On 12/24/2016 4:38 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> When you're driving large spikes
> into the ground, it's not about how *hard* you can hit the spike, it's
> about hitting the spike hard and listening to feedback.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Most don't appreciate the sound component in the art of driving a nail.
A good example is the art of apply a horseshoe that will stay on.
Although a horseshoe nail is designed to curve in one direction, the
amount of that curve (resulting in where the nail comes out of the hoof
above the horseshoe, which most often determines how long the shoe will
stay on, as well as the appearance of a well shod horse) is mostly
dependent upon the force of the blow, with said force being adjusted by
the feedback from both sound and feel (both due/caused by the relative
density of that part of the hoof where the nail is being driven, which
changes that feedback)
The art of driving nails into an appendage of a live animal, without
harm to the animal or you, gives one a unique perspective on using a
hammer to drive a nail.
(hey, more on topic than OS/2 ...)
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On 12/23/2016 09:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/23/2016 8:42 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> Someone loves their Dad:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/INdt7?lr=0
>>
>
> I wish you guys would not post anything from imgur. I always end up spending the next half hour clicking on "next post"
STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER....
:)
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:14:19 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>On 24 Dec 2016 14:54:46 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 2016-12-24, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't load at all for me.
>>
>>No big loss. Potentially crappy hammer, questionable restoration.
>>
>>Bottom line: I'm happy the OP is happy.
>>
>>It's not a hammer I would buy. Prolly cuz of all you passionate
>>WW types that have lulled me into buying outrageously overpriced tools
>>...and me not being a genuine WW fiend. I mainly read this newsgroup
>>cuz it has a buncha weirdos that would rather talk woodworking than
>>any other subject (read politics). ;)
>>
>>Well, that and the fact my late brother was a master carpenter and I
>>spent a relatively short time as his apprentice. But, I will admit,
>>I never got into finish work. :(
>>
>>OTOH, I hadda genuine Boy Scout scabbard knife with stacked
>>leather-ring handle, so I kinda see that attraction. ;)
>>
>>nb
> An Estwing hammer is as good as it gets - particularly from the
>sixties or earlier. Too bad he didn't get the profile of the leather
>handle correct. It looks pretty "clunky" and not at all like the
>original very comfortable grip.
I've used Estwing hammers. AFAIC, they're way over-hyped. I an feel
the shock getting telegraphed right to my elbow. I prefer fiberglass
over steel.
krw <[email protected]> wrote in news:3rit5c54bho3njljv3mtl125pcb75u4aaj@
4ax.com:
>
> I've used Estwing hammers. AFAIC, they're way over-hyped. I an feel
> the shock getting telegraphed right to my elbow. I prefer fiberglass
> over steel.
Probably another case of whoring out their name. I've got a Estwing 22 oz
Framing Hammer and it does a pretty good job. I only use it for driving in
12" landscape spikes for the ice rink, so I've got only a rubber mallet to
compare it to, but it does a fine job. When you're driving large spikes
into the ground, it's not about how *hard* you can hit the spike, it's
about hitting the spike hard and listening to feedback. It's pointless to
try to drive a spike into a rock.
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On 24 Dec 2016 14:54:46 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 2016-12-24, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Doesn't load at all for me.
>
>No big loss. Potentially crappy hammer, questionable restoration.
>
>Bottom line: I'm happy the OP is happy.
>
>It's not a hammer I would buy. Prolly cuz of all you passionate
>WW types that have lulled me into buying outrageously overpriced tools
>...and me not being a genuine WW fiend. I mainly read this newsgroup
>cuz it has a buncha weirdos that would rather talk woodworking than
>any other subject (read politics). ;)
>
>Well, that and the fact my late brother was a master carpenter and I
>spent a relatively short time as his apprentice. But, I will admit,
>I never got into finish work. :(
>
>OTOH, I hadda genuine Boy Scout scabbard knife with stacked
>leather-ring handle, so I kinda see that attraction. ;)
>
>nb
An Estwing hammer is as good as it gets - particularly from the
sixties or earlier. Too bad he didn't get the profile of the leather
handle correct. It looks pretty "clunky" and not at all like the
original very comfortable grip.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:50:42 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:25:56 -0500, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:14:19 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On 24 Dec 2016 14:54:46 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2016-12-24, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't load at all for me.
>>>>
>>>>No big loss. Potentially crappy hammer, questionable restoration.
>>>>
>>>>Bottom line: I'm happy the OP is happy.
>>>>
>>>>It's not a hammer I would buy. Prolly cuz of all you passionate
>>>>WW types that have lulled me into buying outrageously overpriced tools
>>>>...and me not being a genuine WW fiend. I mainly read this newsgroup
>>>>cuz it has a buncha weirdos that would rather talk woodworking than
>>>>any other subject (read politics). ;)
>>>>
>>>>Well, that and the fact my late brother was a master carpenter and I
>>>>spent a relatively short time as his apprentice. But, I will admit,
>>>>I never got into finish work. :(
>>>>
>>>>OTOH, I hadda genuine Boy Scout scabbard knife with stacked
>>>>leather-ring handle, so I kinda see that attraction. ;)
>>>>
>>>>nb
>>> An Estwing hammer is as good as it gets - particularly from the
>>>sixties or earlier. Too bad he didn't get the profile of the leather
>>>handle correct. It looks pretty "clunky" and not at all like the
>>>original very comfortable grip.
>>
>>I've used Estwing hammers. AFAIC, they're way over-hyped. I an feel
>>the shock getting telegraphed right to my elbow. I prefer fiberglass
>>over steel.
> Like I said " is as good as it gets - particularly from the sixties
>or earlier." The design of the Estwing hammer shank was actually
>pretty advanced when it came out back in about 1923 - Their balance
>has always been excellent - their ergonomics are hard to beat, and
>they last, and last, and last.
>Perhaps also important to American craftsmen is the fact they are made
>exclusively by american craftsmen.
>
>If you aren't a sucker for the good looks of the traditional leather
>handle, their later "shock absorbing system" using a molded on nylon
>vinyl grip gives you a more comfortable hammer for those who use
>their hammers a lot - they claim a 70% reduction in shock.
>
>One thing,for sure, it's pretty hard to break or damage the steel
>shank - unlike wood and fiberglass.
Of course I'm not a carpenter but my fiberglass Craftsman hammer is 45
years old and I wouldn't trade it for a bushel of Estwings.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:25:56 -0500, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:14:19 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 24 Dec 2016 14:54:46 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2016-12-24, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doesn't load at all for me.
>>>
>>>No big loss. Potentially crappy hammer, questionable restoration.
>>>
>>>Bottom line: I'm happy the OP is happy.
>>>
>>>It's not a hammer I would buy. Prolly cuz of all you passionate
>>>WW types that have lulled me into buying outrageously overpriced tools
>>>...and me not being a genuine WW fiend. I mainly read this newsgroup
>>>cuz it has a buncha weirdos that would rather talk woodworking than
>>>any other subject (read politics). ;)
>>>
>>>Well, that and the fact my late brother was a master carpenter and I
>>>spent a relatively short time as his apprentice. But, I will admit,
>>>I never got into finish work. :(
>>>
>>>OTOH, I hadda genuine Boy Scout scabbard knife with stacked
>>>leather-ring handle, so I kinda see that attraction. ;)
>>>
>>>nb
>> An Estwing hammer is as good as it gets - particularly from the
>>sixties or earlier. Too bad he didn't get the profile of the leather
>>handle correct. It looks pretty "clunky" and not at all like the
>>original very comfortable grip.
>
>I've used Estwing hammers. AFAIC, they're way over-hyped. I an feel
>the shock getting telegraphed right to my elbow. I prefer fiberglass
>over steel.
Like I said " is as good as it gets - particularly from the sixties
or earlier." The design of the Estwing hammer shank was actually
pretty advanced when it came out back in about 1923 - Their balance
has always been excellent - their ergonomics are hard to beat, and
they last, and last, and last.
Perhaps also important to American craftsmen is the fact they are made
exclusively by american craftsmen.
If you aren't a sucker for the good looks of the traditional leather
handle, their later "shock absorbing system" using a molded on nylon
vinyl grip gives you a more comfortable hammer for those who use
their hammers a lot - they claim a 70% reduction in shock.
One thing,for sure, it's pretty hard to break or damage the steel
shank - unlike wood and fiberglass.
On 12/24/2016 08:54 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-12-24, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Doesn't load at all for me.
>
> No big loss. Potentially crappy hammer, questionable restoration.
>
> Bottom line: I'm happy the OP is happy.
Just to be clear - that was not my work. I just happened upon it ...
On 2016-12-24, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
> Doesn't load at all for me.
No big loss. Potentially crappy hammer, questionable restoration.
Bottom line: I'm happy the OP is happy.
It's not a hammer I would buy. Prolly cuz of all you passionate
WW types that have lulled me into buying outrageously overpriced tools
...and me not being a genuine WW fiend. I mainly read this newsgroup
cuz it has a buncha weirdos that would rather talk woodworking than
any other subject (read politics). ;)
Well, that and the fact my late brother was a master carpenter and I
spent a relatively short time as his apprentice. But, I will admit,
I never got into finish work. :(
OTOH, I hadda genuine Boy Scout scabbard knife with stacked
leather-ring handle, so I kinda see that attraction. ;)
nb
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 03:00:17 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"krw" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>I've used Estwing hammers. AFAIC, they're way over-hyped. I an feel
>>the shock getting telegraphed right to my elbow. I prefer fiberglass
>>over steel.
>
>I concur... I never cared for the feel of the Estwing hammers. I like the
>Plumb hammers with the fiberglass handles, particularly the 20 oz. Plumb
>claw hammer.
>
I have a fiberglass Plumb, I predate it by 3 years. It is my finish
hammer. So that is a 57 year old hammer still going.
Mark
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 22:13:09 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 12/23/2016 8:42 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> Someone loves their Dad:
>>
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/INdt7?lr=0
>>
>
>I wish you guys would not post anything from imgur. I always end up
>spending the next half hour clicking on "next post"
Doesn't load at all for me.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:07:28 -0500, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:50:42 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:25:56 -0500, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:14:19 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 24 Dec 2016 14:54:46 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2016-12-24, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't load at all for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>No big loss. Potentially crappy hammer, questionable restoration.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bottom line: I'm happy the OP is happy.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not a hammer I would buy. Prolly cuz of all you passionate
>>>>>WW types that have lulled me into buying outrageously overpriced tools
>>>>>...and me not being a genuine WW fiend. I mainly read this newsgroup
>>>>>cuz it has a buncha weirdos that would rather talk woodworking than
>>>>>any other subject (read politics). ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, that and the fact my late brother was a master carpenter and I
>>>>>spent a relatively short time as his apprentice. But, I will admit,
>>>>>I never got into finish work. :(
>>>>>
>>>>>OTOH, I hadda genuine Boy Scout scabbard knife with stacked
>>>>>leather-ring handle, so I kinda see that attraction. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>nb
>>>> An Estwing hammer is as good as it gets - particularly from the
>>>>sixties or earlier. Too bad he didn't get the profile of the leather
>>>>handle correct. It looks pretty "clunky" and not at all like the
>>>>original very comfortable grip.
>>>
>>>I've used Estwing hammers. AFAIC, they're way over-hyped. I an feel
>>>the shock getting telegraphed right to my elbow. I prefer fiberglass
>>>over steel.
>> Like I said " is as good as it gets - particularly from the sixties
>>or earlier." The design of the Estwing hammer shank was actually
>>pretty advanced when it came out back in about 1923 - Their balance
>>has always been excellent - their ergonomics are hard to beat, and
>>they last, and last, and last.
>>Perhaps also important to American craftsmen is the fact they are made
>>exclusively by american craftsmen.
>>
>>If you aren't a sucker for the good looks of the traditional leather
>>handle, their later "shock absorbing system" using a molded on nylon
>>vinyl grip gives you a more comfortable hammer for those who use
>>their hammers a lot - they claim a 70% reduction in shock.
>>
>>One thing,for sure, it's pretty hard to break or damage the steel
>>shank - unlike wood and fiberglass.
>
>Of course I'm not a carpenter but my fiberglass Craftsman hammer is 45
>years old and I wouldn't trade it for a bushel of Estwings.
Your choice. My Dad had estwings and loved them - and I grew up
loving them too. That said, I don't own one today. One of my brothers
got Dad's and I have not gone out and bought my own. I don't use that
kind of tool on a daily basis like Dad did
"krw" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>I've used Estwing hammers. AFAIC, they're way over-hyped. I an feel
>the shock getting telegraphed right to my elbow. I prefer fiberglass
>over steel.
I concur... I never cared for the feel of the Estwing hammers. I like the
Plumb hammers with the fiberglass handles, particularly the 20 oz. Plumb
claw hammer.