I don't post much here, sice I'm too busy listening and learning. My
brother is an ad exec for an advertising agency and asked me for help
in getting some responses for a survey he has out on the web. I've
taken it: it takes about 2 minutes and there is no personally
identifiable info gathered during the survey. I know this group has a
large contingent of coffee drinkers, so I hope you don't mind clicking
on the link and helping my brother with his research.
https://surveys.supersurvey.com/cgi-bin/surveys/s15825.pl
Thanks in advance,
Bill
In article <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Carling Black Label? Too young to try it in it's heyday.
Yeah, me too, but the Carling Brewery in Winnipeg was a prominent north
end landmark so I remember it well.
djb
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:36:45 GMT, "George"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Old Style is my favorite beer for Mexican cooking. Heavy, full-flavored,
>and willing to give up some of that to the chicken I'm using for fajitas
>enchiladas.
>
>The 3.2% Strohs of my youth was anything but strong, but in those days we
>went to Ohio to drink it anyway.
Then you probably had Buckeye beer, too.
I grew up in the tap room!
Have a nice week...
Trent
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Gnube wrote:
> In the very early days, they had a meal to go - i.e. the main course
> (as you described) was at one end and a dessert at the other, like
> stewed fruit with custard or treacle at the other!
I love the ones with the partition in the middle. The only way you get
like that though is to make them yourself or go to a person who'll do it
for you. Store and such just don't take the time and care. Besides, a
machine'd probably put the decoration on the wrong end.
Dave in Fairfax
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 14:26:01 GMT, Scott Cramer
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> The only difference is I like Vernor's and I can't take Moxie! (My wife
>> tells me its an acquired taste.)
>
> It would be easier to acquire a taste for paint stripper than for
>Moxie. Think unsweetened Coca-Cola that's been filtered through plug
>tobacco. And peed in.
It is 50 years since I tasted any soft drink, but I did like Moxie in
my early teens. Now I am curious. Next time I am in New England
(Sept.) I will look for it, and see if I like it now.
Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a
"Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison
"George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Think the Beartrap carries Muldoon's pasties. Not bad. If not you can get
>'em in Munising. These are standard filling - meat, potato, carrot, onion,
>and perhaps rutabaga.
>
>For a real treat try Jean Kay's in Marquette. They make a veggie version to
>die for.
Thanks. I'll stop at the Beartrap next time I am up there. Put a note
in my palm about Jean Kay's incase I make it there.
Wes
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>My wife says she wants pickeled bologna. Don't have that here either.
>Dave in Fairfax
Have you looked hard enough. I visited Washington DC in 1996 and I
thought I saw it. Wife would not let me buy it. Crackers, pickeled
ring bologna and cheese with a beer. Heaven.
Wes
BTW
There has to be a recipe on web to make it. Hold on... Going to try
some pickled turkey kiebasa with this recipe.
http://www.hungrybrowser.com/phaedrus/m012302.htm#2
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claims:
<snip> My brother is an ad exec for an advertising agency <snip> so I
hope you don't mind clicking on the link and helping my brother with his
research.
Me? Try to elp one of the same type of people that are writing
those really, really, stupid commercials on TV? Yes, I do mind, I mind
a lot. There's a place in Hell reserved for ad people.
By the way, I'm not taking the survey.
JOAT
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[email protected] wrote:
>>Pabst blue ribbon.
>>>
>>Maybe even Olympia Gold
>
> Milwalkee's Best?
I'll be really surprised if there's a beer that tastes worse than Beast
Light.
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:16:08 +0000, TexasFireGuy wrote:
>> : You give Starbucks a lot of credit I would put them in the league with
> Pabst blue ribbon.
>>
>>
> Maybe even Olympia Gold
After 35 years as an employee at the Oly brewery in Oly WA, my dear
departed FIL must be spinning as the original OLY brewery is shut down and
vacant.
-Doug
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:49:36 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>>Pabst blue ribbon.
>>>>
>>>Maybe even Olympia Gold
>>
>> Milwalkee's Best?
>
>I'll be really surprised if there's a beer that tastes worse than Beast
>Light.
Coors is the worse beer I've tasted, yet I've met some who say that's
the best. My favorite is Stroh's (yeah I know it a strong beer), but
that brand is not available in the South.
:-(
<[email protected] writes:
<snip>
> If I was still in Indiana I'd drive up to Wester MI
> and get them in Kalamazoo or Muskegon, but out here in VA, they don't
> even know what they are.
Doesn't surprise me at all, ethnic foods are very regional, but you do have
Smithfield hams, and that's not too shabby when it comes to comfort food,
especially in beans, any kind of beans.
Add a little corn bread, and you are dining at the pearly gates.
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Doesn't surprise me at all, ethnic foods are very regional, but you do have
> Smithfield hams, and that's not too shabby when it comes to comfort food,
> especially in beans, any kind of beans.
> Add a little corn bread, and you are dining at the pearly gates.
> Lew
I'd go along with that, 'specially if I can bust some sausage into my
grits and sprinkle some chees on top... My daughter looks at me funny,
but it sure tastes good. For a girl born and bred in Va she sure has
some big city ways. I swear it's not my fault, it's these yuppies from
god-knows-where that are all over here.
I still want my pasties though.
Dave in Fairfax
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Dave responds:
>> Doesn't surprise me at all, ethnic foods are very regional, but you do have
>> Smithfield hams, and that's not too shabby when it comes to comfort food,
>> especially in beans, any kind of beans.
>> Add a little corn bread, and you are dining at the pearly gates.
>> Lew
>
>I'd go along with that, 'specially if I can bust some sausage into my
>grits and sprinkle some chees on top... My daughter looks at me funny,
>but it sure tastes good. For a girl born and bred in Va she sure has
>some big city ways. I swear it's not my fault, it's these yuppies from
>god-knows-where that are all over here.
>I still want my pasties though.
My mother was from Louisa County (just outside Gordonsville, VA), but I never
even heard of grits until I went to military school in SC...this was pre-Parris
Island. Georgia ice cream. No thanks. I prefer my corn on the cob.
But salt-cured ham is ethnic food, especially with cornbread. Just that WASP
ain't considered ethnic these days.
Charlie Self
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." George W. Bush,
Greater Nashua,N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000
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Charlie Self wrote:
> My mother was from Louisa County (just outside Gordonsville, VA), but I never
> even heard of grits until I went to military school in SC...this was pre-Parris
> Island. Georgia ice cream. No thanks. I prefer my corn on the cob.
> But salt-cured ham is ethnic food, especially with cornbread. Just that WASP
> ain't considered ethnic these days.
> Charlie Self
Wasp IS ethic, but if you're male you're not allowed to say so. Too bad
you never got a chance to get accustomed to grits. Made properly
they're great, made badly they're construction goods. Parris Island
shoulda made good ones though, a big part of the trick is you have to
make a large amount at one time to get it to taste right, single
servings just don't cut it. But I do love ham. %-)
Dave in Fairfax
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> snip
> Charlie Self wrote:
>> My mother was from Louisa County (just outside Gordonsville, VA), but I
>> never even heard of grits until I went to military school in SC...this
I grew up in southwestern Virginia, and I never ate a grit until a trip to
South Carolina myself.
Probably why all my friends from the "real" south call me a Yankee, even
though Virginia was the capital of the CSA dammit.
> Wasp IS ethic, but if you're male you're not allowed to say so. Too bad
Got that right. If you're a white anglo dude, you're not allowed to have an
opinion on anything. You might insult or downtrod someone.
> shoulda made good ones though, a big part of the trick is you have to
> make a large amount at one time to get it to taste right, single
And use about six or seven pounds of butter. Mmmmm....
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Silvan writes:
>> shoulda made good ones though, a big part of the trick is you have to
>> make a large amount at one time to get it to taste right, single
>
>And use about six or seven pounds of butter. Mmmmm....
I've never understood why anyone would want to louse up the butter that way.
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"Charlie Self" writes:
> I've never understood why anyone would want to louse up the butter that
way.
I'm with you, I can't handle grits or corn on the cob any more.
A few years ago, was roasting some ears of corn on the grill one night at
the Port Stanley, Ontario Yacht Club, when the care taker, a local school
teacher originally from Germany walked by, looked at the corn and declared,
"Pig Food".
You see, humans can't digest corn, it just passes straight thru.
Had never stopped to think about it before.
Haven't wasted time eating corn since.
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Mon, Aug 4, 2003, 1:19am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Lew=A0Hodgett) says:
A few years ago, was roasting some ears of corn on the grill one night
at the Port Stanley, Ontario Yacht Club, when the care taker, a local
school teacher originally from Germany walked by, looked at the corn and
declared, "Pig Food".
You see, humans can't digest corn, it just passes straight thru.
Had never stopped to think about it before.
Haven't wasted time eating corn since.
I'm sure humans get some nourishment from corn, after all, humans
are omnivores.
Years ago, I worked for a captain in the Army. He was an E-7 when
he participated in the Normandy Invasion. In fact, he said his picture
was on the cover of Life Magazine, getting ready to disembark, he didn't
even know it was being taken. Apparently it was taken because he was
carrying enought arms and ammo for about 3 people, Thompson, pistol,
flamethrower, gernades, and I don't know what all else. He later got a
battlefield commission. At time he was a very scary individual to be
around. LOL
Anyway, he said his squad was in Germany, while the war was still
on, with starving Germans all around. Fields of corn, just at the
cooking stage, but the Germans wouldn't touch it, "pig food". His squad
was picking corn as fast as they could, and had found a big pot and
started cooking fresh corn on the cob, and eating it about as fast as
they had picked it. Apparently all they had was Cs for awhile. The
locals thought they were nuts, and wouldn't touch it. Finally they
grabbed some guy, and forced some corn on him. He thought they were
trying to poison him. Until the taste of the first bite got thru. He
said when they left, every German in sight was picking corn as fast as
they could.
I got that story direct from the man himself. Somehow the military
got his paperwork lost, so he was a captain for years, and never got
promoted. But when he retired, they retired him as a major.
One day maybe I'll tell the story of how he missed out on maybe
being a millionaire.
He scared the crap out of me most of the time, but was a great guy.
He pushed thru a promotion for me, the day I left for Germany.
A lot of Germans still won't eat corn.
An interesting read, is about the Russians, them starving, with
sorage units full of grain. Seems it wasn't ground info flour, so they
didn't recognize it as food.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Mon, Aug 4, 2003, 1:19am (EDT+4) [email protected]
> (Lew=A0Hodgett) says:
> A few years ago, was roasting some ears of corn on the grill one night
> at the Port Stanley, Ontario Yacht Club, when the care taker, a local
> school teacher originally from Germany walked by, looked at the corn and
> declared, "Pig Food".
> You see, humans can't digest corn, it just passes straight thru.
> Had never stopped to think about it before.
> Haven't wasted time eating corn since.
>
> I'm sure humans get some nourishment from corn, after all, humans
> are omnivores.
>
Actually pigs can't digest corn very well either unless it is ground
or they have cracked it while chewing (whole kernels pass right
through). That's why farmers have grinder/mixers: to make the grains
more digest-able and thus get more nutrition per dollar spent on feed --
works the same for humans too, whole corn passes through, ground corn
(or chewed well) will be digested.
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 01:19:45 +0000, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> I'm with you, I can't handle grits or corn on the cob any more.
>
> A few years ago, was roasting some ears of corn on the grill one night at
> the Port Stanley, Ontario Yacht Club, when the care taker, a local school
> teacher originally from Germany walked by, looked at the corn and declared,
> "Pig Food".
>
> You see, humans can't digest corn, it just passes straight thru.
>
> Had never stopped to think about it before.
>
> Haven't wasted time eating corn since.
Then, it ought'a be great for dieting - fills you up but doesn't stick :-)
I still like my (sweet) corn on the cob cooked on the barbie.
-Doug
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> You obviously have spent a little time further south than Fairfax.
> I mean you're talking about real s**t kick'in grub now, son.
> You don't find that stuff in Yankee land.<G>
> BTW, I make my own sausage, these folks in California don't have a clue when
> it comes to sausage.
> Don't want to start a war with our neighbors to the south, but chorizo
> doesn't do it for me.
> --
> Lew
When I hunted deer I used to make my own sausage all the time. Nowadays
I just put burger and pork together with fennel and sage and fake it.
You're right though about the chorizos. They're OK in their place but
it isn't next to eggs.
I put one of those "I Love GRITS" bumper sticks on the rubbermaid box in
the back of my truck - the one for groceries, so they don't go sliding
under the toolboxes, and she went ballistic on me. "That's
disrespectful for girls!" Girls Raised In The South - GRITS. 'Course
her rabbits outsmart her by heading her off at the door to her room so
they can get out and roam the house. I swear the predator gene skipped
a generation or something. Outsmarted my a rabbit - Where'd I go wrong!
Dave in Fairfax
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>
> snip
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> > Doesn't surprise me at all, ethnic foods are very regional, but you do have
> > Smithfield hams, and that's not too shabby when it comes to comfort food,
> > especially in beans, any kind of beans.
> > Add a little corn bread, and you are dining at the pearly gates.
> > Lew
>
> I'd go along with that, 'specially if I can bust some sausage into my
> grits and sprinkle some chees on top... My daughter looks at me funny,
> but it sure tastes good. For a girl born and bred in Va she sure has
> some big city ways. I swear it's not my fault, it's these yuppies from
> god-knows-where that are all over here.
> I still want my pasties though.
> Dave in Fairfax
>
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Here ya go Dave:
PASTIES
Crust:
8 Cups of flour
3 1/2 cups shortening (Crisco)
2 tsp. salt
1 cup water
2 large eggs
2 Tablespoons vinegar
Mix flour, shortening and salt well and add remaining ingredients. Do
not handle dough more than necessary. Roll out dough into 9 inch
circles. Put 8 - 10 ounces of pastie mixture on half of the dough,
put a small pat of BUTTER on top of pastie mixture. Fold over top:
tuck dough under the ingredients with side of hand. Fold crust up:
crimp like pie crust. Carefully put each pastie on a cookie sheet.
(Make an EGG wash: 1 large egg and 1/2 cup water,beat well). Brush
each pastie with egg wash and make a small slit the top of each pastie
for steam to escape. Bake 45 to 60 minutes at 400 degree oven. Makes
10 - 12 Pasties. (Can make Pastie Pies)
PASTIE MIXTURE:
2 1/2 lbs. cubed round steak or ground pastie meat
2 1/2 lbs. cubed (small) rutabaga
1 1/2 lbs. cubed carrots
2 1/2 lbs. cubed potatoes
3 large Onions, chopped.
Salt and pepper to taste
They serve this with catsup, or you could use beef gravy. Also serve
with coleslaw. The smell of these baking is to die for!
Enjoy!
Scott
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Scott Brownell wrote:
> LOL, after sending that off to you and then reading more of the thread I
> stopped at Harding's this afternoon (I live in Kalamazoo) and bought me
> a pasty for dinner tonight! I see that you're making up a batch of them
> today, be sure to let us know how they turned out. Celebrating 10 yrs.
> of singlehood this week so I don't cook from scratch much any more, even
> though I do enjoy it.
>
> Scott
I lived in Portage for most of my childhood, where in Kalamazoo do you
live I see 3 Brownells, but no Scott. Which Harding's did you go to, I
worked in a couple of them when i was in HS? The filling came out
great, a little bland, but it's fixable, the shell was flaky, but to a
fault. Hard to pick up. I'll try again. Sorry about the singlehood,
I'd send you my ex's address so that she could cook for you, but the
high point of her cooking was "Does unwrap mean take the plastic off or
leave it on?" Honest.
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Silvan wrote:
> Seems like a lot of trouble to make something a stripper is just going to
> stick onto her tits. I never realized pasties were so complicated.
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
I can't help it.
Sounds like you've never had one. %-)
I'll let everybody work out their own substitute for the pronoun.
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>
> I lived in Portage for most of my childhood, where in Kalamazoo do you
> live I see 3 Brownells, but no Scott. Which Harding's did you go to, I
> worked in a couple of them when i was in HS? The filling came out
> great, a little bland, but it's fixable, the shell was flaky, but to a
> fault. Hard to pick up. I'll try again. Sorry about the singlehood,
> I'd send you my ex's address so that she could cook for you, but the
> high point of her cooking was "Does unwrap mean take the plastic off or
> leave it on?" Honest.
> Dave in Fairfax
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I grew up in Portage, graduated in '65. Dad & youngest brother both live
on Austin Lake and the middle brother lives west of Vicksburg. I knew
Mel Harding, went to school & graduated with his daughter, Judy. She
owns the H&B store across from West Lake. Tom Harding is president of
the Harding stores now, AFAIK. The store I went to is in Osthemo, just
the typical nice little store that they've always been, I hate Meijer's
etc. because of the hubbub. When I was in HS I worked at Family
Foods..long gone now but maybe you remember.
I live 6 miles west of US 131, and about a mile south of M-43, on 10
acres. Old farmouse with a separate 24x24 shop that I've hardly seen the
inside of over the past 8 months, been helping my 1st wife of 30+ years
ago (had 2 of them critters..don't need no 'mo..LOL!) with a house she
purchased..the closest I've been to doing woodworking for the past 6
months was last week when I screwed down better than half of a 16x16
deck that the previous owner had installed a screw here & there on, and
then reworking/repairing a small 8x8 yard shed. Did I mention I HATE
wallpapering??
Glad to hear the pasty's came out reasonably well. Like you say, it all
sounds fixable. I looked at the packaging on the one I bought yesterday
and it listed a website: www.pasty.com. It was really good! Weight was
15 oz., cost me $2.49. 45 minutes in the toaster oven & I was in heaven!
Small world! Wouldn't happen to have a sister named Barb would you?
Scott
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Silvan wrote:
>
> Scott Brownell wrote:
>
> > PASTIES
> >
> > Crust:
> > 8 Cups of flour
> > 3 1/2 cups shortening (Crisco)
> > 2 tsp. salt
> > 1 cup water
> > 2 large eggs
> > 2 Tablespoons vinegar
>
> Seems like a lot of trouble to make something a stripper is just going to
> stick onto her tits. I never realized pasties were so complicated.
>
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Yeah but then you get to eat it..you tell me if it's worth it or not.
LOL!!!
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> snip
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I will have to try those out one of these days. I live in the
>>northern lower penninsula and when I head up to Melstrand in UP I hit
>>a smoked fish place on US 2 and never had room for a pasty. Maybe
>>next year.
>>
>>What are in those things?
>>
>>Wes
>
>
> They started out as Cornish miners' food. The original sandwich to go.
> A pastry shell, with a meat and veggie inside.
Bit of history.
Originally called a "Tiddy-Oggy", they were miners food in the tin mines
of Cornwall, the case was NOT eaten (would YOU want to eat it all when
you can't clean your hands of mining crud)
Steve
Scott Brownell wrote:
> PASTIES
>
> Crust:
> 8 Cups of flour
> 3 1/2 cups shortening (Crisco)
> 2 tsp. salt
> 1 cup water
> 2 large eggs
> 2 Tablespoons vinegar
Seems like a lot of trouble to make something a stripper is just going to
stick onto her tits. I never realized pasties were so complicated.
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Think the Beartrap carries Muldoon's pasties. Not bad. If not you can get
'em in Munising. These are standard filling - meat, potato, carrot, onion,
and perhaps rutabaga.
For a real treat try Jean Kay's in Marquette. They make a veggie version to
die for.
<[email protected]> wrote in message >
> I will have to try those out one of these days. I live in the
> northern lower penninsula and when I head up to Melstrand in UP I hit
> a smoked fish place on US 2 and never had room for a pasty. Maybe
> next year.
>
> What are in those things?
<[email protected]> writes:
> The inside
> counts for alot, but a good crust is imperative. I think I was using
> lad rather than crisco, but I was young and immortal then. %-)
You mean there is a pie crust on this planet not made with lard that doesn't
taste like rejected shoe leather?
Lard, cold water and not kneading the dough to death are as basic to a good
pie crust as breathing is to staying alive IMHO.
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Scott Brownell wrote:
>> Seems like a lot of trouble to make something a stripper is just going to
>> stick onto her tits. I never realized pasties were so complicated.
> Yeah but then you get to eat it..you tell me if it's worth it or not.
> LOL!!!
Not around here you don't. They just tease you with them for awhile, and
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[email protected] wrote:
>Got exiled to Bloomington, my sympathy, but right now I'd about kill for
>some UP Brand Pasties.
>Dave in Fairfax
I will have to try those out one of these days. I live in the
northern lower penninsula and when I head up to Melstrand in UP I hit
a smoked fish place on US 2 and never had room for a pasty. Maybe
next year.
What are in those things?
Wes
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> As along as we are talking about beers, does anybody remember:
Or, in Kanuckistan:
"Hey, Mabel! Black Label!"
djb
--
"I'm a man, but I can change... If I have to... I guess." -- Red Green
In article <H0%[email protected]>,
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Collectively, they represent the standard of mediocority.
Why is drinking American beer like making love in a canoe?
djb
--
"It's not bragging if you can back it up." -- Muhammad Ali
WCD wrote:
> Phisherman wrote:
>
> >>
> >>I'll be really surprised if there's a beer that tastes worse than Beast
> >>Light.
>
> I guess you've never drunk the swill they call beer in ohio. Its amazing
> they could have that many people from Germany there and none of them
> know how to make beer!!
There's a good local brewery a block from the West Side Market in
Cleveland that's pretty good. Not as good as the local beer I had in
Hanover, Germany but still, a lot better than the canned carbonated
water that is sold as beer in the US.
ARM
"Bill Hodgson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't post much here, sice I'm too busy listening and learning. My
> on the link and helping my brother with his research.
> https://surveys.supersurvey.com/cgi-bin/surveys/s15825.pl
>
Ok - done. Tell your brother the survey seems alittle skewed/broken. For
example, I happen to think Starbucks coffee is *crap*. Overroasted. The
original Peet's kicks their booty - odd given the history between Peets and
'Bucks.
But the survey made me imply that the reason I don't go to 'Bucks is
ambiance.
I don't care how many of the stores they build - their beans are awful and
there are too many microroasters out there doing a much better job. IMHO -
Starbucks is the "Michelob"; better than Bud but can't hold a candle to a
good microbrew.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:11:25 GMT, [email protected] (Doug
Miller)Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
snip
>>You give Starbucks a lot of credit I would put them in the league with Pabst
>> blue ribbon.
>
>*You* give them too much credit yourself -- I'd put them in the same league
>with Rhinelander, which has to be the worst beer in North America.
>
tsk tsk
wassamatter wit good cheesehead beer?
beats budweiser or them heavy dark english brews, and we wont even get
into the canukistani concoctions
Traves
*G*
"tnfkajs" writes:
> No one's mentioned Old Style...
> That's the Blue Collar Brew that I miss most these days...
As you drive around Milwaukee, you will find at least one tavern (bar) at
every street intersection, usually on the ground floor with an apartment on
the 2nd floor.
Some towns have gas stations, Milwaukee has bars.
The sign hanging outside, in addition to identifying the name of the
establishment, also advertised Old Style.
BTW, you can often get Old Style in Southern California, but I must admit
haven't seen it for a couple of years.
As along as we are talking about beers, does anybody remember:
"Old Frothingslosh, the pale, stale, ale with the foam on the bottom" as
well as "Miss Frothingslosh" who was selected for the Christmas
Frothingslosh season?
Young ladies who weighed less than 400 lbs need not apply.
Anybody from Pittsburgh area on the list? They should remember "Old
Frothingslosh".
Can't remember exactly, but think it was a Christmas promotion of Iron City.
--
Lew
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On 7/26/03 12:57 PM, in article [email protected],
"Larry Jaques" <jake@di/ersify.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:15:12 GMT, "TexasFireGuy"
> <[email protected]> pixelated:
>
>> One of the local stores took out the Seattle's Best coffee shop and put in a
>> Starbuck's shop. Their business went to shit. Imagine that.
>
> I'm buying the best beans I've ever tasted at Costco.
> 3 pounds for $8.99 of Seattle Mountain Drum Roasted
> Sumatran beans, a deep, dark, rich, non-bitter Arabica.
>
> Now if they only came in decaf... I now mix it 50/50 with
> decaf Great Value beans from WallyWorld. The Seattle beans
> are so good that the cheap (#3/$4.97) beans don't kill 'em.
>
> I'm a registered coffee addict who has beren known to, um,
> c*ll*ct a tool or three.
I don't drink a lot of coffee but when I do, I go cheap. My two favorite
brands are (I'm not kidding here) White Castle and Thomas. White Castle is
exactly what you may think - the same stuff that they serve at White Castle
burger joints. Thomas coffee is a local coffee here in St. Louis, I've
never seen it anywhere else, but it's fairly cheap and quite tasty.
Ben Sliders notes:
>I don't drink a lot of coffee but when I do, I go cheap. My two favorite
>brands are (I'm not kidding here) White Castle and Thomas. White Castle is
>exactly what you may think - the same stuff that they serve at White Castle
>burger joints. Thomas coffee is a local coffee here in St. Louis, I've
>never seen it anywhere else, but it's fairly cheap and quite tasty.
I'm really a little like JOAT, except I do drink a lot of coffee. Not as much
as I used to, but that's life. Learned to drink it on USMC brand, whatever that
was/is. I made a decision years ago to stick with Maxwell House. I figure in
not going with the upscale brews, I've saved thousands of bucks over the years,
and, as my father used to say, since I don't know what I'm missing, I ain't
missing it.
Tried Starbucks some time ago, in an airport. My only reaction was, "Why
bother?"
Charlie Self
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the
people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent
and sudden usurpations."
James Madison
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm really a little like JOAT, except I do drink a lot of coffee. Not as
much
> as I used to, but that's life. Learned to drink it on USMC brand, whatever
that
> was/is. I made a decision years ago to stick with Maxwell House. I figure
in
> not going with the upscale brews, I've saved thousands of bucks over the
years,
> and, as my father used to say, since I don't know what I'm missing, I
ain't
> missing it.
>
> Tried Starbucks some time ago, in an airport. My only reaction was, "Why
> bother?"
Went on a canoeing/camping trip several years back where we the other
members did the outfitting instead of using someone else. They chose the
coffee -- Starbucks which had to include their coffee press and other
paraphernalia. One of the things about canoeing/camping is you carry
everything and the portages on this trip were definitely no fun. I didn't
begrudge the cost of it but I sure begrudged the space and weight by the end
of the second week especially since the coffee really wasn't very good
anyway. You have saved lots of money and haven't missed a thing.
Scratch Ankle Wood responds:
>Starbucks which had to include their coffee press and other
>paraphernalia. One of the things about canoeing/camping is you carry
>everything and the portages on this trip were definitely no fun. I didn't
>begrudge the cost of it but I sure begrudged the space and weight by the end
>of the second week especially since the coffee really wasn't very good
>anyway. You have saved lots of money and haven't missed a thing.
>
Sounds like a joy, it does. Do you mean absolutely no one would have looked at
me with admiration for drinking yuppie coffeee?
Charlie Self
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the
people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent
and sudden usurpations."
James Madison
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Scratch Ankle Wood responds:
>
> >Starbucks which had to include their coffee press and other
> >paraphernalia. One of the things about canoeing/camping is you carry
> >everything and the portages on this trip were definitely no fun. I
didn't
> >begrudge the cost of it but I sure begrudged the space and weight by the
end
> >of the second week especially since the coffee really wasn't very good
> >anyway. You have saved lots of money and haven't missed a thing.
> >
>
> Sounds like a joy, it does. Do you mean absolutely no one would have
looked at
> me with admiration for drinking yuppie coffeee?
Don't know about that -- lots seem to admire that coffee and look
suspiciously at anyone who doesn't. My partners in the trip were sure
impressed with it as was my friend's wife who took me on a quick tour of the
immediate Chicago area they lived in while he was tied up in a meeting.
That included a stop at Starbucks. And it seemed like about half of his
congregation was in there when we walked in leading to some kidding around
with the minister on Sunday about me and his wife being out on the town
together.
At any rate, you would think if it is such good coffee, making it with pure
mountain lake water (filter purifying rather than by boiling or chemical
means) would make it simply irresistible. For my money it didn't. I
suspect that the problem lies in the fact that I have no class.
Scratch Ankle Wood writes:
>At any rate, you would think if it is such good coffee, making it with pure
>mountain lake water (filter purifying rather than by boiling or chemical
>means) would make it simply irresistible. For my money it didn't. I
>suspect that the problem lies in the fact that I have no class.
>
Know what you mean. I've got the same problem. It's really enjoyable.
Charlie Self
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the
people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent
and sudden usurpations."
James Madison
Agree, but that other Detroit icon, Vernors, is still a favorite at our
house.
"tshiker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Hell of a waste of good Strohs.
>
> Sorry But there's no such thing as a "Good" Strohs.
> lol
> Tom
"Glen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Ah yes, that classic line from an old C/W tune whose name escapes me at
> the
> > moment, "... They all get better looking at closing time".
And the classic hangover line: "I went to bed at 2:00 with a *10* and woke
up at 10:00 with a *2*!
Nahmie
"Phisherman" writes:
> >>>Pabst blue ribbon.
Prefer Pabst Genuine Draft
> >>>Maybe even Olympia Gold
Ye gads, that doesn't even qualify as bad goat discharge.
> >> Milwalkee's Best?
May an unclean camel take up residence in your front yard.
> Coors is the worse beer I've tasted, yet I've met some who say that's
> the best.
Add Millers and Budweiser and you have a trio of products the represent the
waste stream of a malcontented horse.
Collectively, they represent the standard of mediocority.
>My favorite is Stroh's (yeah I know it a strong beer), but
> that brand is not available in the South.
> :-(
Haven't been in Detroit for almost 20 years, but even back then the brewery
downtown was just about closed. Heard they knocked it down after the family
sold out.
One thing about it, you had a hell of a time trying to get served Stroh's in
a bar in Detroit.
Was almost as bad as trying to get served a Carling Black Label in
Cleveland.
--
Lew
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In article <[email protected]>, Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>>Pabst blue ribbon.
>>>>
>>>Maybe even Olympia Gold
>>
>> Milwalkee's Best?
>
>I'll be really surprised if there's a beer that tastes worse than Beast
>Light.
>
Ever had a Rhinelander?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
Save the baby humans - stop partial-birth abortion NOW
"Benjamin Siders writes:
> I don't drink a lot of coffee but when I do, I go cheap. My two favorite
> brands are (I'm not kidding here) White Castle and Thomas.
<snip>
As the old saying goes, "I like my coffee like I like my women, Hot &
Black".
The only reason to ever venture into a White Castle, is to get a pack of
"sliders".
Screw the coffee.
Till you can nail a dozen "sliders" at a sitting, you are still a wimp.
--
Lew
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"George" writes:
> Folks took the kid from across the street and I to a game one evening,
only
> to have the kid get sick, then, on the way out, bump into a guy who
spilled
> his Strohs all over him.
<snip>
Hell of a waste of good Strohs.
--
Lew
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"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> Rhinelander's so bad, you can't even give it away.
>
> Some years ago, I was at a convention in Chicago, where they had
Rhinelander
> on tap in the hospitality suite -- free. After the first couple of sips, I
> headed over to the trash can to dispose of the rest. There must have been
> forty or fifty three-quarters-full cups in the trash already. *Nobody* had
> *two* beers, and they wound up with many kegs left over, and a bunch of
> pissed-off conventioneers.
>
Think I can beat that. Reminds of something I bought 7 or 8 years ago.
Living in a dry area of Kentucky, it was necessary to hit the road with a
neighbor and one of his friends. We stopped at a place 80 miles away
(closest place). As we looked over the selection we found something that
IIRC was called Lemon Lager -- 4 bottles for 99 cents and on sale for 79
cents. My neighbor is extremely cheap so he was looking this over with
great interest. One of the clerks came by and said in a low, forceful
voice, "Don't do it! Only a fool would buy that horse piss". Apparently he
didn't realize that some people are so cheap they'll buy anything as long as
it is cheap. On the other hand, my neighbor has also been referred to as a
fool also. We went to the check out counter with one carton of Lemon Lager
in the basket. The helpful clerk was now working the cash register. When
he got to the Lemon Lager, he looked at it, looked at us, and said, "I ain't
got the heart to charge you for that stuff" and shoved it through. We got
home and I took my haul with me while the Lemon Lager stayed with my
neighbor. He and his buddy got into it that night. The next morning, two
bottles were in my car with a note that the clerk was absolutely correct and
they didn't even swallow the one sip they took. I decided to try it after
all. I at least did swallow although I really don't know why I did. I took
the other bottle to a guy at work that will drink anything. I think he got
about 3 swallows before he quit.
Sat, Jul 26, 2003, 10:14pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Scratch=A0Ankle=A0Wood) says:
<snip> Lemon Lager <snip>
Don't know about the Lemon Lager, but the Rhinelander is bad.
Schmitz is as bad (no, I do NOT mean Schlitz), along with Blatz.
In Nam I liked Hamms. Hard to get tho, because Saigon would side
track it, and send the rest of the country the stuff they didn't like,
Blatz, etc. Got so the PX had to take two pallets of Blatz or whetever
to get one pallet of decent beer.
Budweiser? I don't think I ever saw a can north of Saigon.
Used to go out on the road, for up to a week. Would leave at least
one 6-pack of Hamms in my cooler. Come back, hot, dirty, wanting a
beer. My room-made would have drank all my beer, and left a 6-pack of
Schmitz - the only guy I have ever seen who drank that stuff by choice.
Then when I got back in the States, my old man was drinking only
Blatz. Yuck.
JOAT
Always put off until tomorrow something which, tomorrow, you could put
off until, let's say, next year.
- Lady Myria LeJean.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 23 Jul 2003. Some tunes I like.
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:47:59 -0500 (EST), [email protected] wrote:
>I just completed the survey. They sure didn't ask many questions about
>"coffee".
That's because it wasn't. Many psychology test are like that.
:-)
"Tom Watson" writes:
> I live closer to Philly than to P'burgh but we had the beauteous Miss
> Frothingslosh in the coolers around here.
>
> I remember that women started looking better towards last call but she
> prolly went home alone most nights.
Ah yes, that classic line from an old C/W tune whose name escapes me at the
moment, "... They all get better looking at closing time".
--
Lew
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Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
"Traves W. Coppock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> tsk tsk
> wassamatter wit good cheesehead beer?
Is this one of them oxymorons I've been hearing about?
Remember Billy Beer?
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>>Pabst blue ribbon.
> >>>>
> >>>Maybe even Olympia Gold
> >>
> >> Milwalkee's Best?
> >
> >I'll be really surprised if there's a beer that tastes worse than Beast
> >Light.
> >
> Ever had a Rhinelander?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>
> Save the baby humans - stop partial-birth abortion NOW
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 00:43:37 -0500, Traves W. Coppock
<[email protected]> mindlessly uttered:
>On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:11:25 GMT, [email protected] (Doug
>Miller)Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>>>You give Starbucks a lot of credit I would put them in the league with Pabst
>>> blue ribbon.
>>
>>*You* give them too much credit yourself -- I'd put them in the same league
>>with Rhinelander, which has to be the worst beer in North America.
>>
>
>tsk tsk
>wassamatter wit good cheesehead beer?
>
>beats budweiser or them heavy dark english brews, and we wont even get
>into the canukistani concoctions
I guess you don't know what Merkin beer has in common with making love
in a canoe. (Many fine local micro-brewery products excepted, of
course).
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:58:05 -0600, "tnfkajs" <[email protected]>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
snip
>
>No one's mentioned Old Style...
>That's the Blue Collar Brew that I miss most these days...
>
back in the day, Old Style was the beer of choice for 3 or 4 young
fellas on a "budget" (or pissed all my money away at the bars last
weekend, and i aint got but 4 bucks till payday) who wanted to sit on
the back bumper of a truck down by the lake and get tanked.
nowadays, its kinda turned into a yuppie favorite. . .shame
the stuff used to go for under 10$ a case, now they are gettin premium
price for that swill.
Traves, Eternal fan of Hamms beer
Thu, Jul 31, 2003, 1:19am (EDT-1) [email protected]
(Traves=A0W.=A0Coppock) says:
<snip> Traves, Eternal fan of Hamms beer
In the blue cans.
JOAT
Everything happens for a reason, except possibly football.
- Lu-Tze
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 23 Jul 2003. Some tunes I like.
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Charlie Self wrote:
>
> Traves writes:
>
> >nowadays, its kinda turned into a yuppie favorite. . .shame
> >the stuff used to go for under 10$ a case, now they are gettin premium
> >price for that swill.
>
> Sign of age, I guess. I remember working in a corner grocery store, while in
> college. Stocking the coolers with beer, at a buck a six pack for most brands
> (there were only about five, IIRC, none of them Coors). And Ballentine ale was
> 3 quarts for a buck. That little store used to do $900+ most nights, and my
> recollection was that most of it was in beer. Sure got sick of shifting six
> packs.
>
> Charlie Self
>
> "Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
> Dan Quayle
>
Thank you Charlie, I've been trying to remember that name ever since
this thread started! When I was in Nam the NCO Club couldn't give that
crap away for 5¢ a can! I remember trying it ONCE and that mouthful got
spit out. And Coors..hell you might as well drink water.
Scott
--
An unkind remark is like a killing frost. No matter how much it warms
up later, the damage remains.
Thu, Jul 31, 2003, 6:12pm [email protected] (Scott=A0Brownell) says:
<snip> When I was in Nam the NCO Club couldn't give that crap away for
5=A2 a can! <snip>
That's cause all the good stuff never left Saigon. I think it was
the weather or heat, of those brands that made it that far north, the
only one that tasted good was Hamms. And, even then two cans a day was
tops for me. Strange. Sure managed a few more than two a day on R&R.
Speaking of never leaving Saigon. We had it pretty good when the
mess hall got dried up roast beef to serve us. Went to Saigon TDY for a
day, and ate in the NCO mess. The lower rank mess. E5, 6, and 7. The
E-8s had a separate mess, as did the E-9s. Anyway, they had steak AND
lobster. Lots of it. I was the only one in the chow line, so stood
there looking. Cook asks what I want, and I say I'm deciding which. So
he tells me to take both. Unbelievable. Like I said, the roast beef
was about as good as it got for my unit, and that not so often. But, it
was roast beef the first day, hash the next, then spagetti sauce, and
soup the next. Definitely got a lot of mileage out of it.
JOAT
Everything happens for a reason, except possibly football.
- Lu-Tze
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 23 Jul 2003. Some tunes I like.
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Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT wrote:
>
> Thu, Jul 31, 2003, 6:12pm [email protected] (Scott Brownell) says:
> <snip> When I was in Nam the NCO Club couldn't give that crap away for
> 5¢ a can! <snip>
>
> That's cause all the good stuff never left Saigon. I think it was
> the weather or heat, of those brands that made it that far north, the
> only one that tasted good was Hamms. And, even then two cans a day was
> tops for me. Strange. Sure managed a few more than two a day on R&R.
>
I was stationed at DaNang AB and we were able to get just about any kind
of beer you wanted. I know I got my 3 cases of Bud every month without a
problem.
Scott
--
An unkind remark is like a killing frost. No matter how much it warms
up later, the damage remains.
One of the local stores took out the Seattle's Best coffee shop and put in a
Starbuck's shop. Their business went to shit. Imagine that.
"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bill Hodgson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I don't post much here, sice I'm too busy listening and learning. My
> > on the link and helping my brother with his research.
> > https://surveys.supersurvey.com/cgi-bin/surveys/s15825.pl
> >
>
> Ok - done. Tell your brother the survey seems alittle skewed/broken. For
> example, I happen to think Starbucks coffee is *crap*. Overroasted. The
> original Peet's kicks their booty - odd given the history between Peets
and
> 'Bucks.
>
> But the survey made me imply that the reason I don't go to 'Bucks is
> ambiance.
>
> I don't care how many of the stores they build - their beans are awful and
> there are too many microroasters out there doing a much better job.
IMHO -
> Starbucks is the "Michelob"; better than Bud but can't hold a candle to a
> good microbrew.
>
>
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:15:12 GMT, "TexasFireGuy"
<[email protected]> pixelated:
>One of the local stores took out the Seattle's Best coffee shop and put in a
>Starbuck's shop. Their business went to shit. Imagine that.
I'm buying the best beans I've ever tasted at Costco.
3 pounds for $8.99 of Seattle Mountain Drum Roasted
Sumatran beans, a deep, dark, rich, non-bitter Arabica.
Now if they only came in decaf... I now mix it 50/50 with
decaf Great Value beans from WallyWorld. The Seattle beans
are so good that the cheap (#3/$4.97) beans don't kill 'em.
I'm a registered coffee addict who has beren known to, um,
c*ll*ct a tool or three.
--------------------------------------------
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============================================================
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 02:36:53 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>As along as we are talking about beers, does anybody remember:
>
>"Old Frothingslosh, the pale, stale, ale with the foam on the bottom" as
>well as "Miss Frothingslosh" who was selected for the Christmas
>Frothingslosh season?
>
>Young ladies who weighed less than 400 lbs need not apply.
>
>Anybody from Pittsburgh area on the list? They should remember "Old
>Frothingslosh".
>
>Can't remember exactly, but think it was a Christmas promotion of Iron City.
I live closer to Philly than to P'burgh but we had the beauteous Miss
Frothingslosh in the coolers around here.
I remember that women started looking better towards last call but she
prolly went home alone most nights.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson - Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message:
<snipped>
> Till you can nail a dozen "sliders" at a sitting, you are still a wimp.
My northern exposure to NY year before last was going to White Castle for
the highlight (and the first time in over 12 years.) 26 sliders Lew. 26!
Jums
"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
:
: "Bill Hodgson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: news:[email protected]...
: > I don't post much here, sice I'm too busy listening and learning. My
: > on the link and helping my brother with his research.
: > https://surveys.supersurvey.com/cgi-bin/surveys/s15825.pl
: >
:
: Ok - done. Tell your brother the survey seems alittle skewed/broken. For
: example, I happen to think Starbucks coffee is *crap*. Overroasted. The
: original Peet's kicks their booty - odd given the history between Peets and
: 'Bucks.
:
: But the survey made me imply that the reason I don't go to 'Bucks is
: ambiance.
:
: I don't care how many of the stores they build - their beans are awful and
: there are too many microroasters out there doing a much better job. IMHO -
: Starbucks is the "Michelob"; better than Bud but can't hold a candle to a
: good microbrew.
:
: You give Starbucks a lot of credit I would put them in the league with Pabst blue ribbon.
[email protected] wrote:
>I just completed the survey. They sure didn't ask many questions about
>"coffee".
Hope I didn't hurt the guys feelings since I've never been in a
Starbucks and my ethinicity is US Citizen.
Wes
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Scott Cramer <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 25 Jul 2003, Bill Hodgson spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
>> https://surveys.supersurvey.com/cgi-bin/surveys/s15825.pl
>
>Interesting that one of the choices for ethnic background is 'REFUSE'.
>
>Is the accent supposed to be on the first or second syllable?
Considering the questions about Starbucks, I am supprized the question
on gender wasn't Male, female, transistioning.
Wes
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"Ernie Jurick" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Jim Mc Namara" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Hmmm - I was spammed by Supersurvey for the ongest time - one of those
>"Get
>> paid for taking surveys on the internet" gimmicks.
>>
>> No thanks - I drink it - but just don't want to talk about it.
>
>Wise move. It's a personal info trap.
>-- Ernie
>
I did not see an alert that it was setting a cookie but maybe my IE6
configuration isn't as tight as I thought it was.
Wes
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"TexasFireGuy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> : You give Starbucks a lot of credit I would put them in the league with
>Pabst blue ribbon.
>>
>>
>Maybe even Olympia Gold
Milwalkee's Best?
Wes
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[email protected] wrote:
> "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Agree, but that other Detroit icon, Vernors, is still a favorite at our
>>house.
When I moved to New England I encountered Moxie, kinda the local
equivalent here to Vernor's. I like finding unique stuff that you only
find in one particular place, like those little local beers in Wisconsin.
The only difference is I like Vernor's and I can't take Moxie! (My wife
tells me its an acquired taste.)
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>
> "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Agree, but that other Detroit icon, Vernors, is still a favorite at our
> >house.
>
> When I was a little kid, exiled to Indiana, I always looked forward to
> making it to Michigan where I could get vernors and yoohoo??
>
> WEs
>
Got exiled to Bloomington, my sympathy, but right now I'd about kill for
some UP Brand Pasties.
Dave in Fairfax
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WCD wrote:
>
> I found a site where you can order pasties online direct from the UP. I
> guess they finally got around to stringin' up phone lines up there, eh?
Progress is a wunnerful thing, rarely. Don't leave me hangin' what's
the URL?
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George wrote:
>
> Heading down to Escanaba tonight for dinner, but it'll be Italian, not
> Cornish. Best pasties are made by Finns, anyway.
>
Gosh, that sounds like a taste test will be necessary. Why doncha bring
over a bunch of each and I'll provide the beer.
Hey, it could happen...
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Rob Weaver wrote:
> Having thoroughly enjoyed authentic UP pastie (from a coworker from
> Marquette), I can state with no fear of contradiction that the Best Place
> to get a pastie is on the Cornwall coast of England. This culinary
> experience happens most preferrably on a damp, windy day (read: their
> version of high summer) with the lubricant being a freshly pulled pint of
> local ale.
> All the best,
> Rob Weaver
Gosh, I'm not sure if that means you didn't like the UP Brand ones or if
you thought the Cornish were better. My Dad's family are Brits, Mom's
are Russian, so I grew up with a strange mix of foods. I still this the
best desert for a meal of pasties is baklava. Got to agree with Kim
though, Cornwall is a bit of a drive. Some good cellar temp stout would
go down nice with the weather we've been having. Guiness is OK, but it
loses something during the journey.
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> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Agree, but that other Detroit icon, Vernors, is still a favorite at our
>> >house.
>>
>> When I was a little kid, exiled to Indiana, I always looked forward to
>> making it to Michigan where I could get vernors and yoohoo??
>>
>> WEs
>>
>
> Got exiled to Bloomington, my sympathy, but right now I'd about kill for
> some UP Brand Pasties.
> Dave in Fairfax
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Well now Dave, you've finally hit upon a topic with which i have a modicum
of experience (in other words, not woodworking <G>).
Having thoroughly enjoyed authentic UP pastie (from a coworker from
Marquette), I can state with no fear of contradiction that the Best Place
to get a pastie is on the Cornwall coast of England. This culinary
experience happens most preferrably on a damp, windy day (read: their
version of high summer) with the lubricant being a freshly pulled pint of
local ale.
All the best,
Rob Weaver
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I can state with no fear of contradiction that the Best Place
> to get a pastie is on the Cornwall coast of England. This culinary
> experience happens most preferrably on a damp, windy day (read: their
> version of high summer) with the lubricant being a freshly pulled pint of
> local ale.
>
>
A few miles from my abode in SoCal, there is an honest English pasty
shop: you can watch them being made thru the glass! The small size will
feed two people well, the large will feed an army!
And, fortunately, Belgian style saison ale is readily available!
Kim
"George" wrote:
>Agree, but that other Detroit icon, Vernors, is still a favorite at our
>house.
Interesting. Vernors was also bottled and sold in Cleveland by Cotton Club
Bottling.
"WCD" wrote:
> When I moved to New England I encountered Moxie, kinda the local
> equivalent here to Vernor's. I like finding unique stuff that you only
> find in one particular place, like those little local beers in Wisconsin.
>
> The only difference is I like Vernor's and I can't take Moxie! (My wife
> tells me its an acquired taste.)
Recently saw a program on a local PBS channel about a local retailer here in
Los Angeles that stocks a lot of the old time brands of soft drinks, all in
glass bottles.
Must have at least a couple of hundred different brands on the shelf.
Most are from small regional bottlers who produce only a few cases at a
time.
As far as finding local breweries is concerned, I'm with you.
Their demise is just another reason for me to dislike Bud, Millers and
Coors.
Lew
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Had my first taste of Vernor's over July 4th weekend, at Pirateland
Campground in Myrtle Beach, SC, of all places! A good tasting soda, and I was
curious as to where it came from (there was no address on the bottle.)
Not surprising that it is from the midwest; I counted twenty-four different
state license plates that weekend (only place I've ever counted more was in
Quartzite, Arizona once-a really strange trip that was!), the majority of the
out-of-state plates being from the midwest.
During my Navy days, my grandparents often sent me care packages with
Cheerwine (which is now sold in Scandinavia somewhere! Imagine that!) and RC
colas, and cases of the real Moonpies. I would be in heaven for a couple weeks.
Michael Helms
Mountaineer Millworks
Weddington, NC
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(jhmmwoodman) says:
Had my first taste of Vernor's <snip>
Good stuff. But, if I can get it, I prefer most brands of ginger
beer, but very hard to find. Used to get spruce beer (it's a soda) at
the Detroit Zoo, many moons ago.
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jhmmwoodman wrote:
> . . . RC colas and . . . Moonpies
On my first visit to Darlington race track in Carolina one steamy summer
day, I swung into a nearby convenience store, expecting to try out that
classic local duo of "RC Cola and Moonpie". To my amazement, they had
neither!!
Damn chain stores are screwing up everything!!
Vernor Ave. in Detroit, is where I first toured the bottling plant.
Sold out probably twenty years ago, which is when I first saw it in CA.
Pepsi bottles it in our area now.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "George" wrote:
>
> >Agree, but that other Detroit icon, Vernors, is still a favorite at our
> >house.
>
> Interesting. Vernors was also bottled and sold in Cleveland by Cotton Club
> Bottling.
>
> <snip>Think unsweetened Coca-Cola that's been filtered through plug
> tobacco. And peed in.
>
> I read this thru several times. All that sticks in my mind is, how
> would you know what that tastes like, to be able to make the comparison?
I once had to hold it for so long, it backed up that far.
Along the same line, how did the folks who make the Harry Potter
jelly beans decide what 'booger' flavor tastes like?
On 01 Aug 2003, Mark & Juanita spake unto rec.woodworking:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>> > <snip>Think unsweetened Coca-Cola that's been filtered through plug
>> > tobacco. And peed in.
>> >
>> > I read this thru several times. All that sticks in my mind
>> > is, how
>> > would you know what that tastes like, to be able to make the
>> > comparison?
>>
>> I once had to hold it for so long, it backed up that far.
>>
>> Along the same line, how did the folks who make the Harry
>> Potter
>> jelly beans decide what 'booger' flavor tastes like?
>>
>
> Childhood memory? Remember that one person in class who had that
> habit? Now they're designing your food. :-(
As long as they're not *preparing* it.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> > The only difference is I like Vernor's and I can't take Moxie! (My wife
> > tells me its an acquired taste.)
>
> It would be easier to acquire a taste for paint stripper than for
> Moxie. Think unsweetened Coca-Cola that's been filtered through plug
> tobacco. And peed in.
>
dang it! Would you give a guy a little warning!? [now, where's that
windex?]
Heading down to Escanaba tonight for dinner, but it'll be Italian, not
Cornish. Best pasties are made by Finns, anyway.
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >
>
> Got exiled to Bloomington, my sympathy, but right now I'd about kill for
> some UP Brand Pasties.
> Dave in Fairfax
Dave Balderstone <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <9h%[email protected]>,
>Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As along as we are talking about beers, does anybody remember:
>
>Or, in Kanuckistan:
>
>"Hey, Mabel! Black Label!"
>
>djb
Carling Black Label? Too young to try it in it's heyday. Of course I
thought my old man was drinking decent beer while sqandering what
could have put me though College. Wiederman, iirc. I learned it was
the cheap stuff later in life.
Wes
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In article <[email protected]>, "Bob Gramza" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"tnfkajs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>:
>:
>: I don't care how many of the stores they build - their beans are awful and
>: there are too many microroasters out there doing a much better job. IMHO -
>: Starbucks is the "Michelob"; better than Bud but can't hold a candle to a
>: good microbrew.
>:
>You give Starbucks a lot of credit I would put them in the league with Pabst
> blue ribbon.
*You* give them too much credit yourself -- I'd put them in the same league
with Rhinelander, which has to be the worst beer in North America.
Somebody needs to tell the folks at Starbuck's that coffee isn't supposed to
be bitter.
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