SKILLSAW - A portable cutting tool used to make boards too short.
BELT SANDER - An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor
touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.
WIRE WHEEL - Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under
the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and
hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to say, 'Oh
shit'. Will easily wind a tee shirt off your back.
DRILL PRESS - A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat
metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings
your beer across the room, denting the freshly-painted project which you had
carefully set in the corner where nothing could get to it.
CHANNEL LOCKS - Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the
creation of blood-blisters.
HACK SAW - One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board
principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and
the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future
becomes.
VISE GRIPS - Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt
heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense
welding heat to the palm of your hand.
OXYACETYLENE TORCH - Used almost entirely for igniting various flammable
objects in your shop and creating a fire. Also handy for igniting the grease
inside the wheel hub out of which you want to remove a bearing race.
TABLE SAW - A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood
projectiles for testing wall integrity. Very effective for digit removal!!
HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK - Used for lowering an automobile to the ground after
you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack handle firmly under
the bumper.
BAND SAW - A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops to
cut large pieces into smaller pieces that more easily fit into the trash after
you cut on the inside of the line instead of the outside edge. Also excels at
amputations.
TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST - A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength of
all the crap you forgot to disconnect.
PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER - Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under lids
or for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil on your shirt;
but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out Phillips screw heads.
STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
PRY BAR - A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or
bracket you needed to remove, in order to replace a 50 cent part.
PVC PIPE CUTTER - A tool used to make plastic pipe too short.
HAMMER - Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is
used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit. Also very effective at fingernail removal.
UTILITY KNIFE - Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard
cartons delivered to your front door. Works particularly well on contents such
as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic bottles, collector magazines, refund
checks, and rubber or plastic parts. Especially useful for slicing work
clothes, but only while in use. These can also be used to initiate a trip to
the emergency room so a doctor can sew up the damage.
SON OF A BITCH TOOL - Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the
garage while yelling 'Son of a bitch' at the top of your lungs. It is also,
most often, the next tool that you will need.
THE TELEPHONE - TO CALL SOMEONE TO DO THE WORK.
On Wed, 3 May 2017 14:48:29 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Had to listen to it all day long. "Hey Robert. you want me to do that? Next
> time you might not get out of the way" and "Robert, if you need me to help
> you figure out how that operation works, let me know... I am available for
> drill lessons" etc. For me, I was a little stunned, a little surprised,
> and a lot embarrassed! (Did I mention I had to hear about the hole in my
>shirt and re-tell the tale all day long?)
So are you adding an extra shirt to the things you now carry to the
job? You know just in case it rains.
On Mon, 8 May 2017 12:02:07 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 5/8/2017 9:25 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert
>>>>> common slotted
>>>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>>>> opening paint cans?
>>>
>>> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
>>> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
>>>
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>>
>> Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
>> up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
>> warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
>> as well. Caveat emptor!
>>
>
>
>Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>bottle opener.
Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
On Mon, 8 May 2017 09:37:42 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/8/2017 9:25 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert
>>>>> common slotted
>>>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>>>> opening paint cans?
>>>
>>> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
>>> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
>>>
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>>
>> Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
>> up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
>> warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
>> as well. Caveat emptor!
>>
>
>
>Sadly, Amazon (with their third party sellers) seems to be going the
>same route as Ebay. It used to be you could generally find great deals
>on Ebay and had to work to find ripoffs. Now it seems the reverse is
>true - in both venues.
I don't trust Ebay. You're dealing *directly* with who knows who.
Amazon has a tighter leash on their sellers.
>Caveat Emptor indeed! There will always be anal pores out there seeking
>to rip off the unwary. Of course, anyone who fails to exercise at least
>some diligence in their shopping likely deserves to be fleeced.
Trust but verify.
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 12:31:29 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >Different strokes. Time is money too.
>
> And if you live, for example, in Lone Tree, Ia. you may not have
> any local alternative.
At first, I read that as Lone Tree, La. I'd never heard of Lone Tree, La.
We gots a Lone Pine, though, pert near Turkey Creek, and they ain't got nuttin in either place, but 'cept a bar, a fried chicken place and a curve in the road, in TC.
Sonny
On Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:33 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>
>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>
>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>
>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>
>Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
>mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
>and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
>
>If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
>that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
>sold at Amazon.
I buy online only what is not available locally. If available locally
I can USUALLY buy for less than online - unless it's something the
local guy is importing from China direct - then I can usually do
better on Flea-Bay - if I don't need it this month. Buying online from
anywhere in North America the shipping kills the deal.
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:05:47 PM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
> WIRE WHEEL - Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere =
under
> the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and
> hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to s=
ay, 'Oh
> shit'. Will easily wind a tee shirt off your back.
I always seem to see a lot of these, and amazingly, they all seem to be a l=
ittle different. And as someone that uses tools for a living, I laugh out =
loud at how true these things can be.
A couple of months ago I chucked up a stiff wire wheel to clean heavy rust =
of a couple of tools that were out in the rain, then spent a month in the r=
ain. Leaning over to really mash hard on teh drill, my shirt drooped over =
the drill/wheel, and it almost pulled my shirt off! As it was, it took a w=
ad of shirt that was about 10" across completely off the shirt.
Had to listen to it all day long. "Hey Robert. you want me to do that? Ne=
xt time you might not get out of the way" and "Robert, if you need me to he=
lp you figure out how that operation works, let me know... I am available f=
or drill lessons" etc. For me, I was a little stunned, a little surprised,=
and a lot embarrassed! (Did I mention I had to hear about the hole in my =
shirt and re-tell the tale all day long?)
=20
> THE TELEPHONE - TO CALL SOMEONE TO DO THE WORK.
I have several clients that have come to that realization. God bless 'em!
Robert
On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 8:24:26 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
>=20
> You would buy paint for the barn from Sherwin Williams?
20-25 yrs ago, we bought the red barn paint from Big Lots, $5 a gallon. Be=
st barn paint we've ever bought. Go figure! The barn, the paint job, sti=
ll looks good, today. Big Lots has products for limited times and I haven'=
t seen that paint, there, since our initial purchase. I always ask about t=
hat paint, but the clerks/managers never know what's to be supplied/stocked=
, next time around.
Sonny
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Generally speaking the product that Consumer Reports hates is the first one
> I check out. So far this policy has served me well and I have come to
> grief whenever I deviated from it.
The visual of you puttering around in a Yugo with a trunk-load of
Black&Decker tools is a bit more than I can stomach this early.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 5/3/2017 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert
>>> common
>>> slotted
>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>
>>
>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>> opening paint cans?
>
> Seriously, YES. Paint stores have them and typically give them away
> with a paint purchase. The better ones have a bottle opener on one
> end.
> ;~)
They work better than a straight screwdriver, too. That's why I keep
track of mine. :-)
Puckdropper
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On 5/8/2017 9:25 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert
>>>> common slotted
>>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>>
>>>
>>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>>> opening paint cans?
>>
>> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
>> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>
> Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
> up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
> warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
> as well. Caveat emptor!
>
Sadly, Amazon (with their third party sellers) seems to be going the
same route as Ebay. It used to be you could generally find great deals
on Ebay and had to work to find ripoffs. Now it seems the reverse is
true - in both venues.
Caveat Emptor indeed! There will always be anal pores out there seeking
to rip off the unwary. Of course, anyone who fails to exercise at least
some diligence in their shopping likely deserves to be fleeced.
On 5/8/2017 11:56 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 8 May 2017 09:37:42 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2017 9:25 AM, Jack wrote:
>>> On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
[snip]
>>
>>
>> Sadly, Amazon (with their third party sellers) seems to be going the
>> same route as Ebay. It used to be you could generally find great deals
>> on Ebay and had to work to find ripoffs. Now it seems the reverse is
>> true - in both venues.
>
> I don't trust Ebay. You're dealing *directly* with who knows who.
> Amazon has a tighter leash on their sellers.
>
>> Caveat Emptor indeed! There will always be anal pores out there seeking
>> to rip off the unwary. Of course, anyone who fails to exercise at least
>> some diligence in their shopping likely deserves to be fleeced.
>
> Trust but verify.
Exactly, and I've been doing business (mainly buying) on Ebay for twenty
years this July and have yet (knock on wood) been stiffed as either a
buyer or seller. One has to check the buyer/seller ratings and use
PayPal to shield yourself. PayPal seems to bend over backwards to
protect buyers often, it's claimed, at the expense of sellers who feel
THEY are victimized by purchasers. I don't know the truth there but. .
. I can say this with a perfectly straight face: Over the two decades
I've dealt with folks on Ebay, I have save a lot of money. Really A
LOT! If I were to send off $2,500 to $3,000 to somebody on Ebay next
week and they take the money and run leaving me with nothing, I would
STILL be ahead of the game. I'd be mightily pissed, but financially,
I'd still be ahead of the game overall.
Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> I haven't checked, but I doubt Home Depot will ship it to your house for
> 48 cents.
>
>
Last I knew, Home Depot has a minimum purchase amount before you get free
shipping. I think it's $35, but it might have changed. They will,
however, ship to store for free.
I'm going to give the ship to store thing a try soon, I'm just waiting for
when I know I'll be near my local store.
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Jack <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> I've only bought a few things off Ebay, but never got burned. A late,
> great friend of mine bought thousands of things off Ebay, and said he
> never once got burned. He's been gone a few years though, so can't
> speak about today. I just know I've lost ALL trust in Amazon. At one
> time you could be sure prices were good, and mainly had to worry about
> shipping. Now prices are often double or triple or more than what you
> can buy elsewhere, so trust is out the window for Amazon.
>
I've had that happen on a few items, but generally speaking Amazon tends to
be lower. If you're one of those smart phone carrying types, just load
Amazon in your phone and take a look--if it's cheaper then go with Amazon.
If not, go elsewhere.
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Markem <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Consumer Reports sell a product, the tests they run are based on some
> standards (but whose).
>
> Just cause it is on the Web and it is on Wikipedia does not mean they
> tested something right.
>
One of my favorite posts was one Robatoy made regarding standards. I've
reposted it below.
Puckdropper
-- Robatoy's Post --
From: Robatoy <[email protected]>
On Mar 25, 10:59=A0pm, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:17:05 -0700, Larry Jaques
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I'm with you, Ed. Quality has to go into the product before
> >consistency. Then the ISO procedures can ensure consistency and,
> >hopefully, quality. Good QA is necessary all along. I saw ISO coming
> >in back when I was an inspector, and hooted as I heard it being pawned
> >off as a quality control procedure. It ain't! (but it helps)
>
> About a dozen years ago, one of my suppliers became ISO9000 with all
> the hoopla. It did make them very consistent. Once certified, they
> f'd up every order until I finally dropped them.
All that hoopla hasn't amounted to a hill of beans with many
suppliers. Wilsonart Canada, for instance, bragged about all those ISO
numbers.
Their delivery system was so incredibly bad that it actually became a
source of humour for us at my shop. They used their own trucks and
sometimes other carriers. They had managed to get 23 shipments in a
period of 6 months, wrong. 23 out of 23. Wrong sinks, Wrong adhesive
colours, Wrong quantities Batting a 1000. Then one day, a truck pulled
up and it had 6 sheets of 12-ft x 30" solid surface, the associated
sinks and adhesives and the whole order was correct. We laughed and
laughed.. they finally got one right.
A half hour after that truck left, another truck, this time their own
truck, pulled in with the identical order on it to the one that was just
delivered.
Now the laughing really started. All was well with the universe, the
spell had not been broken, they screwed up yet again, even by getting it
right...twice!
- - - Posted by Robatoy - - -
On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 4:26:16 PM UTC-5, Markem wrote:
=20
> But then again I have doubts about Consumer Reports ability to be
> objective, has to do with being paid by whom?
>=20
> Could be like beer medals if you show at the show you get a gold
> medal. Which explains how Lite beer got its praise.
All tests are no better than the folks that perform them. The folks that p=
erform them are no better than their adherence to the standards and paramet=
ers they are told to follow. The standards and parameters are designed by =
someone that may or may not be anyone more than a lab guy, no real experien=
ce in the field. =20
With that in mind, I always take tests with a grain of salt, no matter who =
does it. Too many times I believed tests and followed the results if from =
a trusted publication. Now I look at tests as starting points, not much mor=
e than guidelines. If they don't include testing protocols and procedures,=
I don't even read the results or article.
As far as medals and awards go, I use the same skeptical approach. Whose t=
aste buds decided the awards? How many contestants were there competing? =
Did they follow a standardized judging set of rules? Are their standard ru=
les for certain competitions, or are they held just for fun? =20
Could be gold medals are sometimes won if there are few contestants, and th=
e contest (of whatever that might be) has judges that observe nothing more =
than their own personal taste.=20
Robert
On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/8/2017 12:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 May 2017 10:25:42 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>>>
>>> Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
>>> up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
>>> warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
>>> as well. Caveat emptor!
>>
>> I don't buy too many things on Amazon for $.48 (well, screws ;-) but
>> free is even better. Though, I did have to pay $60/gallon for paint
>> (and that was 30% off!) to get them. The sales kid asked "do you want
>> stirrers and openers with that". "At that price for paint, you bet
>> your A$$". ;-)
>>
>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>
>I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>these days than Amazon...
I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
elsewhere.
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 4:48:35 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:05:47 PM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
>=20
> > WIRE WHEEL - Will easily wind a tee shirt off your back.
>=20
> Leaning over to really mash hard on teh drill, my shirt drooped over th=
e drill/wheel, and it almost pulled my shirt off! As it was, it took a wad=
of shirt that was about 10" across completely off the shirt.
>=20
> Robert
Similarly, doing a few chores at Mom's, the disc sander ripped a hole in th=
e belly of my T-shirt. Later, my brother came over and reminded me that Wa=
lmart sells T-shirts, as if I only had torn shirts to wear. I told him th=
at some of us, in this red neck of the woods, distinguish between our work =
T-shirts and our dress T-shirts.
Sonny
[email protected] writes:
> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Spalted Walt wrote:
>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>
>>
>>This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>>opening paint cans?
>>As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
>>handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
>>use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
>>guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
>>>
> Can openers, often part of a bottle opener - sometimes referred to
> as a "church key"
A 16d nail works at least as well -- stick the edge of the head under the lip
of the lid, and pull back on the point.
--
On Tue, 9 May 2017 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 4:26:16 PM UTC-5, Markem wrote:
>
>> But then again I have doubts about Consumer Reports ability to be
>> objective, has to do with being paid by whom?
>>
>> Could be like beer medals if you show at the show you get a gold
>> medal. Which explains how Lite beer got its praise.
> reformatted as agent does not like google groups when I qoute.
"All tests are no better than the folks that perform them. The folks
that perform them are no better than their adherence to the standards
and parameters they are told to follow. The standards and parameters
are designed by someone that may or may not be anyone more than a lab
guy, no real experience in the field.
With that in mind, I always take tests with a grain of salt, no matter
who does it. Too many times I believed tests and followed the results
if from a trusted publication. Now I look at tests as starting points,
not much more than guidelines. If they don't include testing
protocols and procedures, I don't even read the results or article.
As far as medals and awards go, I use the same skeptical approach.
Whose taste buds decided the awards? How many contestants were there
competing? Did they follow a standardized judging set of rules? Are
their standard rules for certain competitions, or are they held just
for fun? "
Could be gold medals are sometimes won if there are few contestants,
and the contest (of whatever that might be) has judges that observe
nothing more than their own personal taste.
>Robert
From talking to the local brewers and wine folk, if you enter the
product in the sponsors show you will get an award.
As far as paint goes in do not buy the formulation that HD or Lowe's
or Menards sells, I do buy SW based upon that I can do two coats and
cover, the amount of titanium dioxide is the key from what I have
learn, having someone who deals in paint and is knowledgeable
priceless.
That bit about SW I learned from you Robert thanks.
On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:07:33 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>>> bottle opener.
>>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>>> use 2 coats?
>> As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
>> it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
>> double.
>>
>> And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
>> after it's up (probably this fall).
>>
>
>I've got a mini-barn to re-paint this year (tan). Any reason not to get
>my paint from Menards?
If you like painting, go for it.
On 5/3/2017 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
> Spalted Walt wrote:
>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common
>> slotted
>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>
>
> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
> opening paint cans?
> As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
> handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
> use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
> guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
>>
>
If I'm painting (or doing most anything else around the house) I have a
5-in-1 tool handy. The handle provides plenty of leverage, the square
corner fits easily under a can lid to pop it without chewing it up.
http://www.ronhazelton.com/tips/how_to_use_a_5-in-1_painting_tool
I like to keep the two beveled edges and the point quite sharp.
On 5/8/2017 10:31 PM, Bill wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>> bottle opener.
>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>
> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
> use 2 coats?
>
Sw paint is pretty good. Good paint last much longer and equally as
important it is easier to work with. I buy their best every time.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> Jack wrote:
> > On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Spalted Walt wrote:
> >>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
> >>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert
> >>>> common slotted
> >>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
> >>> opening paint cans?
> >>
> >> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
> >> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
> >>
> >> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
> >
> > Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot...
>
> I haven't checked, but I doubt Home Depot will ship it to your house for
> 48 cents.
So? Most of us live close enough to a Home Depot that it's no burden to
drop in and pick one up. Of course if you live in the boondocks . . .
> > Seems most things I look up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much
> > of it WAY overpriced. I warned my family and friends about this, and
> > might as well warn yins all as well. Caveat emptor!
Amazon prices aren't really much better than the local stores anymore.
Sometimes they aren't as good.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Markem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 09 May 2017 20:06:11 +0000, Spalted Walt
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> [email protected] wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
> > >> >> bottle opener.
> > >> > Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
> > >> > normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
> > >>
> > >> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good?
> > >
> > >Not according to CR:
> > >
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hqFR8yANA
> >
> > But then again I have doubts about Consumer Reports ability to be
> > objective, has to do with being paid by whom?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Reports
Yeah, we all know what Consumer Reports is, a bunch of well meaning but
marginally competent do-gooders coming up with ridiculous tests that have
little to do with the utility of the products that they test.
Generally speaking the product that Consumer Reports hates is the first one
I check out. So far this policy has served me well and I have come to
grief whenever I deviated from it.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Generally speaking the product that Consumer Reports hates is the first one
> > I check out. So far this policy has served me well and I have come to
> > grief whenever I deviated from it.
>
> The visual of you puttering around in a Yugo with a trunk-load of
> Black&Decker tools is a bit more than I can stomach this early.
If that's the visual you come up with you should actually read Consumer
Reports for a while.
[email protected] writes:
>On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>
>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>
>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>> elsewhere.
>>
>>I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>that case I usually buy locally.
>
>Different strokes. Time is money too.
And if you live, for example, in Lone Tree, Ia. you may not have
any local alternative.
On 5/8/2017 9:25 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert
>>>> common slotted
>>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>>
>>>
>>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>>> opening paint cans?
>>
>> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
>> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>
> Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
> up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
> warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
> as well. Caveat emptor!
>
Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
bottle opener.
On 5/3/2017 2:22 PM, Bill wrote:
> Spalted Walt wrote:
>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common
>> slotted
>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>
>
> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
> opening paint cans?
Seriously, YES. Paint stores have them and typically give them away
with a paint purchase. The better ones have a bottle opener on one end.
;~)
> As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
> handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
> use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
> guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
>>
>
Straight blade screw drivers are good for stirring gel stains and
varnishes. :~)
On 5/11/2017 12:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:33 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>>
>>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>>
>> Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
>> mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
>> and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
>>
>> If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
>> that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
>> sold at Amazon.
> I buy online only what is not available locally. If available locally
> I can USUALLY buy for less than online - unless it's something the
> local guy is importing from China direct - then I can usually do
> better on Flea-Bay - if I don't need it this month. Buying online from
> anywhere in North America the shipping kills the deal.
>
True, now how can China send that part for free at their cost, and here
it is more and shipped for ridiculously more. I ordered something the
other day, shipping ranged from 9, to 29. It fit in a USPS small flat
rate box. ..... from China it would have been free. How can it be free
from China, it cost more to ship it here, than they wanted for the part?
Don't they have to pay our postal system something for delivering
(interpostal costs)?
--
Jeff
Markem <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 09 May 2017 20:06:11 +0000, Spalted Walt
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
> >> >> bottle opener.
> >> > Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
> >> > normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
> >>
> >> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good?
> >
> >Not according to CR:
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hqFR8yANA
>
> But then again I have doubts about Consumer Reports ability to be
> objective, has to do with being paid by whom?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Reports
On Wed, 10 May 2017 17:31:27 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>>On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>
>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>
>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>>I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>>many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>>reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>>that case I usually buy locally.
>>
>>Different strokes. Time is money too.
>
>And if you live, for example, in Lone Tree, Ia. you may not have
>any local alternative.
I certainly don't live in E. Bumf and can't find the variety that I
can find on Amazon and certainly not in one place. Often I can, so I
buy locally. Tools are rarely a deal on Amazon, likely because the
margin on tools in so low to begin with (and those that may have a
larger margin are price controlled).
On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>> bottle opener.
>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>
>You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>use 2 coats?
As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
double.
And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
after it's up (probably this fall).
On Thu, 11 May 2017 16:49:05 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/11/2017 1:49 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:33 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>>>
>>>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>>>
>>> Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
>>> mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
>>> and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
>>>
>>> If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
>>> that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
>>> sold at Amazon.
>>
>> Go back to sleep.
>>
>And miss your moronic posts... Why?
You miss the point by a few states, so why not?
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 11:49:27 PM UTC-4, Larry Kraus wrote:
> On 5/3/2017 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
> > Spalted Walt wrote:
> >> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
> >> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common
> >> slotted
> >> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
> >
> >
> > This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
> > opening paint cans?
> > As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
> > handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
> > use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
> > guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
> >>
> >
>
> If I'm painting (or doing most anything else around the house) I have a
> 5-in-1 tool handy. The handle provides plenty of leverage, the square
> corner fits easily under a can lid to pop it without chewing it up.
>
> http://www.ronhazelton.com/tips/how_to_use_a_5-in-1_painting_tool
>
> I like to keep the two beveled edges and the point quite sharp.
+1 for the Five in One. Can't live without it when painting/prepping-- I also keep one in my 'general' tool box and it tends to be in my pocket on most jobs, regardless of whether I'm finishing or tinkering.
On the other hand, the alleged "paint can opener" is only good for the church key!
Slainte.
On Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:33 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>
>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>
>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>
>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>
>Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
>mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
>and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
>
>If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
>that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
>sold at Amazon.
Go back to sleep.
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 6:10:10 PM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
=20
> I've been a eBay buyer since '99 and have bought close to ~400 items.
> There've been 4 or 5 occasions I didn't receive my purchase and the
> seller wouldn't respond, or was giving me the runaround.
> I never had _any_ problem with the eBay/paypal reimbursement process,
> always swift and painless.
My experience as well. Granted, it isn't the national garage sale it used =
to be, but it still has its value to me.
20 years ago (pre PayPal!)I used to buy saw blades, older tools, tool parts=
, and tool oddities. I bought a saw that had been in someone's garage for =
about 20 years for a great deal about 15 years ago. I still use it on occa=
sion. The reason I bought it was because it had been out of production for=
many years, but it was the same saw I bought in 1976 when I bought my firs=
t heavy duty, professional saw.
There used to be a thriving community of folks that were buying overruns, s=
econds, closeouts and even inventory from closed businesses. No idea how m=
any circular saw blades, jug saw blades, recip saw blades I bought. Those d=
ays are gone, though.
Still, just about three weeks ago I got a really nice set of older Stanley =
butt chisels. I love those, as well as the older short handled Sears butt =
chisels. They are perfect for me as the round handles are easy to grip and=
manipulate when not using a hammer/mallet. Also, the steel is soft enough=
to recover from hitting a nail or hard knot, and I touch them up on a sand=
er on site if I need to, and can get a great edge with 320g on site. Check=
it out:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Stanley-Steel-Cap-chisel-4-piece-set-Lot-NO=
-60-/122478990336?hash=3Ditem1c84511400:g:YnkAAOSwT-FZCxI3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lot-Of-8-Stanley-Professional-Chisels-U-S-A=
-/172660565358?hash=3Ditem28335f256e:g:hicAAOSwtGlZC8r4
I am pretty patient, and don't usually pay more than 6 bucks for them, and =
as little as about $3.50. Lots of life in these old chisels, and I buy som=
e of them that need some help, with regrinding and re-edging.
Now I am buying cameras that I use in my business to do inspection reports.=
I usually pay about .25 on the dollar, and sometimes they are immaculate,=
in the box it came in and with all accessories. Why so cheap? Folks have=
no need for a digital camera, no matter how fully featured it might be. T=
heir super duper smart phone takes better pics than many digital cameras, b=
etter movies, and awards the user with instant gratification of being able =
to post and enjoy.
I have four of the camera I favor so I can keep one around at all times. T=
he last one I bought at the first of this year came and didn't work 100% as=
if new. The seller contacted me immediately, and offered my money back wi=
th shipping. When I didn't respond in about 18 hours, he sent my money bac=
k to PayPal. In the end, I found an inexpensive fix, he paid for it, and I=
sent him the difference.
Sure, you can get burned. But as said above, with the right technique and =
some patience there are still some good deals to be had.
Robert
On Tue, 9 May 2017 21:23:13 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:07:33 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>>>>> bottle opener.
>>>>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>>>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>>>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>>>>> use 2 coats?
>>>> As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
>>>> it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
>>>> double.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
>>>> after it's up (probably this fall).
>>>>
>>> I've got a mini-barn to re-paint this year (tan). Any reason not to get
>>> my paint from Menards?
>> If you like painting, go for it.
>>
>
>You would buy paint for the barn from Sherwin Williams?
I guess it depends on how long I expected to keep the barn and what I
wanted it to look like. A lot of barns don't get painted (or haven't
been in 50 years). Because it's a barn doesn't mean it less work to
paint.
On Thu, 11 May 2017 20:09:28 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 5/11/2017 12:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:33 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>>>
>>>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>>>
>>> Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
>>> mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
>>> and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
>>>
>>> If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
>>> that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
>>> sold at Amazon.
>> I buy online only what is not available locally. If available locally
>> I can USUALLY buy for less than online - unless it's something the
>> local guy is importing from China direct - then I can usually do
>> better on Flea-Bay - if I don't need it this month. Buying online from
>> anywhere in North America the shipping kills the deal.
>>
>
>True, now how can China send that part for free at their cost, and here
>it is more and shipped for ridiculously more. I ordered something the
>other day, shipping ranged from 9, to 29. It fit in a USPS small flat
>rate box. ..... from China it would have been free. How can it be free
>from China, it cost more to ship it here, than they wanted for the part?
>Don't they have to pay our postal system something for delivering
>(interpostal costs)?
Short answer: The US government subsidizes mail from China
Slightly longer answer: Shipping rates are set by treaty. The
recipient gets screwed.
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Spalted Walt wrote:
> > STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
> > A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
> > screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>
>
> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
> opening paint cans?
> As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
> handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
> use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
> guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
> >
For cans:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-Can-and-Bottle-Opener-CBO-HDL/206794609
For 5 gal buckets
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-GALLON-BUCKET-PAINT-CAN-PAIL-OPENER-LID-OPENING-TOOL-/261967809046
On Mon, 8 May 2017 10:25:42 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
>>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>>
>>>
>>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>>> opening paint cans?
>>
>> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
>> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>
>Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
>up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
>warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
>as well. Caveat emptor!
I don't buy too many things on Amazon for $.48 (well, screws ;-) but
free is even better. Though, I did have to pay $60/gallon for paint
(and that was 30% off!) to get them. The sales kid asked "do you want
stirrers and openers with that". "At that price for paint, you bet
your A$$". ;-)
Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
On Tue, 09 May 2017 20:06:11 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>> >> bottle opener.
>> > Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>> > normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>
>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good?
>
>Not according to CR:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hqFR8yANA
But then again I have doubts about Consumer Reports ability to be
objective, has to do with being paid by whom?
Could be like beer medals if you show at the show you get a gold
medal. Which explains how Lite beer got its praise.
On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Spalted Walt wrote:
>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>
>
>This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>opening paint cans?
Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
<https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
>handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
>use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
>guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
>>
That's usually what I use. I can never find the openers. ;-)
Spalted Walt wrote:
> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
opening paint cans?
As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
>
On Wed, 10 May 2017 18:28:08 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 21:23:13 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:07:33 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>>>>>>> bottle opener.
>>>>>>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>>>>>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>>>>>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>>>>>>> use 2 coats?
>>>>>> As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
>>>>>> it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
>>>>>> double.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
>>>>>> after it's up (probably this fall).
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've got a mini-barn to re-paint this year (tan). Any reason not to get
>>>>> my paint from Menards?
>>>> If you like painting, go for it.
>>>>
>>> You would buy paint for the barn from Sherwin Williams?
>> I guess it depends on how long I expected to keep the barn and what I
>> wanted it to look like. A lot of barns don't get painted (or haven't
>> been in 50 years). Because it's a barn doesn't mean it less work to
>> paint.
>
>About 12 feet long, no windows: I'd be surprised if it takes me 3 hours
>for each coat. I'll wash it with a hose and a brush the day before.
>Gosh, now, I'm almost committed! ; )
That's a shed! ;-) If the old paint just wears off, it'll be no issue
painting. If it starts blistering and peeling, scraping can be a lot
of work. I'd probably stain it rather than paint because it tends not
to blister but I'd still use decent stain.
Make sure it's *good* and dry.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2017 18:28:08 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 21:23:13 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:07:33 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>>>>>>>> bottle opener.
>>>>>>>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>>>>>>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>>>>>>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>>>>>>>> use 2 coats?
>>>>>>> As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
>>>>>>> it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
>>>>>>> double.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
>>>>>>> after it's up (probably this fall).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got a mini-barn to re-paint this year (tan). Any reason not to get
>>>>>> my paint from Menards?
>>>>> If you like painting, go for it.
>>>>>
>>>> You would buy paint for the barn from Sherwin Williams?
>>> I guess it depends on how long I expected to keep the barn and what I
>>> wanted it to look like. A lot of barns don't get painted (or haven't
>>> been in 50 years). Because it's a barn doesn't mean it less work to
>>> paint.
>> About 12 feet long, no windows: I'd be surprised if it takes me 3 hours
>> for each coat. I'll wash it with a hose and a brush the day before.
>> Gosh, now, I'm almost committed! ; )
> That's a shed! ;-) If the old paint just wears off, it'll be no issue
> painting. If it starts blistering and peeling, scraping can be a lot
> of work.
It's been painted, but there is no blistering or peeling. I've owned it
for 8 years, and I didn't paint it the last/first time. I agree,
scraping can be a lot of work. I helped my dad "torch" a garage
once--that took FAR MORE hours than it did to paint it. Maybe that was
even in the "mistake" category...
> I'd probably stain it rather than paint because it tends not
> to blister but I'd still use decent stain.
>
> Make sure it's *good* and dry.
>
Spalted Walt wrote:
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>
>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>> opening paint cans?
>> As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
>> handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
>> use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
>> guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
>>>
> For cans:
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-Can-and-Bottle-Opener-CBO-HDL/206794609
Thank you, I have run across a few of those in the past. I don't
remember ever using one. Maybe there is a YouTube video... ; )
Bill
>
> For 5 gal buckets
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-GALLON-BUCKET-PAINT-CAN-PAIL-OPENER-LID-OPENING-TOOL-/261967809046
>
Sonny wrote:
>
> Similarly, doing a few chores at Mom's, the disc sander ripped a hole in the belly of my T-shirt. Later, my brother came over and reminded me that Walmart sells T-shirts, as if I only had torn shirts to wear. I told him that some of us, in this red neck of the woods, distinguish between our work T-shirts and our dress T-shirts.
>
> Sonny
>
Ha! : )
On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>
>>
>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>> opening paint cans?
>
> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
as well. Caveat emptor!
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
Jack wrote:
> On 5/3/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Spalted Walt wrote:
>>>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>>>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert
>>>> common slotted
>>>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>>>
>>>
>>> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>>> opening paint cans?
>>
>> Sure. Paint stores used to give them away. They look like a metal
>> bottle opener with a curved straight blade.
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>
> Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot...
I haven't checked, but I doubt Home Depot will ship it to your house for
48 cents.
> Seems most things I look up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much
> of it WAY overpriced. I warned my family and friends about this, and
> might as well warn yins all as well. Caveat emptor!
>
[email protected] wrote:
>
>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>> bottle opener.
> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
use 2 coats?
On 5/8/2017 12:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 8 May 2017 10:25:42 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Paint-Can-Bottle-Opener-Bulk/dp/B001VEC63I>
>>
>> Nice. $4 at Amazon, 48 cents at Home Depot... Seems most things I look
>> up at Amazon is overpriced these days, much of it WAY overpriced. I
>> warned my family and friends about this, and might as well warn yins all
>> as well. Caveat emptor!
>
> I don't buy too many things on Amazon for $.48 (well, screws ;-) but
> free is even better. Though, I did have to pay $60/gallon for paint
> (and that was 30% off!) to get them. The sales kid asked "do you want
> stirrers and openers with that". "At that price for paint, you bet
> your A$$". ;-)
>
> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
these days than Amazon...
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 5/8/2017 2:18 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> On 5/8/2017 11:56 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I don't trust Ebay. You're dealing *directly* with who knows who.
>> Amazon has a tighter leash on their sellers.
>>
>>> Caveat Emptor indeed! There will always be anal pores out there seeking
>>> to rip off the unwary. Of course, anyone who fails to exercise at least
>>> some diligence in their shopping likely deserves to be fleeced.
>>
>> Trust but verify.
> Exactly, and I've been doing business (mainly buying) on Ebay for twenty
> years this July and have yet (knock on wood) been stiffed as either a
> buyer or seller. One has to check the buyer/seller ratings and use
> PayPal to shield yourself. PayPal seems to bend over backwards to
> protect buyers often, it's claimed, at the expense of sellers who feel
> THEY are victimized by purchasers. I don't know the truth there but. .
> . I can say this with a perfectly straight face: Over the two decades
> I've dealt with folks on Ebay, I have save a lot of money. Really A
> LOT! If I were to send off $2,500 to $3,000 to somebody on Ebay next
> week and they take the money and run leaving me with nothing, I would
> STILL be ahead of the game. I'd be mightily pissed, but financially,
> I'd still be ahead of the game overall.
I've only bought a few things off Ebay, but never got burned. A late,
great friend of mine bought thousands of things off Ebay, and said he
never once got burned. He's been gone a few years though, so can't speak
about today. I just know I've lost ALL trust in Amazon. At one time
you could be sure prices were good, and mainly had to worry about
shipping. Now prices are often double or triple or more than what you
can buy elsewhere, so trust is out the window for Amazon.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 5/9/2017 6:36 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> Amazon prices aren't really much better than the local stores anymore.
> Sometimes they aren't as good.
Their prices, excluding shipping, should ALWAYS be better than local
stores. They have almost no overhead compared to say, Home Depot, that
has a couple thousand large stores filled with employee's, thieves and
so on. Now, they seem to be just a sales outlet for every Tom, DICK and
Harry who rip you off on price or shipping or most likely, both.
I once bought a lathe chuck from Amazon. I looked around a little
first, but trusted Amazon at the time. When I got it, turned out it was
in a Harbor Freight box. Looked up the HF number on the box, and there
it was, about $4 cheaper, but about $9 cheaper including shipping.
Still, I didn't mind too much, but that was a good while ago. Now, it
seems way too often the prices are in multiples of 2, 3 and more of what
can be easily found elsewhere. Stupid pricing really and one would be
best not trusting them at all.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
[email protected] wrote:
> My experience as well. Granted, it isn't the national garage sale it used to be, but it still has its value to me.
>
I have got some new auto parts on e-bay faster than the dealer could get
them for me, and at a fraction of the cost ($40 instead of $100). And,
they were shipped to me at home.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>> bottle opener.
>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>> use 2 coats?
> As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
> it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
> double.
>
> And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
> after it's up (probably this fall).
>
I've got a mini-barn to re-paint this year (tan). Any reason not to get
my paint from Menards?
Bill
[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:07:33 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>>>> bottle opener.
>>>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>>>> use 2 coats?
>>> As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
>>> it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
>>> double.
>>>
>>> And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
>>> after it's up (probably this fall).
>>>
>> I've got a mini-barn to re-paint this year (tan). Any reason not to get
>> my paint from Menards?
> If you like painting, go for it.
>
You would buy paint for the barn from Sherwin Williams?
On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>
>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>> these days than Amazon...
>
> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
> elsewhere.
I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
that case I usually buy locally.
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com
[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 9 May 2017 21:23:13 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 19:07:33 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:31:57 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>>>>>> bottle opener.
>>>>>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>>>>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>>>>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>>>>>> use 2 coats?
>>>>> As much work as it is to paint, I'm not about to go cheap on it. If
>>>>> it's easier to put up, or lasts another year, it's worth more than
>>>>> double.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, I'll use two coats. One before I put the siding up and one
>>>>> after it's up (probably this fall).
>>>>>
>>>> I've got a mini-barn to re-paint this year (tan). Any reason not to get
>>>> my paint from Menards?
>>> If you like painting, go for it.
>>>
>> You would buy paint for the barn from Sherwin Williams?
> I guess it depends on how long I expected to keep the barn and what I
> wanted it to look like. A lot of barns don't get painted (or haven't
> been in 50 years). Because it's a barn doesn't mean it less work to
> paint.
About 12 feet long, no windows: I'd be surprised if it takes me 3 hours
for each coat. I'll wash it with a hose and a brush the day before.
Gosh, now, I'm almost committed! ; )
On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>
>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>
>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>> elsewhere.
>>
>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>> that case I usually buy locally.
>
> Different strokes. Time is money too.
Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
sold at Amazon.
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com
On 5/10/2017 1:31 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> [email protected] writes:
>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>
>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>
>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>
>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>
> And if you live, for example, in Lone Tree, Ia. you may not have
> any local alternative.
>
Even if you live in Lone Tree, you can very often find a boatload of
internet sites that sell the same thing, and lately, more often than
not, at a better price, much better. So, even if you are in the small
percentage of Americans that don't live a short drive to stores, you can
still let your fingers do the walking and avoid getting screwed by the
likes of Amazon.
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com
On 5/11/2017 1:49 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:33 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>>
>>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>>
>> Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
>> mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
>> and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
>>
>> If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
>> that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
>> sold at Amazon.
>
> Go back to sleep.
>
And miss your moronic posts... Why?
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com
On 5/11/2017 8:13 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2017 16:49:05 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/2017 1:49 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:33 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/10/2017 1:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>>>>>>> these days than Amazon...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>>>>>>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>>>>>> many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>>>>>> reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>>>>>> that case I usually buy locally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Different strokes. Time is money too.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. So if I need it now, would be stupid to wait 4 days to get it
>>>> mailed from Amazon when a short drive to a local store will get it now,
>>>> and at 1/2 - 1/10th the price.
>>>>
>>>> If I don't need it now, then I can wait until I'm going near the store
>>>> that sells the thing I don't need now, or going for something else not
>>>> sold at Amazon.
>>>
>>> Go back to sleep.
>>>
>> And miss your moronic posts... Why?
>
> You miss the point by a few states, so why not?
>
zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZ!
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On 5/8/17 9:45 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> I haven't checked, but I doubt Home Depot will ship it to your house for
>> 48 cents.
>>
>>
>
> Last I knew, Home Depot has a minimum purchase amount before you get free
> shipping. I think it's $35, but it might have changed. They will,
> however, ship to store for free.
>
> I'm going to give the ship to store thing a try soon, I'm just waiting for
> when I know I'll be near my local store.
>
> Puckdropper
>
I've used this service on occasion.
Best "result" was ordering a box of ceiling tiles (special order only).
HD had them cheaper then anyone else, free shipping to the store.
The tiles were a full box order, a bit larger than a typical office
"file" box. When I picked it up, it was saran wrapped to a mini pallet.
The pallet was completely new/unused 2'x2' with no gaps between the top
slats, oak, staples not nails, some QS boards. They gladly used a fork
lift to place the pallet and tiles into the back of my truck (total
weight of maybe 50 pounds).
I gave a 4-star review for the packaging....
-BR
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
> >> bottle opener.
> > Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
> > normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>
> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good?
Not according to CR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hqFR8yANA
On Wed, 10 May 2017 02:24:33 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Markem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 09 May 2017 20:06:11 +0000, Spalted Walt
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>> >> >> bottle opener.
>> >> > Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>> >> > normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good?
>> >
>> >Not according to CR:
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hqFR8yANA
>>
>> But then again I have doubts about Consumer Reports ability to be
>> objective, has to do with being paid by whom?
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Reports
Consumer Reports sell a product, the tests they run are based on some
standards (but whose).
Just cause it is on the Web and it is on Wikipedia does not mean they
tested something right.
On Wed, 3 May 2017 21:53:11 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 5/3/2017 4:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:05:47 PM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
>>
>>> WIRE WHEEL - Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them
>>> somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also
>>> removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about
>>> the time it takes you to say, 'Oh shit'. Will easily wind a tee
>>> shirt off your back.
>>
>> I always seem to see a lot of these, and amazingly, they all seem to
>> be a little different. And as someone that uses tools for a living,
>> I laugh out loud at how true these things can be.
>>
>> A couple of months ago I chucked up a stiff wire wheel to clean heavy
>> rust of a couple of tools that were out in the rain, then spent a
>> month in the rain. Leaning over to really mash hard on teh drill, my
>> shirt drooped over the drill/wheel, and it almost pulled my shirt
>> off! As it was, it took a wad of shirt that was about 10" across
>> completely off the shirt.
>>
>> Had to listen to it all day long. "Hey Robert. you want me to do
>> that? Next time you might not get out of the way" and "Robert, if
>> you need me to help you figure out how that operation works, let me
>> know... I am available for drill lessons" etc. For me, I was a
>> little stunned, a little surprised, and a lot embarrassed! (Did I
>> mention I had to hear about the hole in my shirt and re-tell the tale
>> all day long?)
>
>
>the important question..... does the hole in your shirt make your butt
>loo too big? :~)
No way! ;-)
Unquestionably Confused <[email protected]> wrote:
> Exactly, and I've been doing business (mainly buying) on Ebay for twenty
> years this July and have yet (knock on wood) been stiffed as either a
> buyer or seller. One has to check the buyer/seller ratings and use
> PayPal to shield yourself. PayPal seems to bend over backwards to
> protect buyers often, it's claimed, at the expense of sellers who feel
> THEY are victimized by purchasers. I don't know the truth there but. .
> . I can say this with a perfectly straight face: Over the two decades
> I've dealt with folks on Ebay, I have save a lot of money. Really A
> LOT! If I were to send off $2,500 to $3,000 to somebody on Ebay next
> week and they take the money and run leaving me with nothing, I would
> STILL be ahead of the game. I'd be mightily pissed, but financially,
> I'd still be ahead of the game overall.
+1
I've been a eBay buyer since '99 and have bought close to ~400 items.
There've been 4 or 5 occasions I didn't receive my purchase and the
seller wouldn't respond, or was giving me the runaround.
I never had _any_ problem with the eBay/paypal reimbursement process,
always swift and painless.
On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:22:01 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Spalted Walt wrote:
>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
>
>
>This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
>opening paint cans?
>As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
>handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
>use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
>guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
>>
Can openers, often part of a bottle opener - sometimes referred to
as a "church key"
On 5/3/2017 4:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 1:05:47 PM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
>
>> WIRE WHEEL - Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them
>> somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also
>> removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about
>> the time it takes you to say, 'Oh shit'. Will easily wind a tee
>> shirt off your back.
>
> I always seem to see a lot of these, and amazingly, they all seem to
> be a little different. And as someone that uses tools for a living,
> I laugh out loud at how true these things can be.
>
> A couple of months ago I chucked up a stiff wire wheel to clean heavy
> rust of a couple of tools that were out in the rain, then spent a
> month in the rain. Leaning over to really mash hard on teh drill, my
> shirt drooped over the drill/wheel, and it almost pulled my shirt
> off! As it was, it took a wad of shirt that was about 10" across
> completely off the shirt.
>
> Had to listen to it all day long. "Hey Robert. you want me to do
> that? Next time you might not get out of the way" and "Robert, if
> you need me to help you figure out how that operation works, let me
> know... I am available for drill lessons" etc. For me, I was a
> little stunned, a little surprised, and a lot embarrassed! (Did I
> mention I had to hear about the hole in my shirt and re-tell the tale
> all day long?)
the important question..... does the hole in your shirt make your butt
loo too big? :~)
On Mon, 8 May 2017 23:18:07 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 5/8/2017 10:31 PM, Bill wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Free with a paint purchase at my local Sherwin Williams, the paint can/
>>>> bottle opener.
>>> Just went there Saturday. $120 for two gallons, on sale. $170
>>> normally. But paint stick and a bottle opener are free. ;-)
>>
>> You fellows sure know a bargain... Is the paint that good? Do you still
>> use 2 coats?
>>
>
>Sw paint is pretty good. Good paint last much longer and equally as
>important it is easier to work with. I buy their best every time.
The people in SW are also very good at getting you information, if
they do not know they will find out, rather than BS you.
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Spalted Walt wrote:
> > Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Spalted Walt wrote:
> >>> STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER -
> >>> A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted
> >>> screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.
> >>
> >> This raises the question (to me), do they make a tool especially FOR
> >> opening paint cans?
> >> As a youngster, my dad taught me to use the screwdriver with golden
> >> handle that already had paint all over it (maybe after my indiscriminate
> >> use of other ones..). At least he let me have free rein--my primary
> >> guidance was not to flip the switch on the table saw.
> >>>
> > For cans:
> > http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-Can-and-Bottle-Opener-CBO-HDL/206794609
>
> Thank you, I have run across a few of those in the past. I don't
> remember ever using one. Maybe there is a YouTube video... ; )
Probably dozens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQMJ1RFr0CU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k174Wmbqqeg
On Wed, 10 May 2017 11:32:57 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/9/2017 1:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 May 2017 08:26:36 -0400, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>> Do you have a cheaper place where you can buy damned near everything?
>>>
>>> I let my fingers do the walking... Seems most everywhere is cheaper
>>> these days than Amazon...
>>
>> I don't find that at all. Sometimes it's not a lot more expensive to
>> buy locally but Amazon has a much wider selection that I don't see
>> elsewhere.
>
>I can't think of anything on Amazon I can't find elsewhere. Lately too
>many things are 1/2 to 1/10th the price elsewhere. Even their
>reasonably priced items can often be matched at a local store, and in
>that case I usually buy locally.
Different strokes. Time is money too.