One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems like
a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
adjustment breaks quickly.
The other "premier" table router would seem to be the Triton, but people
complain on Amazon that the quality control is sketchy.
Have either of these problems been overcome recently? The local Milwaukee
price is attractive, but since this will hopefully be the last router I get
for my table, I hope to do it right even if it costs a few dollars more.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> > And you *know* it's not cheap considering prices aren't easily found.
>> http://www.routerbits.com/cgi-routerbits/sr.cgi?1153654195_13211+808
>>
>> $329
>
> Add on the cost of the router and it's starting to get into some serious
> money. It does look like a very hefty unit though. Any comments you can
> make
> on the unit that you have?
>
> On a side note, for their international shipping, I'm gratified to see
> that
> Canada had the cheapest rates so at least they're not taking the
> opportunity
> to gouge every client.
The one I have was an aluminum body. IIRC, it was about $200. I use a
socket in my drill to run it up fast for bit changes, run it back down to
close to where it should be. Then I use the speed wrench for the final
adjustment.
It is easily adjusted in very small increments with the provided gauge. It
can be zeroed out from any setting. It holds the settings perfectly no matt
how much wood you pas over the bit. I can't think of a single negative, nor
would I want to be without one again.
Lots of routers, all with problems sometime within their production
schedules.
Milwaukee had serious runout problems early. Now spindle is chatter
free.
Just how in the hell does a consumer make a decision with all this
confusion goin' on; (did he fire 6)?
Who knows. Some help at the http://patwarner.com/selecting_router.html
link awaits.
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Toller wrote:
> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>
> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems like
> a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
> adjustment breaks quickly.
>
> The other "premier" table router would seem to be the Triton, but people
> complain on Amazon that the quality control is sketchy.
>
> Have either of these problems been overcome recently? The local Milwaukee
> price is attractive, but since this will hopefully be the last router I get
> for my table, I hope to do it right even if it costs a few dollars more.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> It is easily adjusted in very small increments with the provided gauge.
It
> can be zeroed out from any setting. It holds the settings perfectly no
matter
> how much wood you pass over the bit. I can't think of a single negative,
nor
> would I want to be without one again.
Thanks. What router are you using with it? If it didn't cost you anything,
would you switch that router (in this lift system) for another brand?
Here's a full review of the Triton:
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/tritonrouter.htm
Dean
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>
> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems
> like a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
> adjustment breaks quickly.
>
> The other "premier" table router would seem to be the Triton, but people
> complain on Amazon that the quality control is sketchy.
>
> Have either of these problems been overcome recently? The local Milwaukee
> price is attractive, but since this will hopefully be the last router I
> get for my table, I hope to do it right even if it costs a few dollars
> more.
>
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Not cheap, but this will end your adjustment problems
>> http://www.benchdog.com/prolift.htm
>
> And you *know* it's not cheap considering prices aren't easily found.
>
>
http://www.routerbits.com/cgi-routerbits/sr.cgi?1153654195_13211+808
$329
They had a cheaper model (that I have) but it has been discontinued for some
reason.
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I've been using the 1617EVS for 3 years. I find the magnesium corrodes
> and it gets difficult to adjust. If yours doesn't, you are fortunate.
> Also, if you ever do a raised panel you will definitely want more power.
Corrosion is not a problem as it is mounted in the lift. The lift does the
adjusting and the motor is just clamped into it.
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>
> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems
> like a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
> adjustment breaks quickly.
Not cheap, but this will end your adjustment problems
http://www.benchdog.com/prolift.htm
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I've been using the 1617EVS for 3 years. I find the magnesium corrodes
and
> it gets difficult to adjust. If yours doesn't, you are fortunate.
Considering his is in a lift, corrosion won't be of any concern.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Thanks. What router are you using with it? If it didn't cost you anything,
> would you switch that router (in this lift system) for another brand?
>
>
I have a Bosch 1617EVS. It has been very good, I got it at a good price at
the time. It has done everything I've needed done so far, but I've not done
any raised panels. If I ever do get into heavier work, a 3 HP would be
good, either PC, Milwaukee, or any of the "better" brands.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Not cheap, but this will end your adjustment problems
> http://www.benchdog.com/prolift.htm
And you *know* it's not cheap considering prices aren't easily found.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Not cheap, but this will end your adjustment problems
>> http://www.benchdog.com/prolift.htm
>>
>
> But so will either router. And no lift is going to solve the under
> powered situation that he is looking to solve.
True, this is just a part of a solution. One of many options.
Toller wrote:
> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a
Bosch
> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>
> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That
seems like
> a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
> adjustment breaks quickly.
<snip>
Can't comment directly on either product; however, have a local
Milwaukee service center less than 15 miles from me.
Over the years, they have bent over backwards to help me.
I have to assume it is not just local, but a corporate thing.
If you have a local Milwaukee repair center, it would strongly
influence my decision.
YMMV
Lew
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
>> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>>
>> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems
>> like a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
>> adjustment breaks quickly.
>>
>> The other "premier" table router would seem to be the Triton, but people
>> complain on Amazon that the quality control is sketchy.
>>
>> Have either of these problems been overcome recently? The local
>> Milwaukee price is attractive, but since this will hopefully be the last
>> router I get for my table, I hope to do it right even if it costs a few
>> dollars more.
>>
>
> The early Tritons did have some problems that the manufacturer took care
> of. I have had one for 2 years and have had no problems.
I have a Hitachi M12V in my table and have no complaints. The price is right
too. Got mine on Amazon.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Thanks. What router are you using with it? If it didn't cost you
>> anything,
>> would you switch that router (in this lift system) for another brand?
>>
>>
>
> I have a Bosch 1617EVS. It has been very good, I got it at a good price
> at the time. It has done everything I've needed done so far, but I've not
> done any raised panels. If I ever do get into heavier work, a 3 HP would
> be good, either PC, Milwaukee, or any of the "better" brands.
I've been using the 1617EVS for 3 years. I find the magnesium corrodes and
it gets difficult to adjust. If yours doesn't, you are fortunate. Also, if
you ever do a raised panel you will definitely want more power.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > And you *know* it's not cheap considering prices aren't easily found.
> http://www.routerbits.com/cgi-routerbits/sr.cgi?1153654195_13211+808
>
> $329
Add on the cost of the router and it's starting to get into some serious
money. It does look like a very hefty unit though. Any comments you can make
on the unit that you have?
On a side note, for their international shipping, I'm gratified to see that
Canada had the cheapest rates so at least they're not taking the opportunity
to gouge every client.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I have a Bosch 1617EVS. It has been very good, I got it at a good price
at
> the time. It has done everything I've needed done so far, but I've not
done
> any raised panels. If I ever do get into heavier work, a 3 HP would be
> good, either PC, Milwaukee, or any of the "better" brands.
Ok thanks. I read on the Bench Dog site in the PDF manual for the Pro Lift
that Milwaukee routers were not compatible with it. Keep it in mind should
you ever decide to upgrade for making raised panels. :)
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
>> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>>
>> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems
>> like a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
>> adjustment breaks quickly.
>
> Not cheap, but this will end your adjustment problems
> http://www.benchdog.com/prolift.htm
>
But so will either router. And no lift is going to solve the under powered
situation that he is looking to solve.
I'd get the big Hitachi if I were going to replace what I have. Good track
record in this use and can't beat the price.
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>
> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems
like
> a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
> adjustment breaks quickly.
>
> The other "premier" table router would seem to be the Triton, but people
> complain on Amazon that the quality control is sketchy.
>
> Have either of these problems been overcome recently? The local Milwaukee
> price is attractive, but since this will hopefully be the last router I
get
> for my table, I hope to do it right even if it costs a few dollars more.
>
>
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One of these days I need to upgrade my table router. I am using a Bosch
> 1617; it is a bit underpowered and can be difficult to adjust.
>
> There is a Milwaukee 3.5hp available new locally for $200. That seems
> like a great price, but several people complain on Amazon that the height
> adjustment breaks quickly.
>
> The other "premier" table router would seem to be the Triton, but people
> complain on Amazon that the quality control is sketchy.
>
> Have either of these problems been overcome recently? The local Milwaukee
> price is attractive, but since this will hopefully be the last router I
> get for my table, I hope to do it right even if it costs a few dollars
> more.
>
The early Tritons did have some problems that the manufacturer took care of.
I have had one for 2 years and have had no problems.