I finally decided to take the plunge and get a unit to clean the air in the
shop, in addition to my Dust Collector. Since Steel City has a nice unit
on sale, I decided to go for it.
When the unit arrived all looked good. Unpacked the unit and read the
instructions. Removed the packing foam and started to install the hanging
eye bolts. Someone had gotten a little carried away in putting the screws
into the eye bolt holes (why screws you have to remove to install the eye
bolt? Probably to seal the unit if you do not used the bolts.) One of the
fittings came lose in the unit, but the eye bolt would still install and
snug down with the locking nut (pinch fashion). The instructions said to
mount it at least seven feet above the floor and since it weights about 55
pounds, I hooked up the coffin hoist and attached it to the eyebolts. The
mountings for two of the four eye bolts bent in the sheet metal, but did
not come out. But while I had it hanging, and before I got it in the final
location, I hit the power button. The squirrel cage was jammed against the
housing. I checked the motor mount and it had been hit hard enough to bend
it, though the box did not show any impact damage. I gently straightened
the motor mount and hit the switch. The squirrel cage spun free but had a
rather severe vibration.
At this point, I called the folks I bought it from and (this is the good
part of the story) got a treatment you would not believe.
Woodworker's Supply not only changed out the unit but sent a pick up via UPS
and will send the replacement unit as soon as it is in stock, probably
tomorrow.
Bottom line, the unit is probably good, but very fragile (case is made of
much too thin a gauge metal). DO NOT hoist it by the eye bolts. As far as
mounting it by them once you get it lifted up to the mounting point, don't
know, haven't gotten that far. I do know that when the replacement
arrives, I will bench test it and IF it passes I will gently lift it into
position and let it sit on a couple of 1x6's. The eye bolts will stay in
the bag.
Deb
"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I finally decided to take the plunge and get a unit to clean the air in
> the
> shop, in addition to my Dust Collector. Since Steel City has a nice unit
> on sale, I decided to go for it.
>
> When the unit arrived all looked good. Unpacked the unit and read the
> instructions. Removed the packing foam and started to install the hanging
> eye bolts. Someone had gotten a little carried away in putting the screws
> into the eye bolt holes (why screws you have to remove to install the eye
> bolt? Probably to seal the unit if you do not used the bolts.) One of
> the
> fittings came lose in the unit, but the eye bolt would still install and
> snug down with the locking nut (pinch fashion). The instructions said to
> mount it at least seven feet above the floor and since it weights about 55
> pounds, I hooked up the coffin hoist and attached it to the eyebolts. The
> mountings for two of the four eye bolts bent in the sheet metal, but did
> not come out. But while I had it hanging, and before I got it in the
> final
> location, I hit the power button. The squirrel cage was jammed against
> the
> housing. I checked the motor mount and it had been hit hard enough to
> bend
> it, though the box did not show any impact damage. I gently straightened
> the motor mount and hit the switch. The squirrel cage spun free but had a
> rather severe vibration.
>
> At this point, I called the folks I bought it from and (this is the good
> part of the story) got a treatment you would not believe.
>
> Woodworker's Supply not only changed out the unit but sent a pick up via
> UPS
> and will send the replacement unit as soon as it is in stock, probably
> tomorrow.
>
>
> Bottom line, the unit is probably good, but very fragile (case is made of
> much too thin a gauge metal). DO NOT hoist it by the eye bolts. As far
> as
> mounting it by them once you get it lifted up to the mounting point, don't
> know, haven't gotten that far. I do know that when the replacement
> arrives, I will bench test it and IF it passes I will gently lift it into
> position and let it sit on a couple of 1x6's. The eye bolts will stay in
> the bag.
>
I have had similar experiences. An alternative mounting method is to use
vinyl coverd cable or nylon straps. I have done both.
<[email protected]> wrote
I've had the Grizzly unit for 8 or so years. I'm re-mounting it soon.
Previously it hung on chains
and there was some vibration transmission. Did you notice a
difference in vibration transmission
between the straps and the cable? I don't have much vibration but if
using straps will deaden it
further that may be the way to go.
=================================
I haven't really tested one hanging method over another in terms of
vibration. Perhaps a spring installed on the chain/cable?
I was speaking in terms of installing many things with the cable/straps. I
have a cable cutter, swaging tool, cable and swages. Soooooo......, that is
what I use and is an easy solution for me.
I have three in my shop and they are all hanging from
dog chain and eye hooks. Delta 50-860's and that's
the way they recommended hanging them.
Since Steel City is a bunch of ex-Delta folks, I
would expect a VERY similar product. If they are
bending that easy, I would consider a different
product.
http://www.amazon.com/JDS-750-ER-Filtration-Electrostatic-Pre-Filter/dp/B0000302XS
http://www.amazon.com/708620B-AFS-1000B-Filtration-Electrostatic-Pre-Filter/dp/B00004R9LO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1234210163&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/DELTA-AP200-Shopmaster-Filtration-System/dp/B00006K008/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1234210163&sr=1-4
One thing I noticed in all those descriptions.... Some of
them are called "bench top" air cleaners...
Is that Steel City a "bench top" per chance ?
I notice Woodworkers is also no longer carrying that product line ???
Dr. Deb wrote:
>
> I finally decided to take the plunge and get a unit to clean the air in the
> shop, in addition to my Dust Collector. Since Steel City has a nice unit
> on sale, I decided to go for it.
Snipped the bad part.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
difference in vibration transmission
between the straps and the cable? I don't have much vibration but if
using straps will deaden it
further that may be the way to go.
How about plastic wrapped steel cable?
"Dr. Deb" wrote
> I finally decided to take the plunge and get a unit to clean the air in
> the
> shop, in addition to my Dust Collector. Since Steel City has a nice unit
> on sale, I decided to go for it.
<snip>
> Bottom line, the unit is probably good, but very fragile (case is made of
> much too thin a gauge metal). DO NOT hoist it by the eye bolts. As far
> as
> mounting it by them once you get it lifted up to the mounting point, don't
> know, haven't gotten that far. I do know that when the replacement
> arrives, I will bench test it and IF it passes I will gently lift it into
> position and let it sit on a couple of 1x6's. The eye bolts will stay in
> the bag.
Interesting and topical ... I got a Wilton for Christmas that has been
sitting on the shop bench since. The instructions sound eerily identical
(probably made in the same factory). My plan was to install it tomorrow,
which is really the first opportunity since I've been more out of town, than
in, lately.
I'll be taking your experience into account while doing so.
Thanks ...
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Feb 8, 9:11=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
>
> > I finally decided to take the plunge and get a unit to clean the air in
> > the
> > shop, in addition to my Dust Collector. =A0Since Steel City has a nice =
unit
> > on sale, I decided to go for it.
>
> > When the unit arrived all looked good. =A0Unpacked the unit and read th=
e
> > instructions. =A0Removed the packing foam and started to install the ha=
nging
> > eye bolts. =A0Someone had gotten a little carried away in putting the s=
crews
> > into the eye bolt holes (why screws you have to remove to install the e=
ye
> > bolt? =A0Probably to seal the unit if you do not used the bolts.) =A0On=
e of
> > the
> > fittings came lose in the unit, but the eye bolt would still install an=
d
> > snug down with the locking nut (pinch fashion). =A0The instructions sai=
d to
> > mount it at least seven feet above the floor and since it weights about=
55
> > pounds, I hooked up the coffin hoist and attached it to the eyebolts. =
=A0The
> > mountings for two of the four eye bolts bent in the sheet metal, but di=
d
> > not come out. =A0But while I had it hanging, and before I got it in the
> > final
> > location, I hit the power button. =A0The squirrel cage was jammed again=
st
> > the
> > housing. =A0I checked the motor mount and it had been hit hard enough t=
o
> > bend
> > it, though the box did not show any impact damage. =A0I gently straight=
ened
> > the motor mount and hit the switch. =A0The squirrel cage spun free but =
had a
> > rather severe vibration.
>
> > At this point, I called the folks I bought it from and (this is the goo=
d
> > part of the story) got a treatment you would not believe.
>
> > Woodworker's Supply not only changed out the unit but sent a pick up vi=
a
> > UPS
> > and will send the replacement unit as soon as it is in stock, probably
> > tomorrow.
>
> > Bottom line, the unit is probably good, but very fragile (case is made =
of
> > much too thin a gauge metal). =A0DO NOT hoist it by the eye bolts. =A0A=
s far
> > as
> > mounting it by them once you get it lifted up to the mounting point, do=
n't
> > know, haven't gotten that far. =A0I do know that when the replacement
> > arrives, I will bench test it and IF it passes I will gently lift it in=
to
> > position and let it sit on a couple of 1x6's. =A0The eye bolts will sta=
y in
> > the bag.
>
> I have had similar experiences. =A0An alternative mounting method is to u=
se
> vinyl coverd cable or nylon straps. =A0I have done both.
I've had the Grizzly unit for 8 or so years. I'm re-mounting it soon.
Previously it hung on chains
and there was some vibration transmission. Did you notice a
difference in vibration transmission
between the straps and the cable? I don't have much vibration but if
using straps will deaden it
further that may be the way to go.
hex
-30-
Hey Deb, Others,
When I installed my Delta "air freshener" a few years ago I was lucky
enough to have saved the shipping crate that my 8 inch jointer came
in. It was the perfect height and sturdy enough to use as a staging
platform for attaching the eyebolts to the chains hanging from my
joists. I steadied the crate to the adjacent wall with a firring
strip and setthe air cleaner on top , and within a few minutes had it
hanging securely.
Not everyone will have the right size shipping crate on hand but as
you cited, 2X 6 and maybe a little plywood and you're good to go.
Does the Steel city have a remote? I stopped using my remote so I
need to give my air cleaner the high five now when I operate it.
Marc
On Feb 8, 10:01=A0pm, "Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I finally decided to take the plunge and get a unit to clean the air in t=
he
> shop, in addition to my Dust Collector. =A0Since Steel City has a nice un=
it
> on sale, I decided to go for it.
>
> When the unit arrived all looked good. =A0Unpacked the unit and read the
> instructions. =A0Removed the packing foam and started to install the hang=
ing
> eye bolts. =A0Someone had gotten a little carried away in putting the scr=
ews
> into the eye bolt holes (why screws you have to remove to install the eye
> bolt? =A0Probably to seal the unit if you do not used the bolts.) =A0One =
of the
> fittings came lose in the unit, but the eye bolt would still install and
> snug down with the locking nut (pinch fashion). =A0The instructions said =
to
> mount it at least seven feet above the floor and since it weights about 5=
5
> pounds, I hooked up the coffin hoist and attached it to the eyebolts. =A0=
The
> mountings for two of the four eye bolts bent in the sheet metal, but did
> not come out. =A0But while I had it hanging, and before I got it in the f=
inal
> location, I hit the power button. =A0The squirrel cage was jammed against=
the
> housing. =A0I checked the motor mount and it had been hit hard enough to =
bend
> it, though the box did not show any impact damage. =A0I gently straighten=
ed
> the motor mount and hit the switch. =A0The squirrel cage spun free but ha=
d a
> rather severe vibration.
>
> At this point, I called the folks I bought it from and (this is the good
> part of the story) got a treatment you would not believe.
>
> Woodworker's Supply not only changed out the unit but sent a pick up via =
UPS
> and will send the replacement unit as soon as it is in stock, probably
> tomorrow.
>
> Bottom line, the unit is probably good, but very fragile (case is made of
> much too thin a gauge metal). =A0DO NOT hoist it by the eye bolts. =A0As =
far as
> mounting it by them once you get it lifted up to the mounting point, don'=
t
> know, haven't gotten that far. =A0I do know that when the replacement
> arrives, I will bench test it and IF it passes I will gently lift it into
> position and let it sit on a couple of 1x6's. =A0The eye bolts will stay =
in
> the bag.
>
> Deb