JH

"John Hightower"

02/10/2003 6:10 PM

old tools (gloat?)

So I'm going through all of my grandfathers old tools that have been in
storage for umpteen years-probably since the 50's. There are several wooden
chests full of stuff ranging from planes to chisels and gouges, and even an
old transit. I'm trying to sort and collate everything into some kind of a
managable list. There are about 16 planes in the collection- most in good
condition- a couple with some rust where a roof leak dripped into the box
they were in.

I'm wondering how much "clean-up" one should or shouldn't do with these old
planes. the planes consist of a Stanley no.8; a Baily #8, 3 Baily #4's,
Baily no. 5, Baily #6, 2 Stanley #10, a Stanley Rule and Level Co. no 113
(radius plane with flexible sole), stanley #71 1/2 pat oct29, '01 mortise
plane, stanley #1951 bevel plane, Stanley #40, a rabbiting plane with no mfg
mark - patent march 4 '73, A stanley #50 rabbiting plane patent date sept
11,'83, 3 unmarked wooden body moulding planes, and a stanley #82 (cabinet
scrapper?). One of the #8's has a few areas of red-rust, two of the Baily
#4's are missing the blade and the blade keeper, one of the stanley #10's is
broken in 2 parts.

I've not even tried to go throught the rest of the boxes yet- lots of saw
set tools, a miter shear, hand grinder, and lots of chisels and gouges.

any and all "send them to me and I'll dispose of them properly" offers will
be ignored :-)

jh


This topic has 10 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

03/10/2003 4:06 AM

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:10:31 -0600, "John Hightower"
<[email protected]> pixelated:

>So I'm going through all of my grandfathers old tools that have been in
>storage for umpteen years-probably since the 50's. There are several wooden
>chests full of stuff ranging from planes to chisels and gouges, and even an
>old transit. I'm trying to sort and collate everything into some kind of a
>managable list. There are about 16 planes in the collection- most in good
>condition- a couple with some rust where a roof leak dripped into the box
>they were in.
>
>I'm wondering how much "clean-up" one should or shouldn't do with these old

Do -less- cleanup than you would for those which might
show up on Canuckistani magazine covers, eh? ;)


>planes. the planes consist of a Stanley no.8; a Baily #8, 3 Baily #4's,
>Baily no. 5, Baily #6, 2 Stanley #10, a Stanley Rule and Level Co. no 113
>(radius plane with flexible sole), stanley #71 1/2 pat oct29, '01 mortise
>plane, stanley #1951 bevel plane, Stanley #40, a rabbiting plane with no mfg
>mark - patent march 4 '73, A stanley #50 rabbiting plane patent date sept
>11,'83, 3 unmarked wooden body moulding planes, and a stanley #82 (cabinet
>scrapper?). One of the #8's has a few areas of red-rust, two of the Baily
>#4's are missing the blade and the blade keeper, one of the stanley #10's is
>broken in 2 parts.

Unfortunately, that's common. Grandpa was a REAL woodworker.
Congrats on a most excellent gloat, suckah.


>I've not even tried to go throught the rest of the boxes yet- lots of saw
>set tools, a miter shear, hand grinder, and lots of chisels and gouges.
>
>any and all "send them to me and I'll dispose of them properly" offers will
>be ignored :-)

Aw, shoot.

IE

Iraxl Enb

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

03/10/2003 12:15 PM

sorry to point out, but those should be p.s., p.p.s., p.p.p.s. ...

i agree with the poster on all other points though!

irax.
p.s. p.s. represents 'post script'...

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

03/10/2003 10:42 PM

On 3 Oct 2003 10:11:54 -0700, [email protected] (Mike) wrote:

>you're SOL on the broken #10.

I've never had one that wasn't broken. I weld them - stick welder,
nickel rod, learn on a #4, not a #10

--
Smert' spamionam

JH

"John Hightower"

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

03/10/2003 8:22 AM


"larry in cinci" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John Hightower" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > So I'm going through all of my grandfathers old tools that have been in
> snip of post that makes me drool even if it's not a gloat
> > > any and all "send them to me and I'll dispose of them properly" offers
> will
> > be ignored :-)
> >
> > jh
> >
> >
> You forgot to say cheerfully ignored. We must be proper about the small
> courtesies. Larry
>

my apologies- "will be cheerfully ignored :-)"

jh

JH

"John Hightower"

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

03/10/2003 4:08 PM


"Andy Dingley" wrote:
>
> I've never had one that wasn't broken. I weld them - stick welder,
> nickel rod, learn on a #4, not a #10
>
> --
I was thinking about that- I've got some pretty good welders working here.
What rod, specifically?

jh

hM

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

03/10/2003 10:11 AM

"John Hightower" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> So I'm going through all of my grandfathers old tools that have been in
> storage for umpteen years-probably since the 50's. There are several wooden
> chests full of stuff ranging from planes to chisels and gouges, and even an
> old transit. I'm trying to sort and collate everything into some kind of a
> managable list. There are about 16 planes in the collection- most in good
> condition- a couple with some rust where a roof leak dripped into the box
> they were in.
>
> I'm wondering how much "clean-up" one should or shouldn't do with these old
> planes. the planes consist of a Stanley no.8; a Baily #8, 3 Baily #4's,
> Baily no. 5, Baily #6, 2 Stanley #10, a Stanley Rule and Level Co. no 113
> (radius plane with flexible sole), stanley #71 1/2 pat oct29, '01 mortise
> plane, stanley #1951 bevel plane, Stanley #40, a rabbiting plane with no mfg
> mark - patent march 4 '73, A stanley #50 rabbiting plane patent date sept
> 11,'83, 3 unmarked wooden body moulding planes, and a stanley #82 (cabinet
> scrapper?). One of the #8's has a few areas of red-rust, two of the Baily
> #4's are missing the blade and the blade keeper, one of the stanley #10's is
> broken in 2 parts.
>
> I've not even tried to go throught the rest of the boxes yet- lots of saw
> set tools, a miter shear, hand grinder, and lots of chisels and gouges.
>
> any and all "send them to me and I'll dispose of them properly" offers will
> be ignored :-)

John,

You suck more than mere words can describe. But please post back with
the contents of the other chests so we can fairly evaluate the full
extent of your suckage.

Cheers,
Mike

p.s. Congratulations.

p.s.s. If you want want to sell anything to collectors, do not clean.
If you want to use them, clean up the rust with steel wool and WD40
or mineral spirits. Don't worry about getting anything shiny except
the business end of the cutters. I'm gonna make a guess that the
bench planes labeled "Stanley" on the bed are pre-1900. Also, the
missing parts for the #4s should be reasonably easy to replace but
you're SOL on the broken #10.

p.s.s.s. You suck!

hM

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

03/10/2003 3:00 PM

Iraxl Enb <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> sorry to point out, but those should be p.s., p.p.s., p.p.p.s. ...

D'oh!

Don't be sorry. I appreciate the correction.

> i agree with the poster on all other points though!
>
> irax.
> p.s. p.s. represents 'post script'...

So that's what it stands for.

Cheers,
Mike

hM

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

04/10/2003 8:19 AM

"John Hightower" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Andy Dingley" wrote:
> >
> > I've never had one that wasn't broken. I weld them - stick welder,
> > nickel rod, learn on a #4, not a #10

Come to think of it, the #10 Mike Dunbar is pictured using in his
"Restoring Old WW Tools" book has been brazed at the obvious location.

I have a #140 (rabbet/rebate block plane) with a cracked lever cap
that I hope to get repaired someday. But I know I'll never have the
skill/experience to tackle it myself.

> I was thinking about that- I've got some pretty good welders working here.
> What rod, specifically?

Good luck and please let us know how it works out.

Cheers,
Mike - who luckily only had to replace the tote on his #10

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

04/10/2003 10:55 AM

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:08:09 -0600, "John Hightower"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I was thinking about that- I've got some pretty good welders working here.
>What rod, specifically?

Don't ask me - I'm no expert !

Mine are "trualloy 80", which is just one maker's name for them. If
you ask at any decent welding shop for "nickel rods for repairing cast
iron", then you;ll find them. If you're lucky, they may even sell you
a dozen, rather than a whole box - they're expensive, and few people
need a whole boxful.

sci.engr.joining.welding is an excellent ng., with people in it who
know far more than I do.


--
Smert' spamionam

li

"larry in cinci"

in reply to "John Hightower" on 02/10/2003 6:10 PM

02/10/2003 11:50 PM


"John Hightower" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I'm going through all of my grandfathers old tools that have been in
snip of post that makes me drool even if it's not a gloat
> > any and all "send them to me and I'll dispose of them properly" offers
will
> be ignored :-)
>
> jh
>
>
You forgot to say cheerfully ignored. We must be proper about the small
courtesies. Larry


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