table saw wax?

In article <[email protected]>, Mitch
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
> and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
> (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?

I use Minwax paste wax. Works great. Don't use anything with silicone
in it. It'll wreak havok on finishing your wood.

In article <[email protected]>, Doug
Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains no
> silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.

Silicone is not an "anti slip agent"...

In article <[email protected]>, Doug
Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> and.... I guess I need to pay more attention, and read what's really there
> instead of what I thought was there. Sorry. Never mind.

Yeah, Doug. Get with the program.

*NOBODY* on the Wreck makes that kind of mistake.

Better send JOAT a piece of wood as penance to get your posting
privileges back.

;-)

Mitch asks:

>
>I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
>surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
>and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
>(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
>Thanks for your help....mitch
>

Grocery store. Paste floor wax, usually on the bottom shelf with all the liquid
easy-apply junk surrounding it. Or brew your own, just for kicks.

Charlie Self
"Inanimate objects are classified scientifically into three major categories -
those that don't work, those that break down and those that get lost." Russell
Baker

i use pledge or johnson paste wax

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 04:10:46 -0400, "Lee Gordon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

><<Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
>does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
>silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.
>
>Then, you need to find a place that actually sells one of those brands.>>
>
>You can generally find one or more of those brands in a paint store.

Even the BORGs here in CT carry those brands, in the paint dept.

I have Trewax from a local paint store and it works well.

Barry

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
> does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
> silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.
>
How come nobody ever mentions Trewax? I use it and have compared it to
Johnsons. The Trewax seems to last longer. They claim (or at least
they used to) that they have more carnuba wax than the others, thus
making Trewax harder.

I think I bought mine at an Ace hardware last time, but it's been a
while since I bought two cans then and have only a half can left.

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In article <[email protected]>, "Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
>surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
>and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
>(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
First, you need to find a clerk with a clue... sometimes that's hard at Lowe's
or HD.

Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.

Then, you need to find a place that actually sells one of those brands.

Forget Wal-Mart. You'd think they'd have it, but they don't. Don't even bother
trying.

Johnson's Paste Wax is sold at *some* Lowe's stores, but not all. It'll be in
the paint department, near the stains and varnishes, if they have it. Do a
Google Groups search on this newsgroup -- someone (Sylvan?) posted the Lowe's
stock number for it a few months back, so if your local Lowe's doesn't stock
it, they should be able to order it for you.

Every Ace Hardware store that I've ever been in sells Johnson's, on the aisle
with the cleaning supplies -- when you find Mop'n'Glo, you're near the JPW.

Independent grocery stores often have Johnson's, with the cleaning supplies.

Minwax Paste Finishing Wax will be in the paint department at Lowe's or Home
Depot, and probably at Ace too. It's fairly common.

Butchers? Can't help you there. Never seen it. Other people here swear by it,
and I'm sure they can tell you where to find it. Or you can Google this ng.

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Mother's brand in the red can is pure carnuba wax for vehicles...

"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Newshound"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
> >there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff
at
> >a higher price.
>
> NO NO NO NO NO!
>
> Automotive paste waxes frequently contain silicone, which *will* rub off
on
> the wood and interfere with various types of wood finishes. To avoid
finishing
> problems, you *must* use a silicone-free wax.
>
> --
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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 16:20:50 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:

>>Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
>>appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
>>resistant free movement would be desired.
>>
>

>When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains no
>silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.


These two statements are not mutually exclusive.



Regards,
Tom.

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

I bought a can of Johnson's Paste wax at the Food Lion (local grocery store in
Raleigh) a few years ago. I got a bottle of Boeshield 9 at a wood working show
this year, and have used it on my Bandsaw.
There was an article in one of the wood magazines showing a comparison.
Good Luck
Frank

Tyke wrote:

> I have two products which prevent cast iron from rusting.
>
> a) Boeshield 9. This is a spray. Available at real woodoworking/tool
> stores. I bought some recently from www.woodpeck.com
> b) Slippit. This is like a white silicon wax-substitute. This is wiped on
> and left to dry. I would do a search for this. I bought this can at a
> woodworking show.
>
> Both work well.
>
> Dave Paine.
>
> "Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
> > surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
> depot
> > and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard
> wax
> > (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
> >
> > Thanks for your help....mitch
> >
> >

I have two products which prevent cast iron from rusting.

a) Boeshield 9. This is a spray. Available at real woodoworking/tool
stores. I bought some recently from www.woodpeck.com
b) Slippit. This is like a white silicon wax-substitute. This is wiped on
and left to dry. I would do a search for this. I bought this can at a
woodworking show.

Both work well.

Dave Paine.


"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
>
> I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
> and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard
wax
> (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
> Thanks for your help....mitch
>
>

I contacted Meguiar's about their waxes back around the first of the
year, and they would neither confirm NOR deny the presense of
silicone, but DID rather explicitly say that THEIR wax products were
NOT appropriate and NOT recommended for used on cast iron woodwooding
products

John

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 10:53:43 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 16:23:49 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, "Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
>>>there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
>>>a higher price.
>>
>>NO NO NO NO NO!
>>
>>Automotive paste waxes frequently contain silicone, which *will* rub off on
>>the wood and interfere with various types of wood finishes. To avoid finishing
>>problems, you *must* use a silicone-free wax.
>
>
>
>meguiar's deep crystal paste wax does *not* contain silicone. it's
>also formulated a bit harder than furniture wax, which is a good thing
>for the table saw top.

In article <[email protected]>,
Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] says...
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Just an FYI
>>> >
>>> >During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
>>> >Min Wax 800 number a call.
>>> >
>>> >Straight from the horse's mouth
>>> >
>>> >Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
>>> >appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
>>> >resistant free movement would be desired.
>>> >
>>>
>>> When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains no
>>> silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.
>>>
>>
>>And?
>>
>
>and.... I guess I need to pay more attention, and read what's really there
>instead of what I thought was there. Sorry. Never mind.

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In article <[email protected]>, mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
>
>Just an FYI
>
>During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
>Min Wax 800 number a call.
>
>Straight from the horse's mouth
>
>Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
>appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
>resistant free movement would be desired.
>

When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains no
silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.

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In article <[email protected]>, mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
> mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
>> >
>> >Just an FYI
>> >
>> >During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
>> >Min Wax 800 number a call.
>> >
>> >Straight from the horse's mouth
>> >
>> >Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
>> >appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
>> >resistant free movement would be desired.
>> >
>>
>> When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains no
>> silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.
>>
>
>And?
>

and.... I guess I need to pay more attention, and read what's really there
instead of what I thought was there. Sorry. Never mind.

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
> >surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
> >and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
> >(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
> >
> First, you need to find a clerk with a clue... sometimes that's hard at Lowe's
> or HD.
>
> Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
> does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
> silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.
>
> Then, you need to find a place that actually sells one of those brands.
>
> Forget Wal-Mart. You'd think they'd have it, but they don't. Don't even bother
> trying.
>
> Johnson's Paste Wax is sold at *some* Lowe's stores, but not all. It'll be in
> the paint department, near the stains and varnishes, if they have it. Do a
> Google Groups search on this newsgroup -- someone (Sylvan?) posted the Lowe's
> stock number for it a few months back, so if your local Lowe's doesn't stock
> it, they should be able to order it for you.
>
> Every Ace Hardware store that I've ever been in sells Johnson's, on the aisle
> with the cleaning supplies -- when you find Mop'n'Glo, you're near the JPW.
>
> Independent grocery stores often have Johnson's, with the cleaning supplies.
>
> Minwax Paste Finishing Wax will be in the paint department at Lowe's or Home
> Depot, and probably at Ace too. It's fairly common.
>
> Butchers? Can't help you there. Never seen it. Other people here swear by it,
> and I'm sure they can tell you where to find it. Or you can Google this ng.
>
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Just an FYI

During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
Min Wax 800 number a call.

Straight from the horse's mouth

Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
resistant free movement would be desired.


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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>, mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
> >
> >Just an FYI
> >
> >During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
> >Min Wax 800 number a call.
> >
> >Straight from the horse's mouth
> >
> >Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
> >appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
> >resistant free movement would be desired.
> >
>
> When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains no
> silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>


And?


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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>, mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> In article <[email protected]>,
> > mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Just an FYI
> >> >
> >> >During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
> >> >Min Wax 800 number a call.
> >> >
> >> >Straight from the horse's mouth
> >> >
> >> >Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
> >> >appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
> >> >resistant free movement would be desired.
> >> >
> >>
> >> When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains no
> >> silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.
> >>
> >
> >And?
> >
>
> and.... I guess I need to pay more attention, and read what's really there
> instead of what I thought was there. Sorry. Never mind.
>
> --
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<<Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.

Then, you need to find a place that actually sells one of those brands.>>

You can generally find one or more of those brands in a paint store.

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"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Hello,
>
> I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean
> table surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to
> home depot and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it
> like surfboard wax (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
> Thanks for your help....mitch
>

Now go to a real hardware store. One that says 'Ace', or 'True Value', or
'Do it Best' on the front of the building. Or look for someone behind the
counter who experienced the Eisenhower administration personally.

What you're looking for comes in a can, with a pry-off lid. Johnson's
Paste Wax. Butcher's. Minwax. Briwax. Liberon. Something your
grandmother would have used to polish a floor. Usually a mixture of
carnuba & beeswax, with a solvent of some kind used to make it smearable.

Rub on a very thin coat, with a clean rag, as though you were polishing a
pair of good leather shoes. Let it dry to a slight haze, then, with
another clean rag, buff it off, rubbing hard to generate a little heat.
What you're trying to end up with is a thin, slippery coat on the unpainted
portions of the table. The idea is to reduce friction, and keep moisture
from gathering, which invites rust.

Do this once a week or so, whether you think it needs it or not. The
thickness of the wax will not build beyond what is required. Takes maybe 5
minutes. While it dries, check your blade for crud build up, your splitter
for function, and make certain offcuts, chips and sawdust aren't where they
shouldn't be.

Now, having thumped on the BORG, I give you permission to go back, if you
must. They sometimes have what you need, but you will have to look. It's
not a high volume item for anyone, anymore. Even busy woodworkers are
unlikely to purchase very many cans in a hobbyist career.

Welcome to the fraternity of tablesaw owners. Enjoy your purchase safely.

Patriarch

ps: Get a copy of Kelly Mehler's 'The Tablesaw Book'. Trust his wise
guidance.

It's a good thing I don't have a dirty mind, because this post is just
filled with Freudian imagery. Don't even get me started on Ron's domain
address.

G

RonB wrote:

> You can order SLIPIT from Grizzly at around $10 a can (which will last a
> long, long time). It is also a good surface lubricant. Slipit is actually
> a silicon free product so it does not put a silicon residue on your wood.
> You just brush it on, let it set for a few moments and wipe the surface dry
> (kinda gooey but it cleans off quite well).
>
> It also comes in spray but the grizzly rep said the past has better staying
> power.
>
> RonB

Newshound

DO NOT use automotive wax, they contain silcones that can rub off on
the wood and cause finishing problems

Floor waxes like Johnsons/BriWax/etc are what should be used on on
woodworking tools/tables

John

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 00:47:15 GMT, "Newshound" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I bought a new dewalt table saw
>
>nice saw....enjoy!
>
>> and the instructions say to clean table
>> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
>depot
>> and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about.
>
>Not surprised about that! Did they not know what mineral spirits is? :-)
>You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
>there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
>a higher price.
>
>> Is it like surfboard wax?
>
>Never waxed a surfbard. ???????
>> (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
>Any good auto parts store should have an endless selection.
>
>>
>> Thanks for your help....mitch
>
>YW
>
>>
>>
>

Mitch wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
> depot and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like
> surfboard wax (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?

It comes in a can, similar to car wax. There are several brands. Johnson's
Paste Wax is the "classic". Butcher's Wax is also well established and is
normally in stock at Home Depot--wander around the paint aisle and you
should find it--if you go to <http://www.butcherwax.com/catalog.html>
you'll find pictures of the can so you'll know what to look for--ask the
guy for "bowling alley wax" and he's more likely to know what you're
talking about than if you ask for "paste wax". Briwax is another good
brand. Any kind of car wax that doesn't contain silicone should also do.



> Thanks for your help....mitch

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Doug Miller wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> mikeg@heirloom=woods.net wrote:
>>
>>Just an FYI
>>
>>During the great Johnson's paste wax scare I got curious and gave the
>>Min Wax 800 number a call.
>>
>>Straight from the horse's mouth
>>
>>Min Wax paste wax does contain anti slip agents and would NOT be
>>appropriate for use on a table saw top or other such item where
>>resistant free movement would be desired.
>>
>
> When I called MinWax, I was told that their Paste Finishing Wax contains
> no silicone -- and the MSDS for it does *not* mention silicone.

He didn't say that it contained silicone, he said that it contained "anti
slip agents". In other words if you're going for a slippery surface it
won't give you one.

>
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Doug Miller wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, "Newshound"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
>>there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff
>>at a higher price.
>
> NO NO NO NO NO!
>
> Automotive paste waxes frequently contain silicone, which *will* rub off
> on the wood and interfere with various types of wood finishes. To avoid
> finishing problems, you *must* use a silicone-free wax.

Frequently but not always.

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On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 16:23:49 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, "Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
>>there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
>>a higher price.
>
>NO NO NO NO NO!
>
>Automotive paste waxes frequently contain silicone, which *will* rub off on
>the wood and interfere with various types of wood finishes. To avoid finishing
>problems, you *must* use a silicone-free wax.



meguiar's deep crystal paste wax does *not* contain silicone. it's
also formulated a bit harder than furniture wax, which is a good thing
for the table saw top.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:30:36 -0700, Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> Next, you need to find a paste wax that does *not* contain silicone (which
>> does baaad things to wood finishes). Three brands that are known to be
>> silicone-free are Johnson's, Minwax, and Butchers.
>>
>How come nobody ever mentions Trewax?

I did! <G>

Barry

You can order SLIPIT from Grizzly at around $10 a can (which will last a
long, long time). It is also a good surface lubricant. Slipit is actually
a silicon free product so it does not put a silicon residue on your wood.
You just brush it on, let it set for a few moments and wipe the surface dry
(kinda gooey but it cleans off quite well).

It also comes in spray but the grizzly rep said the past has better staying
power.

RonB

"Tyke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have two products which prevent cast iron from rusting.
>
> a) Boeshield 9. This is a spray. Available at real woodoworking/tool
> stores. I bought some recently from www.woodpeck.com
> b) Slippit. This is like a white silicon wax-substitute. This is wiped
on
> and left to dry. I would do a search for this. I bought this can at a
> woodworking show.
>
> Both work well.
>
> Dave Paine.
>
>
> "Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
> > surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
> depot
> > and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard
> wax
> > (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
> >
> > Thanks for your help....mitch
> >
> >
>
>

On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 16:04:58 -0400, "Mark Hopkins"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mother's brand in the red can is pure carnuba wax for vehicles...
>
>"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>, "Newshound"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
>> >there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff
>at
>> >a higher price.
>>
>> NO NO NO NO NO!
>>
>> Automotive paste waxes frequently contain silicone, which *will* rub off
>on
>> the wood and interfere with various types of wood finishes. To avoid
>finishing
>> problems, you *must* use a silicone-free wax.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>>
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>

Johnson's Paste Wax (for floors), or something similiar

Car Wax is not appropriate

Or, you can use something like TopCoat or BoeShield T9

John

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:25:32 -0600, "Mitch" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
>surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
>and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
>(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
>Thanks for your help....mitch
>

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 20:59:17 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:


>and.... I guess I need to pay more attention, and read what's really there
>instead of what I thought was there. Sorry. Never mind.

Hell Doug, if that's the worst thing you do this week, you'll be way
ahead of me.


Regards,
Tom.

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
> and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard
wax
> (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
> Thanks for your help....mitch

I see you got plenty of answers or where to find was. I have another
suggestion.

Lee Valley (and others) sells Top Cote. It works better for me. Sprays on
and you just wipe it after it dries. Boeshield is another good product.

With wax I got rust a couple of times. With Top Cote, nothing. YM will V
depending on temperature, humidity, heated or unheated shop, etc.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
>
> I bought a new dewalt table saw

nice saw....enjoy!

> and the instructions say to clean table
> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
depot
> and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about.

Not surprised about that! Did they not know what mineral spirits is? :-)
You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
a higher price.

> Is it like surfboard wax?

Never waxed a surfbard. ???????
> (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?

Any good auto parts store should have an endless selection.

>
> Thanks for your help....mitch

YW

>
>

This is true. Silicone became popular in car waxes when they came out with
the liquid and soft waxes. It enabled them to be soft and easy yet still
work. BTW, Johnson's works great on cars.

"Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yep, I agree, don't use an automotive wax with silicone. May have to look
> around (avoid the "easy" stuff), but there are plenty of automotive waxes
> that do not have silicone in them.
>
> "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Newshound
> >
> > DO NOT use automotive wax, they contain silcones that can rub off on
> > the wood and cause finishing problems
> >
> > Floor waxes like Johnsons/BriWax/etc are what should be used on on
> > woodworking tools/tables
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 00:47:15 GMT, "Newshound" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I bought a new dewalt table saw
> > >
> > >nice saw....enjoy!
> > >
> > >> and the instructions say to clean table
> > >> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
> > >depot
> > >> and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about.
> > >
> > >Not surprised about that! Did they not know what mineral spirits is?
:-)
> > >You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
> > >there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive
stuff
> at
> > >a higher price.
> > >
> > >> Is it like surfboard wax?
> > >
> > >Never waxed a surfbard. ???????
> > >> (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
> > >
> > >Any good auto parts store should have an endless selection.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your help....mitch
> > >
> > >YW
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 17:07:28 -0500, John <[email protected]> wrote:

>I contacted Meguiar's about their waxes back around the first of the
>year, and they would neither confirm NOR deny the presense of
>silicone, but DID rather explicitly say that THEIR wax products were
>NOT appropriate and NOT recommended for used on cast iron woodwooding
>products
>
>John



I've used it for years. it's worked well for me....








>
>On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 10:53:43 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 16:23:49 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, "Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
>>>>there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
>>>>a higher price.
>>>
>>>NO NO NO NO NO!
>>>
>>>Automotive paste waxes frequently contain silicone, which *will* rub off on
>>>the wood and interfere with various types of wood finishes. To avoid finishing
>>>problems, you *must* use a silicone-free wax.
>>
>>
>>
>>meguiar's deep crystal paste wax does *not* contain silicone. it's
>>also formulated a bit harder than furniture wax, which is a good thing
>>for the table saw top.
>

In article <[email protected]>, "Newshound" <[email protected]> wrote:

>You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
>there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff at
>a higher price.

NO NO NO NO NO!

Automotive paste waxes frequently contain silicone, which *will* rub off on
the wood and interfere with various types of wood finishes. To avoid finishing
problems, you *must* use a silicone-free wax.

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"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:eVfRc.32456$wC3.30968@okepread07...
> You can order SLIPIT from Grizzly at around $10 a can (which will last a
> long, long time). It is also a good surface lubricant. Slipit is
actually
> a silicon free product so it does not put a silicon residue on your wood.

Note that SLIP IT company makes to lines of lubricants - one WITH silicone
and one WITHOUT silicone - something to be aware of if its purchased from a
general supplier.

www.slipit.com

Bob

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:25:32 -0600, "Mitch" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I bought a new dewalt table saw and the instructions say to clean table
>surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home depot
>and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about. Is it like surfboard wax
>(bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
>
>Thanks for your help....mitch
>


Johnson's Paste Wax. I use this on all my cast iron tables. And,
it's great for furniture, window sills, etc. I found some at Lowes,
WalMart, most hardware stores. Sometimes it is in the cleaning
supplies. In a yellow can.

Yep, I agree, don't use an automotive wax with silicone. May have to look
around (avoid the "easy" stuff), but there are plenty of automotive waxes
that do not have silicone in them.

"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Newshound
>
> DO NOT use automotive wax, they contain silcones that can rub off on
> the wood and cause finishing problems
>
> Floor waxes like Johnsons/BriWax/etc are what should be used on on
> woodworking tools/tables
>
> John
>
> On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 00:47:15 GMT, "Newshound" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mitch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I bought a new dewalt table saw
> >
> >nice saw....enjoy!
> >
> >> and the instructions say to clean table
> >> surface with mineral spirits and then apply paste wax. I went to home
> >depot
> >> and lowes but no one knew what i was talking about.
> >
> >Not surprised about that! Did they not know what mineral spirits is? :-)
> >You can use any good automotive paste wax -works well for me. I'm sure
> >there is a dedicated "table saw wax", but probably just automotive stuff
at
> >a higher price.
> >
> >> Is it like surfboard wax?
> >
> >Never waxed a surfbard. ???????
> >> (bar) or is it in a tube? Where can I get some?
> >
> >Any good auto parts store should have an endless selection.
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help....mitch
> >
> >YW
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Barry ...

<<Even the BORGs here in CT carry those brands, in the paint dept.>>

As a matter of fact I was at the Borg in Newington this afternoon and saw
both Minwax and Butchers in the paint department. I have a spray can of
stuff I bought at Coastal (CRC Table Guard) which I have sprayed on my
table saw and my (formerly your) jointer.

Lee


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