
>> a
>> lot of the reviews. Anyone who has ever changed a bit more than once
>> knows you can get more leverage with a pair of wrenches than one wrench
>> and the other hand trying to hold the router motor, its much easier with
>> two wrenches yet all the reviewers want single wrench bit changing.
>
> Really depends on how you use it. In a table the single-wrench can be
> convenient, _if_ the shaft can be locked easily with the router in the
> table. If you have to pull it out to lock it then you may as well just
> use two wrenches.
>
> Personally if I need a quick bit-change I use one of those Sears bayonet
> thingies. So far it hasn't thrown a bit at me, but I'm sure that day will
> come.
>
Yes in a table it is handy, the 890 has a lock which engages when you lift
the router all the way. I should have specified.

BG

Bob G.

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

02/01/2005 9:58 AM

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 07:59:10 -0500, JGS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hi Bob,
> The ability to change bits from above the table is great. However, I am
>not so sure anymore that depth adjustment from above the table is that
>much of a deal stopping feature anymore. A couple of years with my
>Triton has me thinking this way. Easy above the table bit changes and 5
>second under the table height adjustment. If I had to go back to having
>just one router, it would be the Triton. Cheers, JG
>
==============================
I read the original post and did not respond ...

I have no routers that I can change the bits from above the table nor
do I have any that allow me to adjust the height etc from above the
table...

I have 4 router tables set up in my shop..(2 conventional, one
overhead and one in a horizontal table) .all have a dedicated router
in them.

I have no problem spending 3 seconds to pull the router out of the
table and place it on the top to change a bit...I mean it takes all of
5 seconds to do...and does not require any effort...

Adjusting the height is also not hard BUT it would be nice to get a
router lifter or some device similar BUT until the proices of those
things come way way down (like $9.95) I will continue to do as I have
the last 40 years and just bend over reach under the table and raise
or lower the bit ...

Bob Griffiths

En

Eugene

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

01/01/2005 2:32 PM

Bob Beckwith wrote:

> I have lots of information about routers and have decided what I want
> is a 2-3HP V/S fixed base router to use mainly in a table and I want
> to be able to adjust the depth from above the table and I want to be
> able to change bits above the table as simply and conveniently as
> possible. I have seen the material and reviews of the PC 890 series
> and they have all the features I want but I am not impressed with all
> the reviews. Many reviews have been less than complementary. What
> other choices do I have given the qualities of the router I want to
> purchase. Any and all help great fully accepted. Thanks
I like mine. Some reviewers don't seem to ever do any woodworking. An
example would be the common need for single wrench bit changing I see in a
lot of the reviews. Anyone who has ever changed a bit more than once knows
you can get more leverage with a pair of wrenches than one wrench and the
other hand trying to hold the router motor, its much easier with two
wrenches yet all the reviewers want single wrench bit changing.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

01/01/2005 3:35 PM

Eugene wrote:

> Bob Beckwith wrote:
>
>> I have lots of information about routers and have decided what I want
>> is a 2-3HP V/S fixed base router to use mainly in a table and I want
>> to be able to adjust the depth from above the table and I want to be
>> able to change bits above the table as simply and conveniently as
>> possible. I have seen the material and reviews of the PC 890 series
>> and they have all the features I want but I am not impressed with all
>> the reviews. Many reviews have been less than complementary. What
>> other choices do I have given the qualities of the router I want to
>> purchase. Any and all help great fully accepted. Thanks
> I like mine. Some reviewers don't seem to ever do any woodworking. An
> example would be the common need for single wrench bit changing I see in a
> lot of the reviews. Anyone who has ever changed a bit more than once
> knows you can get more leverage with a pair of wrenches than one wrench
> and the other hand trying to hold the router motor, its much easier with
> two wrenches yet all the reviewers want single wrench bit changing.

Really depends on how you use it. In a table the single-wrench can be
convenient, _if_ the shaft can be locked easily with the router in the
table. If you have to pull it out to lock it then you may as well just use
two wrenches.

Personally if I need a quick bit-change I use one of those Sears bayonet
thingies. So far it hasn't thrown a bit at me, but I'm sure that day will
come.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Ta

"Tim and Stephanie"

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

03/01/2005 3:32 AM

Ditto.

I have yet to see one of those systems for under a hundred bucks (closer to
two, if I recall) and while I'd like to have one, I can always find a couple
or three bits for that same hundred bucks that I'd rather have more.


"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:58:59 -0500, Bob G.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >I have no problem spending 3 seconds to pull the router out of the
> >table and place it on the top to change a bit...I mean it takes all of
> >5 seconds to do...and does not require any effort...
> >
> >Adjusting the height is also not hard BUT it would be nice to get a
> >router lifter or some device similar BUT until the proices of those
> >things come way way down (like $9.95) I will continue to do as I have
> >the last 40 years and just bend over reach under the table and raise
> >or lower the bit ...
> >
> >Bob Griffiths
>
> Ditto.
>
> Barry

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

02/01/2005 3:16 PM

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:58:59 -0500, Bob G.
<[email protected]> wrote:


>I have no problem spending 3 seconds to pull the router out of the
>table and place it on the top to change a bit...I mean it takes all of
>5 seconds to do...and does not require any effort...
>
>Adjusting the height is also not hard BUT it would be nice to get a
>router lifter or some device similar BUT until the proices of those
>things come way way down (like $9.95) I will continue to do as I have
>the last 40 years and just bend over reach under the table and raise
>or lower the bit ...
>
>Bob Griffiths

Ditto.

Barry

BB

Bob Beckwith

in reply to Bob Beckwith on 01/01/2005 7:15 PM

10/01/2005 6:13 AM


Thanks to all who have provided comment and feedback.
I have decided based on a lot of your comments that above the table
bit change and above the table height/debth adjustment is not that
important a feature. I have read a number of reviews and have decided
on the Freud 2000 router. Thanks again all.
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:15:17 GMT, Bob Beckwith
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have lots of information about routers and have decided what I want
>is a 2-3HP V/S fixed base router to use mainly in a table and I want
>to be able to adjust the depth from above the table and I want to be
>able to change bits above the table as simply and conveniently as
>possible. I have seen the material and reviews of the PC 890 series
>and they have all the features I want but I am not impressed with all
>the reviews. Many reviews have been less than complementary. What
>other choices do I have given the qualities of the router I want to
>purchase. Any and all help great fully accepted. Thanks


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