On Jun 24, 7:44=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> RE: Subject
>
> Trim learher proud with an Xacto knife.
>
> Attach leather with Barge cement.
>
> File leather flush with a 10" flat bastard file.
>
> Grab a beer and adnire your handy work.
>
> Have fun.
>
> Lew
I glued mine with yellow glue, cut close with a knife, cleaned up with
a flush trim bit and then put an eigth-inch roundover on it. No
problems at all, other than the leather isn't real tacky so stuff
tends to want to slide a bit. I wonder if epdm would be a better way
to go?
JP
tiredofspam wrote:
> I'm not attaching the leather to metal,
> I'm attaching to a wood face.
>
> Because the old timers trimmed the leather by just hitting the
> leather. It was a very efficient way of trimming. I just don't
> remember whether I heard what type of mallet they used.
I've cut gasket material by tapping around it with a ballpeen hammer (steel)
but what's going to cut the leather? The gasket gets cut by the edge of
whatever is receiving the gasket but I don't think your wood face will do
much to cut the leather regardless of whether the hammer is wood or steel.
Make your life easy...rim it with a knife.
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:48:32 -0700, "Artemus" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> What type of glue would you use to put a leather face on a vice?
>> I was thinking 3M super 77, but want opinions.
>
>Just about any contact cement should work. I've used Pliobond and
>Weldwood with success.
I'd glue leather to wood vise inserts with super77, contact cement, or
good old Titebond.
>> Also when cutting the leather to shape, the old timers used a mallet and
>> just hit the edges. Was it a rubber or wooden mallet?
>
>I've never heard of this before. Could also have been a rawhide mallet.
Wood mallet. You don't want to break down the lower surface but you
want as solid and flat a hit as possible.
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 03:59:13 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
>That little plane is _SO_ cute, but for trimming leather, you just GOT
>to have one of these!
>
>http://www.supertool.com/stanleybg/stan2.htm#num11
I couldn't resist these http://goo.gl/OLtFv
but these are even cuter, wot? http://goo.gl/cVftl
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On Jun 22, 10:32=A0pm, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not attaching the leather to metal,
> I'm attaching to a wood face.
Ah. You didn't mention that. In that case use Barge cement. ;)
> Because the old timers trimmed the leather by just hitting the leather.
> It was a very efficient way of trimming. I just don't remember whether I
> heard what type of mallet they used.
I've worked leather for a while now, and I've never heard of trimming
leather by pounding it. Frankly, I don't see how that's possible if
you're mounting it to wood. You'd beat the living shit out of the
leather and it still wouldn't cut it cleanly. If you were pounding it
against a sharp metal edge, maybe, but why not just use a knife? Even
if the efficiency somehow was less than this other method you read
about, a knife couldn't take more than a few minutes to trim the
leather on the vice faces.
R
On Jun 22, 6:19=A0pm, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>
> What type of glue would you use to put a leather face on a vice?
> I was thinking 3M super 77, but want opinions.
I use Barge Cement. It's pretty much the leatherworker's go-to
contact cement, but any contact cement or caulk would do. Mainly it's
getting the metal totally clean.
> Also when cutting the leather to shape, the old timers used a mallet and
> just hit the edges. Was it a rubber or wooden mallet?
Hit the edges? Why? Do you mean to insure contact? Just glue up the
leather oversize, clamp the vise shut, and then trim the leather to
size following the vise jaw contours.
R
"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What type of glue would you use to put a leather face on a vice?
> I was thinking 3M super 77, but want opinions.
Just about any contact cement should work. I've used Pliobond and
Weldwood with success.
> Also when cutting the leather to shape, the old timers used a mallet and
> just hit the edges. Was it a rubber or wooden mallet?
I've never heard of this before. Could also have been a rawhide mallet.
Art
In article <[email protected]>,
Seismo R. Malm <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 2011-06-24, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not attaching the leather to metal,
>>> I'm attaching to a wood face.
>>
>> Ah. You didn't mention that. In that case use Barge cement. ;)
>>
>>> Because the old timers trimmed the leather by just hitting the leather.
>>> It was a very efficient way of trimming. I just don't remember whether I
>>> heard what type of mallet they used.
>>
>> I've worked leather for a while now, and I've never heard of trimming
>> leather by pounding it. Frankly, I don't see how that's possible if
>> you're mounting it to wood. You'd beat the living shit out of the
>> leather and it still wouldn't cut it cleanly. If you were pounding it
>> against a sharp metal edge, maybe, but why not just use a knife? Even
>> if the efficiency somehow was less than this other method you read
>> about, a knife couldn't take more than a few minutes to trim the
>> leather on the vice faces.
>>
>> R
>
>This comes propably from metalworking folks. They don't have so often a good
>knife with them as woodworkers. Leather can be cut by pounding with a heavy
>wooden mallet if there is a sharp edge under it. Sometimes things like
>bookmarks are made thus.
>
>Much easier to use a knife or a plane. I use this to even leather ends.
>http://www.biltema.fi/osteri/data/webpics_all/Web%20images%20Sorted/16/huge/16-444_h.jpg
>
>seismo malm
That little plane is _SO_ cute, but for trimming leather, you just GOT
to have one of these!
http://www.supertool.com/stanleybg/stan2.htm#num11
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I'm not attaching the leather to metal,
I'm attaching to a wood face.
Because the old timers trimmed the leather by just hitting the leather.
It was a very efficient way of trimming. I just don't remember whether I
heard what type of mallet they used.
On 6/22/2011 8:40 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> On Jun 22, 6:19 pm, tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> What type of glue would you use to put a leather face on a vice?
>> I was thinking 3M super 77, but want opinions.
>
> I use Barge Cement. It's pretty much the leatherworker's go-to
> contact cement, but any contact cement or caulk would do. Mainly it's
> getting the metal totally clean.
>
>> Also when cutting the leather to shape, the old timers used a mallet and
>> just hit the edges. Was it a rubber or wooden mallet?
>
> Hit the edges? Why? Do you mean to insure contact? Just glue up the
> leather oversize, clamp the vise shut, and then trim the leather to
> size following the vise jaw contours.
>
> R
On 2011-06-24, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not attaching the leather to metal,
>> I'm attaching to a wood face.
>
> Ah. You didn't mention that. In that case use Barge cement. ;)
>
>> Because the old timers trimmed the leather by just hitting the leather.
>> It was a very efficient way of trimming. I just don't remember whether I
>> heard what type of mallet they used.
>
> I've worked leather for a while now, and I've never heard of trimming
> leather by pounding it. Frankly, I don't see how that's possible if
> you're mounting it to wood. You'd beat the living shit out of the
> leather and it still wouldn't cut it cleanly. If you were pounding it
> against a sharp metal edge, maybe, but why not just use a knife? Even
> if the efficiency somehow was less than this other method you read
> about, a knife couldn't take more than a few minutes to trim the
> leather on the vice faces.
>
> R
This comes propably from metalworking folks. They don't have so often a good
knife with them as woodworkers. Leather can be cut by pounding with a heavy
wooden mallet if there is a sharp edge under it. Sometimes things like
bookmarks are made thus.
Much easier to use a knife or a plane. I use this to even leather ends.
http://www.biltema.fi/osteri/data/webpics_all/Web%20images%20Sorted/16/huge/16-444_h.jpg
seismo malm
On 2011-06-25, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 7:44 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> RE: Subject
>>
>> Trim learher proud with an Xacto knife.
>>
>> Attach leather with Barge cement.
>>
>> File leather flush with a 10" flat bastard file.
>>
>> Grab a beer and adnire your handy work.
>>
>> Have fun.
>>
>> Lew
>
> I glued mine with yellow glue, cut close with a knife, cleaned up with
> a flush trim bit and then put an eigth-inch roundover on it. No
> problems at all, other than the leather isn't real tacky so stuff
> tends to want to slide a bit. I wonder if epdm would be a better way
> to go?
> JP
Leather is very often treated with oils&waxes (etc. this trade has got very much
variance). So it might help if you vipe the surfaces with acetone or
isopropyl alcohol.
seismo malm
On 2011-06-25, Larry W <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Seismo R. Malm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On 2011-06-24, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not attaching the leather to metal,
>>>> I'm attaching to a wood face.
>>>
>>> Ah. You didn't mention that. In that case use Barge cement. ;)
>>>
>>>> Because the old timers trimmed the leather by just hitting the leather.
>>>> It was a very efficient way of trimming. I just don't remember whether I
>>>> heard what type of mallet they used.
>>>
>>> I've worked leather for a while now, and I've never heard of trimming
>>> leather by pounding it. Frankly, I don't see how that's possible if
>>> you're mounting it to wood. You'd beat the living shit out of the
>>> leather and it still wouldn't cut it cleanly. If you were pounding it
>>> against a sharp metal edge, maybe, but why not just use a knife? Even
>>> if the efficiency somehow was less than this other method you read
>>> about, a knife couldn't take more than a few minutes to trim the
>>> leather on the vice faces.
>>>
>>> R
>>
>>This comes propably from metalworking folks. They don't have so often a good
>>knife with them as woodworkers. Leather can be cut by pounding with a heavy
>>wooden mallet if there is a sharp edge under it. Sometimes things like
>>bookmarks are made thus.
>>
>>Much easier to use a knife or a plane. I use this to even leather ends.
>>http://www.biltema.fi/osteri/data/webpics_all/Web%20images%20Sorted/16/huge/16-444_h.jpg
>>
>>seismo malm
>
> That little plane is _SO_ cute, but for trimming leather, you just GOT
> to have one of these!
>
> http://www.supertool.com/stanleybg/stan2.htm#num11
>
This is propably collectors item. Spokeshaves work pretty well with leather
and so does almost all little planes. For example Mujingfang makes suitable
ones, too bad nobody is selling them on Ebay (Dictum in Germany is selling
them but it would propably be cheaper to get them from Hong Kong directly).
http://www.mehr-als-werkzeug.de/product/702946/Block-Plane/detail.jsf
seismo malm