rB

27/08/2003 5:02 AM

Refinishing kitchen cabinets

We have cherrywood kitchen cabinets with lots of detail in the
woodwork. These are custom cabinets built by a local cabinet maker.
The applied finish is lacquer. Over the years the finish has
deteriorated due to steam and moisture. We'd like to refinish them
with polyurethane. However, I understand that polyurethane will not
bond properly to lacquer.

1. Is it possible to restore the appearance of the wood where its
stained with moisture marks?

2. Can the lacquer be stripped?

2. As a last resort, can the cabinets be painted?


This topic has 3 replies

rB

in reply to [email protected] (Bob) on 27/08/2003 5:02 AM

27/08/2003 3:22 PM

Thanks for the reply. We will try it on one door first. We talked to
people at two paint stores who told us to forget it; there wasn't much
that could be done.

Its a real shame that our cabinet maker chose to use lacquer. When we
contracted with him, it didn't occur to me that he would do that. At
the same time, my brother also had custom cabinets made, his were
polyurethaned and are holding up very well. The craftsmanship and
detail on ours' is superior, but the finish just didn't hold up.

Bob

"BurlaT3" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<pi23b.276303$uu5.61982@sccrnsc04>...
> 1. The moisture marks you refer to may go away with stripping if it hasn't
> gone to far. not sure.
>
> 2. Lacquer can be stripped easily just follow the directions on your choice
> of strippers and it comes right off.
>
> 3. Don't paint it. If you really want to give up after all the work of
> stripping painting would be easy enough. Seal first.
>
> After you strip and are satisfied with the appearance and are ready to
> finish. I use Zinnser's Bullseye Sealcoat, which is basically a 2 Lb cut of
> shellac, for a sanding sealer. You can finish over it with any clear
> finish and it will stop all of the little nasties (fisheye, lifting, etc.)
> that a person gets with a less than perfect job of surface prep after
> stripping. Hey a guy can use all the help he can get.
> "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > We have cherrywood kitchen cabinets with lots of detail in the
> > woodwork. These are custom cabinets built by a local cabinet maker.
> > The applied finish is lacquer. Over the years the finish has
> > deteriorated due to steam and moisture. We'd like to refinish them
> > with polyurethane. However, I understand that polyurethane will not
> > bond properly to lacquer.
> >
> > 1. Is it possible to restore the appearance of the wood where its
> > stained with moisture marks?
> >
> > 2. Can the lacquer be stripped?
> >
> > 2. As a last resort, can the cabinets be painted?

BB

"BurlaT3"

in reply to [email protected] (Bob) on 27/08/2003 5:02 AM

28/08/2003 1:09 PM

I have used lacquer on mine for almost everyone, but it comes with a
disclaimer. You have to treat it like furniture, because its built like
furniture and finished like furniture. There are special lacquers that a
friend of mine uses but they are much more expensive. I believe they are
called pre-catalized. He is a commercial furniture builder and uses it for
the tops of tables that he builds. He says that he has left a glass of
icewater on it (in southern Missouri's humidity) overnight and didn't even
get a ring on top the finish let alone penetration. But really, I don't
think applying any kind of lacquer would be for you. Good luck on your
project.
P.S. I hope you picked one of the doors with alot of discoloration for your
experiment.
"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the reply. We will try it on one door first. We talked to
> people at two paint stores who told us to forget it; there wasn't much
> that could be done.
>
> Its a real shame that our cabinet maker chose to use lacquer. When we
> contracted with him, it didn't occur to me that he would do that. At
> the same time, my brother also had custom cabinets made, his were
> polyurethaned and are holding up very well. The craftsmanship and
> detail on ours' is superior, but the finish just didn't hold up.
>
> Bob
>
> "BurlaT3" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<pi23b.276303$uu5.61982@sccrnsc04>...
> > 1. The moisture marks you refer to may go away with stripping if it
hasn't
> > gone to far. not sure.
> >
> > 2. Lacquer can be stripped easily just follow the directions on your
choice
> > of strippers and it comes right off.
> >
> > 3. Don't paint it. If you really want to give up after all the work of
> > stripping painting would be easy enough. Seal first.
> >
> > After you strip and are satisfied with the appearance and are ready to
> > finish. I use Zinnser's Bullseye Sealcoat, which is basically a 2 Lb
cut of
> > shellac, for a sanding sealer. You can finish over it with any clear
> > finish and it will stop all of the little nasties (fisheye, lifting,
etc.)
> > that a person gets with a less than perfect job of surface prep after
> > stripping. Hey a guy can use all the help he can get.
> > "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > We have cherrywood kitchen cabinets with lots of detail in the
> > > woodwork. These are custom cabinets built by a local cabinet maker.
> > > The applied finish is lacquer. Over the years the finish has
> > > deteriorated due to steam and moisture. We'd like to refinish them
> > > with polyurethane. However, I understand that polyurethane will not
> > > bond properly to lacquer.
> > >
> > > 1. Is it possible to restore the appearance of the wood where its
> > > stained with moisture marks?
> > >
> > > 2. Can the lacquer be stripped?
> > >
> > > 2. As a last resort, can the cabinets be painted?

BB

"BurlaT3"

in reply to [email protected] (Bob) on 27/08/2003 5:02 AM

27/08/2003 1:24 PM

1. The moisture marks you refer to may go away with stripping if it hasn't
gone to far. not sure.

2. Lacquer can be stripped easily just follow the directions on your choice
of strippers and it comes right off.

3. Don't paint it. If you really want to give up after all the work of
stripping painting would be easy enough. Seal first.

After you strip and are satisfied with the appearance and are ready to
finish. I use Zinnser's Bullseye Sealcoat, which is basically a 2 Lb cut of
shellac, for a sanding sealer. You can finish over it with any clear
finish and it will stop all of the little nasties (fisheye, lifting, etc.)
that a person gets with a less than perfect job of surface prep after
stripping. Hey a guy can use all the help he can get.
"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We have cherrywood kitchen cabinets with lots of detail in the
> woodwork. These are custom cabinets built by a local cabinet maker.
> The applied finish is lacquer. Over the years the finish has
> deteriorated due to steam and moisture. We'd like to refinish them
> with polyurethane. However, I understand that polyurethane will not
> bond properly to lacquer.
>
> 1. Is it possible to restore the appearance of the wood where its
> stained with moisture marks?
>
> 2. Can the lacquer be stripped?
>
> 2. As a last resort, can the cabinets be painted?


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