Need a quick response guys.. New concrete on top of old.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:19 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >if you dont have time to go down to the hardware store to get the proper
> >stuff, or wait until you can, when are you gonna find time to tear up
this
> >hack job and fix it?
> >
> Considering a 6x5 garbage can storage unit is going on top of this I doubt
I'll
> be tearing it up.
> I simple asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not essential.
> Thanks for the useless advice.

give incomplete information, get a useless answer.

at least the garbage is right next to the place youll be ripping out this
hack job so you wont have to carry it far...

randy

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:21:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:57:33 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> I simply asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not essential.
>>> Thanks for the useless advice.
>>
>>Criticism aside, you received your answer in almost every response. They may
>>not have been phrased exactly the way you would have liked them, but it
>>should have been obvious to you that the answer was "no". They weren't
>>critical or attacking replies, so why are you bent out of shape?
>>
>Same thing I asked Nick.
>
>ADHD sufferer are ya?
>Vision problems?
>Lacking in reading skills?
>English not your first language?
>Alzheimers?
>
>Or are you just dumb as a sack of hammers?
>
>It's jackasses like you who have ruined these groups.


No, WayneKelly, it's self righteous pricks like you who make usenet
less than it should be.

<<<PLONK>>>>>

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:57:33 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> I simply asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not
essential.
> >> Thanks for the useless advice.
> >
> >Criticism aside, you received your answer in almost every response. They
may
> >not have been phrased exactly the way you would have liked them, but it
> >should have been obvious to you that the answer was "no". They weren't
> >critical or attacking replies, so why are you bent out of shape?
> >
> Same thing I asked Nick.
>
> ADHD sufferer are ya?
> Vision problems?
> Lacking in reading skills?
> English not your first language?
> Alzheimers?
>
> Or are you just dumb as a sack of hammers?
>
> It's jackasses like you who have ruined these groups.

what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when its
offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice? if you didnt want
answers why did you ask the question?

apparantly you call them wayne...

randy

dave doesn't this belong in the digital group?

[email protected] wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:06:47 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:41:01 -0500, "Todd Fatheree"
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when
>>
>>its
>>
>>>>>offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice? if you didnt want
>>>>>answers why did you ask the question?
>>>>>
>>>>>apparantly you call them wayne...
>>>>>
>>>>>randy
>>>>
>>>>My favorite part was when he came back with the info from the concrete
>>
>>guy
>>
>>>>who's been pouring concrete since he was 12 (no chance he's wrong) saying
>>>>that, surprise, the way Wayne wanted to do it was 100% right and everyone
>>>>else was wrong. I'm like "shit, Wayne...if you could get on the horn
>>
>>with
>>
>>>>the concrete guy, why are you wasting our time?".
>>>>
>>>
>>>Another mental midget who can't read.
>>>Try reading the question I ask you power tripping shit for brains.
>>>
>>>Here it is:
>>>
>>>I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
>>
>>sidewalk 2
>>
>>>inches thick.
>>>I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
>>>I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
>>
>>this? Or
>>
>>>is it a waste of time.
>>>
>>>What part of the USE Titebond yes or no did you fail to understand?
>>
>>dude, you're busier defending yourself than a nymphomaniac whore on a
>>submarine...
>>
>
> No, I'm pointing out that what used to be a good couple of usenet groups are now
> filled with rude power tripping tits like you.<g>

Sun, Jul 11, 2004, 4:01pm (EDT+4) [email protected] claims:
I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
sidewalk 2 inches thick.
I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick. I have some
TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use this? Or is it
a waste of time.
Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I
have to do this with materials on hand.
Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.

Gods above, me and the Woodworking Gods all agree, Al Whashisname's
internet is the best entertainment ever.

We're not totally clear on what you're planning to do, you seem to
have left out a detail or two. No matter. We'll give an opinion
anyway. LMAO

You want to do this OVER a sidewalk? A public sidewalk, or private?
If it's a public sidewalk, I would imagine the city would have some say
in the matter.

Well, it's Sunday here too. We do have a hardware store in town
(small farm town), but I'm not sure if it's open on Sunday mornings or
not - been a lonnng time since I've been into town on a Sunday morning.
LOL However. There is ALWAYS a however. There is a Wal-Mart about 3
miles away, and that's open on Sunday. A garden shop even closer,
that's probably open on Sunday. You never did say just what supplies
you loacked. Anyway, each would have wire mesh - somehow rebar cam into
the discussion, and yes, wire mesh would work better, as you were
advised. You should do a bit of research on ferroconcret. Fascinating.
Anyway, within about 10 miles of me are also two more Wal-Marts, two
K-Marts, two Target Stores, three Lowes, and one Home Depot, that I'm
aware of, all open on Sunday.

I've never heard of putting any adhesive down for concrete work.
Interesting. I've been considering dong something similar to what you
want to do, for my conrete porch, but not quite as thick. But, I'd
figured on a muratic acid wash, to etch it (and rinsed off, carefully,
after), then a few bags of a mix made especially for that purpose.
After careful consideration, I think I'll stick to that plan. LOL

Like I said, I'm not really sure of what you're planning on doing.
Me, I'd figure a 2" slab probably wouldn't be sliding around, even
without the glue, and would probably just pour it. Probably use some
mesh in it, especially if it's gonna get a lot of foot traffic. Even
chicken wire will work - like I said, check out ferrocement, or
ferroconcrete - they've even made boats with 1/4" thick hulls - mostly
experimental tho, 1/2", and up, is better. I take it there won't be any
vehicles driving on it?

Making a success of the job at hand is the best step toward the kind you
want.
- Bernard M. Baruch
More likely, your boss gets a raise and/or promotion, from getting
credit for your work.
- JOAT

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:41:01 -0500, "Todd Fatheree"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when
its
> >> offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice? if you didnt want
> >> answers why did you ask the question?
> >>
> >> apparantly you call them wayne...
> >>
> >> randy
> >
> >My favorite part was when he came back with the info from the concrete
guy
> >who's been pouring concrete since he was 12 (no chance he's wrong) saying
> >that, surprise, the way Wayne wanted to do it was 100% right and everyone
> >else was wrong. I'm like "shit, Wayne...if you could get on the horn
with
> >the concrete guy, why are you wasting our time?".
> >
> Another mental midget who can't read.
> Try reading the question I ask you power tripping shit for brains.
>
> Here it is:
>
> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
sidewalk 2
> inches thick.
> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
this? Or
> is it a waste of time.
>
> What part of the USE Titebond yes or no did you fail to understand?

dude, you're busier defending yourself than a nymphomaniac whore on a
submarine...

randy

> > No, I'm pointing out that what used to be a good couple of usenet groups
> are now filled with rude power tripping tits like you.<g>

Its still a great Woodworking NG...Concrete questions ARE probably better
sent to Home repair where you no doubt, got a better reception.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:28:56 GMT, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> It seems that some of the know-it-all types who really don't know much have to
> act like idiots when you don't take their advice.
(snip)
> I would like to thank all the guys who actually responded to my question.

And oddly enough, some of us who have seen how you respond to people
who spent time trying to give you advice, won't bother to spend any
time answering you in the future. Just because you don't like the
answer, doesn't mean you have to call them idiots - keep it up and you'll
find yourself talking, but nobody listening.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:46:33 GMT, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12 Jul 2004 18:28:00 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>And oddly enough, some of us who have seen how you respond to people
>>who spent time trying to give you advice, won't bother to spend any
>>time answering you in the future. Just because you don't like the
>>answer, doesn't mean you have to call them idiots - keep it up and you'll
>>find yourself talking, but nobody listening.
>
> Dave, have you tried foreplay. Maybe if you did your wife would want to have sex
> more often with you if you did.
> I know you didn't ask for this advice but I thought I would offer it anyway.<g>

Yawn. Well, as long as you _know_ that you're being perceived as an
obnoxios person not worth trying to help, my work here is done. Bye,
WayneKelly, I'll waste no more time with you.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:07:48 GMT, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

(doesn't matter what he wrote, actually).

Oh look, he's nym-shifted. <plonk> again, WayneKelly.

If it isn't a troll, I see many people who want to take the easy way out, or
a shortcut method. They ask the newsgroup readers to get their approval for
the shortcut method of doing a job. This way when it fails, they can blame
the newsgroup and say ".....they said it would work" or "....this is the way
they said to do it", "its their fault not mine".

Sometimes it works out that the newsgroup readers tell a person the correct
way to do it and warn him that his way will fail, as happened here.

"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> if you dont have time to go down to the hardware store to get the proper
> stuff, or wait until you can, when are you gonna find time to tear up this
> hack job and fix it?
>
> if the auto store is closed do you tape a pie pan on the axle to fix a
flat
> too?
>
> randy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
> sidewalk 2
> > inches thick.
> > I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> > I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
> this? Or
> > is it a waste of time.
> > Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I
have
> to do
> > this with materials on hand.
> >
> > Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
>

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:01:12 -0600, [email protected] wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

>
> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of sidewalk 2
> inches thick.
> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use this?
> Or
> is it a waste of time.
> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have to
> do
> this with materials on hand.
>
> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>
> Thanks.
>

I don't know about the glue, but a common "trick" is to dust the slab with
some latex modified thinset (HD versabond).

-Bruce

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:59:05 GMT, "AL" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I would not use a wood glue like Titebond. At best it would do nothing. At
>worst, it would prevent the concrete from sticking.
>
>When I repaired my concrete patio, I used a special adhesive intended for
>concrete. It was inexpensive and was sold at the local home center near
>where they keep concrete patch.
>
>I am a firm believer in using the right tool (or in this case, adhesive) for
>the job.




I'd say you're partly right.

if this was a job for hire, or something that was going to be
inspected, or something built to any kind of specifications, I'd say
go with new concrete bonder from the contractor's supply store (or
whatever the plans specify).

the OP wasn't doing a job like that. he was laying a light duty slab
over some old, worn concrete and happened to have a jug of titebond
around. the rough concrete he's going over will provide pretty good
tooth to begin with.

now, having used bunches of adhesives in the white glue/concrete
bonder/yellow glue class, it's obvious that they are all variations on
the PVA chemistry. I suspect that latex paint isn't too far different
either. my understanding is that the main differences between white
and yellow glues is yellow glue has less open time and more cured
water resistance than white glue. concrete bonder seems more like
white glue, although in some brands there is an extra smell I can't
identify. it's a relatively cheap product and not marketed for the
crafts market, so the smell may just be something that was removed
from the higher priced white glue to make it palatable for the
housewife/ kindergarten market. the smell may OTOH be something needed
for concrete bonder to perform well as concrete bonder. I don't know.

just guessing, I'd say that the OP's yellow glue will do just fine as
bonder for his application.

















>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
>sidewalk 2
>> inches thick.
>> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
>> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
>this? Or
>> is it a waste of time.
>> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have
>to do
>> this with materials on hand.
>>
>> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

In article <[email protected]>, Jules <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi dave!!!

Naaah, I don't think so. The ISP, the news server, and the news client are all
different from BAD's.

But I *am* beginning to suspect that Wayne is a recon troll....

--
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Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
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On 12 Jul 2004 20:05:33 GMT, Village Idiot Dave Hinz <[email protected]>
wrote:


>> Dave, have you tried foreplay. Maybe if you did your wife would want to have sex
>> more often with you if you did.
>> I know you didn't ask for this advice but I thought I would offer it anyway.<g>
>
>Yawn. Well, as long as you _know_ that you're being perceived as an
>obnoxios person not worth trying to help, my work here is done. Bye,
>WayneKelly, I'll waste no more time with you.

Help? You offered help?
I suspect I know more about it than you do yet you can't resist responding.
I've been reading this group for many years and most of the people who really
knew what they were talking about have left.
The group is full of shits like you now.
People who expect those who ask for information to grovel while being insulted.
You're a power tripping putz.
It's people like you who killed this group.

Eric Tonks wrote:
> If it isn't a troll,

You had to wonder?

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
sidewalk 2
> inches thick.
> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
this? Or
> is it a waste of time.
> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have
to do
> this with materials on hand.
>
> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>
> Thanks.
Sure it will not hurt to put the stuff down. Shelf life is usually under
listed anyway.

Rough up the concrete before you put the steel. I think rebar is a bit over
kill for a 2 inch slab, steel mesh or wire screen would have been my choice.

Have fun

Hi dave!!!

[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:57:33 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>I simply asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not essential.
>>>Thanks for the useless advice.
>>
>>Criticism aside, you received your answer in almost every response. They may
>>not have been phrased exactly the way you would have liked them, but it
>>should have been obvious to you that the answer was "no". They weren't
>>critical or attacking replies, so why are you bent out of shape?
>>
>
> Same thing I asked Nick.
>
> ADHD sufferer are ya?
> Vision problems?
> Lacking in reading skills?
> English not your first language?
> Alzheimers?
>
> Or are you just dumb as a sack of hammers?
>
> It's jackasses like you who have ruined these groups.

<[email protected]> wrote in message > >
> >Criticism aside, you received your answer in almost every response. They
may
> >not have been phrased exactly the way you would have liked them, but it
> >should have been obvious to you that the answer was "no". They weren't
> >critical or attacking replies, so why are you bent out of shape?
> >
> Same thing I asked Nick.
>
> ADHD sufferer are ya?
> Vision problems?
> Lacking in reading skills?
> English not your first language?
> Alzheimers?
>
> Or are you just dumb as a sack of hammers?
> It's jackasses like you who have ruined these groups.

My mistake. You trolled and I got caught.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I simply asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not essential.
> Thanks for the useless advice.

Criticism aside, you received your answer in almost every response. They may
not have been phrased exactly the way you would have liked them, but it
should have been obvious to you that the answer was "no". They weren't
critical or attacking replies, so why are you bent out of shape?

"Rudy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1N2Jc.11468$Mr4.7824@pd7tw1no...
>
> > > No, I'm pointing out that what used to be a good couple of usenet
groups
> > are now filled with rude power tripping tits like you.<g>
>
> Its still a great Woodworking NG...Concrete questions ARE probably better
> sent to Home repair where you no doubt, got a better reception.

oh yeah, its much better over there <g>

randy

[email protected] wrote:
> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of sidewalk 2
> inches thick.
> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use this? Or
> is it a waste of time.
> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have to do
> this with materials on hand.
>
> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>
> Thanks.
>
Not sure why so much discussion. The stuff to use is called concrete
glue. Its purpose in life is to add a bit of bonding strength between
old concrete and fresh pour. I've used a brand called Pakmix, IIRC.
mahalo,
jo4hn

There is a latex adhesive to help with the bond, HD has it. I would not try
to save a few dollars to avoid using the proper adhesive. Also, make
certain that the old surface is CLEAN of debris and WET THE OLD SURFACE DOWN
with water so that it does not prematurely wick the water out of new uncured
cement.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
sidewalk 2
> inches thick.
> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
this? Or
> is it a waste of time.
> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have
to do
> this with materials on hand.
>
> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>
> Thanks.
>

"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when its
> offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice?

Bay Area Dave?

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:37:43 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
>> what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when its
>> offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice?
>
>Bay Area Dave?
>



AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

dave, wayne what is it to be?

[email protected] wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:38:05 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>>dude, you're busier defending yourself than a nymphomaniac whore on a
>>>>submarine...
>>>>
>>>
>>>No, I'm pointing out that what used to be a good couple of usenet groups
>>
>>are now
>>
>>>filled with rude power tripping tits like you.<g>
>>
>>well whatever you're doing, you are certainly comitted <g>
>>
> Well at least while I'm on holiday and it's raining steady.<g>
> I'll let you 'woodworkers' get back to your usual rw circle jerk after the
> weekend.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:38:26 -0700, "SQLit" <[email protected]>
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Serious question. Where was rebar mentioned? I must have missed a
message somehow.

>Rough up the concrete before you put the steel. I think rebar is a bit over
>kill for a 2 inch slab, steel mesh or wire screen would have been my choice.
>
>Have fun
>

Let us know when your back home! California is a great place.

[email protected] wrote:

> Well at least while I'm on holiday and it's raining steady.<g>
> I'll let you 'woodworkers' get back to your usual rw circle jerk after the
> weekend.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:30:10 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of sidewalk 2
>> inches thick.
>> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
>> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use this? Or
>> is it a waste of time.
>> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have to do
>> this with materials on hand.
>>
>> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>Not sure why so much discussion. The stuff to use is called concrete
>glue. Its purpose in life is to add a bit of bonding strength between
>old concrete and fresh pour. I've used a brand called Pakmix, IIRC.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

It seems that some of the know-it-all types who really don't know much have to
act like idiots when you don't take their advice.
My question was simple enough. Would throwing in some old Titebond help or hurt.
I already knew from experience that plain old white glue is a pretty good
bonding agent but I wasn't sure about TiteBond.
Well the job is done and I got rid of some 18 month old TiteBond at the same
time.
Checked this morning and the bond is still holding.<g>
Now to build the bear proof unit for the garbage cans.

I would like to thank all the guys who actually responded to my question.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:35:18 -0600, Trying to emulate his hero GWBush ."xrongor"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>if you didnt want
>answers why did you ask the question?

Are you really this fucking dense?
Please repost the question I asked and then try reading it.

It might help if you remove your head from your ass first.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:48:51 -0600, Village Idiot "xrongor"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:19 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>> >if you dont have time to go down to the hardware store to get the proper
>> >stuff, or wait until you can, when are you gonna find time to tear up
>this
>> >hack job and fix it?
>> >
>> Considering a 6x5 garbage can storage unit is going on top of this I doubt
>I'll
>> be tearing it up.
>> I simple asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not essential.
>> Thanks for the useless advice.
>
>give incomplete information, get a useless answer.
>
>at least the garbage is right next to the place youll be ripping out this
>hack job so you wont have to carry it far...
>
Actually you don't have a clue.
All hat no cattle.

I just talked to the guy who poured my 24x36 shop pad last year, he owns 3
redimix plants and has been in the business since he was 12 and he would do
exactly what I'm doing.
Wire mesh is useless, top coat is useless for my application.
Considering the sidewalk surface is completely worn away acid is a waste of
money. He would lay rebar and pour the pad on a damp sidewalk. Glue is optional.
Consdering I'm 60 miles from the closest hardware store or even a source of
washed gravel bagged redimix is perfect.

So fuck you shit for brains!

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:57:33 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I simply asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not essential.
>> Thanks for the useless advice.
>
>Criticism aside, you received your answer in almost every response. They may
>not have been phrased exactly the way you would have liked them, but it
>should have been obvious to you that the answer was "no". They weren't
>critical or attacking replies, so why are you bent out of shape?
>
Same thing I asked Nick.

ADHD sufferer are ya?
Vision problems?
Lacking in reading skills?
English not your first language?
Alzheimers?

Or are you just dumb as a sack of hammers?

It's jackasses like you who have ruined these groups.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:46:33 GMT, [email protected] vaguely
proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>Dave, have you tried foreplay. Maybe if you did your wife would want to have sex
>more often with you if you did.
>I know you didn't ask for this advice

Precisely.

_He_ didn't _ask_ for advice on that topic. You did ask for advice on
laying concrete.....

So you have given unsought advice. You seem unhappy with sought advice
that went against what you wanted to hear.

"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when its
> offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice? if you didnt want
> answers why did you ask the question?
>
> apparantly you call them wayne...
>
> randy

My favorite part was when he came back with the info from the concrete guy
who's been pouring concrete since he was 12 (no chance he's wrong) saying
that, surprise, the way Wayne wanted to do it was 100% right and everyone
else was wrong. I'm like "shit, Wayne...if you could get on the horn with
the concrete guy, why are you wasting our time?".

todd

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:19 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote:

>if you dont have time to go down to the hardware store to get the proper
>stuff, or wait until you can, when are you gonna find time to tear up this
>hack job and fix it?
>
Considering a 6x5 garbage can storage unit is going on top of this I doubt I'll
be tearing it up.
I simple asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not essential.
Thanks for the useless advice.

>if the auto store is closed do you tape a pie pan on the axle to fix a flat
>too?
>
>randy
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
>sidewalk 2
>> inches thick.
>> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
>> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
>this? Or
>> is it a waste of time.
>> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have
>to do
>> this with materials on hand.
>>
>> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

On 12 Jul 2004 18:28:00 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:28:56 GMT, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It seems that some of the know-it-all types who really don't know much have to
>> act like idiots when you don't take their advice.
>(snip)
>> I would like to thank all the guys who actually responded to my question.
>
>And oddly enough, some of us who have seen how you respond to people
>who spent time trying to give you advice, won't bother to spend any
>time answering you in the future. Just because you don't like the
>answer, doesn't mean you have to call them idiots - keep it up and you'll
>find yourself talking, but nobody listening.

Dave, have you tried foreplay. Maybe if you did your wife would want to have sex
more often with you if you did.
I know you didn't ask for this advice but I thought I would offer it anyway.<g>

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:48:51 -0600, Village Idiot "xrongor"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:15:19 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >if you dont have time to go down to the hardware store to get the
proper
> >> >stuff, or wait until you can, when are you gonna find time to tear up
> >this
> >> >hack job and fix it?
> >> >
> >> Considering a 6x5 garbage can storage unit is going on top of this I
doubt
> >I'll
> >> be tearing it up.
> >> I simple asked if glue would help the new crete stick. It's not
essential.
> >> Thanks for the useless advice.
> >
> >give incomplete information, get a useless answer.
> >
> >at least the garbage is right next to the place youll be ripping out this
> >hack job so you wont have to carry it far...
> >
> Actually you don't have a clue.
> All hat no cattle.
>
> I just talked to the guy who poured my 24x36 shop pad last year, he owns 3
> redimix plants and has been in the business since he was 12 and he would
do
> exactly what I'm doing.
> Wire mesh is useless, top coat is useless for my application.
> Considering the sidewalk surface is completely worn away acid is a waste
of
> money. He would lay rebar and pour the pad on a damp sidewalk. Glue is
optional.
> Consdering I'm 60 miles from the closest hardware store or even a source
of
> washed gravel bagged redimix is perfect.
>
> So fuck you shit for brains!

enjoy your new sandbox.

randy

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:38:05 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> >dude, you're busier defending yourself than a nymphomaniac whore on a
>> >submarine...
>> >
>> No, I'm pointing out that what used to be a good couple of usenet groups
>are now
>> filled with rude power tripping tits like you.<g>
>
>well whatever you're doing, you are certainly comitted <g>
>
Well at least while I'm on holiday and it's raining steady.<g>
I'll let you 'woodworkers' get back to your usual rw circle jerk after the
weekend.

> >dude, you're busier defending yourself than a nymphomaniac whore on a
> >submarine...
> >
> No, I'm pointing out that what used to be a good couple of usenet groups
are now
> filled with rude power tripping tits like you.<g>

well whatever you're doing, you are certainly comitted <g>

randy

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:47:03 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

>- somehow rebar cam into
>the discussion,

Oh good, it's not just me....

if you dont have time to go down to the hardware store to get the proper
stuff, or wait until you can, when are you gonna find time to tear up this
hack job and fix it?

if the auto store is closed do you tape a pie pan on the axle to fix a flat
too?

randy

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
sidewalk 2
> inches thick.
> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
this? Or
> is it a waste of time.
> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have
to do
> this with materials on hand.
>
> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>
> Thanks.
>

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:50:09 GMT, Old Nick <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:46:33 GMT, [email protected] vaguely
>proposed a theory
>......and in reply I say!:
>
> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>
>>Dave, have you tried foreplay. Maybe if you did your wife would want to have sex
>>more often with you if you did.
>>I know you didn't ask for this advice
>
>Precisely.
>
>_He_ didn't _ask_ for advice on that topic. You did ask for advice on
>laying concrete.....
>
>So you have given unsought advice. You seem unhappy with sought advice
>that went against what you wanted to hear.

ADHD sufferer are ya Nick?
Vision problems?
Lacking in reading skills?
English not your first language?
Alzheimers?

Or are you just dumb as a sack of hammers?

I would not use a wood glue like Titebond. At best it would do nothing. At
worst, it would prevent the concrete from sticking.

When I repaired my concrete patio, I used a special adhesive intended for
concrete. It was inexpensive and was sold at the local home center near
where they keep concrete patch.

I am a firm believer in using the right tool (or in this case, adhesive) for
the job.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
sidewalk 2
> inches thick.
> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
this? Or
> is it a waste of time.
> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have
to do
> this with materials on hand.
>
> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>
> Thanks.
>

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:38:26 -0700, "SQLit" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
>sidewalk 2
>> inches thick.
>> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
>> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
>this? Or
>> is it a waste of time.
>> Being Sunday I have no access to any hardware stores in my area so I have
>to do
>> this with materials on hand.
>>
>> Thanks for any quick responses. I'm going to build the form right now.
>>
>> Thanks.
>Sure it will not hurt to put the stuff down. Shelf life is usually under
>listed anyway.
>
>Rough up the concrete before you put the steel. I think rebar is a bit over
>kill for a 2 inch slab, steel mesh or wire screen would have been my choice.
>
>Have fun
>
The rebar is to support the 'wings'. It will just lie on top of the sidewalk.
This is actually a 6x5 slab across the sidewalk.
So there are 4-5 inch thick sections 5' x1.5' on each side of the sidewalk.
The 2in topcoat is because that's the maximum height I can go above the
sidewalk.

So it's a 6x5 slab with an existing 3'x5' 8 inch thick section of sidewalk under
the middle.
A water tight garbage can storge unit will go over this.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:06:47 -0600, "xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:41:01 -0500, "Todd Fatheree"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >> what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when
>its
>> >> offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice? if you didnt want
>> >> answers why did you ask the question?
>> >>
>> >> apparantly you call them wayne...
>> >>
>> >> randy
>> >
>> >My favorite part was when he came back with the info from the concrete
>guy
>> >who's been pouring concrete since he was 12 (no chance he's wrong) saying
>> >that, surprise, the way Wayne wanted to do it was 100% right and everyone
>> >else was wrong. I'm like "shit, Wayne...if you could get on the horn
>with
>> >the concrete guy, why are you wasting our time?".
>> >
>> Another mental midget who can't read.
>> Try reading the question I ask you power tripping shit for brains.
>>
>> Here it is:
>>
>> I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of
>sidewalk 2
>> inches thick.
>> I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
>> I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use
>this? Or
>> is it a waste of time.
>>
>> What part of the USE Titebond yes or no did you fail to understand?
>
>dude, you're busier defending yourself than a nymphomaniac whore on a
>submarine...
>
No, I'm pointing out that what used to be a good couple of usenet groups are now
filled with rude power tripping tits like you.<g>

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:41:01 -0500, "Todd Fatheree"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"xrongor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> what do you call someone who asks for advice, then doesnt take it when its
>> offered and attacks everyone for giving that advice? if you didnt want
>> answers why did you ask the question?
>>
>> apparantly you call them wayne...
>>
>> randy
>
>My favorite part was when he came back with the info from the concrete guy
>who's been pouring concrete since he was 12 (no chance he's wrong) saying
>that, surprise, the way Wayne wanted to do it was 100% right and everyone
>else was wrong. I'm like "shit, Wayne...if you could get on the horn with
>the concrete guy, why are you wasting our time?".
>
Another mental midget who can't read.
Try reading the question I ask you power tripping shit for brains.

Here it is:

I'm ready to use a few bags of ready mix to top a small section of sidewalk 2
inches thick.
I've heard that a little white glue will help it stick.
I have some TiteBond II reaching the end of it's shelf life can I use this? Or
is it a waste of time.

What part of the USE Titebond yes or no did you fail to understand?