Hello - I am considering a wainscoting project that will involve poplar
rails and stiles various 1/4 rounds and possibly (Yet TBD) raised panels. I
have all the tools and experience to mill my own stock but I have never seen
(Nor have I looked for) poplar in the rough. Can yall tell me if its cheaper
to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg? Poplar cause
it will be painted.
TIA
No wrote:
> Hello - I am considering a wainscoting project that will involve poplar
> rails and stiles various 1/4 rounds and possibly (Yet TBD) raised panels. I
> have all the tools and experience to mill my own stock but I have never seen
> (Nor have I looked for) poplar in the rough. Can yall tell me if its cheaper
> to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg? Poplar cause
> it will be painted.
A lot of the wood I've seen in Home Despot is essentially rough sawn.
The planer chatter is something unbelievable.
If you have the knowledge and equipment to mill your own stock, it's a
far better way to go. I can't comment on how wood is priced in your
area, but around here it would be cheaper to get the poplar from a
hardwood house.
R
No wrote:
> >
> Nope - Thanks for your input. I have only bought more what I would call
> specialty lumber in furniture quantities. I guess my question was more about
> buying plain ole poplar in the rough. I'll go shopping and see what I can
> find.
As a kid being sent to the store with $5 to get some milk, you never
came back with the milk and a Tootsie Roll?
R
"No" wrote in message
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> > Unless you have a jointer and planer, even S2S1E poplar should be a lot
> > cheaper, and all you need is a table saw with a good fence to "mill" it
to
> > your widths.
> >
> I have a new 8" jointer and 13" planer looking for a project! <grin>
Get to work then ... you sure didn't buy those tools to mill BORG lumber. ;)
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "No" wrote in message
>> Hello - I am considering a wainscoting project that will involve poplar
>> rails and stiles various 1/4 rounds and possibly (Yet TBD) raised panels.
> I
>> have all the tools and experience to mill my own stock but I have never
> seen
>> (Nor have I looked for) poplar in the rough. Can yall tell me if its
> cheaper
>> to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg? Poplar
>> cause
>> it will be painted.
>
> If you can't beat the BORGS linear foot prices for poplar at a hardwood
> lumber yard, you're not trying.
>
> Unless you have a jointer and planer, even S2S1E poplar should be a lot
> cheaper, and all you need is a table saw with a good fence to "mill" it to
> your widths.
>
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> Last update: 12/13/05
>
I have a new 8" jointer and 13" planer looking for a project! <grin>
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No wrote:
>> Hello - I am considering a wainscoting project that will involve poplar
>> rails and stiles various 1/4 rounds and possibly (Yet TBD) raised panels.
>> I
>> have all the tools and experience to mill my own stock but I have never
>> seen
>> (Nor have I looked for) poplar in the rough. Can yall tell me if its
>> cheaper
>> to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg? Poplar
>> cause
>> it will be painted.
>
> A lot of the wood I've seen in Home Despot is essentially rough sawn.
> The planer chatter is something unbelievable.
>
> If you have the knowledge and equipment to mill your own stock, it's a
> far better way to go. I can't comment on how wood is priced in your
> area, but around here it would be cheaper to get the poplar from a
> hardwood house.
>
> R
Thanks everyone for the replies - I guess I need to get off my butt and
check prices! My wood supplier deals in more specialty woods and not the
type of bulk purchase I am going to need. (Not that its THAT much wood)
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "No" wrote in message
>> "Swingman" wrote in message
>
>> > Unless you have a jointer and planer, even S2S1E poplar should be a lot
>> > cheaper, and all you need is a table saw with a good fence to "mill" it
> to
>> > your widths.
>
>> >
>> I have a new 8" jointer and 13" planer looking for a project! <grin>
>
> Get to work then ... you sure didn't buy those tools to mill BORG lumber.
> ;)
>
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>
Nope - Thanks for your input. I have only bought more what I would call
specialty lumber in furniture quantities. I guess my question was more about
buying plain ole poplar in the rough. I'll go shopping and see what I can
find.
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No wrote:
>> >
>> Nope - Thanks for your input. I have only bought more what I would call
>> specialty lumber in furniture quantities. I guess my question was more
>> about
>> buying plain ole poplar in the rough. I'll go shopping and see what I can
>> find.
>
> As a kid being sent to the store with $5 to get some milk, you never
> came back with the milk and a Tootsie Roll?
>
> R
>
ha
"Woody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No wrote:
>> Hello - I am considering a wainscoting project that will involve poplar
>> rails and stiles various 1/4 rounds and possibly (Yet TBD) raised panels.
>> I have all the tools and experience to mill my own stock but I have never
>> seen (Nor have I looked for) poplar in the rough. Can yall tell me if its
>> cheaper to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg?
>> Poplar cause it will be painted.
>>
>> TIA
>
> As someone who's been there, done that, let me suggest that (at very
> least) you opt to use MDF for the raised panels if not the rails & stiles
> as well. If, as you stated, you're going to paint this, the movement
> across the panels (and probably the rails & stiles) will cause splits in
> the painted surface.
>
> I created "true" raised panel wainscoting for my dining room exclusively
> out of MDF. It was a lot of work and dusty, but two years later, there's
> still no seams where the MDF panels/rails/stiles have moved and split the
> paint.
>
> Read the gory details along with pictures at:
> http://www.woodwrecker.com/woodworking/wainscoting/
>
> ~Mark.
Thanks Woody - I am actually leanning to not raising panels at all. I think
I will just do rails/styles base and cap with a 1/4 round in the frames. It
will give me the look I want and not require panels. The layout from an old
Family Handyman article that was pretty good is where my head is at at the
moment.
"Woody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> As someone who's been there, done that, let me suggest that (at very
> least) you opt to use MDF for the raised panels if not the rails &
> stiles as well. If, as you stated, you're going to paint this, the
> movement across the panels (and probably the rails & stiles) will cause
> splits in the painted surface.
>
> I created "true" raised panel wainscoting for my dining room exclusively
> out of MDF. It was a lot of work and dusty, but two years later, there's
> still no seams where the MDF panels/rails/stiles have moved and split
> the paint.
>
As much as I hate MDF, I remember when you first posted the link to these
pictures. I loved what you did and a second look today was just as good.
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-Mike-
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On 24 Feb 2006 01:02:53 +0100, "No" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Can yall tell me if its cheaper
>to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg?
It absolutely is. In my area it's a 3x price difference.
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"No" wrote in message
> Hello - I am considering a wainscoting project that will involve poplar
> rails and stiles various 1/4 rounds and possibly (Yet TBD) raised panels.
I
> have all the tools and experience to mill my own stock but I have never
seen
> (Nor have I looked for) poplar in the rough. Can yall tell me if its
cheaper
> to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg? Poplar cause
> it will be painted.
If you can't beat the BORGS linear foot prices for poplar at a hardwood
lumber yard, you're not trying.
Unless you have a jointer and planer, even S2S1E poplar should be a lot
cheaper, and all you need is a table saw with a good fence to "mill" it to
your widths.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/13/05
No wrote:
> Hello - I am considering a wainscoting project that will involve poplar
> rails and stiles various 1/4 rounds and possibly (Yet TBD) raised panels. I
> have all the tools and experience to mill my own stock but I have never seen
> (Nor have I looked for) poplar in the rough. Can yall tell me if its cheaper
> to buy 4/4 or 5/4 poplar in the rough versus s4s at the borg? Poplar cause
> it will be painted.
>
> TIA
As someone who's been there, done that, let me suggest that (at very
least) you opt to use MDF for the raised panels if not the rails &
stiles as well. If, as you stated, you're going to paint this, the
movement across the panels (and probably the rails & stiles) will cause
splits in the painted surface.
I created "true" raised panel wainscoting for my dining room exclusively
out of MDF. It was a lot of work and dusty, but two years later, there's
still no seams where the MDF panels/rails/stiles have moved and split
the paint.
Read the gory details along with pictures at:
http://www.woodwrecker.com/woodworking/wainscoting/
~Mark.
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Woody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>As someone who's been there, done that, let me suggest that (at very
>>least) you opt to use MDF for the raised panels if not the rails &
>>stiles as well. If, as you stated, you're going to paint this, the
>>movement across the panels (and probably the rails & stiles) will cause
>>splits in the painted surface.
>>
>>I created "true" raised panel wainscoting for my dining room exclusively
>>out of MDF. It was a lot of work and dusty, but two years later, there's
>>still no seams where the MDF panels/rails/stiles have moved and split
>>the paint.
>>
>
>
> As much as I hate MDF, I remember when you first posted the link to these
> pictures. I loved what you did and a second look today was just as good.
>
Thanks for the compliment (I wasn't fishing BTW). I've subsequently
learned that there are some *very* nasty chemicals in MDF that make dust
collection during routing imperative.
On a couple of projects Norm has done, he seems to favor poplar for the
rails & stiles and MDF for the panels. My guess is he's concerned the
rails/stiles won't route as "crisply" as poplar if they're MDF, but I
had no complaints.