I'm interested in making a three panel, free standing decorative
screen with each panel being approx. 18" x 72" connected with
specialty double action hinges that I purchased from Lee Valley. I'm
thinking about using hardwood ply with strips of solid wood around the
edges. I'm concerned about the weight of being able to easily move the
screen if I use 3/4" ply, but on the other hand I'm concerned that if
I use 1/2" that it will be too flimsy. I've thought about using 3/4"
stock for a frame on each panel with a 1/4" ply panel floating in the
frame but I'd prefer a solid looking panel. What do you all think, can
I get away with 1/2"?
Dale
Sun, Nov 9, 2003, 8:25pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Dale)
says:
<snip> I've thought about using 3/4" stock for a frame on each panel
with a 1/4" ply panel floating in the frame but I'd prefer a solid
looking panel. <snip>
OK, I'm confused. If it's 1/4", in a frame, how would it not look
solid, when you can't tell how thick it is?
And, sure. you can use 1/2" if you want, it's your money, and your
project.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
On 9 Nov 2003 20:25:34 -0800, [email protected] (Dale) wrote:
>I'm interested in making a three panel, free standing decorative
>screen with each panel being approx. 18" x 72" connected with
>specialty double action hinges that I purchased from Lee Valley. I'm
>thinking about using hardwood ply with strips of solid wood around the
>edges. I'm concerned about the weight of being able to easily move the
>screen if I use 3/4" ply, but on the other hand I'm concerned that if
>I use 1/2" that it will be too flimsy. I've thought about using 3/4"
>stock for a frame on each panel with a 1/4" ply panel floating in the
>frame but I'd prefer a solid looking panel. What do you all think, can
>I get away with 1/2"?
>
You want solid and light weight.
1/8inch skins both sides over a frame will give you both.
T,T,T...HOW could it look "solid" when it's 1/4" thick??? Like the desk
I am building using 1" thick, 3" rails and stiles and 1/4" oak ply
panels. It doesn't look AT ALL as solid as 3/4" rails/stiles and a
raised panel 3/4" thick which then is FLUSH with the rails/stiles. (and
YOU call YOURSELF a wooddorker? tsk, tsk.)
I believe the OP used "solid" in the sense of "thickness" as opposed to
not having gaps or holes in the surface.
You are constantly confused; which doesn't suprise me much anymore. It
must be that old bugaboo, "reading comprehension" biting you in in the
butt again.
dave
dave
T. wrote:
> Sun, Nov 9, 2003, 8:25pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Dale)
> says:
> <snip> I've thought about using 3/4" stock for a frame on each panel
> with a 1/4" ply panel floating in the frame but I'd prefer a solid
> looking panel. <snip>
>
> OK, I'm confused. If it's 1/4", in a frame, how would it not look
> solid, when you can't tell how thick it is?
>
> And, sure. you can use 1/2" if you want, it's your money, and your
> project.
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 3:11pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
chimes in with his usual crap:
T,T,T...HOW could it look "solid" when it's 1/4" thick??? Like the desk
I am building using 1" thick, 3" rails and stiles and 1/4" oak ply
panels. It doesn't look AT ALL as solid as 3/4" rails/stiles and a
raised panel 3/4" thick which then is FLUSH with the rails/stiles. (and
YOU call YOURSELF a wooddorker? tsk, tsk.)
I believe the OP used "solid" in the sense of "thickness" as opposed to
not having gaps or holes in the surface.
You are constantly confused; which doesn't suprise me much anymore. It
must be that old bugaboo, "reading comprehension" biting you in in the
butt again.
BAM, BAM, BAM. YOU believe the OP used? Well Dave, since you
didn't get the question, and you aren't him, your response is just
gibberish (see below)..
By the way, don't try your miscreant crap. You'e never used it
right yet, so it won't be right with me either.
You used to remind me of the Three Stooges. They're stupid, but
funny. But, you've lost the funny. So, go stuck your head back up your
ass, and only answer posts you might really have an answer to.
Gibberish \Gib"ber*ish\, n. [From {Gibber}, v. i.] Rapid and
inarticulate talk; unintelligible language; unmeaning words; jargon.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
what the hell does, "YOU believe the OP used?" mean? sounds like
gibberish to me...
dave
T. wrote:
> Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 3:11pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> chimes in with his usual crap:
> T,T,T...HOW could it look "solid" when it's 1/4" thick??? Like the desk
> I am building using 1" thick, 3" rails and stiles and 1/4" oak ply
> panels. It doesn't look AT ALL as solid as 3/4" rails/stiles and a
> raised panel 3/4" thick which then is FLUSH with the rails/stiles. (and
> YOU call YOURSELF a wooddorker? tsk, tsk.)
> I believe the OP used "solid" in the sense of "thickness" as opposed to
> not having gaps or holes in the surface.
> You are constantly confused; which doesn't suprise me much anymore. It
> must be that old bugaboo, "reading comprehension" biting you in in the
> butt again.
>
> BAM, BAM, BAM. YOU believe the OP used? Well Dave, since you
> didn't get the question, and you aren't him, your response is just
> gibberish (see below)..
>
> By the way, don't try your miscreant crap. You'e never used it
> right yet, so it won't be right with me either.
>
> You used to remind me of the Three Stooges. They're stupid, but
> funny. But, you've lost the funny. So, go stuck your head back up your
> ass, and only answer posts you might really have an answer to.
> Gibberish \Gib"ber*ish\, n. [From {Gibber}, v. i.] Rapid and
> inarticulate talk; unintelligible language; unmeaning words; jargon.
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 7:25pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
apparently is confused again/still:
what the hell does, "YOU believe the OP used?" mean? sounds like
gibberish to me...
That's called a question. That's why there's a question mark (?)
at the end. A proper sentence, including a question, begins with a
capital letter on the first word. You didn't do that. And, if a
sentence is complete in itself, as you last one would seem to be, you
don't pust an elippsis at the end, you put a period.
I take it you will now be using the word gibberish frequently, in
future posts, now that you know what it means. You're welcome.
I see you didn't have any comment about the Three Stogges
comparison. Nice that you agree.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
I quit reading after the "YOU believe the OP used" so I missed the
Stooges thing...
Nah, I don't like the word gibberish near as much as miscreant (has NO
ONE ever watched Sledgehammer??) or moron. I don't like bothering with
caps, either. just be glad I punctuate at all; cut me some slack on
ellipses...
dave
T. wrote:
> Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 7:25pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> apparently is confused again/still:
> what the hell does, "YOU believe the OP used?" mean? sounds like
> gibberish to me...
>
> That's called a question. That's why there's a question mark (?)
> at the end. A proper sentence, including a question, begins with a
> capital letter on the first word. You didn't do that. And, if a
> sentence is complete in itself, as you last one would seem to be, you
> don't pust an elippsis at the end, you put a period.
>
> I take it you will now be using the word gibberish frequently, in
> future posts, now that you know what it means. You're welcome.
>
> I see you didn't have any comment about the Three Stogges
> comparison. Nice that you agree.
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
On 10 Nov 2003, Bay Area Dave hissy-fitted unto rec.woodworking:
> T,T,T...HOW could it look "solid" when it's 1/4" thick??? Like the desk
> I am building using 1" thick, 3" rails and stiles and 1/4" oak ply
> panels. It doesn't look AT ALL as solid as 3/4" rails/stiles and a
> raised panel 3/4" thick which then is FLUSH with the rails/stiles. (and
> YOU call YOURSELF a wooddorker? tsk, tsk.)
>
> I believe the OP used "solid" in the sense of "thickness" as opposed to
> not having gaps or holes in the surface.
>
> You are constantly confused; which doesn't suprise me much anymore. It
> must be that old bugaboo, "reading comprehension" biting you in in the
> butt again.
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hating ignorami*, feel free to laugh, but SWMBO's cats are a not-very-
distant second to -me- in importance in her life, and I've never seen her
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Add to this that we are both in our local community theater, and
Friday night she had to be on stage, and I had to play the piano, for a
Town Hall full of folks coming out to see the opening night of H.M.S.
PINAFORE. The stress level in the Cramer household was off the scale. The
show went well, although my one remaining nerve was carrying about 440
kilovolts of adrenaline-fueled energy.
An hour after the show, one of our lead players, and a good friend,
had a heart attack. One angioplasty and a stent later, he's doing well.
That helped put the cat situation in perspective, at least.
However, this left us with a bit of a problem, given that there were
four more performances of PINAFORE ahead, without anybody to play the
captain. I spent all day Saturday with an intrepid volunteer who stepped
forward to learn the part, and all the songs, in order to be able to put
the show on that night. Though no one was fooled by the "chartbook" he
carried at all times, the show went on Saturday night to wildly approving
audiences. Yesterday's matinee was even better.
So, it's Monday morning. I fire up the computer, read my email, and
check in with the Wreck. There are over 1300 posts. The usual
disproportionate number from the resident BADboy. A good many of the most
active threads about His BADness. The overwhelming majority of which
relate to how he comes up on the low end of the bell curve socially,
emotionally, and intellectually.
As a full-time resident of the moron's bench, none of this is a
surprise, but...
A moment's reflection on the trials and tribulations of my last 72
hours, compared to the total uselessness of BAD's existence, and I
appreciate my life more than I have in days.
Scott
*c.2003 S.Cramer
On 9 Nov 2003 20:25:34 -0800, [email protected] (Dale)
wrote:
>I'm interested in making a three panel, free standing decorative
>screen with each panel being approx. 18" x 72" connected with
>specialty double action hinges that I purchased from Lee Valley. I'm
>thinking about using hardwood ply with strips of solid wood around the
>edges. I'm concerned about the weight of being able to easily move the
>screen if I use 3/4" ply, but on the other hand I'm concerned that if
>I use 1/2" that it will be too flimsy. I've thought about using 3/4"
>stock for a frame on each panel with a 1/4" ply panel floating in the
>frame but I'd prefer a solid looking panel. What do you all think, can
>I get away with 1/2"?
I don't see why not.
But I'd go with the 1/4". I think 1/2" is overkill...for the 18"
span.
Use the 3/4" framing...and route a 1/4" channel in it and use the 1/4"
ply.
Good luck.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
On 9 Nov 2003 20:25:34 -0800, [email protected] (Dale)
wrote:
>What do you all think, can I get away with 1/2"?
All depends what you're going to do with it, and what the "style"
looks like. 1/2" certainly sounds reasonable for an 18" wide panel,
but 3/8" or 5/8" might not be out of line for some uses.
I'd think about the framing idea. Unless these panels are basically a
canvas for painting, then I think a frame (solid timber, rather than
ply) would look a lot better.
Birch ply has a much better strength / weight ratio, and you probably
notice weight here more then thickness.
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[email protected] (Dale) writes:
> I'm interested in making a three panel, free standing decorative
[...]
> frame but I'd prefer a solid looking panel. What do you all think, can
> I get away with 1/2"?
I would not go so thick. Consider that a japanese Shoji has only paper
(with some supporting struts).
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