can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with table
saw and router table.
All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
often not available in Australia.
I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
Some type of home made model would be superb.
Thanking you and have a lovely day.
Arthur
aalchin wrote:
> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with table
> saw and router table.
two squares clamped together. the big one is set so that the zero mark
is against the table top. the little one is clamped with the blade
perpendicular to the first blade (parallel to the table top).
"aalchin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with
> table saw and router table.
>
> All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
> often not available in Australia.
>
> I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
> mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
>
> Some type of home made model would be superb.
>
> Thanking you and have a lovely day.
>
> Arthur
>
Maybe this ??
http://www.schsons.com/kits/ce_depth_gauge.html
aalchin wrote:
> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with table
> saw and router table.
>
> All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
> often not available in Australia.
>
> I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
> mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
>
> Some type of home made model would be superb.
>
> Thanking you and have a lovely day.
>
> Arthur
>
>
For about 80% of my set ups I use a combination square.
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Buffalo, NY - USA
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"aalchin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with
> table saw and router table.
>
> All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
> often not available in Australia.
>
> I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
> mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
>
> Some type of home made model would be superb.
>
> Thanking you and have a lovely day.
I would suppose machinists the world over use something similar. Sure is a
great way to check almost anything. Touch gages and a setup block. Love
'em. http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45089&cat=1,240,41064
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Blocks work a lot better than the
> setup gauges, IMO.
Wonder what the metric equivalent of the 1-2-3 block is?
Do they go 25-50-75 or 20-40-60? Any of the folks in metric places know?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> two squares clamped together. the big one is set so that the zero mark
> is against the table top. the little one is clamped with the blade
> perpendicular to the first blade (parallel to the table top).
Actually, you need three squares in that case. The third one is to ensure
the second one is perpendicular to the first one. :)
I made one similar to yours a couple of years ago for my dad, but i
finished it off flush with the top of the ruler so used upside down it
can measure the depth of grooves, the thickness of a piece of wood etc.
and it can then transfer the height very easily to the saw or router. it
had a small screw to lock the ruler in place as well and the gauge body
was made from aluminium with recessed magnets to hold the rule and plexi
front.
must get around to making another for myself now :)
"aalchin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with
table
> saw and router table.
I use one of these purchased quite a few years ago from Lee Valley Tools.
Admittedly, the price has gone up considerably over when I bought mine, but
it's a tremendously handy height gauge.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=30074&cat=1,240,41064
"aalchin" wrote in message
> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with
table
> saw and router table.
>
> All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
> often not available in Australia.
>
> I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
> mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
>
> Some type of home made model would be superb.
The following is posted so you can get an idea of one approach:
http://www.woodsmithstore.com/setupgaugekit.html
I made a similar one to the above, and based on the same principle, from a
magazine article a few years back. It looks like an upside down slingshot,
using some plywood, a piece of Plexiglas from a cheap picture frame, a six
inch ruler, and an earth magnet ... for a total cost of less than ten bucks.
http://e-woodshop.net/images/setupjig1.jpg
http://e-woodshop.net/images/setupjig2.jpg
It is as accurate as the ruler that you use. You can barely see the red
"zero line" inscribed on the Plexiglas at the top of the ruler.
Cheap, and handy for setting up saw blades and router bits.
--
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Last update: 8/07/05
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:29:23 +1000, the opaque "aalchin"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with table
>saw and router table.
>
>All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
>often not available in Australia.
>
>I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
>mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
>
>Some type of home made model would be superb.
>
>Thanking you and have a lovely day.
Here ya go:
Mount one of these on a sliding holder so the caliper body can move up
and down to rest on the blade. Slide the jaw down so it touches the
zero clearance plate and you have your height.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=92953
$4.99 or $15.99
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=5647
Or get one of these nice little jobbers:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=30074&cat=1,240,41064
Man, they've gone up in price!
Here's one from Griz that's priced right:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.cfm?itemnumber=g2858
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aalchin (in [email protected])
said:
| can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used
| with table saw and router table.
|
| All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and
| quite often not available in Australia.
|
| I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but
| it was mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
|
| Some type of home made model would be superb.
It's not home-made, but here's a photo of mine being used to set up my
router table fence (with a 1-2-3 block) at
http://download.usenet-replayer.com/7/7/2/2/1121412277.64.jpg
This particular gauge is a cheapie (~$30) labeled "hardened stainless"
and looks like a sibling to the digital calipers sold by Lee Valley -
but I don't know who makes it.
I bought it from one of KBC, Enco, or Grizzly (but can't remember
which.) It's accurate and easy-to-use.
--
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DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:31:23 -0400, Upscale wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> two squares clamped together. the big one is set so that the zero mark
>> is against the table top. the little one is clamped with the blade
>> perpendicular to the first blade (parallel to the table top).
>
> Actually, you need three squares in that case. The third one is to ensure
> the second one is perpendicular to the first one. :)
Perpendicularity is irrelevant and the third square is at least one too
many.
Use a straight edge (the table top is likely a suitable straight edge) to
assure that one edge of the blades are in the same plane. IF the squares
are true, then perpendicularity is guaranteed. Two lines, each
perpendicular to a third line, are parallel to each other.
Alternatively, nest the beam of one against the blade of the other. Same
result, more simply derived. In this case, the third line is supplied by
the blade of the first square at the point where it meets the beam of the
second one.
However, even if they aren't perpendicular, all is not lost. Just be sure
to take your measurement of height at the same point the cutting tool made
contact at and not at the scale. (Should ignore the scale anyways.)
I'd skip the Veritas gage unless you are only going to make their preset
cuts. If you have to set up the other cuts, why bother?
He could simply make a planer gage. Two wedges, one has a leg parallel to
the base of the other. Done. Touch the offset leg to the cutting tool and
measure against any flat surface (such as the tool table).
Look in a metal tooling catalog and copy in hardwood.
Are we having fun yet?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:00:46 -0400, "George" <George@least> wrote:
>
>"aalchin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with
>> table saw and router table.
>>
>> All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
>> often not available in Australia.
>>
>> I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
>> mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
>>
>> Some type of home made model would be superb.
>>
>> Thanking you and have a lovely day.
>
>I would suppose machinists the world over use something similar. Sure is a
>great way to check almost anything. Touch gages and a setup block. Love
>'em. http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45089&cat=1,240,41064
That'd be my vote, too. If you're trying to do it very cheaply, you
can use the shanks of drill bits for short heights, and cut a bunch of
maple (or whatever hardwood you happen to have) blocks to the right
sizes for larger measurements. Blocks work a lot better than the
setup gauges, IMO.
"aalchin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> can anybody give me info on an inexpensive depth gauge to be used with
table
> saw and router table.
>
> All the commercially available units appear to be so expensive and quite
> often not available in Australia.
>
> I did have one unit that looked like a single upright gallows but it was
> mm's off in accuracy (it was made somewhere in Asia).
>
> Some type of home made model would be superb.
>
> Thanking you and have a lovely day.
>
> Arthur
Might be too simplistic for your needs but the typical Stanley Folding Wood
Rule has a depth gauge in the first segment. I figure if it's accurate
enough for taking measurements, it's accurate enough for a depth gauge.
IIRC, Sears sells one too.
hth,
Vic
A planer gage is what I use. Do mostly CNC work these days so the planer
gage is a lot handier at home than at work.
"Obfuscated" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:31:23 -0400, Upscale wrote:
> He could simply make a planer gage. Two wedges, one has a leg parallel to
> the base of the other. Done. Touch the offset leg to the cutting tool and
> measure against any flat surface (such as the tool table).
>
> Look in a metal tooling catalog and copy in hardwood.
>
> Are we having fun yet?