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"Herman Munster"

17/02/2005 12:59 PM

Screen Door

Hi all,
I am thinking of building a screen door for the front of the house.
In the past I purchased one from the borg, real nice looking on the
outside, metal clad, removable full length glass, expensive.....
Particle board on the inside, now rotting thru and rusting.
My questions. If I were to rebuild the door, what wood would you use?
It will probably be painted white. But the wood needs to hold up to the
weather.
MT joinery or pocket screws or biscuits.
Q2. Do you see any problem salvaging the hardware (hinges, tracking to hold
said glass, knob, etc) to re-use on new door.
TIA
Mark


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"P.H. Thorsted"

in reply to "Herman Munster" on 17/02/2005 12:59 PM

17/02/2005 11:53 AM

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:59:20 -0500, Herman Munster wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am thinking of building a screen door for the front of the house.
> In the past I purchased one from the borg, real nice looking on the
> outside, metal clad, removable full length glass, expensive.....
> Particle board on the inside, now rotting thru and rusting.
> My questions. If I were to rebuild the door, what wood would you use?
> It will probably be painted white. But the wood needs to hold up to the
> weather.
> MT joinery or pocket screws or biscuits.
> Q2. Do you see any problem salvaging the hardware (hinges, tracking to hold
> said glass, knob, etc) to re-use on new door.
> TIA
> Mark

Pine should be ok for the screen door as long as you are painting it and
keep up the maintance from year to year. I would do all the painting
before installing the hardware, tracking, glass etc. Make sure every wood
surface has some paint on it. You could also put on some clear varnish or
other over the white paint.

Paul T.

AW

"A.M. Wood"

in reply to "Herman Munster" on 17/02/2005 12:59 PM

17/02/2005 11:01 AM

Not sure how old the door is but if its only a few years old, there may
be a reason why it rusted / rotted so quickly that should be repaired.
If you can't do anything about the dampness, a wood door may not be a
good solution.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Herman Munster" on 17/02/2005 12:59 PM

17/02/2005 3:56 PM

Can't imagine exactly how you can use pocket screws without an ugly
factor. I guess you could use those shaved of plugs they sell but as
soon as I consider using those it's a red flag that they aren't right
for the joint.

Regardless, a door takes an amazing amount of stresses. I built a pine
screen door using dowles that as a piece of furniture would have lasted
forever. It deterioriated in about a year.

I would go with M&T myself. If you paint it well, you could make it out
of any material really. Poplar would be a good choice. Cheap, great to
work with, stays straight, yada yada. You might drench it with water
sealer first and caulk the glass seats well so you don't get intrusion.

Reuse the hardware seems OK to me. Again, silicon ondet the
hinges\screw holes to minimize water damage.

Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to "Herman Munster" on 17/02/2005 12:59 PM

17/02/2005 1:03 PM

I like vertical grain fir, cypress or SYP - if you paint it.
Costs vary greatly in different areas. Check with your local hardwood
supplier, they will/should steer you in the right direction based on local
woods available.
Dave


"Herman Munster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
> I am thinking of building a screen door for the front of the house.
> In the past I purchased one from the borg, real nice looking on the
> outside, metal clad, removable full length glass, expensive.....
> Particle board on the inside, now rotting thru and rusting.
> My questions. If I were to rebuild the door, what wood would you use?
> It will probably be painted white. But the wood needs to hold up to the
> weather.
> MT joinery or pocket screws or biscuits.
> Q2. Do you see any problem salvaging the hardware (hinges, tracking to
> hold
> said glass, knob, etc) to re-use on new door.
> TIA
> Mark
>
>



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"Luigi Zanasi"

in reply to "Herman Munster" on 17/02/2005 12:59 PM

18/02/2005 9:57 PM

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:59:20 -0500, Herman Munster wrote:

> My questions. If I were to rebuild the door, what wood would you use?

Clear western red cedar. Other clear stable woods could be used (e.g. Doug
fir, hem-fir, redwood, white pine, luan, etc.)

> It will probably be painted white. But the wood needs to hold up to the
> weather.

Cedar is best (or maybe redwood). But if it's painted and maintained,
other woods mean 30 years instead of 40 (YMMV)

> MT joinery or pocket screws or biscuits.

MT best. Biscuits might work. I don't believe screws would hold up to the
stress.

> Q2. Do you see any problem salvaging the hardware (hinges, tracking to hold
> said glass, knob, etc) to re-use on new door.

As long as they are not rusted.

> TIA

YAMW

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