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"James"

30/10/2018 10:55 PM

Finish Question

Hi Group, I have a finishing question, I need ti re-finish a
entertainment center top. that I had built about 40 years ago. (cut it
down to fit a new tv) I believe it was finished with lacquer
originally. I'd like to use lacquer again and spray it. HVLP gun. I've
looked at Minwax which is suppose to be oil based but it says apply
with a brush. Can it be thinned for spraying? Any suggestions on an
other brand. Thanks, Jim


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"James"

in reply to "James" on 30/10/2018 10:55 PM

03/11/2018 3:10 AM

J. Clarke wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 22:55:27 +0000 (UTC), "James"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Group, I have a finishing question, I need ti re-finish a
> > entertainment center top. that I had built about 40 years ago. (cut
> > it down to fit a new tv) I believe it was finished with lacquer
> > originally. I'd like to use lacquer again and spray it. HVLP gun.
> > I've looked at Minwax which is suppose to be oil based but it says
> > apply with a brush. Can it be thinned for spraying? Any suggestions
> > on an other brand. Thanks, Jim
>
> ??? You say you want to use lacquer but then you ask about
> "oil-based". Lacquer is not oil-based. It is dissolved in a solvent
> but the chemistry is different from an oil-based finish.
>
> Generally speaking if you're using a real lacquer you can thin to any
> consistency you want by just adding more solvent.
>
> Just be aware--everything that comes out of the spray gun will burn
> vigorously and be hard to put out if it lights, and it's also highly
> toxic--don't spray it with HVLP indoors unless you're sure you know
> what you're doing.

Thanks or all the input. I ended up using Deft. Two parts lacquer one
part lacquer thinner. Set it up and sprayed it out side then moved it
inside. Dried real fast. Going to let it set over the weekend, going to
be out of town, lightly sand it when I get back and hit it again.

B.T.W.This is how Lowes lists it on their web site and that's what's on
the shelf.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Minwax-32-fl-oz-Semi-Gloss-Oil-Based-Lacquer/99
9913807

JC

J. Clarke

in reply to "James" on 30/10/2018 10:55 PM

02/11/2018 11:38 PM

On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 03:10:53 +0000 (UTC), "James"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 22:55:27 +0000 (UTC), "James"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Group, I have a finishing question, I need ti re-finish a
>> > entertainment center top. that I had built about 40 years ago. (cut
>> > it down to fit a new tv) I believe it was finished with lacquer
>> > originally. I'd like to use lacquer again and spray it. HVLP gun.
>> > I've looked at Minwax which is suppose to be oil based but it says
>> > apply with a brush. Can it be thinned for spraying? Any suggestions
>> > on an other brand. Thanks, Jim
>>
>> ??? You say you want to use lacquer but then you ask about
>> "oil-based". Lacquer is not oil-based. It is dissolved in a solvent
>> but the chemistry is different from an oil-based finish.
>>
>> Generally speaking if you're using a real lacquer you can thin to any
>> consistency you want by just adding more solvent.
>>
>> Just be aware--everything that comes out of the spray gun will burn
>> vigorously and be hard to put out if it lights, and it's also highly
>> toxic--don't spray it with HVLP indoors unless you're sure you know
>> what you're doing.
>
>Thanks or all the input. I ended up using Deft. Two parts lacquer one
>part lacquer thinner. Set it up and sprayed it out side then moved it
>inside. Dried real fast. Going to let it set over the weekend, going to
>be out of town, lightly sand it when I get back and hit it again.
>
>B.T.W.This is how Lowes lists it on their web site and that's what's on
>the shelf.
>https://www.lowes.com/pd/Minwax-32-fl-oz-Semi-Gloss-Oil-Based-Lacquer/99
>9913807

That's Lowes being ignorant--if it's not waterborne then it's "oil
based". According to the Minwax site, the major ingredient other than
lots and lots and lots of solvents is "cellulose nitrate", which make
it more or less a classic lacquer. Interesting though that there
seems to be a little bit of epoxy in it.

JC

J. Clarke

in reply to "James" on 30/10/2018 10:55 PM

30/10/2018 11:37 PM

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 22:55:27 +0000 (UTC), "James"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Group, I have a finishing question, I need ti re-finish a
>entertainment center top. that I had built about 40 years ago. (cut it
>down to fit a new tv) I believe it was finished with lacquer
>originally. I'd like to use lacquer again and spray it. HVLP gun. I've
>looked at Minwax which is suppose to be oil based but it says apply
>with a brush. Can it be thinned for spraying? Any suggestions on an
>other brand. Thanks, Jim

??? You say you want to use lacquer but then you ask about
"oil-based". Lacquer is not oil-based. It is dissolved in a solvent
but the chemistry is different from an oil-based finish.

Generally speaking if you're using a real lacquer you can thin to any
consistency you want by just adding more solvent.

Just be aware--everything that comes out of the spray gun will burn
vigorously and be hard to put out if it lights, and it's also highly
toxic--don't spray it with HVLP indoors unless you're _sure_ you know
what you're doing.

h

in reply to "James" on 30/10/2018 10:55 PM

30/10/2018 7:38 PM

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 22:55:27 +0000 (UTC), "James"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Group, I have a finishing question, I need ti re-finish a
>entertainment center top. that I had built about 40 years ago. (cut it
>down to fit a new tv) I believe it was finished with lacquer
>originally. I'd like to use lacquer again and spray it. HVLP gun. I've
>looked at Minwax which is suppose to be oil based but it says apply
>with a brush. Can it be thinned for spraying? Any suggestions on an
>other brand. Thanks, Jim


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