I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the wall
between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would be
something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any companies
that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs that would be
exclusively used for a fire box?
Thanks
Bob
Bob, you should also check to make sure you have enough cooling space for
the computer to keep it from overheating in a confined space.
Jerry
"BeeFarmer" <OhioBeeFarmer@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the
>wall between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would
>be something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any
>companies that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs
>that would be exclusively used for a fire box?
>
> Thanks
> Bob
>
BeeFarmer wrote:
> I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
> wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the wall
> between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would be
> something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any companies
> that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs that would be
> exclusively used for a fire box?
>
> Thanks
> Bob
>
>
Talk to the fire marshal. He has the final say on whatever you do
anyway, and by asking his opinion you might get some brownie points
(always a good thing with inspectors).
You might be able to just line the opening with 5/8" drywall and that
will be good enough. Think of it as just changing the plane of the
wall "a little" - but keeping continuous drywall thickness through-out.
Good luck!
Thanks Bill, interesting you're from PA. That's the state we are working
looking at putting in a device!
"Bill Waller" <wsw1856@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:30:54 -0500, "BeeFarmer" <OhioBeeFarmer@Hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>>wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the
>>wall
>>between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would be
>>something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any companies
>>that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs that would
>>be
>>exclusively used for a fire box?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Bob
>>
> Check with your local electrical supply house. They should be able to
> provide a
> NEMA 12 box that would fit between the studs. What you are looking for is
> similar to the shell for a circuit breaker panel, but without any holes.
>
> Ask the inspector if that would satisfy his code.
> Bill Waller
> New Eagle, PA
>
> wsw1856@comcast.net
Yes, that is true. These units are KIOSK type units with touch screen and
having some space around them is important.
Thanks
Bob
"your1joker" <your1joker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bob, you should also check to make sure you have enough cooling space for
> the computer to keep it from overheating in a confined space.
>
> Jerry
> "BeeFarmer" <OhioBeeFarmer@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:38pe0hF5q8m0qU1@individual.net...
>>I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>>wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the
>>wall between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would
>>be something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any
>>companies that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs
>>that would be exclusively used for a fire box?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>>
>
>
Roger that! Thanks
Bob
"Dustmaker" <pklein@interaccess.com> wrote in message
news:fvSdncvwtt1wcLrfRVn-pw@rcn.net...
> Home Depot sells some products for in house wiring. One is a wiring
> cabinet that can be surface or flush mounted. Check over in the area
> where they have the low voltage (phone, TV and A/V) wiring accessories.
>
> BTW I installed the wiring system in my house for phones 4 lines 8 phones,
> internet and TV. It helps make a really neat installation.
>
> Dustmaker
> "BeeFarmer" <OhioBeeFarmer@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:38pe0hF5q8m0qU1@individual.net...
>>I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>>wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the
>>wall between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would
>>be something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any
>>companies that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs
>>that would be exclusively used for a fire box?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>>
>
>
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:30:54 -0700, BeeFarmer wrote
(in article <38pe0hF5q8m0qU1@individual.net>):
> I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
> wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the wall
> between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would be
> something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any companies
> that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs that would be
> exclusively used for a fire box?
>
> Thanks
> Bob
I'd think that a medicine box should already meet the specifications (check
for sure!) Usually they are sized to nest between two interior studs (14.5"
wide)
>
>
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:44:12 -0700, bridger@all.costs wrote
(in article <urjh21thab172259r4g6ea2ab04d6bijr0@4ax.com>):
>
>
> I've never seen a fire rated medicine cabinet....
I'm sure the fire code is addressing a breeched fire barrier (the drywall). I
figured that since medicine cabinets do that anyway they'd be also rated. Of
course commercial vs. residential is a whole different ball of wax...
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:30:54 -0500, "BeeFarmer" <OhioBeeFarmer@Hotmail.com>
wrote:
>I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the wall
>between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would be
>something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any companies
>that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs that would be
>exclusively used for a fire box?
>
>Thanks
>Bob
>
Check with your local electrical supply house. They should be able to provide a
NEMA 12 box that would fit between the studs. What you are looking for is
similar to the shell for a circuit breaker panel, but without any holes.
Ask the inspector if that would satisfy his code.
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA
wsw1856@comcast.net
on 3/4/2005 3:44 PM bridger@all.costs said the following:
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:17:16 -0700, Bruce <br@spambegon.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:30:54 -0700, BeeFarmer wrote
>>(in article <38pe0hF5q8m0qU1@individual.net>):
>>
>>
>>>I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>>>wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the wall
>>>between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would be
>>>something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any companies
>>>that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs that would be
>>>exclusively used for a fire box?
Could he have meant a fire STOP? You know, 2x4 or 2x6, placed
horizontally between the studs to prevent a chimney effect?
I side with the poster who suggested calling the fire marshall and
asking him point blank. Back on the few occasions when I was involved
in writing/applying for grants, that was a favored technique. Ask the
individuals who would wind up approving the grant exactly what they were
looking for and giving it to them. When they see exactly what they are
looking for in your application, they tend to approve them<g>
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 19:10:07 -0700, Bruce <br@spambegon.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 14:44:12 -0700, bridger@all.costs wrote
>(in article <urjh21thab172259r4g6ea2ab04d6bijr0@4ax.com>):
>
>>
>>
>> I've never seen a fire rated medicine cabinet....
>
>I'm sure the fire code is addressing a breeched fire barrier (the drywall). I
>figured that since medicine cabinets do that anyway they'd be also rated. Of
>course commercial vs. residential is a whole different ball of wax...
except that medicine cabinets don't generally have electrical
components inside of them. lights on the outside, yes.
Home Depot sells some products for in house wiring. One is a wiring cabinet
that can be surface or flush mounted. Check over in the area where they
have the low voltage (phone, TV and A/V) wiring accessories.
BTW I installed the wiring system in my house for phones 4 lines 8 phones,
internet and TV. It helps make a really neat installation.
Dustmaker
"BeeFarmer" <OhioBeeFarmer@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:38pe0hF5q8m0qU1@individual.net...
>I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the
>wall between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would
>be something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any
>companies that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs
>that would be exclusively used for a fire box?
>
> Thanks
> Bob
>
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:17:16 -0700, Bruce <br@spambegon.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:30:54 -0700, BeeFarmer wrote
>(in article <38pe0hF5q8m0qU1@individual.net>):
>
>> I am in need of some info. I am trying to place a flat computer into a
>> wall at a business. The fire marshal mentioned that if I cut into the wall
>> between the studs that I should use a fire box. I guess this would be
>> something like a medicine cabinet. I question is, are there any companies
>> that provide a metal cabinet that would fit between two studs that would be
>> exclusively used for a fire box?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>
>I'd think that a medicine box should already meet the specifications (check
>for sure!) Usually they are sized to nest between two interior studs (14.5"
>wide)
>
I've never seen a fire rated medicine cabinet....