This pin-router thread has got me to thinking -- I could easily make a
pin-router setup, and with a pin router, I could say make a really
nice sign for a cottage.
Of course, I don't know anything about making signs. So, I thought
I'd start a new thread. The idea would be to put something together,
and then use my pin router to do the inlay, and roughen out some spots
with a half round chisel.
So... a few questions that I can think of: can you biscuit join
Cedar? How thick would you need? How would you finish it? (how would
you paint it?)
Thanks,
John
On Aug 26, 7:02=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > So... =A0a few questions that I can think of: can you biscuit join
> > Cedar? =A0How thick would you need? =A0How would you finish it? (how wo=
uld
> > you paint it?)
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > John
>
> I'm not sure a pin router is the best bet for a sign, if you mean
> routed letters into the wood, as opposed to making individual letters
> that would latter be glued or attached to a sign. With pin routers you
> attach a blank to a pattern and rout the blank to the shape of the
> pattern. It is not a panagraph type stereo tracing thing.
>
Hmmm... I would have thought that if you wanted to go all the way
through, you would simply use a guided bit. But if you didn't want to
go all the way through (like say on a sign...). I was looking at
signs like this http://www.canadianimpressions.ca I can't tell
whether the letters were glued on for this, but the closer I look, the
more I think you might be right about that.
Also, this guy mentions 'sand-blasted cedar'... I happen to have a
sandblaster... boy this weekends going to be fun!
(Check out the funny signs bit of the link above. I had a good
laugh.)
John
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote
This would be best with a CNC router or on a smaller scale what they
call an engraver (craftsman makes\made one), or a laser (which won't
go so deep) or with sand blasting but in that case you need to make
some pattern that will resist the sand, for the others you just need a
computer version of the pattern.
Read product reviews for the craftsman CNC before you buy. If you do, you
probably will not buy. Worst reviews I have ever read for ANY product.
--
Jim in NC
John <[email protected]> wrote in news:2667954a-c3c6-4d02-82ca-
[email protected]:
> signs like this http://www.canadianimpressions.ca
Now, that's looney <grin>.
A phone number, but no name or address. Hmmm.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On Aug 27, 12:18=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 7:07=A0am, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 26, 7:02=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:> >=
So... =A0a few questions that I can think of: can you biscuit join
> =A0I was looking at
> > signs like thishttp://www.canadianimpressions.ca=A0I can't tell
>
> Yeah, this is not work for a pin router.
>
> This would be best with a CNC router or on a smaller scale what they
> call an engraver (craftsman makes\made one), or a laser (which won't
> go so deep) or with sand blasting but in that case you need to make
> some pattern that will resist the sand, for the others you just need a
> computer version of the pattern.
I don't see much point in making the pin router anymore then (which is
to bad, because I had such a good design for it to!)... sigh...
John
On Aug 27, 7:07=A0am, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 7:02=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:> > S=
o... =A0a few questions that I can think of: can you biscuit join
=A0I was looking at
> signs like thishttp://www.canadianimpressions.ca=A0 I can't tell
Yeah, this is not work for a pin router.
This would be best with a CNC router or on a smaller scale what they
call an engraver (craftsman makes\made one), or a laser (which won't
go so deep) or with sand blasting but in that case you need to make
some pattern that will resist the sand, for the others you just need a
computer version of the pattern.
> So... =A0a few questions that I can think of: can you biscuit join
> Cedar? =A0How thick would you need? =A0How would you finish it? (how woul=
d
> you paint it?)
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
I'm not sure a pin router is the best bet for a sign, if you mean
routed letters into the wood, as opposed to making individual letters
that would latter be glued or attached to a sign. With pin routers you
attach a blank to a pattern and rout the blank to the shape of the
pattern. It is not a panagraph type stereo tracing thing.
Regardless, yes you can biscuit Cedar but not sure it would be needed,
depending on the case. I assume a cottage sign is an exterior
application so use epoxy with good clamping until dry and you'll have
no problem. Biscuits can help alignemnt of needed. Paint as you would
any exterior house wood but cedar don't need it. Maybe a penetrating
oil stain.
On 8/27/2010 10:07 AM, John wrote:
> On Aug 26, 7:02 pm, "SonomaProducts.com"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> So... a few questions that I can think of: can you biscuit join
>>> Cedar? How thick would you need? How would you finish it? (how would
>>> you paint it?)
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>>> John
>>
>> I'm not sure a pin router is the best bet for a sign, if you mean
>> routed letters into the wood, as opposed to making individual letters
>> that would latter be glued or attached to a sign. With pin routers you
>> attach a blank to a pattern and rout the blank to the shape of the
>> pattern. It is not a panagraph type stereo tracing thing.
>>
> Hmmm... I would have thought that if you wanted to go all the way
> through, you would simply use a guided bit. But if you didn't want to
> go all the way through (like say on a sign...). I was looking at
> signs like this http://www.canadianimpressions.ca I can't tell
> whether the letters were glued on for this, but the closer I look, the
> more I think you might be right about that.
>
> Also, this guy mentions 'sand-blasted cedar'... I happen to have a
> sandblaster... boy this weekends going to be fun!
He has a cut vinyl sign business as well. I would bet that he cuts the
pattern on his vinyl cutter, sticks it to the cedar, and then sandblasts
and everywhere that there's no vinyl gets cut away.
> (Check out the funny signs bit of the link above. I had a good
> laugh.)
>
> John
>
>
On 8/27/2010 9:21 PM, Morgans wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com"<[email protected]> wrote
> This would be best with a CNC router or on a smaller scale what they
> call an engraver (craftsman makes\made one), or a laser (which won't
> go so deep) or with sand blasting but in that case you need to make
> some pattern that will resist the sand, for the others you just need a
> computer version of the pattern.
>
> Read product reviews for the craftsman CNC before you buy. If you do, you
> probably will not buy. Worst reviews I have ever read for ANY product.
The only ones listed on the Sears site are reconditioned. The Sears
machine was a relabelled Carvewright. According to the Carvewright site
they have a new version of the machine out that has been completely
redisigned to address the problems with the older one.