I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of you
may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
and prayers.
Thank you my friends,
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
Look, cheer up!!
I'm an old grisel'd Special Forces master sergeant, and a life long cat
man.., but a dog has been there sleeping with the herd several times.
Thinking in military terms, the saga of the resurrection is that we will
be raised from the dead and live again.., and not only live, but reign as
Rulers over any number of "cities."
When I must "put to sleep" one my children, or have died in the line of
duty.., I extend the same promise to them that God has extended to me..!
That wherever I wind up, they shall also be there in the future as I will
have the power and authority to "make it so."
It seems to help knowing we will see and love each other again.., and
they will run, leap, and jump with the joy of renewal, and youth!!
So cheer up.., hold your eyes straight and do what has to be done. When
my Maincoon Teddy got kidney problems and was suffering so much.., he
understood what hed to be done..!
I gave him a full military burial in the backyard right where he used to
lay and guard his territory! Now he is waiting quitly swishing his tail for
that blessed day of renewal..!!
That's been my standing general order for Stinky, Tonya, Teddy, Poncho,
Tina, Emily, King Henry.., and myself.. for our team reunion to come!!
May His peace be with you..., and toughen up.., get'n old ain't for
sissies!!
Jeff P. wrote:
> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
>
> My heart is heavy and I cry as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
> and prayers.
Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
things you have had to experience. I can understand when people write a
eulogy about when their Dad dies on this board, but a pet? You are
claiming to need prayers when there's so many people in the world worse
off than you are? How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
Robert L. Haar wrote:
> BF - it sounds to me like you have never really experienced the joy of
> sharing your life with a four footed companion. I hope that you have this
> wonderful opportunity at some point.
I've had several dogs in my life. When I was a kid, I cried when they
died. Now that I'm a grown man, I realize that the loss of a pet is
nowhere near the tragedy of the loss of human life. Pets are cool, but
in the end, they are just pets. Just like tools are just tools --
eventually they must be thrown away as well.
I know most people will think I'm a cold harded SOB, but the OP made a
big deal over losing a pet (asking for prayers, treating it as a grand
tragedy). I'm sure you guys don't want me posting here everytime one of
my fish die.
Jeff P. wrote:
> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
> A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
> increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
> by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
> is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
> There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
> arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of you
> may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
> is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
> and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
There is little comfort in what others who did not know her, can say
about your Mariah. The only thing I can say is that it does get better
over time. Remember one thing - this is something you do FOR your pet
to stop the pain - NOT something you are doing TO her.
Don
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:04:30 GMT, "Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Thanks Dave. I knew I'd find kindred spirits in the Wreck. It's been a
>couple of days now and already the hurt has dimminished somewhat (which even
>makes me feel worse!). The sound of her last breath will bring tears to me
>for the rest of my life. I feel sorry for people that don't understand this
>bond.
Amen, Jeff. It's their loss.
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 06:02:19 GMT, Jeff P. <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
> arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening.
Every one of us who are "dog people", and who have had to make that
phone call, know exactly what you're going through. It's tough, but
you have to do what's right to stop her from hurting.
"Sheba" was a great dog - at age 15, though, she was just wore out, and
the time had come to make that phone call. The vet came out to the
house, maybe yours will do that also. I think it was easier on her that
she died in _her_ chair, with a milk-bone in her mouth.
Hang in there. It gets better, eventually.
Dave Hinz
On 23 Sep 2005 07:12:34 -0700, bf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
> things you have had to experience. I can understand when people write a
> eulogy about when their Dad dies on this board, but a pet? You are
> claiming to need prayers when there's so many people in the world worse
> off than you are? How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
> you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
> one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
Fuck off.
<plonk>
Dear Jeff,
I still cry at times for my Golie Girl who died
15 months ago. Her social anxiety matched mine and
we were soul mates. I miss all of my past dog
even though I have two great dogs now. You and
yours have my thoughts, sympathies, and prayers.
Peace,
Roger Haar
**********************************************
"Jeff P." wrote:
>
> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
> A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
> increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
> by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
> is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
> There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
> arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of you
> may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
> is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
> and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
> --
> Jeff P.
>
> Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
Greetings and Salutations...
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 06:02:19 GMT, "Jeff P." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
>our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
>A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
>increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
>by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
>is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
>There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
>arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
>We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of you
>may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
>is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
>I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
>and prayers.
My sympathies for you and your family. Being a pet keeper is
great - about 95% of the time. This is part of that 5% that REALLY
sucks.
The fact of the matter is that, hard as it is, the most loving
thing you can do is have her put down. From her point of view, she
will go to sleep in the arms of her beloved owner, and the pain and
discomfort will be over. From your point, hard as it is (and, having
had to do this several times myself - I find myself tearing up a bit
as I write this), you have given her many years of happy, fulfilled
life, and have had you and your family's life enriched by her
presence. The best gift you can give her now is that peaceful
release.
with deepest sympathies...
Dave Mundt
.
>may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
>is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
>I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
>and prayers.
>
>Thank you my friends,
I feel your pain and loss. As an avid hunter I have had many dogs over
the years, all have been Field Breed English Setters. It still hurts
as bad as when I was 12 and lost the first one. We put down Ernie this
past Ju;y he came down with cancer of the roof of his mouth. He was
never much of a hunter but he was part of the family and always
greeted us with more love then we knew how to give him.
You are in are prayers
Ed
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
>our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family. A
>few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
>increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
>by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the
>diagnosis is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of
>the liver. There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had
>severe arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get
>around. We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening.
>Many of you may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person
>but to us she is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is
>heavy and I cry as I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my
>family in your thoughts and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
> --
> Jeff P.
>
> Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
Sorry to hear of your pain.
....Dan
On 2005/9/23 10:12 AM, "bf" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Jeff P. wrote:
>> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
>> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
Jeff, I sympathize. Making the necessary choice if difficult, even when you
know the right answer.
>
> Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
> things you have had to experience.
That may be true, but it misses the point. For those of us who have the
privilege of experiencing dogs as part of our families, the grief is real.
Yes, we know from the moment we bring a puppy into our homes that the life
span is shorter than people, but they still touch our hearts.
> How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
> you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
> one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
>
BF - it sounds to me like you have never really experienced the joy of
sharing your life with a four footed companion. I hope that you have this
wonderful opportunity at some point.
Thank you JT.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
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"John Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> My heart is heavy and I cry as
>> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
>> thoughts and prayers.
>>
>> Thank you my friends,
>>
>
> Jeff,
>
> You certainly have my thoughts and prayers.
>
> We lost our Golden about 15 years ago (and two other dogs in the
> meantime). Our vet knew his name long before he could remember ours! In
> time, the pain will lessen, and you'll remember the happy times. We
> still laugh about some of the things they all used to do.
>
> Hang in there, and take care ...
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> JT
> Speaking only for myself....
You do understand completely Ken. We all know when we get a dog that this
day will come but it doesn't make it any easier. The 12 years of joy and
fun we've had still outweigh the pain. Thanks.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
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"Ken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Jeff
> I know how bad it is when you lose a friend like Mariah, and I
> totally understand the depth of feeling. I lost my GR Chance just
> over a year ago under remarkably similar circumstances.
> After 10 1/2 healthy years he suddenly could no longer hold down any
> food. The vet did what he could but surgery revealed cancer and the
> Dr put him to sleep while I was with him. I cried as if I was eight
> yrs old again ,when I lost my first dog . Your Mariah reminds me
> of what a great friend Chance was as I am sure Mariah has been to
> you. I still miss the damn dog, but have been blessed with 10 yrs of
> wonderful memories . My thoughts go out to you and Mariah as you say
> farewell .
>
>
> Ken ...... through tears and with a smile... god damn dogs
>
> people beware never give to a dog your heart to tear
> - R Kipling
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's over. Mariah went peacefully with my wife and I at her side. I
thank
> all of you so very much for your heartfelt stories and condolences. I'm
> sorry to be so dang mushy but our love for this beautiful animal was deep.
No problem. As you have seen, there are many people on here that understand.
It helps to talk about it.
> As with other of life's tragedies we'll survive and come next summer
> probably get another Golden. One thing's for sure, however, that puppy
will
> have some mighty big shoes to fill.
It will, too. Every pet it different but they become a part of the family in
no time.
>
> Thank you all so much.
> --
> Jeff P.
>
> Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
>
>
Thank you Owen. Words like yours make my pain more bearable. We both seem
to think alike in that the accute pain we feel at time like this is fair pay
for the years of happiness that a good dog can bring too us. Doesn't make
it any easier though. I came to bed the night before last (my wife and
other dog were long asleep) and I just sat on the floor where Mariah used to
lay. Tears filled my eyes as I remembered the lick of the hand she would
give me each night that would now never be... the little arogant "woof" she
would give me when my wife wouldn't take her to bed when SHE wanted to go...
the way my Springer would let her be dominant when playing even though she
was too weak to play very hard near the end.... what a dog she was. I will
see her again.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
"Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A trouble free life? No. My father was brain injured in a bike accident
>> and to this day (23 years later) is unresponsive. My mother fought
>> cancer
>> for 17 years before succumbing to it. I was with her and held her hand
>> as
>> she died. My grandparents are all dead. I don't think this qualifies as
>> a
>> trouble free life. My dogs, however, have helped my family through all
>> these times. They give us unconditional love and ask nothing in return.
>> If
>> you don't understand this relationship then please just don't reply. To
>> the
>> rest of you that have replied...thanks much.
>
> I think life's losses hardens some people to the point of not feeling
> truly loving and caring for others - or by others - much less for an
> animal. For the rest of us, losses allow us to more deeply and
> emotionally connect to others and such creatures as dogs and cats -
> beyond mere ownership of an animal.
>
> In our household, our animals have brought us much joy and humor; have
> taught us about caring for those unable to care for themselves; have
> forced us to make life and death decisions for family we love; have
> taught us; even frustrated and angered us. The positives have always
> outweighed the negatives.
>
> The folks who have children will remember the times when their young son
> or daughter would immediately run to greet them with arms outstretched,
> a smile from ear to ear, and a full body, to-the-core hug. Sharing our
> lives with dogs is much the same - a 4 year old who never outgrows the
> spontaneous outpouring of affection and joy at seeing you.
>
> Our back yard is the resting spot for 3 of our dear dogs -
> unfortunately, a 4th will likely be joining the others before next
> summer. My thoughts are with you and your family, Jeff - I know it's
> hard.
> --
> Owen Lowe
> The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
> __________
>
> "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
> Corporate States of America and to the
> Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
> under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
> and justice for oil."
> - Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On 23 Sep 2005 07:12:34 -0700, bf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
>>things you have had to experience. I can understand when people write a
>>eulogy about when their Dad dies on this board, but a pet? You are
>>claiming to need prayers when there's so many people in the world worse
>>off than you are? How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
>>you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
>>one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
>
>
> Fuck off.
> <plonk>
>
Amen!!
--
Joseph Connors
The New Golden Rule:
Those with the gold, make the rules!
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so
that
> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
> A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
> increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
> by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the
diagnosis
> is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the
liver.
> There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
> arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of
you
> may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
> is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry
as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
thoughts
> and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
> --
> Jeff P.
>
> Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
>
Jeff -
My deepest sympathies to you. I'm 69 years young and I've been in your
position too many times to remember. Of my current pet family, two are in
the 18 - 20 year old class. I'm looking at going through it yet again. It
does not get any easier. Just know that you gave them love as
unconditionally as they gave it to you. The body may be gone but the spirit
will be with you forever.
This I know to be true.
My best -
Vic
A trouble free life? No. My father was brain injured in a bike accident
and to this day (23 years later) is unresponsive. My mother fought cancer
for 17 years before succumbing to it. I was with her and held her hand as
she died. My grandparents are all dead. I don't think this qualifies as a
trouble free life. My dogs, however, have helped my family through all
these times. They give us unconditional love and ask nothing in return. If
you don't understand this relationship then please just don't reply. To the
rest of you that have replied...thanks much.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
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*Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?
*If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?
*If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to the pan?
*If vegetarians love animals so much, why do they eat all their food?
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Jeff P. wrote:
>> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so
>> that
>> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
>>
>> My heart is heavy and I cry as
>> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
>> thoughts
>> and prayers.
>
>
> Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
> things you have had to experience. I can understand when people write a
> eulogy about when their Dad dies on this board, but a pet? You are
> claiming to need prayers when there's so many people in the world worse
> off than you are? How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
> you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
> one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
>
Thank you Roger. Even now, we are laughing (and crying at the same time)
about Mariah. She was such a lover and such a damm clumsy dog that you
couldn't help but laugh about her. I remember when we had her out in the
boat while we were doing a bit of fishing and she was just lazily dipping
her paw in the water. All of a sudden she fell overboard and we had to
hoist her back in. She'll be a tough act to follow but we will get another.
One dog just isn't enough.
--
Jeff P.
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*If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?
*If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to the pan?
*If vegetarians love animals so much, why do they eat all their food?
"Roger Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear Jeff,
>
> I still cry at times for my Golie Girl who died
> 15 months ago. Her social anxiety matched mine and
> we were soul mates. I miss all of my past dog
> even though I have two great dogs now. You and
> yours have my thoughts, sympathies, and prayers.
>
> Peace,
> Roger Haar
>
> **********************************************
> "Jeff P." wrote:
>>
>> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so
>> that
>> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
>> A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
>> increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
>> by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the
>> diagnosis
>> is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the
>> liver.
>> There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
>> arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
>> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of
>> you
>> may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us
>> she
>> is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry
>> as
>> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
>> thoughts
>> and prayers.
>>
>> Thank you my friends,
>> --
>> Jeff P.
>>
>> Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
Jeff P. wrote:
> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
> A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
> increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
> by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
> is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
> There is little we can do for her at this point.
I certainly can appreciate your pain. In my family, my mother would have left
me behind during hurricane evacuations before one of our critters would be left.
We get them as puppies (or kittens) and we keep them until the day they die,
warts or no.
I've buried two dogs and a cat over the years and felt like I lost part of
myself with each one. I waited over ten years before I allowed myself another
pet after the cat died; now I have a dog that I can't picture life without. And
yet, at some point I will have to. Since she's just two and I'm 51, maybe I'll
croak before she does.
Anyway, sorry for your impending loss.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
It's over. Mariah went peacefully with my wife and I at her side. I thank
all of you so very much for your heartfelt stories and condolences. I'm
sorry to be so dang mushy but our love for this beautiful animal was deep.
As with other of life's tragedies we'll survive and come next summer
probably get another Golden. One thing's for sure, however, that puppy will
have some mighty big shoes to fill.
Thank you all so much.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
I think most people here would prefer you not post here at all...go throw
away some tools instead.
I'm waiting for the vet to come over to put down one of our dogs tonight.
Not asking for prayers and it's not a "grand tragedy" just a sad occasion
like the one that the original poster tried to share. It's a pity that some
grown-ups can't appreciate anothers grief. Or maybe you're just not as grown
up as you'd like to think.
John
"bf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Robert L. Haar wrote:
> > BF - it sounds to me like you have never really experienced the joy of
> > sharing your life with a four footed companion. I hope that you have
this
> > wonderful opportunity at some point.
>
> I've had several dogs in my life. When I was a kid, I cried when they
> died. Now that I'm a grown man, I realize that the loss of a pet is
> nowhere near the tragedy of the loss of human life. Pets are cool, but
> in the end, they are just pets. Just like tools are just tools --
> eventually they must be thrown away as well.
>
> I know most people will think I'm a cold harded SOB, but the OP made a
> big deal over losing a pet (asking for prayers, treating it as a grand
> tragedy). I'm sure you guys don't want me posting here everytime one of
> my fish die.
>
I have traveled that road too many times. It's not a dog but a loved family
member that gives unconditional love. .
--
Art Ransom
Lancaster , Texas
[email protected]
www.turningaround.org
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> My heart is heavy and I cry as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
> thoughts and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
>
Jeff,
You certainly have my thoughts and prayers.
We lost our Golden about 15 years ago (and two other dogs in the
meantime). Our vet knew his name long before he could remember ours! In
time, the pain will lessen, and you'll remember the happy times. We
still laugh about some of the things they all used to do.
Hang in there, and take care ...
--
Regards,
JT
Speaking only for myself....
Thank you Lee. Three years back we had to put down my springer spaniel. I
thought to myself that I wouldn't want another dog but when I came home from
work the next day and he didn't meet me at the door I knew I had to have
another. We'll wait a bit for the hurt to go away and then I'm sure we will
indeed welcome another into the house.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
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"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "bf" wrote
>>
>> Jeff P. wrote:
>>> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>>> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so
>>> that
>>> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my
>>> family.
>>>
>>> My heart is heavy and I cry as
>>> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
>>> thoughts
>>> and prayers.
>>
>>
>> Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
>> things you have had to experience. I can understand when people write a
>> eulogy about when their Dad dies on this board, but a pet? You are
>> claiming to need prayers when there's so many people in the world worse
>> off than you are? How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
>> you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
>> one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
>>
>
> Melodramatic??
>
> I can not imagine a more insensitve response.
>
> It makes me wonder what kind of person you are and how you respond to
> other people's pain and difficulties. Tjhe loss of any loved one is a
> major event and very stressful.
>
> I have had to do the same thing with both family dogs and cats. It ain't
> easy. But it is necessary. It ultimately is an act of love and caring. It
> is the least you can do when they have loved you so well over the years.
> I occasionally still call my present animals by the names of their beloved
> brothers and sisters from the past. This indicates to me that they are
> not forgotten. But loved, remembered and cherished.
>
> Be well Jeff. Tough this one out. I feel for ya.
>
> And when the time is right, welcome another canine friend into the family.
> It will be a move appreciated by all.
>
>
>
LOL. That actually does help me. I like your attitude. I've had people
laugh at me when I tell them that I believe God will bring us all together
again when our lives end but to hell with them. I do believe I'll be with
them again and that does indeed make it somewhat better. This too shall
pass but for now... ah hell.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
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*Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?
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"81mm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Look, cheer up!!
> I'm an old grisel'd Special Forces master sergeant, and a life long cat
> man.., but a dog has been there sleeping with the herd several times.
> Thinking in military terms, the saga of the resurrection is that we will
> be raised from the dead and live again.., and not only live, but reign as
> Rulers over any number of "cities."
> When I must "put to sleep" one my children, or have died in the line of
> duty.., I extend the same promise to them that God has extended to me..!
> That wherever I wind up, they shall also be there in the future as I
> will have the power and authority to "make it so."
> It seems to help knowing we will see and love each other again.., and
> they will run, leap, and jump with the joy of renewal, and youth!!
> So cheer up.., hold your eyes straight and do what has to be done. When
> my Maincoon Teddy got kidney problems and was suffering so much.., he
> understood what hed to be done..!
> I gave him a full military burial in the backyard right where he used to
> lay and guard his territory! Now he is waiting quitly swishing his tail
> for that blessed day of renewal..!!
> That's been my standing general order for Stinky, Tonya, Teddy, Poncho,
> Tina, Emily, King Henry.., and myself.. for our team reunion to come!!
>
> May His peace be with you..., and toughen up.., get'n old ain't for
> sissies!!
>
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 06:02:19 GMT, "Jeff P." <[email protected]>
wrote:
. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
>and prayers.
>
>Thank you my friends,
I've read the thread, end-to end. Aside from one POS they all reflect
my thoughts. My wife had to put DiDi (Dumb Dog) down while I was off
on a business trip, 5000 miles away. I couldn't even hold her and say
good-bye, in the oldest meaning (God be with you).
But I have to believe that that brindle lab went to a land of endless
ducks, and a hunter that never misses (oh, those eyes when you miss).
The new dog awaits SWMBO's pleasure, and her transition over pain.
My thoughts, and at this moment tears, are with you. Hang tough,
'cause life is tough, but we do not have to like it at times.
Regards.
Tom
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote:
>I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
>our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
>A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
>increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
>by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
>is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
>There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
>arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
>We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of you
>may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
>is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
>I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
>and prayers.
>
>Thank you my friends,
If your vet will let you, be there for the end. Our vet made a house
call for our Golden, and rubbing her ears as she got the shot, and
seeing how peaceful the end was gave me great comfort. With our
current dog, I would do it sooner to spare him some of the pain that
our Golden experienced in her last week.
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of
you
> may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
> is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry
as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
thoughts
> and prayers.
It's a really tough thing to go through, losing a loved pet. In the past,
I've had to put down a German Shepherd and then a cat. The cat was almost 20
years ago and it's only just 10 days ago that I've adopted another cat
because it looks so much like the first one. And now I'm reminded of all the
times the previous pets made me laugh, because this one is doing the same
things.
You know it's the right thing to do and something you have to do. Even with
all the heartache, I know you know that you will be relieving your dog of a
great deal of pain an anguish by helping her move on. It's selfish to do
anything else. You'll see her again. My condolences are with you.
Dave
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
>our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family. A
>few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
>increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
>by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the
>diagnosis is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of
>the liver. There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had
>severe arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get
>around. We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening.
>Many of you may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person
>but to us she is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is
>heavy and I cry as I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my
>family in your thoughts and prayers.
>
You surely have both. Many of us have been there, and you have to
concentrate on loving them enough to have mercy.
--
Nahmie
The greatest headaches are those we cause ourselves.
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:59:34 GMT, "John Emmons"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Or maybe you're just not as grown
>up as you'd like to think.
If you were grown up none of you would post this maudlin slop here.
We all have our bag of hammers. It's called life. This is a forum
for wood working, not self-pity. I lost my dog to cancer. I also go
in for another cancer check tomorrow, having been dealing with it for
a few years now. I won't be posting the results here either way.
Live with it.
Hi Jeff
I know how bad it is when you lose a friend like Mariah, and I
totally understand the depth of feeling. I lost my GR Chance just
over a year ago under remarkably similar circumstances.
After 10 1/2 healthy years he suddenly could no longer hold down any
food. The vet did what he could but surgery revealed cancer and the
Dr put him to sleep while I was with him. I cried as if I was eight
yrs old again ,when I lost my first dog . Your Mariah reminds me
of what a great friend Chance was as I am sure Mariah has been to
you. I still miss the damn dog, but have been blessed with 10 yrs of
wonderful memories . My thoughts go out to you and Mariah as you say
farewell .
Ken ...... through tears and with a smile... god damn dogs
people beware never give to a dog your heart to tear
- R Kipling
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 06:02:19 GMT, "Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote:
Many of you
>may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
>is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
>I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
>and prayers.
>
>Thank you my friends,
We had to have our dog put to sleep earlier this week, so we know what you're
going through. Losing a family member is never easy. Our thoughts and prayers
are with you.
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"bf" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I'm sure you guys don't want me posting here everytime one of
> my fish die.
>
Well, that would depend on what kind of relationship you had with your fish.
bf wrote:
> Robert L. Haar wrote:
>
>>BF - it sounds to me like you have never really experienced the joy of
>>sharing your life with a four footed companion. I hope that you have this
>>wonderful opportunity at some point.
>
>
> I've had several dogs in my life. When I was a kid, I cried when they
> died. Now that I'm a grown man, I realize that the loss of a pet is
> nowhere near the tragedy of the loss of human life. Pets are cool, but
> in the end, they are just pets. Just like tools are just tools --
> eventually they must be thrown away as well.
>
> I know most people will think I'm a cold harded SOB, but the OP made a
> big deal over losing a pet (asking for prayers, treating it as a grand
> tragedy). I'm sure you guys don't want me posting here everytime one of
> my fish die.
>
The term isn't "cold harded", it's "COLD HEARTED". Not only are you a
cold hearted "SOB", but you are an uneducated one, as well. Throwing
away a pet like a tool? I've sat in the vet's office while my 15 year
old dog was euthanized. That moment is seared into my memory, as well
as the rest of our family. You are INDEED, a cold hearted individual. I
find nothing wrong with the OP posting about his grief. He felt he had
a safe place to share his feelings, and then along comes a twit like you
to try to minimize his feelings. Since you lack any empathy, it will be
interesting to see how others in your life react during your time of
need. Rest assured, you WILL face disappoints and sadness. Maybe it
won't be over a pet, but SOMETHING will affect you. Do you want others
to do to you what you've done to the OP? Shame!
Dave
In article <[email protected]>,
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote:
> A trouble free life? No. My father was brain injured in a bike accident
> and to this day (23 years later) is unresponsive. My mother fought cancer
> for 17 years before succumbing to it. I was with her and held her hand as
> she died. My grandparents are all dead. I don't think this qualifies as a
> trouble free life. My dogs, however, have helped my family through all
> these times. They give us unconditional love and ask nothing in return. If
> you don't understand this relationship then please just don't reply. To the
> rest of you that have replied...thanks much.
I think life's losses hardens some people to the point of not feeling
truly loving and caring for others - or by others - much less for an
animal. For the rest of us, losses allow us to more deeply and
emotionally connect to others and such creatures as dogs and cats -
beyond mere ownership of an animal.
In our household, our animals have brought us much joy and humor; have
taught us about caring for those unable to care for themselves; have
forced us to make life and death decisions for family we love; have
taught us; even frustrated and angered us. The positives have always
outweighed the negatives.
The folks who have children will remember the times when their young son
or daughter would immediately run to greet them with arms outstretched,
a smile from ear to ear, and a full body, to-the-core hug. Sharing our
lives with dogs is much the same - a 4 year old who never outgrows the
spontaneous outpouring of affection and joy at seeing you.
Our back yard is the resting spot for 3 of our dear dogs -
unfortunately, a 4th will likely be joining the others before next
summer. My thoughts are with you and your family, Jeff - I know it's
hard.
--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
__________
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
- Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05
In article <[email protected]>,
"Jeff P." <[email protected]> wrote:
> As with other of life's tragedies we'll survive and come next summer
> probably get another Golden. One thing's for sure, however, that puppy will
> have some mighty big shoes to fill.
We've taken to passing down the collar from our first dog to die to the
ones which have followed. It's a regular 'ol, heavy leather collar but
has the well-worn look of years and years of dog play. It takes a while
for the new dog to grow into it, but after a short time it becomes part
of them and their story while still holding fond memories of those no
longer with us.
--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
__________
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
- Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05
Jeff P. wrote:
> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
> A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
> increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
> by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
> is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
> There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
> arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of you
> may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
> is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
> and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
My thoughts are with you. I have bee postponing the inevitable my self.
I had a vet appointment for tomorrow for my 16 1/2 year old
Newfoundland mix, but I cancelled it. It is sad to lose a friend who is
the only one in the world who believes me to be perfect in every way.
Glen
"Jeff P." wrote in message ...
> My heart is heavy and I cry as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
thoughts
> and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
We had to put our 14 year old GR down last year ... rest assured that you
are doing her a favor. Get a grip on yourself and, if the vet will allow it,
hold her head in your hands at the end. It is a very peaceful process and
you will be forever glad that you've paid her that homage.
--
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Last update: 9/17/05
Thanks Dave! I couldn't have said it better myself.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
*After they make styrofoam, what do they ship it in?
*Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?
*If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?
*If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to the pan?
*If vegetarians love animals so much, why do they eat all their food?
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 23 Sep 2005 07:12:34 -0700, bf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
>> things you have had to experience. I can understand when people write a
>> eulogy about when their Dad dies on this board, but a pet? You are
>> claiming to need prayers when there's so many people in the world worse
>> off than you are? How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
>> you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
>> one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
>
> Fuck off.
> <plonk>
>
I know what you're going through. Our Shepherd was diagnosed with
cancer about four years ago. We felt the earth crumbling underneath us.
Fortunately, I was able to afford some rather expensive treatments and
we managed to beat the odds. She lived for another 3 1/2 years. But
she still had sporatic problems caused by the radiation treatments.
And yet, even though we managed to hold onto her (with a nice high
quality of life) for several more years, her death - when it did come -
was again a terrible pain to bear.
Being a doggie lover myself, I feel for you and you have my most
heartfelt sympathy.
Jack
Jeff P. wrote:
> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so that
> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
> A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
> increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
> by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the diagnosis
> is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the liver.
> There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
> arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
> We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of you
> may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
> is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry as
> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your thoughts
> and prayers.
>
> Thank you my friends,
Thanks Dave. I knew I'd find kindred spirits in the Wreck. It's been a
couple of days now and already the hurt has dimminished somewhat (which even
makes me feel worse!). The sound of her last breath will bring tears to me
for the rest of my life. I feel sorry for people that don't understand this
bond.
--
Jeff P.
Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com
"Dave Mundt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings and Salutations...
>
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 06:02:19 GMT, "Jeff P." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>>remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so
>>that
>>our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
>>A few weeks back our Golden Retriever Mariah started to throw up with
>>increased frequency. She became more and more lethargic as the days went
>>by. We took her to the vet a few days ago and it appears that the
>>diagnosis
>>is not good. We're not 100% sure but it appears to be cancer of the
>>liver.
>>There is little we can do for her at this point. She's had severe
>>arthritis in her hind legs for over a year now and can barely get around.
>>We will most likely have to put her to sleep this very evening. Many of
>>you
>>may not understand that bond between a good dog and a person but to us she
>>is like another child. She is such a lover. My heart is heavy and I cry
>>as
>>I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
>>thoughts
>>and prayers.
>
> My sympathies for you and your family. Being a pet keeper is
> great - about 95% of the time. This is part of that 5% that REALLY
> sucks.
> The fact of the matter is that, hard as it is, the most loving
> thing you can do is have her put down. From her point of view, she
> will go to sleep in the arms of her beloved owner, and the pain and
> discomfort will be over. From your point, hard as it is (and, having
> had to do this several times myself - I find myself tearing up a bit
> as I write this), you have given her many years of happy, fulfilled
> life, and have had you and your family's life enriched by her
> presence. The best gift you can give her now is that peaceful
> release.
> with deepest sympathies...
> Dave Mundt
>
"bf" wrote
>
> Jeff P. wrote:
>> I haven't posted on the wreck in quite some time so many of you may not
>> remember me. It's in times of pain, however, that we like to share so
>> that
>> our grief might be less. This is one of those days for me and my family.
>>
>> My heart is heavy and I cry as
>> I type this. It hurts so much. Just keep me and my family in your
>> thoughts
>> and prayers.
>
>
> Jeff, I think you've had a pretty good life if this is one of the worst
> things you have had to experience. I can understand when people write a
> eulogy about when their Dad dies on this board, but a pet? You are
> claiming to need prayers when there's so many people in the world worse
> off than you are? How about buying a new dog and thanking God that
> you've had such a wonderful, trouble free life. This is has got to be
> one of the most melodramic posts I've ever read.
>
Melodramatic??
I can not imagine a more insensitve response.
It makes me wonder what kind of person you are and how you respond to other
people's pain and difficulties. Tjhe loss of any loved one is a major event
and very stressful.
I have had to do the same thing with both family dogs and cats. It ain't
easy. But it is necessary. It ultimately is an act of love and caring. It is
the least you can do when they have loved you so well over the years. I
occasionally still call my present animals by the names of their beloved
brothers and sisters from the past. This indicates to me that they are not
forgotten. But loved, remembered and cherished.
Be well Jeff. Tough this one out. I feel for ya.
And when the time is right, welcome another canine friend into the family.
It will be a move appreciated by all.