It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of people
from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost as many
from the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from countries where
English is spoken well (Canadians of course, Ireland, the Dutch, all the
Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India and Pakistan, Malaysia, ...).
But a quick scan through this group just now, though hardly rigorous,
showed me only US posters and lots of US-specific topics (Home Depot,
Craigs list ...)
Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
--
Henry Law Manchester, England
On May 20, 2:01 pm, Henry Law <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
I'm so glad you approve, you limey-fuck.
*group hug* Canada here standing on guard for thee and willing to
share all I know about sub-zero glueing techniques.
You eel-pie munching, warm beer slurping peeps are truly my favourite
crowd. Truly.
How can I be of service?
On May 21, 1:27 am, John B <[email protected]> wrote:
Oh well that's what you get when your the 51st state :)
>
Bite your tongue.
I have been to Oz and just bought a very expensive sander from Oz. I
wish I could live in Oz, but I don't have the 1/2 million I need to
prove that I don't 'need' to live in Oz.
You live on the finest island on this earth.
You have everything you need to live wonderful lives, except good
beer, nice looking women and you drive on the wrong frickin' side of
the road. Those traffic circles really messed with my head, dude.
DAMN, I had a good time there......
(you know I'm kidding ya about the wimmin there, right, mate?)
On May 21, 12:47 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 20, 2:01 pm, Henry Law <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> > with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
> I'm so glad you approve, you limey-fuck.
>
> *group hug* Canada here standing on guard for thee >and willing to
> share all I know about sub-zero glueing techniques.
>
> You eel-pie munching, warm beer slurping peeps are >truly my favourite
> crowd. Truly.
>
> How can I be of service?
Jeeezus....
I quoted the whole thing so I wouldn't be accused of taking something
out of context.
I am thinking you don't like Henry for some reason. His post seemed
pretty innocuous, and (unless talking about GHWB) seem pretty mellow.
How did he piss in your oaties?
No, I'm no trying to be snide, funny or obtuse, here. I am just
feeling like I missed something, just about the time the all the air
left the room.
(as he backs carefully away from his monitor hoping not to get bitch
slapped...)
Robert
On May 21, 2:28 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On May 21, 12:47 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 20, 2:01 pm, Henry Law <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> > > with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
> > I'm so glad you approve, you limey-fuck.
>
> > *group hug* Canada here standing on guard for thee >and willing to
> > share all I know about sub-zero glueing techniques.
>
> > You eel-pie munching, warm beer slurping peeps are >truly my favourite
> > crowd. Truly.
>
> > How can I be of service?
>
> Jeeezus....
>
> I quoted the whole thing so I wouldn't be accused of taking something
> out of context.
>
> I am thinking you don't like Henry for some reason. His post seemed
> pretty innocuous, and (unless talking about GHWB) seem pretty mellow.
>
Ya kidding me? I thought his post was a welcome, refreshing
introduction.
Try taking what I said at face-value. It's similar to grabbing a bar-
stool and inviting Henry to sit his ass down and have a pint.
> How did he piss in your oaties?
Noooo, man, where did this shit come from? Are things so depressing
down there that nobody 'gets' a warm welcome? (okay, maybe a bit edgy,
but holy cow...touchy, touchy.)
>
> No, I'm no trying to be snide, funny or obtuse, here. I am just
> feeling like I missed something, just about the time the all the air
> left the room.
Yup.. you missed something. You did before. I'm not evil. I am what
you see.
Now sit down and pour yourself a single malt, you dick! (That's the
affectionate 'dick')
>
> (as he backs carefully away from his monitor hoping not to get bitch
> slapped...)
What's happening to you guys down there, Robert? I mean, really? Are
you trying to tell me that you would take exception to my saying:
"Dude!!", "lemme pour a fine scotch down that ugly face of yours!"
>
Something gets lost in this medium.
When I said to a waitress the other day; "You must have some special
harness to keep those boobies in line.".. I got a giggle...not a
fucking lawsuit.
It's me! Rob!....keep your shirt on, already.
On May 21, 8:37=EF=BF=BDam, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
> =A0> So steeped in history. What a wonderful place. Warm beer...hey..Lucas
> =A0> fridges, right?
>
> Lucas as in "The Prince Of Darkness"?
>
> Lew
That's the great thing about this NG. With the exception of tool/
lumber outlets and some brand names, every other aspect of woodworking
is the same and the language is truly international. I'm a bit of an
odd resident, though. I'm a Yank from Boston but I've lived in the UK
for the last 27 years. And when I really want to beat myself up, I go
to the Amazon U.S. web site and look at all the wonderful CHEAP (with
current ROE, even CHEAPER!) tools and curse whoever invented customs
duties and shipping costs.
FoggyTown
On May 21, 6:17 am, FoggyTown <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 21, 8:37?am, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Robatoy wrote:
>
> > ?> So steeped in history. What a wonderful place. Warm beer...hey..Lucas
> > ?> fridges, right?
>
> > Lucas as in "The Prince Of Darkness"?
>
> > Lew
>
> That's the great thing about this NG. With the exception of tool/
> lumber outlets and some brand names, every other aspect of woodworking
> is the same and the language is truly international. I'm a bit of an
> odd resident, though. I'm a Yank from Boston but I've lived in the UK
> for the last 27 years. And when I really want to beat myself up, I go
> to the Amazon U.S. web site and look at all the wonderful CHEAP (with
> current ROE, even CHEAPER!) tools and curse whoever invented customs
> duties and shipping costs.
>
> FoggyTown
It is sad but true that the US has a lot more people who can/do crafts
of all sorts. For example: When we moved to Germany in 77 I brought
along all my stained glass stuff thinking I could buy my precious hand-
blown 'antique' style glass at the source- and cheaper than I had in
California. I was turned away at the door and informed that only
serious- guild related people could buy glass there. I had to make a
trip to the States, and buy more glass, and haul it back to Germany!
Just one more story: so far I've sold over 200 books, and sales in
Canada and Australia have been a good part of that- but just one sale
to Ireland- none in the rest of Europe. Best I can figure there just
aren't very many woodworkers there- at least not those interested in
small projects. One exception is for carvers- lots of wonderful
carvers in England. Donna Menke
On May 21, 3:37 am, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
> > So steeped in history. What a wonderful place. Warm beer...hey..Lucas
> > fridges, right?
>
> Lucas as in "The Prince Of Darkness"?
>
> Lew
LOL.
I could never figure out why British cars from the 50'and 60's
wouldn't start when it rained....coming FROM a country where it almost
always rains. (Last year, summer was on a Tuesday?)
One day, as four Merlin engines (on a Lancaster) gurgled to a start, I
almost peed my shorts with glee. Those Brits can do some cool
engineering.
On May 21, 12:27=EF=BF=BDpm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 21, 3:37 am, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Robatoy wrote:
>
> > =A0> So steeped in history. What a wonderful place. Warm beer...hey..Lu=
cas
> > =A0> fridges, right?
>
> > Lucas as in "The Prince Of Darkness"?
>
> > Lew
>
> LOL.
> I could never figure out why British cars from the 50'and 60's
> wouldn't start when it rained....coming FROM a country where it almost
> always rains. (Last year, summer was on a Tuesday?)
> One day, as four Merlin engines (on a Lancaster) gurgled to a start, I
> almost peed my shorts with glee. Those Brits can do some cool
> engineering.
Now that brings back long ago memories. During college, a friend had
an MG---TD if memory serves. I helped him change the clutch one day,
so he loaned me the car for the next weekend. I drove down to see my
mother and my girlfriend, not in that order. It was an adventure. Only
about 125 miles, from Albany, NY south, but it rained at a moderate
pace the entire trip. The wiper motor--single motor--quit after 30
minutes or so, and the top leaked around the edges, the front and the
seams.
It was also made for shorter guys--my buddy was about 5' 9" and I am,
or was then, 6'2".
Swiping the water off the inside of the windshield with one hand,
while swinging the wiper blade through part of its arc with the other,
after disconnecting the motor and Rube Goldberging a bit, I
occasionally managed to steer and was almighty glad the roads were
nearly empty.
Other Brit vehicle adventures, all sponsored by Lucas, included the
lightless Norton Manx...it was a delight, and the light worked
beautifully, until you leaned it into a tight, blind curve. Or the
Jag...ah well. It was fun, even the screwball Austin-Healey.
On May 21, 7:12 pm, Peter Huebner <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Morris Minor we had
> for a while was no better. I've avoided Lucas by driving continental cars since
IIRC, there was a rash of positve ground 6-volt Minors as well.
The firm, where my dad was an accountant, bought a VandenPlas 'R' as
their limo for their high-end clients. I was always excited when my
dad got to take it on a family trips. We got quite the treatment
whenever we pulled in for a fill-up.
I thought he was going to have a coronary one time when my sister and
I were in the back-seat munching on candy.
I also recall it being replaced with a Citroen because the damned
thing was always having electrical problems. Windows, wipers.. that
sort of stuff.
On May 21, 10:04 pm, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since you are in the UK, what is the skinny on the Cutty Sark?
>
> Lew
I almost got sick to my stomach when this showed up in my mailbox:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/6675381.stm
On May 21, 1:51 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yup.. you missed something. You did before. I'm not >evil. I am what you see. Now sit down and pour yourself >a single malt, you dick! (That's the affectionate 'dick')
Be fair, now. I did mention the fact that I thought I might have
missed something. Gave ya the benefit of a doubt right off the bat.
> What's happening to you guys down there, Robert? I >mean, really? Are you trying to tell me that you would >take exception to my saying: "Dude!!", "lemme pour a >fine scotch down that ugly face of yours!"
Well, down here we have the most hypocritical swamp of shit you can
imagine that passes for freedom of speech. Think Don Imus, that lost
his career. Think the two major market DJs that just got fired for
their prank call to a Chinese restaurant order "slimp flied lice"
while on the air.
Think of the Cinncinatti orchestra firing Wopat and Schneider from
opening the new orchestral season as they have for the last ten
years. Why? Because about 25 years ago they drove a car in a TV show
(the General Lee) that had a Confederate flag on it. The NAACP
advised against it this year as being insensitive.
People of color or the correct sex have carte blanche, and can pretty
much say or do what they want. To paraphrase Carlos Mencia: "Hey,
you white folks think you have freedom of speech? Do you really?
Then try this: got to work and tell my jokes to your coworkers and see
how long you have a job".
Back in the 90s, I was forced to go to sensitivity training seminar.
What did I get from it? Just this: White males are just wrong.
I have attended several business seminars that teach how to manage and
train employees. We spent as much time on learning how not to offend
them as we did anything else. We learned how you inflict pain akin to
a beating by making insensitive remarks. We REALLY learned how
remarks can be taken out of context and used for benefit later.
> Something gets lost in this medium.
> When I said to a waitress the other day; "You must have some special
> harness to keep those boobies in line.".. I got a >giggle...not a fucking lawsuit.
And again, here we have Hooters being sued for allowing "comments" to
be made about the appearance of the waitresses either to them or
within earshot.
I am simply not used to seeing that kind of language in print. And I
might say that if you will take a look at this thread no one from the
US jumped in with you...
we are hammered to pieces down here about making comments about other
nations, their people, their creeds, thier religion, anyone's sexual
preferences, etc. You get the idea.
Having been to court more than a couple of times, I would be afraid
that anything I ever wrote could be used against me if it were found.
So sir, to me you are a bold rogue.
I don't speak freely in public anymore, and don't goof around with
anyone that does. When I am with my friends, we can all speak freely,
but when anyone we don't know walks up, we frequently change the
subject. When we are in a dim lit bar soaking up whiskey and T honk
music, that's another subject. All manner of things are expressed
with colorful similes and metaphors.
Maternal parentage is questioned, the qualtiy of national origin is
doubted, sexual proclivities are questioned, and other questions too
dangerous to debate in public are entertained. We often address each
other as male and female genetalia to needle and tease. (In fact, one
of my buddies is known there by his nickname "the flashlight" due to
his member's uncanny resemblance to a D cell Maglite).
In the bar, it is 1975 again. But what is said in the bar stays
there.
As one of the advisors for he Texas Workforce Commission told me, "You
need to be really careful, Robert. As a single man, a white male that
owns the whole business, you might as well have a target on your back
for unethical employees". Believe me, everything you ever said or
wrote becomes an issue at an unemployment eligibility hearing.
> It's me! Rob!....keep your shirt on, already.
I know, I know. I forget you are from a foreign land. Well, at least
foreign to me. I hope you never thought I was accusing you of
anything... I wasn't.
And it is hard to think of a solid surface guy that buys $1500 sanders
as evil. Especially one that hides an inner child of the peace and
love generation. Don't deny it! You spilled the beans when revealing
your musical tastes.
I have recognized waaay too many over the past several months for you
to make case otherwise (at least to me).
And hey.. I was wrong again. Not exactly earth shattering news. But
I hope you can get a feel for what I thought I MIGHT be looking at.
We return you now to the normal programming after the end of this
boring diatribe.
Robert
On 22 May, 03:04, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since you are in the UK, what is the skinny on the Cutty Sark?
Bad restoration and preservation efforts in the '50s caused immense
ongoing damage to the frames. Infighting for decades did nothing to
solve this until the whole hull was no longer structurally safe. Then
the masts were removed and replaced with lampposts. A week ago, Cutty
Sark had already become a farcical Disneyfication with increasingly
little even worth preserving. It was a faked-up box with some
interesting exhibits in
The best thing that could happen would tbe to scrap the Cutty Sark and
spend the money on other equally or more deserving maritime history
projects. It's not even a unique iron-framed tea clipper in the UK -
The City of Adelaide / Carrick has been rotting away in Scotland for
years now, in need of a budget that's less than half the Cutty Sark
already had before the fire. Now the push is to demolish and scrap the
thing completely.
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6676245.stm>
Of course re-directing a budget outside London isn't going to happen.
The Cutty Sark will probably be rebuilt into an even less original
boat-shaped box (avoiding that nasty wood as it's an obvious fire
hazard) and will be used to milk ignorant tourists in a progressively
more trivial "experience". The budget will be inflated, and it will
still over-run by some obscene margin. Even if it were ditched and the
allocated money freed up for some other maritime history project, the
Olympian greed of 2012 would just steal it, as they've already done to
the lottery funding.
The Birkenhead naval museum closed last year. After being the only
thing that kept Birkenhead docks from being an abandoned ghost town
for some years, yuppification and the need for a car park to serve
flat conversions in the warehouse buildings drove the museum from the
site. This also includes one of the very few WW2 U-boat survivors, the
only large Type IX oceanic U-boat. Yet this is up in the North, so it
doesn't matter.
HMS Warrior (a ship individually more significant than Cutty Sark,
from a period that's just as significant) was rebuilt in Hartlepool, a
city that desperately needs some good news and a tourist attraction.
She was then whipped away down to the already-affluent South coast by
an act of sheer piracy.
HMS Caroline (the last survivor of Jutland) is ignored in Belfast
harbour and hardly anyone knows she's even there.
<http://codesmiths.com/dingbat/lj/20061101_ireland/>
Nearby is the Nomadic, last (albeit smaller) survivor of the Titanic
fleet. She was rescued by local efforts, not by London's vast budgets.
The problem with the Cutty Sark is that it's in London. London can
piss money away on any rubbish (the Mandeldome, the Olympics, Wembley,
Cutty Sark) and no-one expects it to work, or to be held to account
for vast budget over-runs and dismal failure of results. Yet outside
the M25, valuable projects achieving good results and popular
attractions can't even afford their shoestring budgets.
Here in Bristol we've just lost the recently-built Wildwalk owing to a
lack of secure long-term funding for it. Also the immensely popular
Industrial Museum was forced to close against everyone's wishes,
because the council wish to redevelop the site into a worthless
"Bristol theme attraction" (a crappy "interactive" website in a
building, with no real exhibits), then hope that this fails and frees
the site up for another profitable apartment development. You could
finance both of these from the budget the Olympics spends on junkmail.
On 22 May, 03:04, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since you are in the UK, what is the skinny on the Cutty Sark?
Bad restoration and preservation efforts in the '50s caused immense
ongoing damage to the frames. Infighting for decades did nothing to
solve this until the whole hull was no longer structurally safe. Then
the masts were removed and replaced with lampposts. A week ago, Cutty
Sark had already become a farcical Disneyfication with increasingly
little even worth preserving. It was a faked-up box with some
interesting exhibits in
The best thing that could happen would tbe to scrap the Cutty Sark and
spend the money on other equally or more deserving maritime history
projects. It's not even a unique iron-framed tea clipper in the UK -
The City of Adelaide / Carrick has been rotting away in Scotland for
years now, in need of a budget that's less than half the Cutty Sark
already had before the fire. Now the push is to demolish and scrap the
thing completely.
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6676245.stm>
Of course re-directing a budget outside London isn't going to happen.
The Cutty Sark will probably be rebuilt into an even less original
boat-shaped box (avoiding that nasty wood as it's an obvious fire
hazard) and will be used to milk ignorant tourists in a progressively
more trivial "experience". The budget will be inflated, and it will
still over-run by some obscene margin. Even if it were ditched and the
allocated money freed up for some other maritime history project, the
Olympian greed of 2012 would just steal it, as they've already done to
the lottery funding.
The Birkenhead naval museum closed last year. After being the only
thing that kept Birkenhead docks from being an abandoned ghost town
for some years, yuppification and the need for a car park to serve
flat conversions in the warehouse buildings drove the museum from the
site. This also includes one of the very few WW2 U-boat survivors, the
only large Type IX oceanic U-boat. Yet this is up in the North, so it
doesn't matter.
HMS Warrior (a ship individually more significant than Cutty Sark,
from a period that's just as significant) was rebuilt in Hartlepool, a
city that desperately needs some good news and a tourist attraction.
She was then whipped away down to the already-affluent South coast by
an act of sheer piracy.
HMS Caroline (the last survivor of Jutland) is ignored in Belfast
harbour and hardly anyone knows she's even there.
<http://codesmiths.com/dingbat/lj/20061101_ireland/>
Nearby is the Nomadic, last (albeit smaller) survivor of the Titanic
fleet. She was rescued by local efforts, not by London's vast budgets.
The problem with the Cutty Sark is that it's in London. London can
piss money away on any rubbish (the Mandeldome, the Olympics, Wembley,
Cutty Sark) and no-one expects it to work, or to be held to account
for vast budget over-runs and dismal failure of results. Yet outside
the M25, valuable projects achieving good results and popular
attractions can't even afford their shoestring budgets.
Here in Bristol we've just lost the recently-built Wildwalk owing to a
lack of secure long-term funding for it. Also the immensely popular
Industrial Museum was forced to close against everyone's wishes,
because the council wish to redevelop the site into a worthless
"Bristol theme attraction" (a crappy "interactive" website in a
building, with no real exhibits), then hope that this fails and frees
the site up for another profitable apartment development. You could
finance both of these from the budget the Olympics spends on junkmail.
On 23 May, 05:12, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Be better to tow her out to sea and sink her.
She'd need to float for that.
> > Here in Bristol we've just lost the recently-built Wildwalk owing to a
>
> Is that pub in a cave still open? The one supposedly there since 900.
The Ostrich? More of a cave in a pub, but it's still there and they
still have the skeleton of the pirate / slave chained up in the back
of it.
It's not the oldest pub in Bristol though. We have three contenders
for that, all from the 1600s, but no-one can agree which.
Andy Dingley wrote:
> projects. It's not even a unique iron-framed tea clipper in the UK -
> The City of Adelaide / Carrick has been rotting away in Scotland for
> years now
> only large Type IX oceanic U-boat. Yet this is up in the North, so it
> doesn't matter.
Andy, you were somewhat rude to me on a previous thread, and I was
somewhat rude back. Now I begin to see that we have much in common ...
--
Henry Law Manchester, England
On 25 May, 08:52, Henry Law <[email protected]> wrote:
> Andy, you were somewhat rude to me on a previous thread,
Actually I was _blunt_ to you, rather than rude, and I'm genuinely
sorry that you saw it as personal rudeness (you big soft Northern
jessie!).
If you want a jigsaw to work, you have to spend money on it. That's
just jigsaws for you.
On May 25, 9:42 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Andy Dingley" wrote in message
>
> > If you want a jigsaw to work, you have to spend money on it. That's
> > just jigsaws for you.
>
> Kinda like women??
Not even close.
Eventually, after 'enough' money, a jigsaw will work.
On May 25, 8:48 am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Kinda like women??
>
> Not even close.
> Eventually, after 'enough' money, a jigsaw will work.
Shoots.... Whooosh!.... Scores!
Nothing but net.
Robert
on 5/21/2007 1:52 AM Morris Dovey said the following:
> John B wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> | It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
> | such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is
> | mentioned the flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when
> | your the 51st state :)
>
> John...
>
> I hadn't thought about that. Would it help if the subject of articles
> dealing with tool/wood sources carried a US-vendor/CA-vendor/etc tag?
>
> This might facilitate filtering out stuff of little or no interest to
> people in other regions...
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
>
>
>
I am/was a woodworker, but haven't done anything serious in years, but
as a lurker, I still like to read about others' experiences.
I, like you, give my location in my sig line. If others did the same in
worldwide newsgroups, at least we/you would know where we're/you're
coming from.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
On Mon, 21 May 2007 11:20:58 GMT, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
wrote:
>John B wrote:
>>
>> It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co such
>> as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is mentioned the
>> flood gates open.
>
>What's Bunnings?
The nearest thing to HD
>I plan to visit Oz and New Zealand one day, but I know there's far too
>many beautiful things to see to be shopping for tools. <G>
There's always time for tools
Barry
Henry Law wrote:
| It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of
| people from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost
| as many from the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from
| countries where English is spoken well (Canadians of course,
| Ireland, the Dutch, all the Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India
| and Pakistan, Malaysia, ...). But a quick scan through this group
| just now, though hardly rigorous, showed me only US posters and
| lots of US-specific topics (Home Depot, Craigs list ...)
|
| Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's
| fine with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
As of 04:04 this morning, these are the recorded May hits by
domain/country at my web site. I think most of the search engine hits
fall into either the "Network" or "US Commercial" catagories. Nearly
all of my site activity is the result of posting articles here and to
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.
There have been 106401 total hits so far in May - from 67 countries.
Here are the "Top 30":
1 41364 38.88% Network
2 27573 25.91% US Commercial
3 14367 13.50% Unresolved/Unknown
4 3051 2.87% Canada
5 2865 2.69% India
6 1920 1.80% Australia
7 1551 1.46% Italy
8 1233 1.16% Hungary
9 1110 1.04% US Educational
10 1107 1.04% United Kingdom
11 1047 0.98% New Zealand (Aotearoa)
12 969 0.91% US Military
13 780 0.73% Greece
14 705 0.66% Non-Profit Organization
15 459 0.43% France
16 414 0.39% Thailand
17 402 0.38% Belgium
18 399 0.37% Brazil
19 399 0.37% Mexico
20 396 0.37% Poland
21 324 0.30% Netherlands
22 318 0.30% United States
23 300 0.28% Sweden
24 282 0.27% Czech Republic
25 279 0.26% Switzerland
26 267 0.25% Finland
27 264 0.25% Germany
28 252 0.24% US Government
29 219 0.21% Turkey
30 192 0.18% Japan
Methinks there are a _lot_ more lurkers than posters. I wish more of
the lurkers would join in our discussions...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Henry Law wrote:
> It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of people
> from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost as many
> from the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from countries where
> English is spoken well (Canadians of course, Ireland, the Dutch, all the
> Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India and Pakistan, Malaysia, ...).
> But a quick scan through this group just now, though hardly rigorous,
> showed me only US posters and lots of US-specific topics (Home Depot,
> Craigs list ...)
>
> Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
Although many of the posters and topics on "the wreck" are from the US
of A and Canada, posters from all over the world are more than welcome.
David Starr
John B wrote:
<snip>
| It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
| such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is
| mentioned the flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when
| your the 51st state :)
John...
I hadn't thought about that. Would it help if the subject of articles
dealing with tool/wood sources carried a US-vendor/CA-vendor/etc tag?
This might facilitate filtering out stuff of little or no interest to
people in other regions...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
"B A R R Y" wrote in message
> I plan to visit Oz and New Zealand one day, but I know there's far too
> many beautiful things to see to be shopping for tools. <G>
Live/traveled throughout in Oz in my younger days when Yanks were a rarity
... found the beer good and the women truly friendly. :)
I'm basically color blind and the only time I've ever seen green was the
North island of New Zealand (BTW, those little white specks on the sides of
the mountains were sheep). A truly beautiful country, from North to South
... and the women were truly friendly.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/20/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)
Charlie Self <[email protected]> writes:
> It was also made for shorter guys--my buddy was about 5' 9" and I am,
> or was then, 6'2".
Lemme guess. The rain caused you to shrink...
On Mon, 21 May 2007 12:28:01 GMT, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
wrote:
>John B wrote:
>>
>> As for the Beer, it must be an acquired taste, as don't find the Yankee
>> stuff much good, but it sure is a lot better than the Pommy liquid with
>> a beer label on it.
>
>If you visit, ask us about "microbrew" before you head up. It may
>change your opinion of American beer!
Yes there is a Winery near here "Charleville Vineyard Brewery" they
brew a nice assortment. Bit expensive though but mighty tasty.
Mark
"Henry Law" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of people
> from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost as many from
> the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from countries where English is
> spoken well (Canadians of course, Ireland, the Dutch, all the
> Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India and Pakistan, Malaysia, ...). But
> a quick scan through this group just now, though hardly rigorous, showed
> me only US posters and lots of US-specific topics (Home Depot, Craigs list
> ...)
>
> Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
> --
>
> Henry Law Manchester, England
I think it includes all of Europe and Australia as well. The majority of
posters are North Americans, but speaking for myself, all who make sawdust
and shavings (or want to) are certainly welcome.
One of our favorite sources of quality tools is Lee Valley and they are a
Canadian company. It seems that Hitachi used to be Italian ( I may be wrong
about that though).
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> At least one from Nelson, New Zealand
>
> Larry
There you go Henry, that makes 3 Kiwis so far. And I am positive I have seen a
number of messages originating in Oz, and spotted several Pommy posters.
A sprinkling of Continental entries also. There are bound to be more lurkers
out there ....
</waves to Barry and Larry>
-P.
--
=========================================
firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> No, I'm no trying to be snide, funny or obtuse, here. I am just
> feeling like I missed something, just about the time the all the air
> left the room.
>
> (as he backs carefully away from his monitor hoping not to get bitch
> slapped...)
>
> Robert
>
Rotfl, yeah, you missed something. It's a kind of humour that 'Merkans just
don't seem to get to see, much. That's why Hollywood does so much business
remaking foreign films.
I was grinning all over when I read that post. Not to worry ... me, I don't get
Carlin and Carrey and all that lot. (But I do get Jeff Foxworthy! We have
rednecks here, too!)
-P.
--
=========================================
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Other Brit vehicle adventures, all sponsored by Lucas, included the
> lightless Norton Manx...it was a delight, and the light worked
> beautifully, until you leaned it into a tight, blind curve. Or the
> Jag...ah well. It was fun, even the screwball Austin-Healey.
>
Oh Gods, Lucas. I rewired my Landrover once upon a time, I could not believe
what I found that passed for a 'loom'. Pile of melted slag, more like. Little
wonder none of the fuses seemed to do anything useful. The Morris Minor we had
for a while was no better. I've avoided Lucas by driving continental cars since
;-)
-P.
--
=========================================
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message
> John B wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> | It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
> | such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is
> | mentioned the flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when
> | your the 51st state :)
>
> John...
>
> I hadn't thought about that. Would it help if the subject of articles
> dealing with tool/wood sources carried a US-vendor/CA-vendor/etc tag?
>
> This might facilitate filtering out stuff of little or no interest to
> people in other regions...
>
It has been my experience that we all lust for things on the other side of
the fence.
In article <[email protected]>,
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
> <expurgated>
>
> Wow!
LOL.. One year, I took the train to Dover (from London) to take the
ferry from there to Belgium. Turns out, we missed one and 'had' to stay
in Dover for the night. We closed the pub called Golden Arrow and were
adopted by a few locals who got the biggest kick out my asking the
question: Where is Vera Lynn's statue? We're in touch today, and I have
tried on several occasions to make it past Jolly Ol'..on my way to my
home-country, but I seem to get stuck in the UK every time I try to get
through it.
So steeped in history. What a wonderful place. Warm beer...hey..Lucas
fridges, right?
In article <[email protected]>,
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Morris Dovey" wrote in message
>
> > John B wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > | It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
> > | such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is
> > | mentioned the flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when
> > | your the 51st state :)
> >
> > John...
> >
> > I hadn't thought about that. Would it help if the subject of articles
> > dealing with tool/wood sources carried a US-vendor/CA-vendor/etc tag?
> >
> > This might facilitate filtering out stuff of little or no interest to
> > people in other regions...
> >
> It has been my experience that we all lust for things on the other side of
> the fence.
You mean that topless 20-year-old cutting the grass on the other side of
the street?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
David Starr wrote:
> Henry Law wrote:
>
>> It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of people
>> from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost as many
>> from the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from countries where
>> English is spoken well (Canadians of course, Ireland, the Dutch, all
>> the Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India and Pakistan, Malaysia,
>> ...). But a quick scan through this group just now, though hardly
>> rigorous, showed me only US posters and lots of US-specific topics
>> (Home Depot, Craigs list ...)
>>
>> Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's
>> fine with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>>
> Although many of the posters and topics on "the wreck" are from the US
> of A and Canada, posters from all over the world are more than welcome.
>
> David Starr
Henry Law wrote:
> It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of people
> from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost as many
> from the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from countries where
> English is spoken well (Canadians of course, Ireland, the Dutch, all the
> Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India and Pakistan, Malaysia, ...).
> But a quick scan through this group just now, though hardly rigorous,
> showed me only US posters and lots of US-specific topics (Home Depot,
> Craigs list ...)
>
> Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
Lots are but there a couple of blokes from Oz, me being one.
I've learnt some interesting things in this group over the years and
hopefully been able to help a few people on the way.
It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co such
as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is mentioned the
flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when your the 51st state :)
Just have fun
regards
John
Morris Dovey wrote:
> John B wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> | It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
> | such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is
> | mentioned the flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when
> | your the 51st state :)
>
> John...
>
> I hadn't thought about that. Would it help if the subject of articles
> dealing with tool/wood sources carried a US-vendor/CA-vendor/etc tag?
>
> This might facilitate filtering out stuff of little or no interest to
> people in other regions...
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
>
>
G'day Morris,
Na, not really. I wasn't bitching about the US content, it's rather
amusing some times seeing the big retailers getting a serve :)
It was the other way around, just wishing there was a bit more Oz
content, but as the say "Wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and see
which fills first". ;)
all the best
John
Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Morris Dovey" wrote in message
>
>
>>John B wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>| It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
>>| such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is
>>| mentioned the flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when
>>| your the 51st state :)
>>
>>John...
>>
>>I hadn't thought about that. Would it help if the subject of articles
>>dealing with tool/wood sources carried a US-vendor/CA-vendor/etc tag?
>>
>>This might facilitate filtering out stuff of little or no interest to
>>people in other regions...
>>
>
> It has been my experience that we all lust for things on the other side of
> the fence.
>
>
>
G'day Lee,
Very rarely do want what's on the other side of the fence. The devil you
know is better than the devil you don't. ;)
regards
John
Robatoy wrote:
> On May 21, 1:27 am, John B <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh well that's what you get when your the 51st state :)
>
> Bite your tongue.
> I have been to Oz and just bought a very expensive sander from Oz. I
> wish I could live in Oz, but I don't have the 1/2 million I need to
> prove that I don't 'need' to live in Oz.
> You live on the finest island on this earth.
> You have everything you need to live wonderful lives, except good
> beer, nice looking women and you drive on the wrong frickin' side of
> the road. Those traffic circles really messed with my head, dude.
>
>
> DAMN, I had a good time there......
>
> (you know I'm kidding ya about the wimmin there, right, mate?)
>
Yep, There are some lookers here.
As for the Beer, it must be an acquired taste, as don't find the Yankee
stuff much good, but it sure is a lot better than the Pommy liquid with
a beer label on it.
Sheesh, if you don't like "Round-a-bouts", don't visit Kalgoorlie, I get
dizzie just nicking down the street ;)
all the best
John
B A R R Y wrote:
> John B wrote:
>
>>
>> It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
>> such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is mentioned
>> the flood gates open.
>
>
> What's Bunnings?
>
> I plan to visit Oz and New Zealand one day, but I know there's far too
> many beautiful things to see to be shopping for tools. <G>
Bunnings is a joke !!!
It's a "Hardware Ware House" with nothing in it :) Probably similar to
your Big Box stores. That's if your American.
Regards
John
B A R R Y wrote:
> John B wrote:
>
>>
>> It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
>> such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is mentioned
>> the flood gates open.
>
>
> What's Bunnings?
>
> I plan to visit Oz and New Zealand one day, but I know there's far too
> many beautiful things to see to be shopping for tools. <G>
Barry,
Don't bother with them 2 hills the other side of the ditch, then again
it'd be quiet as all the locals now live in OZ ;)
"Except for the Sheep"
regards
John
Peter Huebner wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>>No, I'm no trying to be snide, funny or obtuse, here. I am just
>>feeling like I missed something, just about the time the all the air
>>left the room.
>>
>>(as he backs carefully away from his monitor hoping not to get bitch
>>slapped...)
>>
>>Robert
>>
>
>
> Rotfl, yeah, you missed something. It's a kind of humour that 'Merkans just
> don't seem to get to see, much. That's why Hollywood does so much business
> remaking foreign films.
>
> I was grinning all over when I read that post. Not to worry ... me, I don't get
> Carlin and Carrey and all that lot. (But I do get Jeff Foxworthy! We have
> rednecks here, too!)
>
> -P.
>
Love the Blue Collar Comedy Tours, End up with bloody sore guts every
time I watch them.
John
in 1360010 20070521 121735 FoggyTown <[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 21, 8:37=EF=BF=BDam, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> =A0> So steeped in history. What a wonderful place. Warm beer...hey..Lucas
>> =A0> fridges, right?
>>
>> Lucas as in "The Prince Of Darkness"?
>>
>> Lew
>
>That's the great thing about this NG. With the exception of tool/
>lumber outlets and some brand names, every other aspect of woodworking
>is the same and the language is truly international. I'm a bit of an
>odd resident, though. I'm a Yank from Boston but I've lived in the UK
>for the last 27 years. And when I really want to beat myself up, I go
>to the Amazon U.S. web site and look at all the wonderful CHEAP (with
>current ROE, even CHEAPER!) tools and curse whoever invented customs
>duties and shipping costs.
>
>FoggyTown
It's only money - look what you get instead. ;-)
"John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> | It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co
>> | such as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is
>> | mentioned the flood gates open. Oh well that's what you get when
>> | your the 51st state :)
>>
>> John...
>>
>> I hadn't thought about that. Would it help if the subject of articles
>> dealing with tool/wood sources carried a US-vendor/CA-vendor/etc tag?
>>
>> This might facilitate filtering out stuff of little or no interest to
>> people in other regions...
>>
>> --
>> Morris Dovey
>>
> G'day Morris,
> Na, not really. I wasn't bitching about the US content, it's rather
> amusing some times seeing the big retailers getting a serve :)
> It was the other way around, just wishing there was a bit more Oz content,
> but as the say "Wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and see which fills
> first". ;)
> all the best
> John
There are other places to narrow yourself to your particular region.
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/index.php?s= is a pretty good one.
One nice thing about the US folks is we're used to - dare I say - kowtowing
to minority interests. "For Spanish, press two." Al and Jesse are working
on "for Ebonics press three...."
On Sun, 20 May 2007 19:01:59 +0100, Henry Law <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
>with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
No.
I've gotten replies from folks all over, including a gent in Iceland.
Henry:
AFAIK; this newsgroup is dominated by posters from North America,
although, I suspect many more read this NG
There are several forums, which are moderated, that have many more EU
members. I recommend:
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/index.php
It seems that in the UK, there are lots more problems with finding wood
suppliers than most North American's have any concept of. I, as someone
who lives in North America, finds the price you pay in the UK for raw wood
products / lumber is just unbelievably too high. Doesn't your lumber have
to
have some sort of certification that the source of the lumber is from a re-
newable forest or some such?
Phil
"Henry Law" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of people
> from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost as many from
> the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from countries where English is
> spoken well (Canadians of course, Ireland, the Dutch, all the
> Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India and Pakistan, Malaysia, ...). But
> a quick scan through this group just now, though hardly rigorous, showed
> me only US posters and lots of US-specific topics (Home Depot, Craigs list
> ...)
>
> Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
> --
>
> Henry Law Manchester, England
Dam, I thought this was a Japanese group all along.....mjh
"Henry Law" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's interesting; most of the groups I follow have a mixture of people
> from all over the world; lots of US people of course, almost as many from
> the UK, and a sprinkling of others, mostly from countries where English is
> spoken well (Canadians of course, Ireland, the Dutch, all the
> Scandinavians, the Finns, most of India and Pakistan, Malaysia, ...). But
> a quick scan through this group just now, though hardly rigorous, showed
> me only US posters and lots of US-specific topics (Home Depot, Craigs list
> ...)
>
> Before you start to hit the keyboard harder read this, though: it's fine
> with me if the answer is "yes": it's just odd, that's all.
>
> --
>
> Henry Law Manchester, England
On Sun, 20 May 2007 19:01:59 +0100, Henry Law <[email protected]>
wrote:
Not 100%
Barry, Christchurch, New Zealand.
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 22 May, 03:04, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Since you are in the UK, what is the skinny on the Cutty Sark?
>
> Bad restoration and preservation efforts in the '50s caused immense
> ongoing damage to the frames. Infighting for decades did nothing to
> solve this until the whole hull was no longer structurally safe. Then
> the masts were removed and replaced with lampposts.
LAMPOSTS!? Good Grief!! The restoration efforts of the 50s may have been bad, but I
had an enjoyable few trips to see her during the early 60s. I have a very strong
memory of wandering 'tween decks hunched over to protect my noggin - and I'm 5'6".
But Lamposts?! What a desecration. Be better to tow her out to sea and sink her.
snips
> Here in Bristol we've just lost the recently-built Wildwalk owing to a
Is that pub in a cave still open? The one supposedly there since 900.
John B wrote:
>
> It does get a little frustrating tho, when you mention an Aussie Co such
> as Bunnings and get no response and when Home depot is mentioned the
> flood gates open.
What's Bunnings?
I plan to visit Oz and New Zealand one day, but I know there's far too
many beautiful things to see to be shopping for tools. <G>
Andy Dingley wrote:
<snip>
> A week ago, Cutty
> Sark had already become a farcical Disneyfication with increasingly
> little even worth preserving. It was a faked-up box with some
> interesting exhibits in
<snip a commentary on local restoration politics>
Frustrating as hell to see public funds wasted and in the process and
antiques destroyed.
Appreciate the info.
Lew