Canada Post shipping experience.

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> They were confused.

Wow. Everyone in the world is confused 'cept you.

Must be confusing for you.

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I just want Lee Valley to stop being such a fuckin' cheap company and deliver
> to
> my house.

This may help...

<http://www.scottfamilylaw.net/images/crying-baby.jpg>

The D Smith entity posted thusly:

>Oleg Lego <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>The D Smith entity posted thusly:
>
>>> All the private companies will typically deliver to your door in urban
>>>areas and if you have a street address in a town they service, but they
>>>won't deliver to PO boxes or in rural areas.
>
>>Almost true. UPS (to cite just one example, will indeed deliver to a
>>rural area. In my case, I have a PO box number, which they will not
>>deliver to, but they will deliver to a land location.
>
> Let's make sure we have the same definition of "rural area". I'm
>excluding towns (which could be only a few hundred people where I am) if
>it's on the courier's route. By rural, I mean places that have directions
>that begin "at the end of the paved road..."

Well, my place is about 3 miles off the paved road, and I can get
to-the-door-delivery by specifying "NW25-18-16-W2nd" as my shipping
address. It's a land location, specified as
quarter-section-township-range and whatever the hell 'west of the 2nd
meridian' is. UPS will deliver to my land location, and will even
leave the parcel on the back porch if I'm not there, and if the
weather warrants.

They will deliver to places further (way further) off the beaten
track, and will tell you that if you ask about it.

> I haven't tried UPS, but Purolator, DHL, FedEx all will not deliver to
>my work location, in spite of us knowing the land location, having a
>street address, a sign with the street name on the nearest major road
>(gravel!), and a honkin' huge sign with the business name on it. We're
>five miles from pavement, and it's just too far out of their way. There
>are small, local couriers who will do it (and at least one large transport
>company), but the costs escalates rapidly.

Dunno about Purolator, but DHL is the most useless so-called delivery
service in existence. I have had the misfortune to have dealt with
them on three occasions, and in each case, they screwed up, royally.
The latest fiasco was when they delivered the package to the nearest
post office, when the package was clearly marked "hold for pickup",
they didn't call, and when I tried to track the parcel, they couldn't
tell me anything more than "It's in Regina", which it wasn't. Caused
me to have to run back home to get the parcel that should have been in
their depot when I went to pick it up. Just an extra 50 miles or so.
What a bunch of twits!

FedEx is great for speed and for following instructions, though I've
never tried to get them to deliver to my home.

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah sure. I buy 150 square feet of veneer from Lee Valley and I'm
> trolling.<g>
>

Yes. The two are in no way mutually exclusive.

You're a troll, plain and simple.

I just placed an order from Lee Valley When asked how it would ship she
said. Fed Ex to a home, UPS to a business. If I request it I could get
either UPS, postal servive or fed Ex. What great service and product
from Lee valley.

Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > They were confused.
>
> Wow. Everyone in the world is confused 'cept you.
>
> Must be confusing for you.

He's not confused or confusing, he's simply trolling. If Robin Lee
answered him directly and corrected his muddled beliefs, he'd tell
Robin he was confused.

Methinks it's time to let the troll go back under the bridge...

R

We have both, along with Purolator and DHL.
"Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:f_BZf.707$gy2.522@trnddc08...
> Do you have UPS or FedEx up North??
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Your parcel is at the post office.
>> Drive 6 miles.
>> Look for parking.
>> Find a meter one block away.
>> Wait in line 15 minutes.
>> Parcel is huge.
>> Does the post office have a dolly you can borrow. You must be joking.
>> Tell them you will be right back.
>> Go get truck park illegally right out front of post office.
>> Go into post office get sent to the back of the line.
>> Wait 10 minutes.
>> Carry parcel out to truck.
>> Discover illegal parking ticket on window.
>> Stop ordering from company. Not Lee Valley that time but it could have
>> been.
>>
>>
>> This is nothing try picking up a parcel in December. You can wait 40
>> minutes.
>>
>>
>
>

<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >Do you have UPS or FedEx up North??
>
> Why?
> Lee Valley won't use them.

So when I called LV on phone yesterday for you and they told me they can
ship by UPS, they were lying?

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:32:37 GMT, [email protected] (Ken Muldrew)
wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>I'm considering that Lee Valley vacuum press kit even though 72 bucks
seems high
> >>for a plastic bag <g> but I haven't seen anything else like it.
> >>
> >>Has anyone ever used it?
> >
> >I haven't but I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has.
> >
> I have searched the net but have never been able to find anyone using such
a
> simple device. Or how durable it is.
> Nor a Lee Valley customer who has one.
>
> I have plenty of veneers that are not going to glue flat unless I use a
press.

(snip)

Here you go Jimmy....this is from the MFG website:



Better Homes and Gardens WOOD Magazine (Review of the Thin Air Press) It
gets a 5 star rating with quotes like "the results were outstanding" we must
be doing something right.
February/March 2006
USA

Woodworking for Women Magazine (Review of the Roarockit Thin Air Press Kit
(for woodworkers)
February 2006
USA

American Woodworker Magazine (Article by George Vondriska about Roarockit
woodworker's kit)
Early 2006
USA

Woodcraft Magazine (Vacuum veneering: a 5 page article by Doug Stowe about
Roarockit woodworker's kit)
January 2006
USA

Australian Wood Review Magazine (Review about Roarockit woodworker's kit)
December 2005
Australia

Spotmag Magazine (Review about Roarockit skateboard deck building kit)
Janaury 2006
Spain

Woodworking for Women Magazine (Vacuum veneering: an article by Anna
Thompson on Roarockit woodworker's kit)
January 2006
USA

The Maui News (Article on Roarockit Skateboard Company and our teaching
program)
Summer 2005

Concrete Wave Magazine (Article by Malakai Kingston about deckmaking classes
at the University of California San Diego using in part Roarockit deckmaking
program and materials)
Summer 2005
USA

Fine Woodworking Magazine (Article by Anatole Burkin, editor. About
Roarockit woodworker's kit)
August 2005
USA

Woodcraft Magazine (Article by Tim Rinehart about Roarockit woodworker's
kit)
January 2005
USA

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:30:40 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Why? So you can have your complaints posted permanently for all to see? And
>in regards to experiences, isn't that what many people have done here? Aside
>from one or two, all experiences I've read have been positive. And for Lee
>Valley tools, there's been thousands of comments here in rec.woodworking.

You are the biggest tool here...and the most useless.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
> I just want Lee Valley to stop being such a cheap company and deliver to
> my house.

By now, everybody here knows that you can get your orders by UPS, but you're
just too damned inept to place an order properly and specify a suitable
shipper. It appears your whole life is now dedicated to being a troll. It
baffles me how you get satisfaction out of being an ignorant wonder, but
there it is.

"D Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I avoid any company who uses Canada Post.
>
> >Is Canada Post the national mail delivery? All the others that deliver
to
> >your door, is it their trucks delivering vs. a common carrier? If so I
wish
> >we down here still had that kind of service.
>
> Yes, that's "Canada Post". They do have their own delivery trucks. They
> deliver right to the door if you also get mail delivery right to your
door,
> but many new suburbs ("new" being <20 years old, probably) have
"Superboxes"
> that are like an outdoor postbox located a few doors away or around the
corner,
> and rural areas often only have a postbox in a nearby town available to
> people, so many don't get to-the-door delivery.
>
> All the private companies will typically deliver to your door in urban
> areas and if you have a street address in a town they service, but they
> won't deliver to PO boxes or in rural areas. They typically use their
> own trucks, too, but in some areas they contract with local delivery
> agents (small towns, etc.)
>
>

So... this is the way it is and the way it has been for quite a while in
Canada. That just makes the OP's original post (whine) all the more
ludicrous. He comes to a woodworking newsgroup and pitches a big bitch
about the way deliveries are in Canada. The OP needs to get used to life
where he lives or move.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Your parcel is at the post office.
> Drive 6 miles.
> Look for parking.
> Find a meter one block away.
> Wait in line 15 minutes.
> Parcel is huge.
> Does the post office have a dolly you can borrow. You must be joking.
> Tell them you will be right back.
> Go get truck park illegally right out front of post office.
> Go into post office get sent to the back of the line.
> Wait 10 minutes.
> Carry parcel out to truck.
> Discover illegal parking ticket on window.
> Stop ordering from company. Not Lee Valley that time but it could have
been.
>
>
> This is nothing try picking up a parcel in December. You can wait 40
minutes.
>
>

If you're going to complain about your own decision, then don't be so cheap
next time and pay for delivery to your house.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:30:31 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I just want Lee Valley to stop being such a cheap company and deliver to
>> my house.
>
>By now, everybody here knows that you can get your orders by UPS,

You are confused.

"Leon" <[email protected]> writes:


><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I avoid any company who uses Canada Post.

>Is Canada Post the national mail delivery? All the others that deliver to
>your door, is it their trucks delivering vs. a common carrier? If so I wish
>we down here still had that kind of service.

Yes, that's "Canada Post". They do have their own delivery trucks. They
deliver right to the door if you also get mail delivery right to your door,
but many new suburbs ("new" being <20 years old, probably) have "Superboxes"
that are like an outdoor postbox located a few doors away or around the corner,
and rural areas often only have a postbox in a nearby town available to
people, so many don't get to-the-door delivery.

All the private companies will typically deliver to your door in urban
areas and if you have a street address in a town they service, but they
won't deliver to PO boxes or in rural areas. They typically use their
own trucks, too, but in some areas they contract with local delivery
agents (small towns, etc.)

[email protected] writes:

>I live in a town of 2500 people.
>I see a Puralator Van on my street almost every day.
>Tons of people here use them.
>We are 50 miles from a hardware store. I even have nails delivered for my nail
>guns. It would take me two hours and fifteen bucks in gas to go get them.
>Courier cost me 12 bucks.
>Even Sears has started using them here for home delivery.
>I think Lee Valley could get a good deal from them.

I hope it doesn't bother you that Purolator is owned by the Post
Office. :-)

Oddly, you can buy Purolator service from the Post Office nearest to
where I work, but you can't get them to deliver to a PO Box in the same
building....

Oleg Lego <[email protected]> writes:

>The D Smith entity posted thusly:

>> All the private companies will typically deliver to your door in urban
>>areas and if you have a street address in a town they service, but they
>>won't deliver to PO boxes or in rural areas.

>Almost true. UPS (to cite just one example, will indeed deliver to a
>rural area. In my case, I have a PO box number, which they will not
>deliver to, but they will deliver to a land location.

Let's make sure we have the same definition of "rural area". I'm
excluding towns (which could be only a few hundred people where I am) if
it's on the courier's route. By rural, I mean places that have directions
that begin "at the end of the paved road..."

I haven't tried UPS, but Purolator, DHL, FedEx all will not deliver to
my work location, in spite of us knowing the land location, having a
street address, a sign with the street name on the nearest major road
(gravel!), and a honkin' huge sign with the business name on it. We're
five miles from pavement, and it's just too far out of their way. There
are small, local couriers who will do it (and at least one large transport
company), but the costs escalates rapidly.

>Personally, I prefer the PO box delivery, so I don't have to be there,
>and I often just give the address of the post office (which is the
>same as the cafe, pub, and hotel), and the owner/bartender/postmaster
>just signs for it and I pick it up when I get the mail.

The postmaster where my work mail address is (a PO box) has also
suggested giving couriers the street address. And that's for an Offical,
Canada Post, Post Office building. She also signs passport applications...

...and I agree: courier delivery when you're not home ends up being
"hold for pickup". Some couriers (FedEX, Purolator) seem to have no
problem if you tell them you want all deiveries to your address "held for
pickup", but your mileage may differ.

"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> writes:


>"D Smith" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> I hope it doesn't bother you that Purolator is owned by the Post
>> Office. :-)
>>
>> Oddly, you can buy Purolator service from the Post Office nearest to
>> where I work, but you can't get them to deliver to a PO Box in the same
>> building....

>Would that be because they would then be competing with themselves??

Perhaps, but the only courier that I know of that will deliver to a PO
Box is Priority Post, which is Canada Post's internal courier service (as
opposed to Purolator, which they own but runs as a mostly-independent
business). The Purolator policy could be one that existed before Canada
Post bought them, and is maintained as part of an arms-length business
realtionship. Other couriers also won't deliver to PO boxes (although I'm
sure theyd rather take the business than let it go to Priority Post), and
I have no idea whether that is their policy, or because the Post Office
usually won't accept delivery from them. I know of one Post Office that
will accept delivery from other couriers if you send it to their street
address, but that could be against policy...

Oleg Lego <[email protected]> writes:

>The D Smith entity posted thusly:

>>Oleg Lego <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>>The D Smith entity posted thusly:
>>
>> Let's make sure we have the same definition of "rural area". I'm
>>excluding towns (which could be only a few hundred people where I am) if
>>it's on the courier's route. By rural, I mean places that have directions
>>that begin "at the end of the paved road..."

>Well, my place is about 3 miles off the paved road, and I can get
>to-the-door-delivery by specifying "NW25-18-16-W2nd" as my shipping
>address. It's a land location, specified as
>quarter-section-township-range and whatever the hell 'west of the 2nd
>meridian' is. UPS will deliver to my land location, and will even
>leave the parcel on the back porch if I'm not there, and if the
>weather warrants.

Yep. You're on the northwest quarter section of the 18th township on
the 16th range. Standard Canada Land Survey designation in the western
provinces. There are several zones, each based on a meridian (line of
longitude). The prime meridian in the system is somewhere in Manitoba, so
there is a NW25-18-16 quarter section somewhere there, too. (As well as
one in the zone that is west of the 3rd meridian, one in the zone east of
the second, etc.) I should be able to find you pretty easily on the map...


>They will deliver to places further (way further) off the beaten
>track, and will tell you that if you ask about it.

I'll have to ask them - could be useful to know if they would deliver
where I work. Out of curiosity, how much do they charge? Small courier
services out of Regina seem to want about $50 to do a delivery to my work
location.

>> I haven't tried UPS, but Purolator, DHL, FedEx all will not deliver to
>>my work location, in spite of us knowing the land location, having a
>>street address, a sign with the street name on the nearest major road
>>(gravel!), and a honkin' huge sign with the business name on it. We're
>>five miles from pavement, and it's just too far out of their way. There
>>are small, local couriers who will do it (and at least one large transport
>>company), but the costs escalates rapidly.

>Dunno about Purolator, but DHL is the most useless so-called delivery
>service in existence. I have had the misfortune to have dealt with
>them on three occasions, and in each case, they screwed up, royally.

They did manage to deliver one package to my work location, after
trying to take it to the town the PO Box is located in. The Postmaster
told them where we were... Now that they know, they just keep it at the
depot and phone us to pick it up...

>The latest fiasco was when they delivered the package to the nearest
>post office, when the package was clearly marked "hold for pickup",
>they didn't call, and when I tried to track the parcel, they couldn't
>tell me anything more than "It's in Regina", which it wasn't. Caused
>me to have to run back home to get the parcel that should have been in
>their depot when I went to pick it up. Just an extra 50 miles or so.
>What a bunch of twits!

>FedEx is great for speed and for following instructions, though I've
>never tried to get them to deliver to my home.

Pretty sure they won't, based on my experience, but things change...

"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Worse, all farms seem to be called by the name of whoever homesteaded
> it 50 years ago. I have been in my place for about 5 years, and I
> suspect they'll start calling it by my last name just after I die, if
> I manage to last more than 10 or 15 years from now.
>

Twenty-five years here and someone came by last year who referred to it as
the "J...." farm. Didn't feel so bad, though. They left in 1942, and the
next family owned it longer than I have, a fact known to the questioner, who
said "we always referred to it as the J.... farm when I was growing up."

Dispatchers have a tough job. Been both dispatcher and responder in my
time, and getting worthwhile information out of someone in a panic is very
difficult. Not only by 'phone, either!

[email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:42:56 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>So by not ordering from that company again will that solve the problems you
>>had with the post office for future deliveries?
>>
>Yes. I switched to BossTools http://www.bosstoolsupply.com who carry the same
>stuff as the other company and deliver to my door...cheaper as well.

Not much overlap there. I wonder if you weren't thinking of House of
Tools rather than Lee Valley.

Ken Muldrew
[email protected]
(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

[email protected] wrote:

>I'm considering that Lee Valley vacuum press kit even though 72 bucks seems high
>for a plastic bag <g> but I haven't seen anything else like it.
>
>Has anyone ever used it?

I haven't but I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has.

Ken Muldrew
[email protected]
(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Your parcel is at the post office.
> Drive 6 miles.
> Look for parking.
> Find a meter one block away.
> Wait in line 15 minutes.
> Parcel is huge.
> Does the post office have a dolly you can borrow. You must be joking.
> Tell them you will be right back.
> Go get truck park illegally right out front of post office.
> Go into post office get sent to the back of the line.
> Wait 10 minutes.
> Carry parcel out to truck.
> Discover illegal parking ticket on window.
> Stop ordering from company. Not Lee Valley that time but it could have
> been.

So by not ordering from that company again will that solve the problems you
had with the post office for future deliveries?

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:50:34 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If Robin Lee
>> answered him directly
>
>From my limited exposure to Robin's way of doing business, I'm pretty
>sure that even jimmy-the-possible-troll would be treated with respect.
>
I'm not sure how my orders stack up to yours but I just checked my Lee Valley
history.
16 orders at an average of about $150 maybe more, over a 2 1/2 year period
ending about a year ago.

On 8 Apr 2006 11:02:35 -0700, "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > They were confused.
>>
>> Wow. Everyone in the world is confused 'cept you.
>>
>> Must be confusing for you.
>
>He's not confused or confusing, he's simply trolling. If Robin Lee
>answered him directly and corrected his muddled beliefs, he'd tell
>Robin he was confused.
>
>Methinks it's time to let the troll go back under the bridge...
>
Robin Lee has not responded because I'm right.
Even customer service admitted I wasn't the only customer unhappy with Lee
Valley using Canada Post.

No one has produced a single bit of evidence that Lee Valley uses any other
courier in BC than Canada Post.

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:16:45 GMT, "Michael Daly" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>On 7-Apr-2006, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> I quit Futureshop who used to deliver to my door, and now use Staples and Office
>> Depot who deliver right to my door...Free.
>
>Canada Post delivers right to my door.

Where does your mail go?

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:09:16 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Your parcel is at the post office.
>> Drive 6 miles.
>> Look for parking.
>> Find a meter one block away.
>> Wait in line 15 minutes.
>> Parcel is huge.
>> Does the post office have a dolly you can borrow. You must be joking.
>> Tell them you will be right back.
>> Go get truck park illegally right out front of post office.
>> Go into post office get sent to the back of the line.
>> Wait 10 minutes.
>> Carry parcel out to truck.
>> Discover illegal parking ticket on window.
>> Stop ordering from company. Not Lee Valley that time but it could have
>been.
>>
>>
>> This is nothing try picking up a parcel in December. You can wait 40
>minutes.
>>
>>
>
>If you're going to complain about your own decision, then don't be so cheap
>next time and pay for delivery to your house.

Do you and Upscale share a brain?

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:35:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >So... this is the way it is and the way it has been for quite a while in
> >Canada. That just makes the OP's original post (whine) all the more
> >ludicrous. He comes to a woodworking
>
> Listen moron, EVERYTHING I order now is delivered to my door by courier.
> From Mark's Work Warehouse, to Staples, Office Depot, City Chef, Boss
tools, and
> several others. Most are FREE delivery for large enough orders as well.
>

Moron? You come to a woodworking newsgroup and piss your pants because you
have to drive six miles, suffer a parking ticket for parking illegally, and
carry a package out to your car - all of which has absolutely nothing to do
with woodworking, and you call me a moron? Maybe you should have taken your
little hissy fit to alt.PMS.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
> BTW Rob if you are reading.
> You could do worse then adding a page to the website for customers to post
their
> experiences and or how to's with their purchases.
> I'd be happy just to read the positive ones if they give insight into
using the
> tool.

Why? So you can have your complaints posted permanently for all to see? And
in regards to experiences, isn't that what many people have done here? Aside
from one or two, all experiences I've read have been positive. And for Lee
Valley tools, there's been thousands of comments here in rec.woodworking.

> Lee Valley Reps are good but not intimately familiar with every product.

That's not an LV problem, it's yours. Every question I've ever asked of LV's
technical support has without exception, come back to me with the exact
answer I was looking for or a way for me to find the answer. You'd do well
to consider that with the thousands of items that LV keeps in stock, nobody
is intimately familiar with everything.

You're still trolling and just so you know, I'm essentially a troll too.
Only difference is that my trolling is primarily aimed at other trolls.
(Just in case you were thinking of asking)

<[email protected]> wrote in message
> I'm not sure how my orders stack up to yours but I just checked my Lee
Valley
> history.

Any way you want to look at it, unless you're in prison or the military,
where you live is your choice. You want the country setting with all the
advantages (and disadvantages) that come with such a location, then you're
going to have to find a way to deal with it. So far, the *only* way you
appear to handle things is to whine and whine and whine again. I'd tell you
to deal with it except we already know how you cope.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:42:56 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
> Yes. I switched to BossTools http://www.bosstoolsupply.com who carry the
> same
> stuff as the other company and deliver to my door...cheaper as well.
> I quit Futureshop who used to deliver to my door, and now use Staples and
> Office
> Depot who deliver right to my door...Free.
> I use City Chef who delivers FREE right to my door.
> Even Sears now delivers right to my door.
>
> I avoid any company who uses Canada Post.

Is Canada Post the national mail delivery? All the others that deliver to
your door, is it their trucks delivering vs. a common carrier? If so I wish
we down here still had that kind of service.

"D Smith" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I hope it doesn't bother you that Purolator is owned by the Post
> Office. :-)
>
> Oddly, you can buy Purolator service from the Post Office nearest to
> where I work, but you can't get them to deliver to a PO Box in the same
> building....

Would that be because they would then be competing with themselves??

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:16:45 GMT, "Michael Daly" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe you should find out why you seem to be one of the
>only people who doesn't get a parcel delivered to your door.

Along with the other TWENTY THOUSAND people within 60 miles of me.
None of us get home delivery and that includes parcels shipped by Canada Post.
.

The D Smith entity posted thusly:

>Oleg Lego <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>Well, my place is about 3 miles off the paved road, and I can get
>>to-the-door-delivery by specifying "NW25-18-16-W2nd" as my shipping
>>address. It's a land location, specified as
>>quarter-section-township-range and whatever the hell 'west of the 2nd
>>meridian' is. UPS will deliver to my land location, and will even
>>leave the parcel on the back porch if I'm not there, and if the
>>weather warrants.
>
> Yep. You're on the northwest quarter section of the 18th township on
>the 16th range. Standard Canada Land Survey designation in the western
>provinces. There are several zones, each based on a meridian (line of
>longitude). The prime meridian in the system is somewhere in Manitoba, so
>there is a NW25-18-16 quarter section somewhere there, too. (As well as
>one in the zone that is west of the 3rd meridian, one in the zone east of
>the second, etc.) I should be able to find you pretty easily on the map...

I figured the meridian thing was something like that, but had no idea
where the boundaries were.

The land location is a pretty easy way of finding someone in a rural
area. I responded to a fire call today, in which the place was
referred to as the 'Bennet Farm" (not the real name), and by land
location. Looking at the map, I saw it was the "Smith place". Turned
out the Smith putting in the call was Bennet Smith. Without the land
location, there would have been no way to find it.

Worse, all farms seem to be called by the name of whoever homesteaded
it 50 years ago. I have been in my place for about 5 years, and I
suspect they'll start calling it by my last name just after I die, if
I manage to last more than 10 or 15 years from now.

>>They will deliver to places further (way further) off the beaten
>>track, and will tell you that if you ask about it.
>
> I'll have to ask them - could be useful to know if they would deliver
>where I work. Out of curiosity, how much do they charge? Small courier
>services out of Regina seem to want about $50 to do a delivery to my work
>location.

No idea. I have received only stuff for work, paid for by my employer,
and haven't noticed the shipping cost.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >You're still trolling and just so you know
>
> Yeah sure. I buy 150 square feet of veneer from Lee Valley and I'm
trolling.<g>

Big deal! I could spend $20,000 a year at Lee Valley and still know zip
about woodworking. If you're trying to suggest that you know your way around
a workshop, you're doing a poor job of going about it ~ almost as bad a job
as you've been doing with your whining about Lee Valley and postal shipping.

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:31:06 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They were confused.
>
>Wow. Everyone in the world is confused 'cept you.

That certainly does seem to be the case. At least as far as Lee Valley shipping
practices.
It does make sense.
No one ever accused the average woodworker of being very smart.<g>
You being a perfect example.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:16:45 GMT, "Michael Daly" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should find out why you seem to be one of the
>>only people who doesn't get a parcel delivered to your door.
>
> Along with the other TWENTY THOUSAND people within 60 miles of me.
> None of us get home delivery and that includes parcels shipped by Canada
> Post.
> .

That sounds like how the PS in the US is going. I still have mail delivered
to my box at the street in front of my house. Older neighbor hoods have
mail delivered literally to the front door. New neighborhoods have to
collect mail at the end of the street in a central collection of mail boxes.
I suspect large packages that do not fit the box have to be picked up at the
PO.

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:58:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:16:45 GMT, "Michael Daly" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe you should find out why you seem to be one of the
>>>only people who doesn't get a parcel delivered to your door.
>>
>> Along with the other TWENTY THOUSAND people within 60 miles of me.
>> None of us get home delivery and that includes parcels shipped by Canada
>> Post.
>> .
>
>That sounds like how the PS in the US is going. I still have mail delivered
>to my box at the street in front of my house. Older neighbor hoods have
>mail delivered literally to the front door. New neighborhoods have to
>collect mail at the end of the street in a central collection of mail boxes.
>I suspect large packages that do not fit the box have to be picked up at the
>PO.
>

We have one of those cluster boxes in my neighborhood (and we aren't a
typical suburban subdivision). For parcels, there are several boxes that
can hold parcels. Postman puts parcel for you in one of the boxes and
leaves the key for you in your regular small box. You get the key, attempt
to determine just which box it goes to (did I mention they don't have
labels on the key?) and remove your parcel, the parcel door captures the
key when you open the door and the postman retreives it the next time
somebody has a package and they need that box. Your guess is correct, if
the box is too big, you have to go to the post office to pick it up.

A couple of problems with this setup. 1) the front of the box has a lip
around it (the door frame). The back of the box that is used by the
mailman opens up in a single fell swoop allowing the postman access to all
the mail slots at once, thus all boxes have the full dimension of the box
available to the mailman. The mailman does *not* like taking parcels back
to the post office, so he (or she) is motivated to make sure that the
parcel *will* fit into one of those parcel boxes. It may take a bit of
squeezing on his part, but you'd be surprised how much you can squeeze a
parcel to fit into a more confined space. Postman grunts, squeezes and
gets the large package into the parcel box and leaves the key for the
postal customer. Postal customer picks up his mail, discovers the key,
fiddles around with all the parcel doors until he finds the one that the
key opens, opens the door and attempts to retrieve his package. I did
mention that the customer end of the box has a lip around the door, didn't
I? i.e., the customer does *not* have access to the full width nor height
of the the parcel box. For really large parcels inserted by really
motivated mail carriers, the customer doesn't even have any place to get
his fingers around the package either. I have literally had to cut boxes
apart in the parcel box in order to get my delivery out. Second problem 2)
Those boxes and keys get a *lot* of use over the years. Keys wear out, but
the postman doesn't realize that. I got a package last week; after
spending about 5 minutes trying to figure out which box the key went to
because it did not work in any of the key holes, I could not get the key to
open any of the locks. I wound up having to drive home, get a pair of
pliers, and drive back (it's about a 1 mile drive to our cluster ... box)
and was finally able to use the pliers to turn the key and retrieve my
package from HMS products with my 320 grit Shapton stone, stone flattening
jig and powders. The key was so worn, it barely worked.



+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

On 7 Apr 2006 15:29:56 -0600, D Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Leon" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> I avoid any company who uses Canada Post.
>
>>Is Canada Post the national mail delivery? All the others that deliver to
>>your door, is it their trucks delivering vs. a common carrier? If so I wish
>>we down here still had that kind of service.
>
> Yes, that's "Canada Post". They do have their own delivery trucks. They
>deliver right to the door if you also get mail delivery right to your door,
>but many new suburbs ("new" being <20 years old, probably) have "Superboxes"
>that are like an outdoor postbox located a few doors away or around the corner,
>and rural areas often only have a postbox in a nearby town available to
>people, so many don't get to-the-door delivery.
>
> All the private companies will typically deliver to your door in urban
>areas and if you have a street address in a town they service, but they
>won't deliver to PO boxes or in rural areas. They typically use their
>own trucks, too, but in some areas they contract with local delivery
>agents (small towns, etc.)
>
I live in a town of 2500 people.
I see a Puralator Van on my street almost every day.
Tons of people here use them.
We are 50 miles from a hardware store. I even have nails delivered for my nail
guns. It would take me two hours and fifteen bucks in gas to go get them.
Courier cost me 12 bucks.
Even Sears has started using them here for home delivery.
I think Lee Valley could get a good deal from them.

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 13:57:02 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Wait till they buy the power company where you live and force you to have to
>convert all your tools to 321 Volt/4.5 phase.

I heard they're coming out with a Veritas low angle transformer, that
places the bevel of the sine wave up...

The D Smith entity posted thusly:

> All the private companies will typically deliver to your door in urban
>areas and if you have a street address in a town they service, but they
>won't deliver to PO boxes or in rural areas.

Almost true. UPS (to cite just one example, will indeed deliver to a
rural area. In my case, I have a PO box number, which they will not
deliver to, but they will deliver to a land location.

Personally, I prefer the PO box delivery, so I don't have to be there,
and I often just give the address of the post office (which is the
same as the cafe, pub, and hotel), and the owner/bartender/postmaster
just signs for it and I pick it up when I get the mail.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 04:11:01 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>
> >> >Do you have UPS or FedEx up North??
> >>
> >> Why?
> >> Lee Valley won't use them.
> >
> >So when I called LV on phone yesterday for you and they told me they can
> >ship by UPS, they were lying?
>
> They were confused.

Hahahahaha *coughs* hahahahaha

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:


Why don't you have Purolator deliver to you door next time?


btw... Canada Post OWNS (94%) Purolator.

You read that right... OWNS..Purolator.

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:50:34 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> If Robin Lee
> >> answered him directly
> >
> >From my limited exposure to Robin's way of doing business, I'm pretty
> >sure that even jimmy-the-possible-troll would be treated with respect.
> >
> I'm not sure how my orders stack up to yours but I just checked my Lee Valley
> history.
> 16 orders at an average of about $150 maybe more, over a 2 1/2 year period
> ending about a year ago.

...and it took you that long to come to the conclusion that Lee Valley has
become so successful, that they bought Canada Post and are now imposing THEIR
shipping methods.
Wait till they buy the power company where you live and force you to have to
convert all your tools to 321 Volt/4.5 phase.
You think you're screwed now?

*diabolical laughter*
BWHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHA!!!!


r

In article <[email protected]>,
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:

> If Robin Lee
> answered him directly

From my limited exposure to Robin's way of doing business, I'm pretty
sure that even jimmy-the-possible-troll would be treated with respect.

I could be wrong.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

On 08/04/2006 7:30 PM, Upscale wrote:

> By now, everybody here knows that you can get your orders by UPS, but you're
> just too damned inept to place an order properly and specify a suitable
> shipper. It appears your whole life is now dedicated to being a troll. It
> baffles me how you get satisfaction out of being an ignorant wonder, but
> there it is.

It's because Canada Post wouldn't deliver his medication and he's too
busy frothing at the mouth to figure out how to get it delivered to his
bunker some other way.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:53:45 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >all of which has absolutely nothing to do
> >with woodworking, and you call me a moron?
>
> Yes.
> Anyone who replies to a thread about a subject he has no interest in just
to
> BITCH and Whine about it is a MORON.
>

I'll give you this - you're amusing. Not too freakin' bright, but you are
amusing.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:42:56 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Your parcel is at the post office.
>> Drive 6 miles.
>> Look for parking.
>> Find a meter one block away.
>> Wait in line 15 minutes.
>> Parcel is huge.
>> Does the post office have a dolly you can borrow. You must be joking.
>> Tell them you will be right back.
>> Go get truck park illegally right out front of post office.
>> Go into post office get sent to the back of the line.
>> Wait 10 minutes.
>> Carry parcel out to truck.
>> Discover illegal parking ticket on window.
>> Stop ordering from company. Not Lee Valley that time but it could have
>> been.
>
>So by not ordering from that company again will that solve the problems you
>had with the post office for future deliveries?
>
Yes. I switched to BossTools http://www.bosstoolsupply.com who carry the same
stuff as the other company and deliver to my door...cheaper as well.
I quit Futureshop who used to deliver to my door, and now use Staples and Office
Depot who deliver right to my door...Free.
I use City Chef who delivers FREE right to my door.
Even Sears now delivers right to my door.

I avoid any company who uses Canada Post.

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 03:39:37 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I'm not sure how my orders stack up to yours but I just checked my Lee
>Valley
>> history.
>
>Any way you want to look at it, unless you're in prison or the military,
>where you live is your choice. You want the country setting with all the
>advantages (and disadvantages) that come with such a location, then you're
>going to have to find a way to deal with it. So far, the *only* way you
>appear to handle things is to whine and whine and whine again. I'd tell you
>to deal with it except we already know how you cope.

Nonsense.
I stopped shopping at Lee Valley a year ago.
That's a long time to wait to start whining.
I'm just posting a simple set of facts and my solutions.

Do you have UPS or FedEx up North??

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Your parcel is at the post office.
> Drive 6 miles.
> Look for parking.
> Find a meter one block away.
> Wait in line 15 minutes.
> Parcel is huge.
> Does the post office have a dolly you can borrow. You must be joking.
> Tell them you will be right back.
> Go get truck park illegally right out front of post office.
> Go into post office get sent to the back of the line.
> Wait 10 minutes.
> Carry parcel out to truck.
> Discover illegal parking ticket on window.
> Stop ordering from company. Not Lee Valley that time but it could have
> been.
>
>
> This is nothing try picking up a parcel in December. You can wait 40
> minutes.
>
>

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 13:57:02 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:50:34 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> > "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If Robin Lee
>> >> answered him directly
>> >
>> >From my limited exposure to Robin's way of doing business, I'm pretty
>> >sure that even jimmy-the-possible-troll would be treated with respect.
>> >
>> I'm not sure how my orders stack up to yours but I just checked my Lee Valley
>> history.
>> 16 orders at an average of about $150 maybe more, over a 2 1/2 year period
>> ending about a year ago.
>
A Village idiot first class named Robatoy writes:

>...and it took you that long to come to the conclusion that Lee Valley has
>become so successful, that they bought Canada Post and are now imposing THEIR
>shipping methods.

No I just got tired of carrying badly damaged boxes a block to my car.
Canada Post must be the ONLY courier on the planet that hasn't got a dolly you
can borrow for a couple minutes to lug your stuff to your vehicle.

I asked Lee Valley if I could get home delivery like I get from all my other
suppliers and they said no.
That was a year ago, and I haven't ordered since.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:30:40 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>You're still trolling and just so you know

Yeah sure. I buy 150 square feet of veneer from Lee Valley and I'm trolling.<g>

On 7-Apr-2006, [email protected] wrote:

> I quit Futureshop who used to deliver to my door, and now use Staples and Office
> Depot who deliver right to my door...Free.

Canada Post delivers right to my door. I always request Canada Post if shipping is from
the US (via USPS obviously) or if it is not free. Canada Post is cheaper and doesn't
charge outrageous customs brokerage fees like the parcel delivery companies.

The problem you have is not the companies you deal with - it's your relationship
with Canada Post. Maybe you should find out why you seem to be one of the
only people who doesn't get a parcel delivered to your door.

Mike

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:50:34 -0400, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If Robin Lee
>> answered him directly
>
>From my limited exposure to Robin's way of doing business, I'm pretty
>sure that even jimmy-the-possible-troll would be treated with respect.

I was treated just fine.
I was told that Canada Post was the only way I could get a package delivered.
So I ceased being a customer.
We both made decisions that were in our best interest.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:09:15 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:32:37 GMT, [email protected] (Ken Muldrew) wrote:
>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>I'm considering that Lee Valley vacuum press kit even though 72 bucks seems high
>>>for a plastic bag <g> but I haven't seen anything else like it.
>>>
>>>Has anyone ever used it?
>>
>>I haven't but I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has.
>>
>I have searched the net but have never been able to find anyone using such a
>simple device. Or how durable it is.
>Nor a Lee Valley customer who has one.
>
>I have plenty of veneers that are not going to glue flat unless I use a press.
>
BTW Rob if you are reading.
You could do worse then adding a page to the website for customers to post their
experiences and or how to's with their purchases.
I'd be happy just to read the positive ones if they give insight into using the
tool.
Lee Valley Reps are good but not intimately familiar with every product.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:32:37 GMT, [email protected] (Ken Muldrew) wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>I'm considering that Lee Valley vacuum press kit even though 72 bucks seems high
>>for a plastic bag <g> but I haven't seen anything else like it.
>>
>>Has anyone ever used it?
>
>I haven't but I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has.
>
I have searched the net but have never been able to find anyone using such a
simple device. Or how durable it is.
Nor a Lee Valley customer who has one.

I have plenty of veneers that are not going to glue flat unless I use a press.



>Ken Muldrew
>[email protected]
>(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:50:05 -0400, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:32:37 GMT, [email protected] (Ken Muldrew)
>wrote:
>>
>> >[email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >>I'm considering that Lee Valley vacuum press kit even though 72 bucks
>seems high
>> >>for a plastic bag <g> but I haven't seen anything else like it.
>> >>
>> >>Has anyone ever used it?
>> >
>> >I haven't but I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has.
>> >
>> I have searched the net but have never been able to find anyone using such
>a
>> simple device. Or how durable it is.
>> Nor a Lee Valley customer who has one.
>>
>> I have plenty of veneers that are not going to glue flat unless I use a
>press.
>
>(snip)
>
>Here you go Jimmy....this is from the MFG website:
>
Thanks Rob. I never knew the kits name before.
Looks like it will meet my needs. It was the durability factor I was worried
about. A little late because I'm just about to go whole hog in the garden but I
will be ordering one of these kits.

You will be pleased I'm about done ragging on Lee Valley. I'm the anal type who
figures maybe just one more explanation is in order to get my point across.
It never works, I just dig a deeper hole, but that doesn't stop me from
trying.<g>


>
>
>Better Homes and Gardens WOOD Magazine (Review of the Thin Air Press) It
>gets a 5 star rating with quotes like "the results were outstanding" we must
>be doing something right.
>February/March 2006
>USA
>
>Woodworking for Women Magazine (Review of the Roarockit Thin Air Press Kit
>(for woodworkers)
>February 2006
>USA
>
>American Woodworker Magazine (Article by George Vondriska about Roarockit
>woodworker's kit)
>Early 2006
>USA
>
>Woodcraft Magazine (Vacuum veneering: a 5 page article by Doug Stowe about
>Roarockit woodworker's kit)
>January 2006
>USA
>
>Australian Wood Review Magazine (Review about Roarockit woodworker's kit)
>December 2005
>Australia
>
>Spotmag Magazine (Review about Roarockit skateboard deck building kit)
>Janaury 2006
>Spain
>
>Woodworking for Women Magazine (Vacuum veneering: an article by Anna
>Thompson on Roarockit woodworker's kit)
>January 2006
>USA
>
>The Maui News (Article on Roarockit Skateboard Company and our teaching
>program)
>Summer 2005
>
>Concrete Wave Magazine (Article by Malakai Kingston about deckmaking classes
>at the University of California San Diego using in part Roarockit deckmaking
>program and materials)
>Summer 2005
>USA
>
>Fine Woodworking Magazine (Article by Anatole Burkin, editor. About
>Roarockit woodworker's kit)
>August 2005
>USA
>
>Woodcraft Magazine (Article by Tim Rinehart about Roarockit woodworker's
>kit)
>January 2005
>USA
>

On 8 Apr 2006 17:05:27 -0600, D Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] writes:
>
>>I live in a town of 2500 people.
>>I see a Puralator Van on my street almost every day.
>>Tons of people here use them.
>>We are 50 miles from a hardware store. I even have nails delivered for my nail
>>guns. It would take me two hours and fifteen bucks in gas to go get them.
>>Courier cost me 12 bucks.
>>Even Sears has started using them here for home delivery.
>>I think Lee Valley could get a good deal from them.
>
> I hope it doesn't bother you that Purolator is owned by the Post
>Office. :-)
>
I don't care if it's owned by Osama bin Laden
I just want Lee Valley to stop being such a fuckin' cheap company and deliver to
my house.

Like BossTools does cheap
Like City Chef does FREE
Like Staples does FREE
Like Sears does cheap
Like Mark's does cheap
Like Office Depot does FREE

> Oddly, you can buy Purolator service from the Post Office nearest to
>where I work, but you can't get them to deliver to a PO Box in the same
>building....

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:58:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:16:45 GMT, "Michael Daly" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe you should find out why you seem to be one of the
>>>only people who doesn't get a parcel delivered to your door.
>>
>> Along with the other TWENTY THOUSAND people within 60 miles of me.
>> None of us get home delivery and that includes parcels shipped by Canada
>> Post.
>> .
>
>That sounds like how the PS in the US is going. I still have mail delivered
>to my box at the street in front of my house. Older neighbor hoods have
>mail delivered literally to the front door. New neighborhoods have to
>collect mail at the end of the street in a central collection of mail boxes.
>I suspect large packages that do not fit the box have to be picked up at the
>PO.
>
That the case here Leon as well.
And if it's a downtown postal Station it can be horrible getting in and out in
less than an hour. Then carrying the parcel a block or two.
I'm willing to pay the difference between Canada Post and UPS or Purilator for
home delivery but the option is not available through ANY online company I've
used. It's Canada Post or nothing.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:30:31 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I just want Lee Valley to stop being such a cheap company and deliver to
>> my house.
>
>By now, everybody here knows that you can get your orders by UPS, but you're
>just too damned inept to place an order properly and specify a suitable
>shipper. It appears your whole life is now dedicated to being a troll.

I had some Lee Valley shipping issues where one shipper damaged
several packages in a row. One package was ripped open, bagged, and
contained items Lee Valley dosen't even sell, like a hair brush and a
can of spray silicone. <G>

ONE short phone conversation with a very pleasant and professional CSR
later, my packages were sent via other companies and the problem was
solved.

Lee Valley also sent a call tag for the damaged packages so that they
could take the issue to the shipper.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 04:11:01 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >Do you have UPS or FedEx up North??
>>
>> Why?
>> Lee Valley won't use them.
>
>So when I called LV on phone yesterday for you and they told me they can
>ship by UPS, they were lying?

They were confused.

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 19:49:44 -0500, "The Davenport's" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>> I just want Lee Valley to stop being such a cheap company and deliver to
>>> my house.
>>
>> By now, everybody here knows that you can get your orders by UPS, but
>> you're
>> just too damned inept to place an order properly and specify a suitable
>> shipper. It appears your whole life is now dedicated to being a troll. It
>> baffles me how you get satisfaction out of being an ignorant wonder, but
>> there it is.
>
>
>But he is so GOOD at being an ignorant wonder!
>
>Mike
>
you have to admit that because Jimmy chooses to live in a remote area, that at
least his village isn't missing it's idiot..
Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:47:39 GMT, "Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Do you have UPS or FedEx up North??

Why?
Lee Valley won't use them.

>> I just want Lee Valley to stop being such a cheap company and deliver to
>> my house.
>
> By now, everybody here knows that you can get your orders by UPS, but
> you're
> just too damned inept to place an order properly and specify a suitable
> shipper. It appears your whole life is now dedicated to being a troll. It
> baffles me how you get satisfaction out of being an ignorant wonder, but
> there it is.


But he is so GOOD at being an ignorant wonder!

Mike

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:09:16 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> This is nothing try picking up a parcel in December. You can wait 40
>minutes.
>>
>>
>
>If you're going to complain about your own decision, then don't be so cheap
>next time and pay for delivery to your house.

BTW dumbASS Futureshop never even informed customers of the delivery change.
One day instead of the usual home delivery I had from them for two years I
found my parcels going to the Post Office.
Not only that you weren't even required to sign for them.
So if your card informing you of the parcel goes into someone else's box
(happens at least twice a year) and the clerk hands them an UNWRAPPED DVD player
what do you think that person might do?

BTW there is NO WAY to get a parcel from Futureshop delivered to your home
either. Like Lee Valley they will only ship via Canada Post. I offered to pay
the difference. They said no.

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:18:16 GMT, [email protected] (Ken Muldrew) wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:42:56 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>So by not ordering from that company again will that solve the problems you
>>>had with the post office for future deliveries?
>>>
>>Yes. I switched to BossTools http://www.bosstoolsupply.com who carry the same
>>stuff as the other company and deliver to my door...cheaper as well.
>
>Not much overlap there. I wonder if you weren't thinking of House of
>Tools rather than Lee Valley.
>
I just mentioned BossTools because I have spent a bundle with them lately.
Much of the stuff I was buying from Lee Valley I get from either KMS tools or a
local hardwood supply store.

Much of my Lee Valley purchases were purely impulse and not stuff I needed.
Lot's of kitchen stuff, garden stuff, watches, cool flashlights, etc. For gifts
mostly.
I bought 3 boxes of veneer that I loved and haven't seen elsewhere so I will be
ordering a couple more soon.
I'm considering that Lee Valley vacuum press kit even though 72 bucks seems high
for a plastic bag <g> but I haven't seen anything else like it.

Has anyone ever used it?

>Ken Muldrew
>[email protected]
>(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

(snip)

> BTW Rob if you are reading.
> You could do worse then adding a page to the website for customers to post
their
> experiences and or how to's with their purchases.
> I'd be happy just to read the positive ones if they give insight into
using the
> tool.
> Lee Valley Reps are good but not intimately familiar with every product.

Hi Jimmy -

Yes - we've thought about that - but it's a maintenance/moderation
nightmare; we'd have to edit for accuracy (can't let bad information stand),
and monitor content....

There're lots of BB's out there for that purpose...

Cheers -

Rob

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:35:29 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>So... this is the way it is and the way it has been for quite a while in
>Canada. That just makes the OP's original post (whine) all the more
>ludicrous. He comes to a woodworking

Listen moron, EVERYTHING I order now is delivered to my door by courier.
From Mark's Work Warehouse, to Staples, Office Depot, City Chef, Boss tools, and
several others. Most are FREE delivery for large enough orders as well.

On 9 Apr 2006 10:30:09 -0600, D Smith <[email protected]> wrote:


>I have no idea whether that is their policy, or because the Post Office
>usually won't accept delivery from them. I know of one Post Office that
>will accept delivery from other couriers if you send it to their street
>address, but that could be against policy...

The US post offices I know *can't* put something in a PO box without
postage. For instance, I can't walk in and hand the clerk of the
small office a letter, and ask him to put in a PO box 6 feet away,
without postage.

I can't see how Canada would be different.

_Private_ mail boxes, like Mail Boxes Etc... (UPS Store) are a whole
'nuther nut, because they are really "PO Boxes", but actually a
receiving service.

Barry

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:53:45 -0400, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>all of which has absolutely nothing to do
>with woodworking, and you call me a moron?

Yes.
Anyone who replies to a thread about a subject he has no interest in just to
BITCH and Whine about it is a MORON.