Lr

"Leon"

08/12/2007 4:56 PM

Festool New Tools

I got a newsletter indicating that Festool is going to release 3 new tools
in 2008 starting in late Spring.
Apparently 2 new routers and a SCMS. The German site shows the saw and it
looks to be pretty HD.


http://www.festool.de/mediandoweb/index.php?sTemplate=zoom&sTemplateFile=standard.php&BILD=http://wwwinet.my-tts.com/Festool/Kat_2005/halbstat_saegen/jpg_zoom/zoom__hs_sym70e_561160_p_01a.jpg

Also for our German friends is the new

Die Modul-Kantenfräse MFK 700 mit Wechseltischsystem:
Ideal für wechselnde Anforderung


WOW! Are they Lucky!

I believe this to be a flust trim tool.


This topic has 22 replies

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 12:16 PM

On Dec 11, 3:02 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
> > The smoking thing? What is truly disgusting is to see 15-year old kids
> > starting up. With what is known today, how could they be so stupid?
>
> I can't understand how they afford it.

No shit, eh? That crap is starting to get close to a tenner per pack
around these parts.
a pack per day..that's 70 bucks per week..hell, that's a half ounce of
weed furcwyinoutloud.
I can understand raiding your mom's purse for some weed money...but
cigarettes?

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 10:27 AM


"Swingman" wrote

> Funny how that, as an ex-smoker with a nose like a bird dog, there
is not
> much that is more revolting. One of my SIL's smokes and I can hardly
stand
> to be in the same room with her, although she's a real sweetheart
otherwise.

Thought you were describing me for a moment.

As a recovering nicotine addict (30 years and counting), can tell if a
smoker has even been in a room when I enter.

I'm convinced that nicotine is the most insidious drug on the planet.

Lew

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 12:04 PM

On Dec 11, 8:06 am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote
>
> > He sounds a lot cooler than the anesthesiologist who knocked me out
> > today. (For real. I had a mesh put in to fix a rather large
> > hernia...out-patient)
> > Those eStone countertops are heavy!
>
> Ouch. Sorry to hear that ... hope you're doing well, and take care of
> yourself!
>

Only when I laugh, which in my case is often.... especially when I
visit Das Wreckische Gruppe.
Turns out the mesh doc put in, is the best part of a screen door... or
so it feels.

I'm told that Grolsch is a homeopathic cure for discomfort.

The smoking thing? What is truly disgusting is to see 15-year old kids
starting up. With what is known today, how could they be so stupid?

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 3:02 PM

Robatoy wrote:
>
> The smoking thing? What is truly disgusting is to see 15-year old kids
> starting up. With what is known today, how could they be so stupid?
>

I can't understand how they afford it.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

08/12/2007 10:53 AM

On Dec 8, 11:56 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I got a newsletter indicating that Festool is going to release 3 new tools=

> in 2008 starting in late Spring.
> Apparently 2 new routers and a SCMS. The German site shows the saw and it=

> looks to be pretty HD.
>
> http://www.festool.de/mediandoweb/index.php?sTemplate=3Dzoom&sTemplateF...=

>
> Also for our German friends is the new
>
> Die Modul-Kantenfr=E4se MFK 700 mit Wechseltischsystem:
> Ideal f=FCr wechselnde Anforderung
>
> WOW! Are they Lucky!
>
> I believe this to be a flust trim tool.

I already own 3 chop saws. But that adjustable fence looks attractive.

BTW.. I took delivery of their latest Rotex 6" FEQ sander.
I parked it beside my old trusty Rotex. now 4 years old and worked
HARD. (3rd set of brushes now)
At first I wasn't sure I liked the changes...it looked clunky and
weird.
http://www.festoolusa.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=3D7&prodid=3D571594#

After 5 minutes..."ohhh, I get it..." I loved the old Rotex, and I
couldn't have believed there was room for improvement.. somehow they
made a great tool better.

And it is just like Festool to do something so obvious...a two-part
fully adjustable fence....aand then do it so well.

RH

Robert Haar

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

08/12/2007 2:29 PM

On 12/8/07 12:02 PM, "Chip Buchholtz" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
> : I got a newsletter indicating that Festool is going to release 3 new tools
> : in 2008 starting in late Spring.
>
> There's some information about the flush trim router on The Wood
> Whisperer, http://thewoodwhisperer.com/ . Look for the December 6th
> entry.
>
> BTW, I like this site (I'm not affiliated). It's got good basic
> information for newbies and hobbyists, and the site and videos are
> nicely done. All for free, no registration required, donations
> accepted.

The podcast is fun and interesting.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 7:06 AM

"Robatoy" wrote

> He sounds a lot cooler than the anesthesiologist who knocked me out
> today. (For real. I had a mesh put in to fix a rather large
> hernia...out-patient)
> Those eStone countertops are heavy!

Ouch. Sorry to hear that ... hope you're doing well, and take care of
yourself!

> He stank of cigarettes.

Funny how that, as an ex-smoker with a nose like a bird dog, there is not
much that is more revolting. One of my SIL's smokes and I can hardly stand
to be in the same room with her, although she's a real sweetheart otherwise.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/09/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 5:03 PM


"Robatoy" wrote in

> I'm told that Grolsch is a homeopathic cure for discomfort.

LOL ... not a beer drinker, but that word reminds me of something.

Twenty something years ago, give or take, a spiffed up, Madison Ave
looking/talking dude came in the studio to record a commercial, or so he
said. What the flip he was doing in Houston, I have no idea.

Part of the track had this background, Gregorian style, chant:
"Grolsch,Grolsch..." ad infinitum, looped and drowned in $5000 worth of
reverb.

We did all the music, timed it to a gnats ass, then he took off for NY, or
so he said, for the "real talent" ... I assumed he meant some kind of
vocals, but who knows?

Was handsomely paid, and promptly forgot about it.

... about twenty years later, I heard something familiar on the radio, and
it finally dawned on me what they were chanting on that backing track and
realized, finally, that it was a F)(*(&^ beer commercial we recorded!!

All that time I'd thought it was some kind of religious, new age, crystal
bowl meditation shtick/crap ... Hell, I'm coonass and wouldn't have known a
Grolsch from a booger hanging out his nose, but I knew all about Schlitz ...
live and learn.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/09/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

10/12/2007 5:52 PM


"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" wrote

"Leon" wrote:
>
> >
> >Your left out "brain surgery". LOL
> >
>
> You laugh!
>
> One of the local mountain bikers is also the orthopedic surgeon who
> has repaired everyone at the bike shop. They often have tunes
> crankin' in the OR. <G>

One of friends and neighbors is an anesthesiologist who works with a renown
heart surgeon. They have a high tech "sound cart" with a high dollar sound
system permanently mounted that they move from OR to OR.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/09/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

08/12/2007 5:00 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I got a newsletter indicating that Festool is going to release 3 new tools
>in 2008 starting in late Spring.
> Apparently 2 new routers and a SCMS. The German site shows the saw and it
> looks to be pretty HD.


And YES of course I posted the wrong link to the SCMS although the one with
adjustable fences looks interesting/ I don't think it will be available in
the West.

http://www.festool.de/mediandoweb/index.php?sTemplate=zoom&sTemplateFile=standard.php&BILD=http://wwwinet.my-tts.com/Festool/Kat_2005/halbstat_saegen/jpg_zoom/zoom__hs_ks120_561283_p_02a.jpg

b

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 10:43 AM

On Dec 11, 11:27 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I'm convinced that nicotine is the most insidious drug on the planet.
>
> Lew

<http://www1.umn.edu/perio/tobacco/nicaddct.html>

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

10/12/2007 8:54 PM

On Dec 10, 6:52 pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" wrote
>
> "Leon" wrote:
>
> > >Your left out "brain surgery". LOL
>
> > You laugh!
>
> > One of the local mountain bikers is also the orthopedic surgeon who
> > has repaired everyone at the bike shop. They often have tunes
> > crankin' in the OR. <G>
>
> One of friends and neighbors is an anesthesiologist who works with a renown
> heart surgeon. They have a high tech "sound cart" with a high dollar sound
> system permanently mounted that they move from OR to OR.
>

He sounds a lot cooler than the anesthesiologist who knocked me out
today. (For real. I had a mesh put in to fix a rather large
hernia...out-patient)
Those eStone countertops are heavy!

He stank of cigarettes.

CB

"Chip Buchholtz"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

08/12/2007 5:02 PM

Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
: I got a newsletter indicating that Festool is going to release 3 new tools
: in 2008 starting in late Spring.

There's some information about the flush trim router on The Wood
Whisperer, http://thewoodwhisperer.com/ . Look for the December 6th
entry.

BTW, I like this site (I'm not affiliated). It's got good basic
information for newbies and hobbyists, and the site and videos are
nicely done. All for free, no registration required, donations
accepted.

--- Chip

CB

"Chip Buchholtz"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

09/12/2007 12:19 AM

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <[email protected]> wrote:
: I don't have a video IPod, so I don't download "Wood Whisperer", but I
: do like the audio sister podcast, "Wood Talk Online".

You don't need an ipod. I don't have an ipod, but I watch the
"podcast" videos online, in my web browser.

--- Chip

dn

dpb

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 8:37 AM

Swingman wrote:
> "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" wrote
>
> "Leon" wrote:
>>> Your left out "brain surgery". LOL
>>>
>> You laugh!
>>
>> One of the local mountain bikers is also the orthopedic surgeon ...

What is it w/ the orthopedics guys? The fella' here is called "Crash"
(he's a short track driver now pretty good but got the name for his
driving "style" early on...)

--

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

11/12/2007 3:39 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Dec 11, 8:06 am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote
>>
>>> He sounds a lot cooler than the anesthesiologist who knocked me
>>> out
>>> today. (For real. I had a mesh put in to fix a rather large
>>> hernia...out-patient)
>>> Those eStone countertops are heavy!
>>
>> Ouch. Sorry to hear that ... hope you're doing well, and take care
>> of
>> yourself!
>>
>
> Only when I laugh, which in my case is often.... especially when I
> visit Das Wreckische Gruppe.
> Turns out the mesh doc put in, is the best part of a screen door...
> or
> so it feels.
>
> I'm told that Grolsch is a homeopathic cure for discomfort.
>
> The smoking thing? What is truly disgusting is to see 15-year old
> kids
> starting up. With what is known today, how could they be so stupid?

Maybe they figure that it's not how long you live but how well.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

10/12/2007 6:45 PM

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:16:48 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Your left out "brain surgery". LOL
>

You laugh!

One of the local mountain bikers is also the orthopedic surgeon who
has repaired everyone at the bike shop. They often have tunes
crankin' in the OR. <G>

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

12/12/2007 10:46 PM

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:52:23 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:


>One of friends and neighbors is an anesthesiologist who works with a renown
>heart surgeon. They have a high tech "sound cart" with a high dollar sound
>system permanently mounted that they move from OR to OR.

That's exactly what I'm talkin' about! <G>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

10/12/2007 2:16 PM


"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:19:00 +0000 (UTC), "Chip Buchholtz"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You don't need an ipod. I don't have an ipod, but I watch the
>>"podcast" videos online, in my web browser.
>>
>
> I know. <G>
>
> The whole point of my IPod is that I can listen to it while doing
> other things, like driving, flying (when I'm the pilot), mountain
> biking, or less demanding shop tasks, like finishing, thicknessing,
> and sanding.
>

Your left out "brain surgery". LOL

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

08/12/2007 5:52 PM

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:29:51 -0500, Robert Haar <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The podcast is fun and interesting.

I don't have a video IPod, so I don't download "Wood Whisperer", but I
do like the audio sister podcast, "Wood Talk Online".

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

10/12/2007 2:21 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:84c4b37f-0500-4265-9f3b-1738d411b070@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...


And it is just like Festool to do something so obvious...a two-part
fully adjustable fence....aand then do it so well.


You amy be talking about the CMS that we may not be getting. I posted the
wrong link on my first post. The second post is correct for the Kapex
SCMS.


Courtesy of the popwood.com news letter here are some details of the saw
that we should be getting "pretty" soon.

Ok, so how Kapex any different from other sliding miter saws? Festool has
added a number of features that push Kapex past other saws. The bevel clamp
locking mechanism is a simple flip latch located at the top of the tool, not
way around back or in some inconspicuous location as with some other saws.
Lift the bevel clamp and adjustment is all yours. Once adjustments are made
a quick flip down locks everything in position

With the bevel clamp open the first thing you'll notice is the balancing act
of the head. Position the saw head for a bevel cut - right or left - and
wherever you let go, the saw head stays put, even if you're halfway between
a detent. Festool uses counterbalancing springs to hold the head in place.
It's cool


On top of that you are able to fine-tune the bevel with a gear-driven rotary
knob located in one of the rails. Now it's possible to tweak the bevel to
any setting up to and including 47º. Half-degree settings are a snap.

The Kapex is listed as a 10" miter saw, but the cutting abilities would
suggest a 12" instead. This saw affords you generous cutting capacity while
being compact and lightweight. The saw weighs only 47 pounds.

Two additional features really caught my eye, the first being the "fast fix".
This is a system found on other Festool tools that locks the blade for easy
replacement or change. There is no fooling with multiple wrenches. Twist the
knob, grab a wrench and you're back working in no time. And while the "fast
fix" is engaged the trigger is locked out. There's no need to run to the
outlet to unplug the tool.


The second feature I found of interest is how the lasers, the twin lasers,
are adjusted. Don't look at or near the blade or arbor. The adjustment is
located near the handle and the number of adjustments allows you to set the
lasers spot-on based on your particular way of reading the lines. You can
set the lasers to where you split the layout line as you cut, leave the
entire line in tact or make the adjustment to anywhere in between.

Other tools talked about that I'll delve into in a later entry are a trim
router (complete with interchangeable bases), and a large 3hp router that
has a few features I've not seen before including a way to change the base
plates that is ingenious.

Ok, so how Kapex any different from other sliding miter saws? Festool has
added a number of features that push Kapex past other saws. The bevel clamp
locking mechanism is a simple flip latch located at the top of the tool, not
way around back or in some inconspicuous location as with some other saws.
Lift the bevel clamp and adjustment is all yours. Once adjustments are made
a quick flip down locks everything in position

With the bevel clamp open the first thing you'll notice is the balancing act
of the head. Position the saw head for a bevel cut - right or left - and
wherever you let go, the saw head stays put, even if you're halfway between
a detent. Festool uses counterbalancing springs to hold the head in place.
It's cool


On top of that you are able to fine-tune the bevel with a gear-driven rotary
knob located in one of the rails. Now it's possible to tweak the bevel to
any setting up to and including 47º. Half-degree settings are a snap.

The Kapex is listed as a 10" miter saw, but the cutting abilities would
suggest a 12" instead. This saw affords you generous cutting capacity while
being compact and lightweight. The saw weighs only 47 pounds.

Two additional features really caught my eye, the first being the "fast fix".
This is a system found on other Festool tools that locks the blade for easy
replacement or change. There is no fooling with multiple wrenches. Twist the
knob, grab a wrench and you're back working in no time. And while the "fast
fix" is engaged the trigger is locked out. There's no need to run to the
outlet to unplug the tool.


The second feature I found of interest is how the lasers, the twin lasers,
are adjusted. Don't look at or near the blade or arbor. The adjustment is
located near the handle and the number of adjustments allows you to set the
lasers spot-on based on your particular way of reading the lines. You can
set the lasers to where you split the layout line as you cut, leave the
entire line in tact or make the adjustment to anywhere in between.

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Leon" on 08/12/2007 4:56 PM

08/12/2007 7:41 PM

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:19:00 +0000 (UTC), "Chip Buchholtz"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>You don't need an ipod. I don't have an ipod, but I watch the
>"podcast" videos online, in my web browser.
>

I know. <G>

The whole point of my IPod is that I can listen to it while doing
other things, like driving, flying (when I'm the pilot), mountain
biking, or less demanding shop tasks, like finishing, thicknessing,
and sanding.

I don't really want to watch it on the PC. I also have tons of stuff
TiVo'd that "I never watch", according to my wife.

If I had more free time, I'd definitely watch them, but they go down
the scale (I could be working wood, riding my road bike, reading...
<G>), when I'm home.

I might watch the programs on a video IPod while traveling, flying
when I'm not the pilot, etc...


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