Lr

Larry

04/03/2012 1:53 AM

Dust collection

Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
workshop in a garage.

My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
can't get the hose on, or it falls off.

There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.

Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?

Larry


This topic has 30 replies

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 3:18 AM

Larry <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
> a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
> problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
> workshop in a garage.
>
> My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
> of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
> pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
> allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
> can't get the hose on, or it falls off.
>
> There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
> neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
> Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.
>
> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?
>
> Larry
>

I haven't tried this, but maybe you could take a piece of 4" PVC pipe (or
equivalent) and permanently attach that to the DC ports on your tools.
Then, as you move the hose from one tool to another, you'll have a
consistantly sized port for the hose. If the hose fits tightly, you
could also attach the hose to a PVC coupler and use that instead. It
will fit snugly, but a simple twist and pull usually removes it.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

03/03/2012 8:18 PM

On 04 Mar 2012 03:38:14 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Stephen Quinn" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Larry
>>
>>> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?
>>
>> Adapters/Blast gates available at Rockler.
>>
>> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30200
>
>
>The link above is what I'm looking for, however, I stood in
>front of the isle containing these adapters for 30 minutes and
>it seemed there were no 2 adapters that fit together.
>
>After I posted the original message I stumbled onto the
>following. Anyone have any experience with this?
>
>http://woodworker.com/sitenews/fazlok.html

Do those come with clamps? Did you see the notice about electrical
grounding? <bseg>

I finally got more blast gates and put hoses to each machine, with a
separate movable hose for the floor drop and mortise machine top suck.

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

03/03/2012 8:15 PM

On 04 Mar 2012 01:53:25 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
>a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
>problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
>workshop in a garage.
>
>My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
>of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
>pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
>allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
>can't get the hose on, or it falls off.
>
>There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
>neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
>Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.
>
>Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?

Try these quick disconnect spring clamps for the hose.
http://tinyurl.com/7p7wcuh They're _just_ tight enough.

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson

Du

Dave

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 9:36 AM

On 04 Mar 2012 01:53:25 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
>allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
>can't get the hose on, or it falls off.

Any chance a strip of hook and loop Velcro can do the job? 2" Velcro
can hold with a relatively great deal of tightness.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

03/03/2012 11:12 PM


"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>
>> I haven't tried this, but maybe you could take a piece of
>> 4" PVC pipe (or equivalent) and permanently attach that to
>> the DC ports on your tools. Then, as you move the hose
>> from one tool to another, you'll have a consistantly sized
>> port for the hose. If the hose fits tightly, you could
>> also attach the hose to a PVC coupler and use that instead.
>> It will fit snugly, but a simple twist and pull usually
>> removes it.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> That's kinda what I want but not interested in building it and
> would rather buy something that works. When you consider the
> cost of gas and the number of trips to the hardware store, not
> to mention the wasted time, if I can buy something for less than
> $50 I've probably saved money.

I've been looking into this issues too... I've got one of these
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html but it doesn't fit the dust
port on my bandsaw or thickness planer (which are straight steel, not
tapered) nor does it stay on the dust port for the jointer (tapered
plastic). It works fine on the table saw port (steel) and on the CMS station
I built with stock plastic fittings...

I came across this one http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html
which may work. However, the one on-line review isn't very favorable. Don't
know if it is an isolated problem or the norm.

John

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 3:38 AM

"Stephen Quinn" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Larry
>
>> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?
>
> Adapters/Blast gates available at Rockler.
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30200


The link above is what I'm looking for, however, I stood in
front of the isle containing these adapters for 30 minutes and
it seemed there were no 2 adapters that fit together.

After I posted the original message I stumbled onto the
following. Anyone have any experience with this?

http://woodworker.com/sitenews/fazlok.html

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 3:43 AM

Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
> I haven't tried this, but maybe you could take a piece of
> 4" PVC pipe (or equivalent) and permanently attach that to
> the DC ports on your tools. Then, as you move the hose
> from one tool to another, you'll have a consistantly sized
> port for the hose. If the hose fits tightly, you could
> also attach the hose to a PVC coupler and use that instead.
> It will fit snugly, but a simple twist and pull usually
> removes it.
>
> Puckdropper

That's kinda what I want but not interested in building it and
would rather buy something that works. When you consider the
cost of gas and the number of trips to the hardware store, not
to mention the wasted time, if I can buy something for less than
$50 I've probably saved money.

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 2:49 PM

"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:

Snipped...

>
> I've been looking into this issues too... I've got one of
> these http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html but
> it doesn't fit the dust port on my bandsaw or thickness
> planer (which are straight steel, not tapered) nor does it
> stay on the dust port for the jointer (tapered plastic). It
> works fine on the table saw port (steel) and on the CMS
> station I built with stock plastic fittings...

The problem is there is no standard. It falls off of one machine
and fits too tight on another. Seems like every manufacturer
does what they feel like.

> I came across this one
> http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html which may
> work. However, the one on-line review isn't very favorable.
> Don't know if it is an isolated problem or the norm.

At $40 each with a blast gate I don't need I'll pass. The
connection idea is exactly right though.

Larry

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 2:53 PM

Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]>
> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I came across this one
>> http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html which may
>> work. However, the one on-line review isn't very
>> favorable. Don't know if it is an isolated problem or the
>> norm.
>
> Waaaay overkill. Here's my dollar and a quarter 4"
> quick-disconnect:
> http://www.acefactorystore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=4100723&c
> at=186

When that $1.25 hose clamp blows off of your DW735 planer and
covers your wife with planer shavings you'll be looking for
another solution too. ;o}

Larry

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 2:54 PM

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in

>>
>>After I posted the original message I stumbled onto the
>>following. Anyone have any experience with this?
>>
>>http://woodworker.com/sitenews/fazlok.html
>
> Do those come with clamps? Did you see the notice about
> electrical grounding? <bseg>
>

Not even going there. Troll....

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 2:10 PM

Larry <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
> a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
> problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
> workshop in a garage.
>
> My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
> of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
> pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
> allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
> can't get the hose on, or it falls off.
>
> There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
> neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
> Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.
>
> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?

I have several 4" hoses that I switch from machine to machine, and this is what I use to hold
them in place. (Each machine has a standard 4" dust port.)

http://www.acefactorystore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=4100723&cat=186

These cost about two dollars and fifty cents for a pair, at any Ace Hardware. They hold the
hose in place quite tightly, don't overlap the reinforcing wire in the dust hose, make a fairly
tight seal, and require no tools to connect or disconnect.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 2:12 PM

"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I came across this one http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html
> which may work. However, the one on-line review isn't very favorable. Don't
> know if it is an isolated problem or the norm.

Waaaay overkill. Here's my dollar and a quarter 4" quick-disconnect:
http://www.acefactorystore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=4100723&cat=186

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 5:23 PM

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 04 Mar 2012 14:54:47 GMT, Larry <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>>
>>>>
>>>>After I posted the original message I stumbled onto the
>>>>following. Anyone have any experience with this?
>>>>
>>>>http://woodworker.com/sitenews/fazlok.html
>>>
>>> Do those come with clamps? Did you see the notice about
>>> electrical grounding? <bseg>
>>>
>>
>>Not even going there. Troll....
>
> Oops, you misattributed that to me. I only replied, teasing
> about the grounding notice.
>
> --
> It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they
> are not to be approached without some humor and some
> bewilderment.
> -- Freeman
> Dyson
>


I'm pretty damn sure nothing was misattributed. I've seen
those "grounding" threads go on for weeks. I sure as hell
ain't gonna be the one that starts another one of them...

Larry

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 6:09 PM

Larry <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]>
>> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> I came across this one
>>> http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html which may
>>> work. However, the one on-line review isn't very
>>> favorable. Don't know if it is an isolated problem or the
>>> norm.
>>
>> Waaaay overkill. Here's my dollar and a quarter 4"
>> quick-disconnect:
>> http://www.acefactorystore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=4100723&c
>> at=186
>
> When that $1.25 hose clamp blows off of your DW735 planer and
> covers your wife with planer shavings you'll be looking for
> another solution too. ;o}

Guess again. I have a DW735, and that's the clamp that I use to hold the hose onto it. In the
seven years or so that I've been using it, it's never come loose even once.

You came here asking us to tell you what works for us -- that's what works for me. Of course,
if you don't believe that, you're perfectly free to go spend fifty bucks on some other solution
if you want to. It's your money.

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 8:23 PM

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 04 Mar 2012 17:23:04 GMT, Larry <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 04 Mar 2012 14:54:47 GMT, Larry <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After I posted the original message I stumbled onto the
>>>>>>following. Anyone have any experience with this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://woodworker.com/sitenews/fazlok.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Do those come with clamps? Did you see the notice
>>>>> about electrical grounding? <bseg>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Not even going there. Troll....
>>>
>>> Oops, you misattributed that to me. I only replied,
>>> teasing about the grounding notice.
>>>
>>
>>I'm pretty damn sure nothing was misattributed.
>
> I didn't post the Fazlok link or the encapsulating text.
>
>
>>I've seen
>>those "grounding" threads go on for weeks. I sure as hell
>>ain't gonna be the one that starts another one of them...
>
> Let's hope not. <g>
>

I obviously didn't make myself clear. The accusation was the
mention of trolling for comments on grounding should have been
followed by a smiley...

Lr

Larry

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 8:26 PM

Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Larry <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> I came across this one
>>>> http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html which
>>>> may work. However, the one on-line review isn't very
>>>> favorable. Don't know if it is an isolated problem or
>>>> the norm.
>>>
>>> Waaaay overkill. Here's my dollar and a quarter 4"
>>> quick-disconnect:
>>> http://www.acefactorystore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=4100723
>>> &c at=186
>>
>> When that $1.25 hose clamp blows off of your DW735 planer
>> and covers your wife with planer shavings you'll be
>> looking for another solution too. ;o}
>
> Guess again. I have a DW735, and that's the clamp that I
> use to hold the hose onto it. In the seven years or so that
> I've been using it, it's never come loose even once.
>
> You came here asking us to tell you what works for us --
> that's what works for me. Of course, if you don't believe
> that, you're perfectly free to go spend fifty bucks on some
> other solution if you want to. It's your money.
>

You're exactly correct, that's what I was asking for. However,
your solution doesn't work for me and my wife was none too
happy. ;o} Maybe a difference in hoses??

Ll

Leon

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 9:26 AM

On 3/3/2012 7:53 PM, Larry wrote:
> Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
> a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
> problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
> workshop in a garage.
>
> My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
> of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
> pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
> allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
> can't get the hose on, or it falls off.
>
> There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
> neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
> Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.
>
> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?
>
> Larry

I have 30' of hose that I drag around also.

I use this to connect to my equipment

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16961&site=ROCKLER&uuid=&sli_sid=

This works great except when I use my drum sander or my stationary
planer, basically when the hose has to be attached a few feet off of the
ground. Then it some times falls off but not often.

If the planer problem sounds familiar, permanently attach a hose to "it"
that will easily reach and lay on the ground and then attach to your
drag around hose with the above flared coupling and a a rigid coupling
like this.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16971&site=ROCKLER&uuid=&sli_sid=

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 2:02 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>> When that $1.25 hose clamp blows off of your DW735 planer and
>> covers your wife with planer shavings you'll be looking for
>> another solution too. ;o}
>
> Guess again. I have a DW735, and that's the clamp that I use to hold the
> hose onto it. In the
> seven years or so that I've been using it, it's never come loose even
> once.
>
> You came here asking us to tell you what works for us -- that's what works
> for me. Of course,
> if you don't believe that, you're perfectly free to go spend fifty bucks
> on some other solution
> if you want to. It's your money.

Doug,

Isn't part of the fun to spend other people's money? ;~)

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

03/03/2012 11:01 PM

On 04 Mar 2012 03:43:13 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:



>
>That's kinda what I want but not interested in building it and
>would rather buy something that works. When you consider the
>cost of gas and the number of trips to the hardware store, not
>to mention the wasted time, if I can buy something for less than
>$50 I've probably saved money.

$50 is about what I spent to make a simple system with 4" PVC pipe, a
few fittings and flex hose. You do it once and done. The pipe for
mine just hangs from the rafters. You can do it with one trip to the
hardware store and avoid years of frustration that you now have.

LK

Larry Kraus

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 9:08 PM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 3/3/2012 7:53 PM, Larry wrote:
>> Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
>> a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
>> problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
>> workshop in a garage.
>>
>> My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
>> of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
>> pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
>> allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
>> can't get the hose on, or it falls off.
>>
>> There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
>> neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
>> Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.
>>
>> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?
>>
>> Larry
>
>I have 30' of hose that I drag around also.
>
>I use this to connect to my equipment
>
>http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16961&site=ROCKLER&uuid=&sli_sid=
>
>This works great except when I use my drum sander or my stationary
>planer, basically when the hose has to be attached a few feet off of the
>ground. Then it some times falls off but not often.
>
>If the planer problem sounds familiar, permanently attach a hose to "it"
>that will easily reach and lay on the ground and then attach to your
>drag around hose with the above flared coupling and a a rigid coupling
>like this.
>
>http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16971&site=ROCKLER&uuid=&sli_sid=

I'll second the recommendation on the 4" Quick Disconnect Fitting -
Clamped 39620. Actually, mine is the JET JW1038, but Amazon shows it
out of stock, though they do have this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Woodstock-W1038-4-Inch-Connect-Disconnect/dp/B0000DD23N/ref=dp_cp_ob_hi_title_0
I've been dragging my hose around for about 10 years with this
fitting. The flared end jams onto your standard 4" dust ports fairly
solidly, but pulls off easily.

SQ

"Stephen Quinn"

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 1:50 PM

Larry

> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?

Adapters/Blast gates available at Rockler.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30200
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22123

CYA
Steve

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

03/03/2012 10:05 PM

"Larry" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
workshop in a garage.

My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
can't get the hose on, or it falls off.

There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.
********************************************
Split the end of the hose 3 ways. Get some elastic bands, like the top of
underwear, and fasten it to one of the hose segments.

The hose will go over stuff that is now too big, and will get smaller to
hold onto the smaller outlets.

If that is not secure enough, a Velcro tab on the hose could mount to a
Velcro ring on the machine to keep it from slipping off.

Oh, when you spit the hose, take out a small wedge along the split, so it
will be able to go smaller than it is now.

-- Jim in NC

Jj

Jack

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

06/03/2012 11:15 AM

On 3/3/2012 10:38 PM, Larry wrote:
> "Stephen Quinn"<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Larry
>>
>>> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?
>>
>> Adapters/Blast gates available at Rockler.
>>
>> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=30200
>
>
> The link above is what I'm looking for, however, I stood in
> front of the isle containing these adapters for 30 minutes and
> it seemed there were no 2 adapters that fit together.

I've not found this problem, other than they have a bunch of different
sizes so they don't all fit together.

Anyway, I've used Fernco plumbing fittings to connect 3" schedule 40 to
2 1/2 DC hose. The nice thing about Fernco is they come with stainless
steel hose clamps that can be adjusted for tight or loose fit.

HD sells them, as will about every plumbing and HW store on earth, and
they are generally less than Rockler fittings, and far better quality
than plastic fittings for the purpose, and often a good bit cheaper in
price:

http://tinyurl.com/83kutgo

Take a fitting with you to insure the right size.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

Jj

Jack

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

06/03/2012 12:01 PM

On 3/4/2012 3:26 PM, Larry wrote:
> Doug Miller<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Larry<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Doug Miller<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> "John Grossbohlin"<[email protected]>
>>>> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> I came across this one
>>>>> http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html which
>>>>> may work. However, the one on-line review isn't very
>>>>> favorable. Don't know if it is an isolated problem or
>>>>> the norm.
>>>>
>>>> Waaaay overkill. Here's my dollar and a quarter 4"
>>>> quick-disconnect:
>>>> http://www.acefactorystore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=4100723
>>>> &c at=186
>>>
>>> When that $1.25 hose clamp blows off of your DW735 planer
>>> and covers your wife with planer shavings you'll be
>>> looking for another solution too. ;o}
>>
>> Guess again. I have a DW735, and that's the clamp that I
>> use to hold the hose onto it. In the seven years or so that
>> I've been using it, it's never come loose even once.
>>
>> You came here asking us to tell you what works for us --
>> that's what works for me. Of course, if you don't believe
>> that, you're perfectly free to go spend fifty bucks on some
>> other solution if you want to. It's your money.
>>
>
> You're exactly correct, that's what I was asking for. However,
> your solution doesn't work for me and my wife was none too
> happy. ;o} Maybe a difference in hoses??

I don't clamp any hoses on my planer and never had the hose fall off. I
use a standard metal dryer hose on my planer, no clamps, no failures. I
only use clamps on the main hose going to my pre-collection drum, all
the hoses to all my tools are slip fit, and never fall off. If yins are
having trouble, your connections suck, no pun at all.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

07/03/2012 12:20 PM

This works pretty well...

http://www.ptreeusa.com/dustfittings_connector.htm#420

and these do a pretty good job...

http://www.woodcraft.com/Family/2003947/Quick-Disconnect-Fittings.aspx

http://woodworker.com/fazlok-2-12-male-qd-dust-fitting-mssu-146-351.asp
(more pricey solution)

all of this stuff is pretty similar.



> That's kinda what I want but not interested in building it and
> would rather buy something that works. When you consider the
> cost of gas and the number of trips to the hardware store, not
> to mention the wasted time, if I can buy something for less than
> $50 I've probably saved money.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 7:52 AM

On 04 Mar 2012 14:54:47 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>
>>>
>>>After I posted the original message I stumbled onto the
>>>following. Anyone have any experience with this?
>>>
>>>http://woodworker.com/sitenews/fazlok.html
>>
>> Do those come with clamps? Did you see the notice about
>> electrical grounding? <bseg>
>>
>
>Not even going there. Troll....

Oops, you misattributed that to me. I only replied, teasing about the
grounding notice.

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 10:19 AM


"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]>
>> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> I came across this one
>>> http://www.pennstateind.com/store/N-QCMSET4.html which may
>>> work. However, the one on-line review isn't very
>>> favorable. Don't know if it is an isolated problem or the
>>> norm.
>>
>> Waaaay overkill. Here's my dollar and a quarter 4"
>> quick-disconnect:
>> http://www.acefactorystore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=4100723&c
>> at=186
>
> When that $1.25 hose clamp blows off of your DW735 planer and
> covers your wife with planer shavings you'll be looking for
> another solution too. ;o}


Why? ;~)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 12:49 PM

On 04 Mar 2012 20:23:08 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>I obviously didn't make myself clear. The accusation was the
>mention of trolling for comments on grounding should have been
>followed by a smiley...

Welllllll, why didn't you just _say_ so? ;)

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 11:52 AM

On 04 Mar 2012 17:23:04 GMT, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 04 Mar 2012 14:54:47 GMT, Larry <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>After I posted the original message I stumbled onto the
>>>>>following. Anyone have any experience with this?
>>>>>
>>>>>http://woodworker.com/sitenews/fazlok.html
>>>>
>>>> Do those come with clamps? Did you see the notice about
>>>> electrical grounding? <bseg>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not even going there. Troll....
>>
>> Oops, you misattributed that to me. I only replied, teasing
>> about the grounding notice.
>>
>
>I'm pretty damn sure nothing was misattributed.

I didn't post the Fazlok link or the encapsulating text.


>I've seen
>those "grounding" threads go on for weeks. I sure as hell
>ain't gonna be the one that starts another one of them...

Let's hope not. <g>

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to Larry on 04/03/2012 1:53 AM

04/03/2012 6:51 AM

Larry wrote:

> Frustration has finally got the best of me and I'm ready to find
> a solution and reasonably pay what is necessary to fix the
> problem. I have what I'm assuming most of you have which is a
> workshop in a garage.
>
> My dust collection system, if you want to call it that, consists
> of a 4" hose that I drag around from machine to machine. It
> pisses me off that I've been unable to find a "system" that will
> allow me easily to move the hose. Either it fits so tightly you
> can't get the hose on, or it falls off.
>
> There must be something better. One end on the hose that fits
> neatly and securely into an adapter installed on all machines.
> Despite efforts to find such a "system" I have come up empty.
>
> Anyone seen such a critter? If not what are you using?
>
> Larry


Larry, if you are into cheap, try this. Get one stick of 4" PVC, cut six
inch lengths from and install on each machine. Take the female end of that
4" PVC piece and put it on your hose. Instant connect/disconnect.

I went the PVC overhead with the blast gates - get the metal ones to start
with, as they are self cleaning. That and putting a cyclone inline,
removing the filter bag and dumping the dust outside in a small building
made my 1260 HF system work like something twice its size.

Deb


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