Upscale wrote:
> "jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > expensive, so do a cost/benefit analysis. I don't know your area but
> > out here (S.Cal boondocks), prices start at $75 a foot with plumbing
> > bumping it by 30% or so. As dadiOH said, price out a garage.
>
> Is that price per square feet? Seems kind of expensive to me. For a 20'x20'
> shed at $75 a foot that come out to $30,000.
Wow. About nine or ten years ago, my wife helped me build a 25' x 48'
shop. Total investment was about $14,000. That included things like
trading for the windows which were removed from a house to be replaced
with new vinyl, using a sheet metal roof, using rough poplar and SYP
for siding and subfloor, a 200 amp Square D panel and enough circuit
breakers, etc., etc., etc. With the exception of framing the roof and
installing the metal roofing (do NOT try to install sheetmetal roofing
seconds unless you can easily figure out how to allow for the 3/16"
screw ups from the manufacturer). OSB walls and ceilings and t&g sanded
plywood for a finish floor. Electric furnace (chiseled from a local
HVAC dealer when he removed it from a house to install a heat pump).
Lots of trading and bargaining, but it all passed inspection and has
been in use for a good time now.
What I was trying to illustrate, Mr. Smartypants... that the cost
depends on the options selected.
Basic car $20,000 add the toys $ 40,000.
Basic garage $ 7,000 add the toys (like HVAC, skylights, sound system,
floor-to-ceiling windows, stage with stripper-pole, bar) before you
know it $ 40,000+
What we pay for cars up her depends on how many dogs you get to pull
them.
I hope this is clear now.
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"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
> -Jim
>
Jim, here is an idea. Go to www.tuffshed.com. Yes, the garden shed folks
also build garages. You can get prices right on the web site. Just find
your local dealer and, at least for my area, they publish there prices.
Even though you plan to build it yourself you can use their numbers to back
into an estimate.
Here is SoCal, a 20x20 is $8,875. That does not include concrete pad, or
windows, or much of anything except the weather tight shell.
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jtpr wrote:
> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I
> know there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
Call local builders and ask about costs for a garage.
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For what is worth I built a boat shed last summer here in Maine for $6,100.
It is 28 by 14 and has a dirt floor. Wiring is rudimentary, just a 15 amp
lighting circuit and the floor is dirt. there is a pair of 4 1/2 foot doors
and an entry door. All the lumber was local green; spruce for the frame and
pine for the roof boards and siding (board and batten). There is no
insulation. I paid to have the roof shingled but everything else was done
by me.
Dave
On 22 Aug 2005 08:40:40 -0700, the opaque "jtpr" <[email protected]>
clearly wrote:
>I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
>there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
>ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
>building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
Check local contractor prices on garages. They're the most common
building and usually the cheapest. Finish the interior yourself after
you wire it for 220v and fluors everywhere, or let them do it.
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jtpr wrote:
> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
> -Jim
>
Lots of variable here. In southern NH, you'll want insulation and a
heater. Go for several windows, a large slider or garage door, a
subpanel, 9' ceilings (min), etc. Pay attention to lighting. There
have been lots of threads dealing with these subjects, so I suggest a
bit of research there. A shop sink and a toilet are nice but a bit
expensive, so do a cost/benefit analysis. I don't know your area but
out here (S.Cal boondocks), prices start at $75 a foot with plumbing
bumping it by 30% or so. As dadiOH said, price out a garage.
mahalo,
jo4hn
"Chris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Edwin,
> I am in central MA. Could you tell me were about this pre-fab place is?
> Just curious.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
I looked when I passed it today and the larger garage is there with a
$25,900 sign.
It is on Route 16 in Douglass, MA. Just because I've been passing it for
16 years, twice a day. don't expect me to know the name of it. I'll stop
and get it tomorrow.
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
> -Jim
I pass a place in Central MA that sells pre-fab houses and garages. Thee is
a sign on a two car garage with a second floor attic that reads $11,900. I
have no idea if that includes any foundation or slab.
Charlie Self wrote:
> Upscale wrote:
>
>>"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>>expensive, so do a cost/benefit analysis. I don't know your area but
>>>out here (S.Cal boondocks), prices start at $75 a foot with plumbing
>>>bumping it by 30% or so. As dadiOH said, price out a garage.
>>
>>Is that price per square feet? Seems kind of expensive to me. For a 20'x20'
>>shed at $75 a foot that come out to $30,000.
>
>
> Wow. About nine or ten years ago, my wife helped me build a 25' x 48'
> shop. Total investment was about $14,000. That included things like
> trading for the windows which were removed from a house to be replaced
> with new vinyl, using a sheet metal roof, using rough poplar and SYP
> for siding and subfloor, a 200 amp Square D panel and enough circuit
> breakers, etc., etc., etc. With the exception of framing the roof and
> installing the metal roofing (do NOT try to install sheetmetal roofing
> seconds unless you can easily figure out how to allow for the 3/16"
> screw ups from the manufacturer). OSB walls and ceilings and t&g sanded
> plywood for a finish floor. Electric furnace (chiseled from a local
> HVAC dealer when he removed it from a house to install a heat pump).
>
> Lots of trading and bargaining, but it all passed inspection and has
> been in use for a good time now.
>
Okey Dokey. Guess I'm used to SoCal prices. Undoubtedly high for NH.
Sigh. I've been watching the DIY reruns of the TOH series on the
house/barn that they bought in Miford, MA. Steve went with a real
estate agent to price other homes in the area. Stuff that would go for
at least one million and up here were in the 300K to 800K range.
Granted that was several years ago.
My house cost a bit upward of $200 a foot. Worth every penny.
mahalo,
jo4hn
Edwin,
I am in central MA. Could you tell me were about this pre-fab place is?
Just curious.
Thanks,
Chris
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>
> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
>> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
>> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
>> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>>
>> -Jim
>
> I pass a place in Central MA that sells pre-fab houses and garages. Thee
> is a sign on a two car garage with a second floor attic that reads
> $11,900. I have no idea if that includes any foundation or slab.
>
I built a 12x16 shop 2 years ago, sets upon 3 rows or RR ties, finished
& painted inside and out, insulated, wiring (50 amp subpanel), lights,
windows, metal roof. I didn't cut any corners and its well constructed,
3/4" IO plywood floor on 2x6s, 12" centers, walls on 24" centers and
pitched roof on 16" centers & full 8' walls. Only thing missing is
dedicated heat. Cost me $2400, or $12.50/sqft.
John
jtpr wrote:
> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
> -Jim
>
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
> -Jim
>
Northern Kansas. 24'x30' shop building, insulated, wired (100 amp service),
on a code-specific concrete slab. 20 to 22,000 dollars. No sweat equality,
involved. Only think odd, was the design requirement of a row of windows
along both of the long side, approximately 2'x4' each.
This is probably a high end estimate.
James...
"Chris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Edwin,
> I am in central MA. Could you tell me were about this pre-fab place is?
> Just curious.
>
GBI/Avis Modular Homes.
route 16
Douglas MA
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> "jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> expensive, so do a cost/benefit analysis. I don't know your area but
>> out here (S.Cal boondocks), prices start at $75 a foot with plumbing
>> bumping it by 30% or so. As dadiOH said, price out a garage.
>
> Is that price per square feet? Seems kind of expensive to me. For a
> 20'x20' shed at $75 a foot that come out to $30,000.
>
>
Welcome to California.
Patriarch
"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
>> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
>> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
>> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>
> Jim, here is an idea. Go to www.tuffshed.com. Yes, the garden shed folks
> also build garages. You can get prices right on the web site. Just find
> your local dealer and, at least for my area, they publish there prices.
> Even though you plan to build it yourself you can use their numbers to
> back
> into an estimate.
>
> Here is SoCal, a 20x20 is $8,875. That does not include concrete pad, or
> windows, or much of anything except the weather tight shell.
>
>
Also, some of these shed-garage builders maintain "showrooms" where many of
the sheds and garages they build are featured. You can actually walk around
them and see if they will fit your needs.
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote
> jtpr wrote:
>> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I
>> know there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
>> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
>> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
>
>
> Call local builders and ask about costs for a garage.
>
Depending where you are, there are companies who specialize in this sort of
thing.
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:39:50 -0400, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> expensive, so do a cost/benefit analysis. I don't know your area but
>> out here (S.Cal boondocks), prices start at $75 a foot with plumbing
>> bumping it by 30% or so. As dadiOH said, price out a garage.
>
>Is that price per square feet? Seems kind of expensive to me. For a 20'x20'
>shed at $75 a foot that come out to $30,000.
That sounds about right for a licensed contractor's price to me. If
you build it yourself or find someone who just does little stuff like
that, you might get it for anywhere from $5000-$15000. Prices will
vary depending on area, of course.
It's doable for one or two people in a couple of good weekends, if you
work hard at it, and have a good idea of how to do it. If you don't
know how to do it, it can turn into a nightmare very quickly. A frank
talk with the local building inspector and a good book on framing go a
long way if you want to do it yourself.
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> expensive, so do a cost/benefit analysis. I don't know your area but
> out here (S.Cal boondocks), prices start at $75 a foot with plumbing
> bumping it by 30% or so. As dadiOH said, price out a garage.
Is that price per square feet? Seems kind of expensive to me. For a 20'x20'
shed at $75 a foot that come out to $30,000.
On 22 Aug 2005 09:55:17 -0700, the opaque "Robatoy"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>I find it works out to about the same price as a car.
Down here in the states, locals get $7-9k for 2-car garages.
Hmmm, what do you Canuckistanis pay for cars up there?
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Cannot speak for NH, but here in North Florida year ago I had a
500sq.ft addition built - 1 story, STONE siding, ran approx $20 a
sq.ft on a monolith slab Interior was UNFINISHED (ie, no drywall, no
ceiling) and no electrical (did all the wiring myself, as well as
insulation and walls and ceiling). No windows, and a 10ft roll up
garage door at either end of the structure
Basically you get what you pay for, and I would figure on $20 a sq.ft.
as pretty much the low end of the cost spectrum
John
On 22 Aug 2005 08:40:40 -0700, "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
>there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
>ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
>building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
>-Jim
Oops, forgot to mention, I'm in New Mexico, however the only thing you'd
probably do different is add a thicker insulation. I used R13 as it
doesn't get really cold here (R15 is as max for 2x4 walls & not carried
locally), and you'll want some manner of vapor barrier due to your
humidity, something we rarely have here too.
John
John DeBoo wrote:
> I built a 12x16 shop 2 years ago, sets upon 3 rows or RR ties, finished
> & painted inside and out, insulated, wiring (50 amp subpanel), lights,
> windows, metal roof. I didn't cut any corners and its well constructed,
> 3/4" IO plywood floor on 2x6s, 12" centers, walls on 24" centers and
> pitched roof on 16" centers & full 8' walls. Only thing missing is
> dedicated heat. Cost me $2400, or $12.50/sqft.
> John
>
> jtpr wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
>> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
>> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
>> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
On 23 Aug 2005 05:44:01 -0700, the opaque "Robatoy"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>What I was trying to illustrate, Mr. Smartypants... that the cost
That's "Mr. Larry" to you, boy.
>depends on the options selected.
>Basic car $20,000 add the toys $ 40,000.
>Basic garage $ 7,000 add the toys (like HVAC, skylights, sound system,
>floor-to-ceiling windows, stage with stripper-pole, bar) before you
>know it $ 40,000+
Don't forget the padded flooring for putting those poleriders (so to
speak) to best use.
>What we pay for cars up her depends on how many dogs you get to pull
>them.
So what's pullin' your sled, Fred?
>I hope this is clear now.
As mud. (Typical.)
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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> writes:
>What we pay for cars up her depends on how many dogs you get to pull them.
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Jim,
In the same boat as you. I think the one variable here is the location.
Not getting cheaper around here (I am just south of the border from you).
I am looking at an addition with a shop included. One thing that I am
finding is that it is hard to find a decent builder. Most of them are tied
up in new housing boom. Plus most would rather build new and not worry
about the inherit problems with additions. Not your case if it is a
completely separate building.
What style building are you thinking about? I have seen some pretty decent
pricing on steel prefab buildings (the kind that come all on one truck). If
you have the equipment to erect, it would be a cheap build I am sure.
Problem is that steel buildings do not really fit into this area, and are
most likely frowned upon come selling time.
I was thinking of a more conventional (for this area) barn style building
(detached), but that really sends the cost up. Than I turned to adding on
the addition with a larger three car attached. Might be a little costlier,
but attached buildings always bring in more value. I could than use the
"garage" as a workshop without the effect on resale. One potential buyer
would see a three car garage, and the other would see a workshop.
I guess there are pros and cons on attached and detached, but the resale
factor is one that has me leaning towards attached.
I use to know the numbers for cost of sqft.... but it fails me know. I do
know that you could call you insurance agent and ask. There is a book that
they used for each specific area that details the different cost. It is
some standard book that the name fails me, but any insurance agent will know
for sure. Like mentioned before, ask about the sqft replacement cost of a
garage. One thing to keep in mind is most costs are for conventional sizes
tied to the structure itself. Meaning that a standard two car is 24'x20' (I
think). If you want a something just a couple of feet larger, than the
costs will rise per sqft, mostly due to rafters, ceiling joists and beams.
Chris
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm thinking about building a seperate building for a workshop. I know
> there are endless variable here, but what I'm wondering is what a
> ballpark figure would be to build a wood frame, 1 story, nice looking
> building for a workshop, per square foot. This is in Southern NH.
>
> -Jim
>