On Apr 22, 10:49=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/21/2010 11:23 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Upper 50s to low 60s at night. =A0Perfect for our annual Fiesta and the
> > start of baseball season. =A0Hard to think that in just 60 days it will
> > be around 100 or more, and nights in the upper 80s with 1 million
> > percent humidity.
>
> > I am enjoying every minute of this I can.
>
> No kidding ... remembering last summer when it was so hot inside a house
> under construction in central Texas that the fans wouldn't even work.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
It was so cold here one winter that I crawled into the freezer to warm
up.
And windy! So windy it blew the light of my high-beams right off the
car.
On Apr 21, 9:59=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The cold air continues to blanket the West coast.
>
> How Cold is it you ask?
>
> It's so cold they are building igloos in the high desert.
Sorry to hear that. We are currently enjoying our "chamber of
commerce" weather here, blue skies and in the 80s during the day.
Upper 50s to low 60s at night. Perfect for our annual Fiesta and the
start of baseball season. Hard to think that in just 60 days it will
be around 100 or more, and nights in the upper 80s with 1 million
percent humidity.
I am enjoying every minute of this I can.
Robert
notbob <[email protected]> writes:
>On 2010-04-22, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just getting my home weather station up - sans wind speed/direction &
>> rainfall sensors (gotta built a Stevenson shield.......
>
>Ahh-hah!!! Thank you for that info. I've been wondering what the
>term for the classic shelter for an outdoor weather station is, my
>no-term googling being woefully unfruitful. I have a cheapo wireless
>temp gauge that is all over the map, no doubt due to solar radiation
>and am in the market for a full network grade weather station.
Funny thing about the stevenson screens - in the first part of the 20th
century, they had whitewashed exteriors. Later, they started using
Latex paint, and found that subsequent temperatures were biased higher
by a detectable amount (couple of tenths, IIRC). That's just one of the
corrections that GISS tries (and often fails) to accomodate in their
'global temperature anomoly' constructed from surface station
records.
I think if you check www.surfacestations.org, you'll find references to
the siting guides for locating weather stations, including standards for
the stevenson screen (which is obsolete now).
scott
(I use a la cross home weather station, myself, with the linux opensource
lacrosse software (storing readings in a mysql database)).
On Apr 21, 11:40=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Apr 21, 10:31=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > with 1 million
> > > percent humidity.
>
> > Robeeeeeert????!!?
>
> Whoops! =A0Sorry for the typo!
>
> It should read 10 million percent relative humidity.
>
> (It could be more..... =A0;^) =A0 =A0)
>
> Robert
You do know the definition of "relative humidity" don't you?
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When you ask your Brother-in-law for a loan and he says "pi** on you".
Norm
On Apr 21, 10:31=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > with 1 million
> > percent humidity.
>
> Robeeeeeert????!!?
Whoops! Sorry for the typo!
It should read 10 million percent relative humidity.
(It could be more..... ;^) )
Robert
On 2010-04-22, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just getting my home weather station up - sans wind speed/direction &
> rainfall sensors (gotta built a Stevenson shield.......
Ahh-hah!!! Thank you for that info. I've been wondering what the
term for the classic shelter for an outdoor weather station is, my
no-term googling being woefully unfruitful. I have a cheapo wireless
temp gauge that is all over the map, no doubt due to solar radiation
and am in the market for a full network grade weather station.
> http://winterburn.net/weather/
>
> BTW, these cheap and inaccurate weather stations are a Canuckistani
> product of Thermor (Bios Weather). The wview (open source) software
> allows one to use (almost) any kind of hardware and calibrate for large
> offsets, but you have to be willing to do some hacking.
I also use linux and have looked at various options, from high end
Davis stuff to one-wire homebrew. I would love to hear any opinions
you might have on the subject. If you're interested in chatting, my
email is notbob at Q (the letter) dot com.
For you other weather nuts, I think a Stevenson sheild would be a cool
woodworking project. Anyone have any plans? Thank you.
nb
On 2010-04-22, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> The cold air continues to blanket the West coast.
>
> How Cold is it you ask?
>
> It's so cold they are building igloos in the high desert.
>
><Groan>
You wanna know "groan"?
Howzabout when yer sewers freeze up for 3 mos and your alzy mom
doesn't wanna "go out" fer a shower/bath and gets hamburger raw
ass-cheeks and ends up in the hospital for a week and six inches of
sewage backs up in yer bath tub and people have to 'go out" to bring
in water for basic everything and one has to block off the bathroom as
a toxic waste dump and.....
Sorry, Lew. You haven't a clue. ;)
nb --still not regretting leaving CA
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> The cold air continues to blanket the West coast.
>
> How Cold is it you ask?
>
> It's so cold they are building igloos in the high desert.
>
> <Groan>
> http://winterburn.net/weather/
> Lew
>
Just getting my home weather station up - sans wind speed/direction &
rainfall sensors (gotta built a Stevenson shield and mount) as well as
calibrating the working sensors, but here in the Sonoran desert my
readings show a definite global cooling (during the last few hours):
http://winterburn.net/weather/
BTW, these cheap and inaccurate weather stations are a Canuckistani
product of Thermor (Bios Weather). The wview (open source) software
allows one to use (almost) any kind of hardware and calibrate for large
offsets, but you have to be willing to do some hacking.
On 4/21/2010 11:23 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Upper 50s to low 60s at night. Perfect for our annual Fiesta and the
> start of baseball season. Hard to think that in just 60 days it will
> be around 100 or more, and nights in the upper 80s with 1 million
> percent humidity.
>
> I am enjoying every minute of this I can.
No kidding ... remembering last summer when it was so hot inside a house
under construction in central Texas that the fans wouldn't even work.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
notbob wrote:
> On 2010-04-22, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just getting my home weather station up - sans wind speed/direction &
>> rainfall sensors (gotta built a Stevenson shield.......
>
> Ahh-hah!!! Thank you for that info. I've been wondering what the
> term for the classic shelter for an outdoor weather station is, my
> no-term googling being woefully unfruitful. I have a cheapo wireless
> temp gauge that is all over the map, no doubt due to solar radiation
> and am in the market for a full network grade weather station.
>
>> http://winterburn.net/weather/
>>
>> BTW, these cheap and inaccurate weather stations are a Canuckistani
>> product of Thermor (Bios Weather). The wview (open source) software
>> allows one to use (almost) any kind of hardware and calibrate for large
>> offsets, but you have to be willing to do some hacking.
>
> I also use linux and have looked at various options, from high end
> Davis stuff to one-wire homebrew. I would love to hear any opinions
> you might have on the subject. If you're interested in chatting, my
> email is notbob at Q (the letter) dot com.
>
> For you other weather nuts, I think a Stevenson sheild would be a cool
> woodworking project. Anyone have any plans? Thank you.
>
> nb
Not much woodworking in this one, but I's what I plan to do - with a few
modifications:
http://www.loganvillageweather.com/station/stevenson.html
I plan on a plywood disc under the top and bottom saucer. Also, rather
than nuts and washers as spacers, I'll lop off 2" spacers made of 1/2"
PVC pipe and use threaded inserts in the top plywood disc so the
threaded rod won't go through. Nuts and washers under the next to
bottom disc will hold all but the bottom together. The bottom will be
mounted on a post/pipe and the top will be held on with wing nuts and
washers. The rain gauge and anemometer will be mounted on top with the
temp/transmitter module mounted inside. A BW835 solar panel/battery
will be mounted under the screen on the post or pipe - whatever ends up
as the winner.
On Apr 22, 12:23=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> with 1 million
> percent humidity.
>
Robeeeeeert????!!?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 4/21/2010 11:31 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On Apr 22, 12:23 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> with 1 million
>>> percent humidity.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Robeeeeeert????!!?
>>
>
>Perfectly reasonable Global Warming Math.
Ever been to San Anton? Robert is right, of course my time was between
July to late September.
Mark
On 4/22/2010 9:01 AM, Markem wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/21/2010 11:31 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Apr 22, 12:23 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> with 1 million
>>>> percent humidity.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robeeeeeert????!!?
>>>
>>
>> Perfectly reasonable Global Warming Math.
>
> Ever been to San Anton? Robert is right, of course my time was between
> July to late September.
>
> Mark
I don't question the great discomfort. I'm merely confirming that
the "1 million percent" figure is as credible as most of the GW
math...
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On 4/21/2010 11:31 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Apr 22, 12:23 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>> with 1 million
>> percent humidity.
>>
>
>
> Robeeeeeert????!!?
>
Perfectly reasonable Global Warming Math.
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On 04/22/2010 09:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> It was so cold here one winter that I crawled into the freezer to warm
> up.
> And windy! So windy it blew the light of my high-beams right off the
> car.
And no doubt you couldn't get drunk cause the whisky was frozen in the
bottle. :)
Back in my high school days I delivered newspapers. There was one
morning where it was -47C, with a windchill equivalent of -63C. That
was chilly.
If you haven't already I suggest you read "The Cremation of Sam McGee"
by Robert Service.
Chris
"Markem" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 4/21/2010 11:31 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Apr 22, 12:23 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> with 1 million
>>>> percent humidity.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robeeeeeert????!!?
>>>
>>
>>Perfectly reasonable Global Warming Math.
>
> Ever been to San Anton? Robert is right, of course my time was between
> July to late September.
>
> Mark
That's when I was there, but through November. Lackland AFB. I had visions
of hot and dry. Sigh ...
On 2010-04-22, Scott Lurndal <[email protected]> wrote:
> (I use a la cross home weather station, myself, with the linux opensource
> lacrosse software (storing readings in a mysql database)).
I'd be interested in more details, you claiming to correct for
inaccurate readings by software. Walmart sells a full LaCross weather
station fer < $100, so such info may be of great value.
If Stevenson shield obsolete, what's replaced it?
I was thinking of cutting a cheapo foam bait bucket in half (vert) and using
it as a solar sheild (orienting for sun movement), mounting the temp
sensor away from both shield and 4X4 post with 10 deck screws.
nb