Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,
I thought I would start one.
No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.
I was making some sandpaper storage units, got tired of having curled
paper, or having to sift through tons of different grades/ manufacturers.
And tired of lining up holes on my ROS.
Anyway I started using up some different papers.
I have a load of Mirka, and a little 3x Norton, regular Norton, and 3M
Freecut.
Some opinions:
The mirka white paper is useless. I have to use it up. In a few strokes
there is no grit left. It turns a gray and is pretty much gone...
Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.
3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or yellow.
Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.
Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts. The grit just hangs in there,
it doesn't load up the same as the stuff above. I don't know what it is
about this stuff, but it will be what I buy going forward. I have not
tried Klingspor, So I can't compare.
On Jul 26, 10:39=A0am, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
> Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,.........
Yeah, I have noticed recently that we are starting to look like this
bunch:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.outdoors.rv-travel/topics?lnk=3Dsrg
The recent level of labeled or unlabeled OT's is increasing.
RonB
On Jul 26, 10:03=A0pm, George Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Aug 2, 10:03 pm).
Curious, how does one set this up? I went to the Edit Profile and saw
no such option.
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:36:08 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 7/30/11 6:11 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:45:36 -0400, Josepi wrote:
>>
>>> Another sock puppet of the troll responds to keep the troll going.
>>
>> I'd like to see your proof that I've ever posted under any name but my
>> own. On second thought, don't bother - I won't see it.
>>
>
>Oh geez, is this douchenozzle up to this again?
>I already went around that circle with him. He's a broken record.
>I honestly hopes he gets a job and moves out of Mom's basement so he can
>one day, possibly, get laid.
Honestly a troll once you engage them will do just about anything to
keep you playing they're game.
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:18:32 -0400, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>>There is, or was, a flag one could set in the header that said "do not
>>archive". In Pan there is a profile section called "Extra Headers" which
>>I suspect is where the flag could be added.
>And for those of you that are using Forte Agent, this option is under
>folder properties/usenet options.
Wording error, it's under Folder Properties or Default
Properties/Usenet Options.
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:32:48 -0400, "m II" <[email protected]> wrote:
>At least the US political posts, full of US self-importance, are very
>similar to sandpaper, in the way 40 grit would be so abrasive to the rest of
>the world trying to participate in a woodworking group.
In the US we're free to ignore speech that irritates us. You don't have such
freedoms in Canuckistan? Most of us are even smart enough to know how to use
a killfile.
>Nothing new here.
Indeed. The whining continues.
Most of us are also smart enough to post properly and trim posts...
<...>
In article <[email protected]>, Josepi
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
Indeed.
On 7/26/2011 10:50 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:39:19 -0400, tiredofspam wrote:
>
>> Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.
>>
>> 3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or
>> yellow.
>>
>> Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.
>>
>> Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts.
>
> That pretty much matches my experiences. I don't know if the Norton
> actually lasts 3 times as long, but it definitely lasts longer. It might
> even exceed the 3 times.
>
I went on ebay a few years ago and got over 500 sheets of sandpaper for
about 50 bucks. Mostly 3-M brand, aluminum oxide, garnet, wetordry (in
grits up to 2,000), a variety of other stuff. It's more flat paper than
I'm likely to use in my lifetime.
Especially now that most of my sanding is with a Bosch, even though
those disks run between 50 cents and a buck each, because it does such a
better job than any other kind of sanding I've tried. So, I'd personally
like to know, where's the best source for 5" hook-and-eye, 8-hole
pattern ROS paper?
"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
tiredofspam wrote:
> Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,
> I thought I would start one.
>
> No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.
>
I see you want to start a conversation about the Bush administration and its
relationship to sandpaper. As you recall, Bush was in a league, the American
League, as managing partner of the Texas Rangers baseball team. Sandpaper,
as you may also know, is stricktly prohibited in baseball (unscrupulous
pitchers sometimes used a bit of sandpaper to rough up the ball, making
difficult throws easier).
Monitoring sandpaper usage gave Dubya a unique perspective and honed skills
that would become useful later in his presidency. For example, detecting
WMDs even though they were well hidden.
LOL!
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Show us your woodworking posts, George Watson (incarnation)
I think this is crazy. But I'd rather have someone
known as the fool explain his condition.
Your freind George Watson left. You missed the closing
door? The on topic post he left you failed.
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,
>I thought I would start one.
>
>No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.
>
>I was making some sandpaper storage units, got tired of having curled
>paper, or having to sift through tons of different grades/ manufacturers.
>And tired of lining up holes on my ROS.
>
. seems as though your criteria fit with my ethic:->
This is one for "riddle me" types, maybe.. but let's give it
a shot?
Sometime ago I was bequeathed what did appear as
an unfinished project. Labeled by a plywood tag - twitched
to the work with a piece of baling twine - was the inscription
"CHESS TABLE".
The structure is coffee table height, of Black Walnut material
(a rather valuable rainforest timber) and completely finished
to sand and oil stage. With it were two sticks of timber some
2' in length, one of Red Cedar and the other (I am told)
Baltic Pine - or possibly Milky Pine (if local timber).
The surface or the tabletop consisted of a random
configuration of vacant inlays - isosceles triangles of
3", circles of 3" in diameter and 9²" squares.
All to a depth of 7/16".
Now (today) the project remains as it is was delivered.
Only because - as said on my knocking again on the door
of <r.w> - I do my best work in metals. Timber, particularly
using precious materials and no "leeway", does not offer
the "weld and grind" escape route metals do offer in
precision work.
Despite the efforts of 3m®, Bear® and Selleys®, products
in boasting "fix anything" timber cannot be made to
"grow to fit" - on the job.
So once I worked out how to proceed the project was
wrapped once again an' placed in storage, with a warm smile
in recognising the 'wit' of my benefactor. A "smart-arse"
ol' "bushie" of yesteryear... having a last laugh.
The question is.
What form factor were the two sticks supplied as
material for inlay fill.
round [ ]
square [ ]
rectangular [ ]
something else [ ]
?
?
?
A clue?
The answer came to me whilst "babysitting" my
3yr old GD, an avid Sesame Street fan.
Positively interesting are the messages in
Sesame Street productions.. for Big Peoples :-)
george
Puzzles me. Fails you.
Pat
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:45:36 -0400, Josepi wrote:
>
>> Another sock puppet of the troll responds to keep the troll going.
>
> I'd like to see your proof that I've ever posted under any name but my
> own. On second thought, don't bother - I won't see it.
Don't sweat it Larry - consider the source. He and George Watson are of a
common ilk...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Jul 26, 11:39=A0am, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
> Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,
> I thought I would start one.
>
> No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.
>
> I was making some sandpaper storage units, got tired of having curled
> paper, or having to sift through tons of different grades/ manufacturers.
> And tired of lining up holes on my ROS.
>
> Anyway I started using up some different papers.
>
> I have a load of Mirka, and a little 3x Norton, regular Norton, and 3M
> Freecut.
>
> Some opinions:
>
> The mirka white paper is useless. I have to use it up. In a few strokes
> there is no grit left. It turns a gray and is pretty much gone...
>
> Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.
>
> 3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or yellow.
>
> Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.
>
> Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts. The grit just hangs in there,
> it doesn't load up the same as the stuff above. I don't know what it is
> about this stuff, but it will be what I buy going forward. I have not
> tried Klingspor, So I can't compare.
I have noticed that storage affects the paper's longevity as well.
Humidity just kills some of the Mirka paper-backed stuff.
In sheets, I really like the Norton3X a lot, except that here, Home
Depot is stupidly expensive.
On 7/26/2011 10:52 AM, RonB wrote:
> On Jul 26, 10:39 am, tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>> Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,.........
>
> Yeah, I have noticed recently that we are starting to look like this
> bunch:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.outdoors.rv-travel/topics?lnk=srg
>
> The recent level of labeled or unlabeled OT's is increasing.
Try posting woodworking content and the same five or six folks post a
message or two, then it's over.
I agree that Norton's 3x sandpaper is indeed one of the best sandpapers,
if not the best, out there that can be bought locally.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 8/7/2011 5:09 AM, m II wrote:
> You didn't, we do, you don't, you did, and you didn't.
>
> Best of luck with those.
>
> ---------------
> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> In the US we're free to ignore speech that irritates us. You don't have
> such
> freedoms in Canuckistan? Most of us are even smart enough to know how to
> use
> a killfile.
>
> Indeed. The whining continues.
>
> Most of us are also smart enough to post properly and trim posts...
>
>
>
>
You need to change that "most" to "a few".
They are **ALL** under your name. Show me the posts you posted under a
different name.
Easy proof. Stupid reasoning.
---------------
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:45:36 -0400, Josepi wrote:
> Another sock puppet of the troll responds to keep the troll going.
I'd like to see your proof that I've ever posted under any name but my
own. On second thought, don't bother - I won't see it.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
"SawDust" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Show us your woodworking posts, George Watson (incarnation)
I think this is crazy. But I'd rather have someone
known as the fool explain his condition.
Your freind George Watson left. You missed the closing
door? The on topic post he left you failed.
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,
>I thought I would start one.
>
>No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.
>
>I was making some sandpaper storage units, got tired of having curled
>paper, or having to sift through tons of different grades/ manufacturers.
>And tired of lining up holes on my ROS.
>
. seems as though your criteria fit with my ethic:->
This is one for "riddle me" types, maybe.. but let's give it
a shot?
Sometime ago I was bequeathed what did appear as
an unfinished project. Labeled by a plywood tag - twitched
to the work with a piece of baling twine - was the inscription
"CHESS TABLE".
The structure is coffee table height, of Black Walnut material
(a rather valuable rainforest timber) and completely finished
to sand and oil stage. With it were two sticks of timber some
2' in length, one of Red Cedar and the other (I am told)
Baltic Pine - or possibly Milky Pine (if local timber).
The surface or the tabletop consisted of a random
configuration of vacant inlays - isosceles triangles of
3", circles of 3" in diameter and 9²" squares.
All to a depth of 7/16".
Now (today) the project remains as it is was delivered.
Only because - as said on my knocking again on the door
of <r.w> - I do my best work in metals. Timber, particularly
using precious materials and no "leeway", does not offer
the "weld and grind" escape route metals do offer in
precision work.
Despite the efforts of 3m®, Bear® and Selleys®, products
in boasting "fix anything" timber cannot be made to
"grow to fit" - on the job.
So once I worked out how to proceed the project was
wrapped once again an' placed in storage, with a warm smile
in recognising the 'wit' of my benefactor. A "smart-arse"
ol' "bushie" of yesteryear... having a last laugh.
The question is.
What form factor were the two sticks supplied as
material for inlay fill.
round [ ]
square [ ]
rectangular [ ]
something else [ ]
?
?
?
A clue?
The answer came to me whilst "babysitting" my
3yr old GD, an avid Sesame Street fan.
Positively interesting are the messages in
Sesame Street productions.. for Big Peoples :-)
george
Puzzles me. Fails you.
Pat
--------------------------
Great! Now you have made him morph into another incarnation!
mike
The troll you address is a Usenet goofball with huge inferiority complex
that knows very little about anything Usenet.
IOW: He is a huge bullshitter.
-----------------------
"GooeyTarballs" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jul 26, 10:03 pm, George Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Aug 2, 10:03 pm).
Curious, how does one set this up? I went to the Edit Profile and saw
no such option.
At least the US political posts, full of US self-importance, are very
similar to sandpaper, in the way 40 grit would be so abrasive to the rest of
the world trying to participate in a woodworking group.
Nothing new here.
----------------------
"Tom B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I see you want to start a conversation about the Bush administration and its
relationship to sandpaper. As you recall, Bush was in a league, the American
League, as managing partner of the Texas Rangers baseball team. Sandpaper,
as you may also know, is stricktly prohibited in baseball (unscrupulous
pitchers sometimes used a bit of sandpaper to rough up the ball, making
difficult throws easier).
Monitoring sandpaper usage gave Dubya a unique perspective and honed skills
that would become useful later in his presidency. For example, detecting
WMDs even though they were well hidden.
LOL!
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:36:08 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I honestly hope he gets a job and moves out of Mom's basement so he can
>one day, possibly, get laid.
Honestly, do you really want to take the chance of him procreating?
Darwin's law is supposed to be "survival of the fittest" not who might
get lucky.
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
>There is, or was, a flag one could set in the header that said "do not
>archive". In Pan there is a profile section called "Extra Headers" which
>I suspect is where the flag could be added.
>
>But it is up to the archival site to honor that flag or ignore it.
And for those of you that are using Forte Agent, this option is under
folder properties/usenet options.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:39:19 -0400, tiredofspam wrote:
> Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.
>
> 3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or
> yellow.
>
> Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.
>
> Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts.
That pretty much matches my experiences. I don't know if the Norton
actually lasts 3 times as long, but it definitely lasts longer. It might
even exceed the 3 times.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On 7/26/2011 10:39 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
...
> Some opinions:
>
> The mirka white paper is useless. I have to use it up. In a few strokes
> there is no grit left. It turns a gray and is pretty much gone...
>
> Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.
>
> 3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or yellow.
>
> Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.
>
> Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts. The grit just hangs in there,
> it doesn't load up the same as the stuff above. I don't know what it is
> about this stuff, but it will be what I buy going forward. I have not
> tried Klingspor, So I can't compare.
There was a review (which I haven't read yet) of various vendors in
recent FWW...noticed they did do measured testing of removal rates,
longevity, estimated from those a cost-effectiveness for each as the end
result.
For routine 5" round I use pressure sensitive in bulk rolls obtained
from the local auto-body supply. It's generally either 3M or Norton;
quite a lot cheaper/sheet than any of the other alternatives in pricing
and at least as good as any except very expensive Klingspor. I've not
done much volume recently so still working on last batches so not sure
what current pricing actually is but I'd suggest checking it out for
those who do use large enough quantities that a large roll isn't
overstocking _too_ greatly...
--
On 7/26/2011 10:39 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
...
> The mirka white paper is useless. I have to use it up. In a few strokes
> there is no grit left. It turns a gray and is pretty much gone...
>
> Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.
>
> 3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or yellow.
>
> Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.
>
> Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts. The grit just hangs in there,
> it doesn't load up the same as the stuff above. I don't know what it is
> about this stuff, but it will be what I buy going forward. I have not
> tried Klingspor, So I can't compare.
I mentioned earlier a comparison in FWW recently...
Looked it up; turns out it was in FHB instead (last issue)
Of those they rated, Klingspor VD900 was rated tops overall and also
best value.
Unfortunately, the selection wasn't all that extensive and the
Norton-branded used wasn't 3X so there's no way to tell how they would
have stacked up head to head in their evaluation.
Mirka Gold was in the pack; maybe 2nd for one of the grits used...
--
> Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This
> message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Aug 2, 10:03 pm).
>
> Curious, how does one set this up? I went to the Edit Profile and saw no
> such option.
There is, or was, a flag one could set in the header that said "do not
archive". In Pan there is a profile section called "Extra Headers" which
I suspect is where the flag could be added.
But it is up to the archival site to honor that flag or ignore it.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On 7/30/11 6:11 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:45:36 -0400, Josepi wrote:
>
>> Another sock puppet of the troll responds to keep the troll going.
>
> I'd like to see your proof that I've ever posted under any name but my
> own. On second thought, don't bother - I won't see it.
>
Oh geez, is this douchenozzle up to this again?
I already went around that circle with him. He's a broken record.
I honestly hopes he gets a job and moves out of Mom's basement so he can
one day, possibly, get laid.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote:
>Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,
>I thought I would start one.
>
>No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.
>
>I was making some sandpaper storage units, got tired of having curled
>paper, or having to sift through tons of different grades/ manufacturers.
>And tired of lining up holes on my ROS.
>
.. seems as though your criteria fit with my ethic:->
This is one for "riddle me" types, maybe.. but let's give it
a shot?
Sometime ago I was bequeathed what did appear as
an unfinished project. Labeled by a plywood tag - twitched
to the work with a piece of baling twine - was the inscription
"CHESS TABLE".
The structure is coffee table height, of Black Walnut material
(a rather valuable rainforest timber) and completely finished
to sand and oil stage. With it were two sticks of timber some
2' in length, one of Red Cedar and the other (I am told)
Baltic Pine - or possibly Milky Pine (if local timber).
The surface or the tabletop consisted of a random
configuration of vacant inlays - isosceles triangles of
3", circles of 3" in diameter and 9²" squares.
All to a depth of 7/16".
Now (today) the project remains as it is was delivered.
Only because - as said on my knocking again on the door
of <r.w> - I do my best work in metals. Timber, particularly
using precious materials and no "leeway", does not offer
the "weld and grind" escape route metals do offer in
precision work.
Despite the efforts of 3m®, Bear® and Selleys®, products
in boasting "fix anything" timber cannot be made to
"grow to fit" - on the job.
So once I worked out how to proceed the project was
wrapped once again an' placed in storage, with a warm smile
in recognising the 'wit' of my benefactor. A "smart-arse"
ol' "bushie" of yesteryear... having a last laugh.
The question is.
What form factor were the two sticks supplied as
material for inlay fill.
round [ ]
square [ ]
rectangular [ ]
something else [ ]
?
?
?
A clue?
The answer came to me whilst "babysitting" my
3yr old GD, an avid Sesame Street fan.
Positively interesting are the messages in
Sesame Street productions.. for Big Peoples :-)
george
Oh look! Three of your personalities in the same thread repeating the same
thing???
Wot a surprise, George!
------------------
"Dave" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Honestly, do you really want to take the chance of him procreating?
Darwin's law is supposed to be "survival of the fittest" not who might
get lucky
---------------
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:36:08 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I honestly hope he gets a job and moves out of Mom's basement so he can
>one day, possibly, get laid.
.
Another sock puppet of the troll responds to keep the troll going.
==============
"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
There is, or was, a flag one could set in the header that said "do not
archive". In Pan there is a profile section called "Extra Headers" which
I suspect is where the flag could be added.
But it is up to the archival site to honor that flag or ignore it.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On 7/26/2011 1:30 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 7/26/2011 10:50 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:39:19 -0400, tiredofspam wrote:
>>
>>> Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.
>>>
>>> 3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or
>>> yellow.
>>>
>>> Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.
>>>
>>> Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts.
>>
>> That pretty much matches my experiences. I don't know if the Norton
>> actually lasts 3 times as long, but it definitely lasts longer. It might
>> even exceed the 3 times.
>>
>
> I went on ebay a few years ago and got over 500 sheets of sandpaper for
> about 50 bucks. Mostly 3-M brand, aluminum oxide, garnet, wetordry (in
> grits up to 2,000), a variety of other stuff. It's more flat paper than
> I'm likely to use in my lifetime.
>
> Especially now that most of my sanding is with a Bosch, even though
> those disks run between 50 cents and a buck each, because it does such a
> better job than any other kind of sanding I've tried. So, I'd personally
> like to know, where's the best source for 5" hook-and-eye, 8-hole
> pattern ROS paper?
I have found that Festool paper lasts pretty good and especially the
"Crystal" papers. Part of the longer life from the Festool papers is
because the superior dust collection when coupled with a vac. With less
dust build up the paper stays cooler and lasts longer and does not clog
as quickly. I have found that with the Crystal Festool paper that I can
sand the squeezed out glued joints of 7-8 drawers with out glue clogging
the paper. Down side is that you would probably need a Festool sander
for that paper, or that could be a good thing.
You didn't, we do, you don't, you did, and you didn't.
Best of luck with those.
---------------
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
In the US we're free to ignore speech that irritates us. You don't have
such
freedoms in Canuckistan? Most of us are even smart enough to know how to
use
a killfile.
Indeed. The whining continues.
Most of us are also smart enough to post properly and trim posts...
Show us your woodworking posts, George Watson (incarnation)
-------
"Markem" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Honestly a troll once you engage them will do just about anything to
keep you playing they're game.
tiredofspam wrote:
> Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic,
> I thought I would start one.
>
> No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.
>
I see you want to start a conversation about the Bush administration and its
relationship to sandpaper. As you recall, Bush was in a league, the American
League, as managing partner of the Texas Rangers baseball team. Sandpaper,
as you may also know, is stricktly prohibited in baseball (unscrupulous
pitchers sometimes used a bit of sandpaper to rough up the ball, making
difficult throws easier).
Monitoring sandpaper usage gave Dubya a unique perspective and honed skills
that would become useful later in his presidency. For example, detecting
WMDs even though they were well hidden.