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>
> Rob
2135: Tool for mixing a compost pile.
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> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
> >
> > 2132. The first type of handle allows the user to saw things like
> > floorboards situated below him and for the entire blade length to go into
> > the board and cut through any tangs. The conventional handle is designed
> > for normal sawing with the user standing and the saw held at elbow level.
>
>
> This isn't the answer that I was looking for but it does sound reasonable.
The top handle can be used as a square to measure 90 and 45 degrees.
2131: sawbuck variant, probably (because the log will be
close to the ground) for an axe-wielder who is busily
trimming off branches. Maybe, could support
light hewing (but only of the topmost surface, that
close to the soil)
2133: fill the bottom with hot water, it keeps a bowl or pot in the
center hot (or with ice water, cold). If you put a fire
under it, it becomes a steam bath like old chem lab
apparatus (usually seen with a round flask on the hole).
2136: cores for a hydraulic control valve?
On 1/6/2011 9:16 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>
> Rob
2133 Looks like it made from copper and tinned on the inside for use for
food cooking or . maybe is a pot that you fill with water and place on
the stove and boil the water and use it to heat other pots , the
different rings are for different sized pots to sit on.
Or could be a steamer if the oer pots have holes in the bottoms.
2134 sealing wax container with finger ring
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> Rob
2132: On the first saw the front edge of the handle is at 90 and 45 degrees
to the back of the blade so it can be used as a set square for marking out.
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Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2132: On the first saw the front edge of the handle is at 90 and 45
> degrees to the back of the blade so it can be used as a set square for
> marking out.
My first thought till I looked and realised it isn't, certainly not the
"90 deg" bit.
2132 is the proper tool for dealing with spammers
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On Jan 10, 8:09=A0am, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:[email protected]=
as.de...
>
> > I can pretty much promise you that carpenters (at least self respecting
> > ones) don't use saw handles to measure out angles on wood with. Many sa=
w
> > handles have what looks like a 90 and 45 degree angle on them but that
> > really isn't the main point.
>
> > If the hand hole in a saw handle is at 35 to 45 (ish) degrees to the bl=
ade
> > then that's a floorboard or flooring saw.
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/prods/30120/Hand-Tools/Saws/Floorboard-Saws/I...
>
> > If the hand hole is closer to perpendicular to the blade then that's ye=
r
> > general duty crosscut and ripping handsaw.
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/prods/20912/Hand-Tools/Saws/Hard-Point-Panel-...
>
> > --
> > Dave Baker
>
> I think it's quite likely that the manufacturer wanted to cut costs and
> decided on a cheaper to make handle. =A0The angles were so they could
> advertise it as "new and improved" to camouflage the real reason for
> the change.
> Art
That seems to be a bit of circular logic. If the purpose was merely to
make a cheaper handle, then there would be no reason to make the
angles 90 and 45 degrees. Those had to be purposefully engineered in,
which means the 'cheaper' aspect was actually a hidden benefit, not a
primary one. And the angles were the primary purpose, not a
camouflage.
In any case, its a clever idea but I wonder how useful it was.
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> Rob
2131, is a hand operated chaff cutter
2132: two different saws, one has an angle marker, the other has not,
made by Spears and Jackson
2133: it is a steamer pot, put water in the main pot and the other parts
are for different sized pots to sit on for steaming,
2134: is a wax seal , the ring fits on the finger, the container holds the
wax and the end bit is the hallmark.
2135: is a pipe sludge remover
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> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:34:26 -0500, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >
>> > Along the lines that have already been suggested, is the distance
>> > between
>> > the two screws identical in 2132? Is the handle reversible?
>> >
>> > S
>>
>>
>> I don't own the saw so I can't measure the distance but I don't think
>> it's
>> reversible, and that wasn't the intended answer.
> I doubt that the handle allows for easy 45/90 degree setup: there is
> no "stop" to make sure of the alignment and the alignment has to be
> done by "eye".
>
> I think that one of the poster who said the saw was for cutting when
> the material being cut isn't at the usual sawhorse height.
Look at the photo again, then look again and you should see that thet handle
angle is placed against the wood to be cut, at whichever angle you want,
then you mark a line by using the saw blade along the wood
>>
>>
>> Rob
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>>>
>>>
>>> 2132: On the first saw the front edge of the handle is at 90 and 45
>>> degrees to the back of the blade so it can be used as a set square for
>>> marking out.
>>
>>
>> Correct, some saws have the angle stamped on with the handle but this one
>> is unmarked.
>
> I can pretty much promise you that carpenters (at least self respecting
> ones) don't use saw handles to measure out angles on wood with. Many saw
> handles have what looks like a 90 and 45 degree angle on them but that
> really isn't the main point.
>
> If the hand hole in a saw handle is at 35 to 45 (ish) degrees to the blade
> then that's a floorboard or flooring saw.
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/prods/30120/Hand-Tools/Saws/Floorboard-Saws/Irwin-Jack-Floorboard-Saw-12Tpi-13-330mm
>
> If the hand hole is closer to perpendicular to the blade then that's yer
> general duty crosscut and ripping handsaw.
>
> http://www.screwfix.com/prods/20912/Hand-Tools/Saws/Hard-Point-Panel-Saws/Bahco-244-Handsaw-20
>
> --
> Dave Baker
Don't think you really saw what the angle really was ,
The shape of the handle hole is the same in both of your photos, just the
angle of the saw is different
Whether it be a cross-cut or a back saw, the cut depends on the shape, set
and number of the teeth
not the position of where the hole is in the handle.
Different number and set of teeth for different jobs.
The angle of the handle is also for ease of use to obtain the closest angle
of preferred cut
If you saw me use a saw and tried to tell me how to use a saw, it would be a
saw point
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> Rob
2133 is used in chemistry labs to hold round-bottomed flasks of
different sizes in a double boiler. The lower section is filled with
water or mineral oil.
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2132. The first type of handle allows the user to saw things like
floorboards situated below him and for the entire blade length to go into
the board and cut through any tangs. The conventional handle is designed for
normal sawing with the user standing and the saw held at elbow level.
2136. I suspect these might be templates for copy lathes.
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2131. I can only guess it's for gripping logs so they can be sawn.
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> In article <[email protected]>, Rob H.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I need some help with three of the items this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2135: Tool for mixing a compost pile.
Correct, it's a compost turner.
Rob
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>>I need some help with three of the items this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>
> 2132. The first type of handle allows the user to saw things like
> floorboards situated below him and for the entire blade length to go into
> the board and cut through any tangs. The conventional handle is designed
> for normal sawing with the user standing and the saw held at elbow level.
This isn't the answer that I was looking for but it does sound reasonable.
> 2136. I suspect these might be templates for copy lathes.
I think this is probably right but I haven't been able to find any others
like them.
Rob
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>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 2132: On the first saw the front edge of the handle is at 90 and 45
> degrees to the back of the blade so it can be used as a set square for
> marking out.
Correct, some saws have the angle stamped on with the handle but this one is
unmarked.
Rob
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2131 jolly green giants nut cracker :-)
2134 To check a persons Ring size. could possibly be bolted down like the
pen's at the bank
Robert
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 2132: On the first saw the front edge of the handle is at 90 and 45
>> degrees to the back of the blade so it can be used as a set square for
>> marking out.
>
> My first thought till I looked and realised it isn't, certainly not the
> "90 deg" bit.
I agree that in the photo it doesn't look like 90 degrees, but I'm sure that
it was distorted a little by the camera lens.
Rob
On 01/06/2011 05:46 AM, Rob H. wrote:
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>
>
> Rob
Last week someone (on r.c.m.?)was looking for a way
to pull rotted fenceposts from inside their concrete
collar.
Number 2135 looks like it would do nicely.
technomaNge
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On 01/06/2011 05:46 AM, Rob H. wrote:
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>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>
>
> Rob
2136 are the interior slugs from hydraulic
control valves. Different positions route
the fluid to different ports of the housing
these fit into.
technomaNge
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2131, not much clue. Maybe holds a bunch of fabric or
sheaves of grain for tying up?
2132, I've used crosscut, and rip saws. I don't know what
the advantage is.
2133. Might be a warmer to keep food dishes warm at the
table?
2134. I think this is a variation on a "tacky finger". A
secretary would wear this like a ring. The secretary would
stick a finger into the wax, to put some wax on the finger
tip. This makes it easier to slide cards or papers, since
the finger tip is now "tacky". I throw out stupid guesses
now and again, but I'm fairly sure this is correct.
2135. I've never seen one of these, but I'm guessing a drain
cleanout, cleaner.
2136, totally no clue.
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> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 2131. I can only guess it's for gripping logs so they can be sawn.
> --
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Good guess! This is correct. Still not sure about two of the items but the
rest of the answers have been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html#answers
Rob
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Along the lines that have already been suggested, is the distance between
> the two screws identical in 2132? Is the handle reversible?
>
> S
I don't own the saw so I can't measure the distance but I don't think it's
reversible, and that wasn't the intended answer.
Rob
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>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>I need some help with three of the items this week:
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>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>> 2132: On the first saw the front edge of the handle is at 90 and 45
>> degrees to the back of the blade so it can be used as a set square for
>> marking out.
>
>
> Correct, some saws have the angle stamped on with the handle but this one
> is unmarked.
I can pretty much promise you that carpenters (at least self respecting
ones) don't use saw handles to measure out angles on wood with. Many saw
handles have what looks like a 90 and 45 degree angle on them but that
really isn't the main point.
If the hand hole in a saw handle is at 35 to 45 (ish) degrees to the blade
then that's a floorboard or flooring saw.
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/30120/Hand-Tools/Saws/Floorboard-Saws/Irwin-Jack-Floorboard-Saw-12Tpi-13-330mm
If the hand hole is closer to perpendicular to the blade then that's yer
general duty crosscut and ripping handsaw.
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/20912/Hand-Tools/Saws/Hard-Point-Panel-Saws/Bahco-244-Handsaw-20
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"Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I can pretty much promise you that carpenters (at least self respecting
> ones) don't use saw handles to measure out angles on wood with. Many saw
> handles have what looks like a 90 and 45 degree angle on them but that
> really isn't the main point.
>
> If the hand hole in a saw handle is at 35 to 45 (ish) degrees to the blade
> then that's a floorboard or flooring saw.
>
>
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/30120/Hand-Tools/Saws/Floorboard-Saws/Irwin-Jack-Floorboard-Saw-12Tpi-13-330mm
>
> If the hand hole is closer to perpendicular to the blade then that's yer
> general duty crosscut and ripping handsaw.
>
>
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/20912/Hand-Tools/Saws/Hard-Point-Panel-Saws/Bahco-244-Handsaw-20
>
> --
> Dave Baker
>
I think it's quite likely that the manufacturer wanted to cut costs and
decided on a cheaper to make handle. The angles were so they could
advertise it as "new and improved" to camouflage the real reason for
the change.
Art
On 1/12/11 2:53 AM, humunculus wrote:
>> I think it's quite likely that the manufacturer wanted to cut costs and
>> > decided on a cheaper to make handle. The angles were so they could
>> > advertise it as "new and improved" to camouflage the real reason for
>> > the change.
>> > Art
> That seems to be a bit of circular logic. If the purpose was merely to
> make a cheaper handle, then there would be no reason to make the
> angles 90 and 45 degrees. Those had to be purposefully engineered in,
> which means the 'cheaper' aspect was actually a hidden benefit, not a
> primary one. And the angles were the primary purpose, not a
> camouflage.
>
> In any case, its a clever idea but I wonder how useful it was.
>
The first time I had to cut off a board with a saw like that, I looked
for a try square and saw it (no pun intended) immediately.
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:46:59 -0500 in [email protected], Rob
H. wrote:
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>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>
>
> Rob
Along the lines that have already been suggested, is the distance between
the two screws identical in 2132? Is the handle reversible?
S
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:34:26 -0500, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob
> >
> > Along the lines that have already been suggested, is the distance between
> > the two screws identical in 2132? Is the handle reversible?
> >
> > S
>
>
> I don't own the saw so I can't measure the distance but I don't think it's
> reversible, and that wasn't the intended answer.
I doubt that the handle allows for easy 45/90 degree setup: there is
no "stop" to make sure of the alignment and the alignment has to be
done by "eye".
I think that one of the poster who said the saw was for cutting when
the material being cut isn't at the usual sawhorse height.
>
>
> Rob
On 2011-01-06, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with three of the items this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
2131) Looks like something for holding a rough hewn plank for
planing or perhaps shaping by an adze.
2132) Looks like it provides a more comfortable grip for someone
with a large hand.
2133) The bottom half of a double boilerl with a set of adaptor rings
to accommodate various sizes of upper pans -- the smallest for
melting butter at a guess.
2134) Perhaps for waxing thread while sewing either in general, or
to make it easier to start the thread through the eye of a
needle.
2135) For gripping and pulling up a cylindrical vertical pipe,
perhaps a well pipe which needs to be replaced.
2136) Hmm ... strange things. They look like part of a set of
controls which select gears by rotating and sliding to proper
positions -- perhaps for selecting threading gears in a gearhead
lathe.
Now to see what others have guessed.
Enjoy,
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On 2011-01-07, technomaNge <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 01/06/2011 05:46 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with three of the items this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Last week someone (on r.c.m.?)was looking for a way
> to pull rotted fenceposts from inside their concrete
> collar.
It was rec.crafts.metalworking -- but they were looking for ways
to pull the plugs of concrete (footers) from below rotted and removed
fenceposts.
> Number 2135 looks like it would do nicely.
Rotted posts, yes. The concrete footer plugs, no.
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On 2011-01-09, Mark F <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:34:26 -0500, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-370.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >
>> > Along the lines that have already been suggested, is the distance between
>> > the two screws identical in 2132? Is the handle reversible?
>> >
>> > S
>>
>>
>> I don't own the saw so I can't measure the distance but I don't think it's
>> reversible, and that wasn't the intended answer.
> I doubt that the handle allows for easy 45/90 degree setup: there is
> no "stop" to make sure of the alignment and the alignment has to be
> done by "eye".
The *handle* itself is the stop -- and the back edge of the
blade is the edge along which the lines are drawn. The back edge is at
right angles to one surface of the handle, and at 45 degrees to the
other. You rest one of those two surfaces of the handle against the
edge of the board, and draw your line using the back of the blade.
Enjoy,
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