Lr

Larry

30/08/2008 6:15 PM

Mortising with a router

What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24 holes
that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've found several
commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my list, but not at the
top.

Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?

Thanks,
Larry


This topic has 20 replies

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

03/09/2008 6:19 PM

I think you said "simple" but feel free
to juke it up with extras.

I have thought of similar enhancements
but in the end, it works just "as is".

I have also built and use this one:

http://www.woodsmith.com/issues/147/videos/setting-up-and-using-the-router-jig/

It is VERY simple to use and setup but not as
simple as the first one I showed you.


Larry wrote:

>> http://www.shopnotes.com/issues/090/extras/plunge-router-mor
>> tising-jig/

> You're right, that's as simple as it gets. Seems like it would
> work well for what I'm trying to do though. It might be a
> little more stable if the guides were longer, maybe even a
> couple of sets for different material.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 4:08 PM

"Larry" wrote

> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?

Another couple of pennies worth: Scroll down to router mortising jigs and
check out the second one. It worked well for both mortises in legs and
aprons for loose tenon joinery.

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Jigs.htm

For just straight up mortises in face grain, it's hard to beat a good edge
guide on your router, with maybe a longer auxiliary fence attached.

Caveat: you must cut in the proper direction so the bit will hold the fence
to the stock.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 8/18/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)



p

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 1:05 PM

Not cheap: http://patwarner.com/mortiser.html
But not dependent on section of work to function.
Work holding, size of mortice and complete control of router accounted
for.
*************************************************************





On Aug 30, 11:15=A0am, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24 holes
> that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've found several
> commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
> could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my list, but not at t=
he
> top.
>
> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry

s

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 9:49 PM

On Aug 30, 6:38 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > mortices by hand can be a pain because the router gets tippy. On a
> > router table, it's easy - just set the fence, and use stop blocks to
> > control the length of the cut.. You will also have to chisel the
> > corners square, or use rounded tenons. (you could even cut the tenons
> > a little shorter, but it's not a good idea.)
>
> > handheld, you can set up a jig to support the router, and clamp stop
> > blocks to it. take light passes! 1/4 inch
>
> I always preferred a plunger with extra support over the table for
> router mortises, due to the "fun" of lowering the work onto a spinning bit.
>
> I've done lots both ways and never got comfy with the table.


it's not too bad if you take light passes... I have a Milwaukee 2 1/4
fixed base in the table.. I can actually raise the bit up into the
work while the router is on.... not fun to do for a lot of work though!

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 8:18 PM

Larry wrote:

> But I didn't ask for a lesson in how to use Google. What I did ask for is
> personal experience...

Ok, although you could save some money if you used Google.

I built a rig that not only mortises, but tenons, dovetails, and about
any other kind of joinery you might want. It took a couple of months of
part-time effort, but seems to work passably well. I have a few photos
at the link below. Drawings were posted to
news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking before I actually started
building - and may still be available in one of the archives.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 8:21 PM

Morris Dovey wrote:

> I have a few photos at the link below.

Sorry, I forgot the link. :-(

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/JBot/

FB

Frank Boettcher

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

31/08/2008 5:54 PM

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:15:14 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24 holes
>that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've found several
>commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
>could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my list, but not at the
>top.
>
>Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
>Thanks,
>Larry


I've made several. two flat hardwood boards form an L to place your
stock, then a third flat on top of the L to provide a pad to run your
router (gusset this one). stops for the upper and lower end of your
mortise, (can be adjustable) and an edge piece to run the router
against. Bump stop to locate your stock, and clamp the lower end of
the stock/jig to a table.

Maybe not so clear, but, think about it, should be intuitive.

I have a mortiser, find this to be quicker and more accurate, just
make sure you rotate your stock properly if the mortises are not
centered and your putting two mortises per leg.

Frank

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 6:39 PM

Larry wrote:
>
>
> That's where I was headed but I don't have a flat edge on my router to use
> as a guide. I'd need to build one of those too. I do have a piece of
> plexiglass sitting in the corner I could use for a base and just leave a
> square edge on it...

Plywood and hardboard are fine for bases, too. Just make the bit
clearance hole big enough to see your marks.

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 2:46 PM

Larry wrote:
>
>
> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?

When I Googled "router mortising jig", the top of the first page had at
least four iterations that work great. I've personally used the Shop
Notes and Tage Frid versions.

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 10:16 PM

"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Larry wrote:
>> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24
>> holes that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've
>> found several commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey.
>> For
>> a few buck more I could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is
>> on
>> my list, but not at the top.
>>
>> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
> If you had googled "router mortise jig" before posting this question
> you would have found plans for quite a lot of them, some with videos
> showing how to use them.
>
>

But I didn't ask for a lesson in how to use Google. What I did ask for is
personal experience...

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 10:17 PM

[email protected] wrote in
news:03a59548-6a63-4c23-b58c-d1a85caddc2e@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com:

> Not cheap: http://patwarner.com/mortiser.html
> But not dependent on section of work to function.
> Work holding, size of mortice and complete control of router accounted
> for.
> *************************************************************
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 11:15 am, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24
>> holes that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've
>> found several commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For
>> a few buck more I could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on
>> my list, but not at t
> he
>> top.
>>
>> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>

Yours is one of the jigs that I encountered that didn't fit into my
current budget. Nice, well thought out jig though...

Larry

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 10:27 PM

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Larry" wrote
>
>> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
> Another couple of pennies worth: Scroll down to router mortising jigs
> and check out the second one. It worked well for both mortises in legs
> and aprons for loose tenon joinery.
>
> http://www.e-woodshop.net/Jigs.htm
>
> For just straight up mortises in face grain, it's hard to beat a good
> edge guide on your router, with maybe a longer auxiliary fence
> attached.
>
> Caveat: you must cut in the proper direction so the bit will hold the
> fence to the stock.
>

That's where I was headed but I don't have a flat edge on my router to use
as a guide. I'd need to build one of those too. I do have a piece of
plexiglass sitting in the corner I could use for a base and just leave a
square edge on it...

Thanks

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

02/09/2008 9:10 PM

Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Dead Simple:
>
> http://www.shopnotes.com/issues/090/extras/plunge-router-mor
> tising-jig/
>
> Larry wrote:
>> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router?
>> I've got 24 holes that need to be cut on 2" legs for my
>> current project. I've found several commercial jigs for
>> sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
>> could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my
>> list, but not at the top.
>>
>> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and
>> work well?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>

You're right, that's as simple as it gets. Seems like it would
work well for what I'm trying to do though. It might be a
little more stable if the guides were longer, maybe even a
couple of sets for different material.

Thanks,
Larry

s

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 11:51 AM

On Aug 30, 2:15 pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24 holes
> that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've found several
> commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
> could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my list, but not at the
> top.
>
> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry

mortices by hand can be a pain because the router gets tippy. On a
router table, it's easy - just set the fence, and use stop blocks to
control the length of the cut.. You will also have to chisel the
corners square, or use rounded tenons. (you could even cut the tenons
a little shorter, but it's not a good idea.)

handheld, you can set up a jig to support the router, and clamp stop
blocks to it. take light passes! 1/4 inch

you might also want to look at this
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1288&filter=corner%20chisel

shelly

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 10:19 PM

On Aug 30, 2:15=A0pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24 holes
> that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've found several
> commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
> could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my list, but not at t=
he
> top.
>
> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry

For just a few? Plunger with an edge guide, some way
to clamp the board vertically to the edge of your work
bench. The router might snipe on your first few tries,
but if you're not cutting through mortises, you'll never
see them.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 2:36 PM

Larry wrote:
> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24
> holes that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've
> found several commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey.
> For
> a few buck more I could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is
> on
> my list, but not at the top.
>
> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?

If you had googled "router mortise jig" before posting this question
you would have found plans for quite a lot of them, some with videos
showing how to use them.


--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

30/08/2008 6:38 PM

[email protected] wrote:
>
> mortices by hand can be a pain because the router gets tippy. On a
> router table, it's easy - just set the fence, and use stop blocks to
> control the length of the cut.. You will also have to chisel the
> corners square, or use rounded tenons. (you could even cut the tenons
> a little shorter, but it's not a good idea.)
>
> handheld, you can set up a jig to support the router, and clamp stop
> blocks to it. take light passes! 1/4 inch

I always preferred a plunger with extra support over the table for
router mortises, due to the "fun" of lowering the work onto a spinning bit.

I've done lots both ways and never got comfy with the table.

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

31/08/2008 9:07 AM

[email protected] wrote:
>
> it's not too bad if you take light passes... I have a Milwaukee 2 1/4
> fixed base in the table.. I can actually raise the bit up into the
> work while the router is on.... not fun to do for a lot of work though!

Very true, that is much safer and I've done it that way.

However, that takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r compared to a plunger.

LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

31/08/2008 2:08 AM


"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24 holes
> that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've found several
> commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
> could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my list, but not at
> the
> top.
>
> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
If you put two legs together in a vise, you can use a router edge guide to
space your mortise on the second leg while letting your router and edge
guide ride on the near leg. After you put mortise in one leg, swap the legs
and mortise the second one. You will have to mark the ends of your mortise
with a pencil or striking knife. Kelly Mehler demonstrates this method. No
jigs are required.
I use the mortising fixture that Jeff Miller features in his book on making
chairs. It uses the same principle, but uses a fixture instead of a second
leg.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Larry on 30/08/2008 6:15 PM

02/09/2008 6:47 PM

Dead Simple:

http://www.shopnotes.com/issues/090/extras/plunge-router-mortising-jig/

Larry wrote:
> What's the simplest way to make mortises with a router? I've got 24 holes
> that need to be cut on 2" legs for my current project. I've found several
> commercial jigs for sale but they're pretty pricey. For a few buck more I
> could buy a dedicated mortising machine. It's is on my list, but not at the
> top.
>
> Any pointers to homemade jigs/plans that you've used and work well?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry


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