In article <[email protected]>, R.H.
<[email protected]> wrote:
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817:
818: Form for something... Making baskets, perhaps?
819: Fencing mask
820:
821:
822:
Tough set (for me) this week.
819 -- flour sifter
821 -- hay spear
On Nov 9, 3:51 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
R.H. wrote:
> > Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour walls?
>
>
> Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three different
> antique boat experts.
>
Hmm, that seems strange, with a leather exterior. A leather boat fender
would dry out and crack very quickly. How big is this thing? For some
reason, I was thinking it was fist-sized.
--riverman
That's a beautiful boat.
Karl
R.H. wrote:
> > Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour walls?
>
>
> Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three different
> antique boat experts.
>
> Just posted the answer page, it has a couple of new photos, some links and a
> little more info:
>
> http://pzphotosan143-t.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
R.H. wrote:
> "humunculus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> > R.H. wrote:
> > > > Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour
> walls?
> > >
> > >
> > > Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three
> different
> > > antique boat experts.
> > >
> >
> > Hmm, that seems strange, with a leather exterior. A leather boat fender
> > would dry out and crack very quickly. How big is this thing? For some
> > reason, I was thinking it was fist-sized.
>
> I was also skeptical about it being a fender for a boat, it's only 6" long
> and 4-1/2" wide. Here are the responses that I got from three different
> antique boat experts:
>
> "We have similar items in the collection and, although I have not done any
> specific research on these pieces, I am told they are fenders or bumpers
> used to prevent damage to a boat while it is tied up to a dock."
>
> "Yes that is an easy one. It is a canoe bumper or fender. It is hung over
> the side of the canoe when rafted out to keep it from rubbing against
> objects."
>
> "It's a fender for a small boat such as a St. Lawrence skiff--we have a
> couple in our collection."
>
> Two of these quotes are from an antique boat museum and the other from a
> nautical antique dealer. I haven't been able to find any others like it on
> the web, but I'm going to go with this answer until I see evidence
> otherwise.
>
>
I'd ask the guy who claimed to have some in his collection to post you
a picture. I have some extensive canoeing experience (15+ years as a
guide) and never saw one for a canoe, new or antique. Most older canoes
would not use one anyway, as the gunwhales would rub against each other
instead of the sides bumping anyway.
Also, being cork filled means that it would deform with lots of
compressions. Most bumpers are cotton batten filled, or made of woven
rope, for that purpose.
I'll keep searching on this one..the proposed answer doesn't sit right.
--riverman
R.H. wrote:
> "humunculus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > R.H. wrote:
> > > > Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour
> walls?
> > >
> > >
> > > Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three
> different
> > > antique boat experts.
> > >
> >
> > Hmm, that seems strange, with a leather exterior. A leather boat fender
> > would dry out and crack very quickly. How big is this thing? For some
> > reason, I was thinking it was fist-sized.
>
> I was also skeptical about it being a fender for a boat, it's only 6" long
> and 4-1/2" wide. Here are the responses that I got from three different
> antique boat experts:
>
> "We have similar items in the collection and, although I have not done any
> specific research on these pieces, I am told they are fenders or bumpers
> used to prevent damage to a boat while it is tied up to a dock."
>
> "Yes that is an easy one. It is a canoe bumper or fender. It is hung over
> the side of the canoe when rafted out to keep it from rubbing against
> objects."
>
> "It's a fender for a small boat such as a St. Lawrence skiff--we have a
> couple in our collection."
>
> Two of these quotes are from an antique boat museum and the other from a
> nautical antique dealer. I haven't been able to find any others like it on
> the web, but I'm going to go with this answer until I see evidence
> otherwise.
It does seem strange. There are many reasons that it is a bad design
for a boat bumper. Of course that doesn't mean that it wasn't a boat
bumper as there are tons of crappy designs being marketed everywhere -
still... Even treated leather would not react well to the sun and
water. It's too small and too thin to stand the boat off of a dock or
another boat enough to make a difference. The cork would float, true,
but the leather would tend to absorb water and get mildewed. If there
were other examples in more typical boat materials, say canvas and
cork, then there'd be some traceable evolution. Maybe it was for some
of the upper crusty Adirondack lodge
mahogany-rowboats-that-cost-more-than-a-car type of boating. That's
something I am not familiar with!
R
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> Rob
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>
817: Somehow I think this is not a cardboard creaser, since it is so short.
I remember a tool like this in the 1940's for expanding the skirts of
aluminum automobile pistons. You ran the small radius wheel up and down
inside the skirt under heavy tension. This caused the metal to flow out from
under the narrow wheel and thus slightly expanded the skirt. This permitted
reuse of a loose piston when they were in short supply.
Don Young
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> On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:51:43 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >The latest set has just been posted:
> >
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
>
> About # 822: is the back side convex, flat, or concave?
Both sides have the same shape, though the wear marks are different, here is
a picture of the other side:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%205/pic822n.jpg
Rob
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> R.H. wrote:
> > >> 818. I'll give a hint for this one, it's a display for use in a
particular
> > type of store for a specific product.
>
> Rotating axe head display? I'm lost on this one.
That's it! Good guess on that. It was marked "axe display for a hardware
store", there were scratches on the wood in the compartments as you would
expect to see on something that would hold a sharp axe.
I'll have the answer page complete later on today.
Rob
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> R.H. wrote:
> > > Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour
walls?
> >
> >
> > Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three
different
> > antique boat experts.
> >
>
> Hmm, that seems strange, with a leather exterior. A leather boat fender
> would dry out and crack very quickly. How big is this thing? For some
> reason, I was thinking it was fist-sized.
I was also skeptical about it being a fender for a boat, it's only 6" long
and 4-1/2" wide. Here are the responses that I got from three different
antique boat experts:
"We have similar items in the collection and, although I have not done any
specific research on these pieces, I am told they are fenders or bumpers
used to prevent damage to a boat while it is tied up to a dock."
"Yes that is an easy one. It is a canoe bumper or fender. It is hung over
the side of the canoe when rafted out to keep it from rubbing against
objects."
"It's a fender for a small boat such as a St. Lawrence skiff--we have a
couple in our collection."
Two of these quotes are from an antique boat museum and the other from a
nautical antique dealer. I haven't been able to find any others like it on
the web, but I'm going to go with this answer until I see evidence
otherwise.
Rob
R.H. wrote:
> The latest set has just been posted:
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
818. Wooden mold for an impeller casting?
821. Don't know what it was intended to be but I can think of a few
people I'd like to use it on.
822. My first thought was a sheet metal dolly but cork-filled it would
have to be for something very soft like fabric or paper.
--
Fred R
"It doesn't really take all kinds; there just *are* all kinds".
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> 817: Somehow I think this is not a cardboard creaser, since it is so
short.
> I remember a tool like this in the 1940's for expanding the skirts of
> aluminum automobile pistons. You ran the small radius wheel up and down
> inside the skirt under heavy tension. This caused the metal to flow out
from
> under the narrow wheel and thus slightly expanded the skirt. This
permitted
> reuse of a loose piston when they were in short supply.
>
> Don Young
This answer is correct. You must have a good memory, it is indeed a piston
expander.
Other answers for this week:
818. I'll give a hint for this one, it's a display for use in a particular
type of store for a specific product.
819. Fencing mask close-up
820. Glass insulator bracket that mounts onto a pole or building
821. Hay harpoon, for lifting large bales of hay into a loft
822. Don't yet know about this item, some type of bumper sounds like it
might be the right answer. Could be for boats but it seems like it would be
a little small for that. I'm still asking around about this piece.
It has been a busy week and I haven't had time to make an answer page, I
should have it finished tomorrow.
Rob
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> R.H. wrote:
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>
> Would #818 be some sort of ticket holder like they
> would use at a luncheon counter?
It wasn't made for holding tickets, and it would never have been used in a
restaurant.
Rob
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>
> Rob
>
819. Sieve.
821. Harpoon perhaps?
822. Cork filled would imply that it was made to float so I'm guessing that
it's some kind of buoy.
> >818. I'll give a hint for this one, it's a display for use in a
particular
> >type of store for a specific product.
>
> Hmm. It strongly resembles a rack for skeins of embroidery floss, so
> I'll broaden the subject just a bit and say yarn or floss skeins?
It wasn't for either yarn or cheese. I'll give another hint, it was used in
a hardware store.
Rob
> 818. Some sort of carousel ...
No correct answers yet for 818, you are correct in that the upper section
can be rotated.
>...for organizing something or other
While it could be used for organizing, there is a better term that more
accurately describes what it's used for. Also, it was made to hold
something specific.
Rob
R.H. wrote:
>> 818. Some sort of carousel ...
>
>
> No correct answers yet for 818, you are correct in that the upper
> section can be rotated.
>
>
>> ...for organizing something or other
>
>
> While it could be used for organizing, there is a better term that
> more accurately describes what it's used for. Also, it was made to
> hold something specific.
>
>
> Rob
Meant for sorting mail ?
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817. For scoring, creasing or marking something fairly soft. Felt,
cardboard, dressmaking maybe.
818. Pigeonhole for organising letters. Hotel use maybe.
819. Fencing mask. Epee, foil etc rather than white picket :)
820. Anchor for cables. Bolt the piece to the ground or concrete. Cable ends
into the two tapered 'nozzles' and a nut screwed onto them crushes the cable
into place.
821. For hauling haybales maybe. For grabbing onto/into something soft
anyway.
822. Some kind of bouy or float. Marking a lobster pot perhaps.
--
Dave Baker
Puma Race Engines
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R.H. wrote:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
817- Looks something like a cardboard creasing tool.
818- Bowl stock for a tinsmith?
819- Looks like the bottom of a flour sifter. Possibly a fencing mask
but the mesh looks a bit weak for that.
820- Standoff for the old glass insulators. Either telegraph or possibly
for sending power on open lead to a building.
821- Bale/Hay spear. Used on either tight hay shocks or bales. Drop it
into the pile and spring the tines. Lift it using the rope and once in
position drop it by tripping the trigger again.
822- Looks like a leather float for something like a lobster trap.
--
Steve W.
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> "Barbara Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:51:43 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >The latest set has just been posted:
> > >
> > >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> > About # 822: is the back side convex, flat, or concave?
>
>
> Both sides have the same shape, though the wear marks are different, here
is
> a picture of the other side:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%205/pic822n.jpg
Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour walls?
--
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Puma Race Engines
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Camp USA engineer minces about for high performance specialist (4,4,7)
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > 817: Somehow I think this is not a cardboard creaser, since it is so
> short.
> > I remember a tool like this in the 1940's for expanding the skirts of
> > aluminum automobile pistons. You ran the small radius wheel up and down
> > inside the skirt under heavy tension. This caused the metal to flow out
> from
> > under the narrow wheel and thus slightly expanded the skirt. This
> permitted
> > reuse of a loose piston when they were in short supply.
> >
> > Don Young
>
>
> This answer is correct. You must have a good memory, it is indeed a
piston
> expander.
>
>
> Other answers for this week:
>
>
> 818. I'll give a hint for this one, it's a display for use in a
particular
> type of store for a specific product.
Cheese. Wedges of Brie perhaps.
--
Dave Baker
Puma Race Engines
www.pumaracing.co.uk
Camp USA engineer minces about for high performance specialist (4,4,7)
According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> The latest set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as usual.
817) Looks like a hand-held miniature version of a tool known as
an "English wheel" -- used for forming three-dimensional curves
into sheet metal.
818) A lazy Susan for something like mail at a guess.
819) Hmm ... a fencer's face guard? It looks a bit too
complex to be a flour sifter, and too empty to be
a windscreen for a microphone.
820) A framework to support a pair of glass insulators for running
low-voltage power wiring along the side of a row of poles. I'm
not sure why it has been painted red -- I somehow doubt that was
the original color.
821) Some sort of gaff for large fish?
822) A bumper of some sort. Not likely to be for boats, with the
leather exterior. Perhaps for where the bumper of a delivery
truck hits the concrete of a loading dock?
Now to see what all the other answers already posted say.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> > >818. I'll give a hint for this one, it's a display for use in a
> particular
> > >type of store for a specific product.
> >
> > Hmm. It strongly resembles a rack for skeins of embroidery floss, so
> > I'll broaden the subject just a bit and say yarn or floss skeins?
>
>
> It wasn't for either yarn or cheese. I'll give another hint, it was used in
> a hardware store.
In which case various sizes of bolts or screws seems rather
likely.
Enjoy,
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riverman wrote:
> R.H. wrote:
>> "humunculus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> R.H. wrote:
>>>>> Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour
>> walls?
>>>>
>>>> Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three
>> different
>>>> antique boat experts.
>>>>
>>> Hmm, that seems strange, with a leather exterior. A leather boat fender
>>> would dry out and crack very quickly. How big is this thing? For some
>>> reason, I was thinking it was fist-sized.
>> I was also skeptical about it being a fender for a boat, it's only 6" long
>> and 4-1/2" wide. Here are the responses that I got from three different
>> antique boat experts:
>>
>> "We have similar items in the collection and, although I have not done any
>> specific research on these pieces, I am told they are fenders or bumpers
>> used to prevent damage to a boat while it is tied up to a dock."
>>
>> "Yes that is an easy one. It is a canoe bumper or fender. It is hung over
>> the side of the canoe when rafted out to keep it from rubbing against
>> objects."
>>
>> "It's a fender for a small boat such as a St. Lawrence skiff--we have a
>> couple in our collection."
>>
>> Two of these quotes are from an antique boat museum and the other from a
>> nautical antique dealer. I haven't been able to find any others like it on
>> the web, but I'm going to go with this answer until I see evidence
>> otherwise.
>>
>>
>
> I'd ask the guy who claimed to have some in his collection to post you
> a picture. I have some extensive canoeing experience (15+ years as a
> guide) and never saw one for a canoe, new or antique. Most older canoes
> would not use one anyway, as the gunwhales would rub against each other
> instead of the sides bumping anyway.
I had a friend who crafted old-fashioned canoes whose maximum beam was
well below the gunwales. It's called tumblehome and dates back at least
to the time cannons were first put aboard ships. To carry cannons well
above the waterline they needed a wide beam for stability against
tipping over. But a wide beam means more tipping from waves, so the
guns would be swinging up and down too fast to aim.
The tumblehome provided stability against capsizing and stability
against waves. That's also why it was traditionally popular in canoes.
Even if waves are not a concern, the tumblehome's narrow gunwales can
make paddling easier.
>
> Also, being cork filled means that it would deform with lots of
> compressions. Most bumpers are cotton batten filled, or made of woven
> rope, for that purpose.
>
I imagine my friend would have wanted such a bumper in case he tied
alongside something instead of pulling his canoe out of the water. As
he carried his canoe and gear through the woods, he would not have
wanted a bumper of waterlogged cotton.
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:17:56 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 817: Somehow I think this is not a cardboard creaser, since it is so
>short.
>> I remember a tool like this in the 1940's for expanding the skirts of
>> aluminum automobile pistons. You ran the small radius wheel up and down
>> inside the skirt under heavy tension. This caused the metal to flow out
>from
>> under the narrow wheel and thus slightly expanded the skirt. This
>permitted
>> reuse of a loose piston when they were in short supply.
>>
>> Don Young
>
>
>This answer is correct. You must have a good memory, it is indeed a piston
>expander.
>
>
>Other answers for this week:
>
>
>818. I'll give a hint for this one, it's a display for use in a particular
>type of store for a specific product.
Hmm. It strongly resembles a rack for skeins of embroidery floss, so
I'll broaden the subject just a bit and say yarn or floss skeins?
>819. Fencing mask close-up
>
>820. Glass insulator bracket that mounts onto a pole or building
>
>821. Hay harpoon, for lifting large bales of hay into a loft
>
>822. Don't yet know about this item, some type of bumper sounds like it
>might be the right answer. Could be for boats but it seems like it would be
>a little small for that. I'm still asking around about this piece.
>
>
>It has been a busy week and I haven't had time to make an answer page, I
>should have it finished tomorrow.
>
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour walls?
Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three different
antique boat experts.
Just posted the answer page, it has a couple of new photos, some links and a
little more info:
http://pzphotosan143-t.blogspot.com/
Rob
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:48:38 +0000, Fred R wrote:
> R.H. wrote:
>> The latest set has just been posted:
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 818. Wooden mold for an impeller casting?
>
> 821. Don't know what it was intended to be but I can think of a few
> people I'd like to use it on.
>
> 822. My first thought was a sheet metal dolly but cork-filled it would
> have to be for something very soft like fabric or paper.
A sap that doesn't leave marks? ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:51:43 GMT, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>The latest set has just been posted:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
About # 822: is the back side convex, flat, or concave?
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> Rob, may I email you some pics of a handtool someone presented to me
> recently. I have no idea what it is, nor what it may have been used
> for.
Yes, anyone is welcome to send photos to me of their unidentified tools.
Rob
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> R.H. wrote:
> > "humunculus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > R.H. wrote:
> > > > > Does it hang on the side of boats to protect them against harbour
> > walls?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Another good guess, turns out this is correct, verified by three
> > different
> > > > antique boat experts.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, that seems strange, with a leather exterior. A leather boat
fender
> > > would dry out and crack very quickly. How big is this thing? For some
> > > reason, I was thinking it was fist-sized.
> >
> > I was also skeptical about it being a fender for a boat, it's only 6"
long
> > and 4-1/2" wide. Here are the responses that I got from three different
> > antique boat experts:
> >
> > "We have similar items in the collection and, although I have not done
any
> > specific research on these pieces, I am told they are fenders or bumpers
> > used to prevent damage to a boat while it is tied up to a dock."
> >
> > "Yes that is an easy one. It is a canoe bumper or fender. It is hung
over
> > the side of the canoe when rafted out to keep it from rubbing against
> > objects."
> >
> > "It's a fender for a small boat such as a St. Lawrence skiff--we have a
> > couple in our collection."
> >
> > Two of these quotes are from an antique boat museum and the other from a
> > nautical antique dealer. I haven't been able to find any others like it
on
> > the web, but I'm going to go with this answer until I see evidence
> > otherwise.
> >
> >
>
> I'd ask the guy who claimed to have some in his collection to post you
> a picture. I have some extensive canoeing experience (15+ years as a
> guide) and never saw one for a canoe, new or antique. Most older canoes
> would not use one anyway, as the gunwhales would rub against each other
> instead of the sides bumping anyway.
I'll go ahead and ask them if they can get me a photo. The antique dealer
said that one of his was filled with saw dust.
Rob