Bo

"Bruce on horizon"

23/07/2005 9:59 AM

Router table design

A friend gave me a woodworking magazine that had a fantastic design for a
router table that could make micro adjustment to the bit height by turning a
crank screw from the top of the table with out messing with the router. I
can't find the magazine(wife cleaned out my reading stack) and was wondering
if anyone knew what magazine this design was featured in so I buy a
replacement copy of the magazine.
Thanks in advance
Bruce


This topic has 12 replies

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"BobS"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

24/07/2005 3:35 PM

For those that may not know, Pat Warner designed this router fence several
years back and it was a featured article in FWW. It was a very well written
and inspired me to try and build the fence. I initially built a beta
version to practice cutting the pieces that make this fence as accurate as
it is. The guides were close but not quite there. After a couple of emails
to Pat for some advice, the next iteration came out great.

I certainly can't say that mine would meet Pat's specifications and there is
more work to building this fence than meets the eye. So if you decide to
build one, be prepared for several challenges. If you need accuracy,
repeatability and want a real workhorse in your shop, than anyone interested
in purchasing one of these will find it to be money well spent.

Being only a hobbyist, this fence hasn't seen any real production use but
after doing two complete kitchen makeovers for family, and a number of other
projects, that fence is still rock solid and accurate and definitely has
made routing an enjoyable part of my projects. The router used to be a tool
that was fired-up only when something needed an edge treatment - and I
really didn't look forward to using it all that much. After reading some
more articles at his site (www.patwarner.com) and several of his books, the
router is now second to the tablesaw as the most used tools in my shop.

I know this sounds like I'm shilling for Pat (and I'm probably embarrassing
him) but there's no association other than a very satisfied customer. If you
want to learn more about routing - give his site a good close look. Pat is
also very good at answering emails as well as offering advice here in the
group. He's been an excellent mentor and one of the few pro's to continue to
offer sage advice.

Bob S.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This (at the pix link) can adjust continuously up/down & east/west in a
> very controlled fashion.
>
> http://www.patwarner.com/images/bdpwf.jpg
>
> Fence is at the http://www.patwarner.com/routerfence.html link.
> The lift is BenchDogger.
>

p

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

23/07/2005 1:00 PM

This (at the pix link) can adjust continuously up/down & east/west in a
very controlled fashion.

http://www.patwarner.com/images/bdpwf.jpg

Fence is at the http://www.patwarner.com/routerfence.html link.
The lift is BenchDogger.

Mi

"Mike in Arkansas"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

24/07/2005 12:10 PM

American Woodworker had plans to build a router table and a router
lift. The plans were in two magazines. The table was in the March
2000 issue and the router lift plans in the March 2004 issue.

Pn

Prometheus

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

24/07/2005 6:33 AM

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:59:50 -0400, "Bruce on horizon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>A friend gave me a woodworking magazine that had a fantastic design for a
>router table that could make micro adjustment to the bit height by turning a
>crank screw from the top of the table with out messing with the router. I
>can't find the magazine(wife cleaned out my reading stack) and was wondering
>if anyone knew what magazine this design was featured in so I buy a
>replacement copy of the magazine.

Woodsmith had something like that as a reader's suggestion. All it
was was a pipe clamp with one end bolted to the underside of the top-
it did look sort of handy, though. That one had the crank under the
table- not above it, but you can buy inserts that have a removable
handle that you can use to adjust the bit height from the top of the
table. Is it possible that you were looking at suggested hardware in
that article? I'd think that would be too much effort to make to
really be worthwhile.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

23/07/2005 12:07 PM

"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:yFtEe.2704
> Accurate to or graduated in? There is a difference.

> > I don't know about the magazine, but you can buy those lifts lots of
> > places. I got mine at www.woodpeck.com - accurate to 1/1000" - and
> > matched it with an incra fence, also accurate to 1/1000".

I suppose it's accurate to 1/1000" The threads on their lifts are 32 pitch.
If it was graduated to 1/1000", it would take you all day to adjust a bit
height 1/2". Not the way I like to enjoy my woodworking.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

23/07/2005 5:23 PM

Supposing doesn't make it in this case. It doesn't really matter as very few
woodworkers would ever know or care but making claims like that means
something. The pitch of the threads has no bearing on accuracy. Milling
machines are graduated in .001 and they move along at a pretty good pace. I
looked up the lift. It is graduated to .001. Due to the mechanism involved
though, the chances of positioning router to that precision are slim.

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I suppose it's accurate to 1/1000" The threads on their lifts are 32
pitch.
> If it was graduated to 1/1000", it would take you all day to adjust a bit
> height 1/2". Not the way I like to enjoy my woodworking.
>
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

24/07/2005 6:58 PM

He asked about a specific measurement and you described "a little bit". Not
the same thing.

"DJ Delorie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "George" <[email protected]> writes:
> > Have you actually been able to adjust the Incra Fence 1/1000" at a time
> > using it's handwheel?
>
> Yes. This is really handy when I'm zeroing out the fence to the
> router bit (bits aren't perfect you know); I use a long straightedge
> cantilevered off the bit itself and sneak up to "no wiggle" with the
> dial. It's also handy for loosening up dovetail or box joints.
>
> Of course, I only do this when I need to make a cut that accurately,
> which happens occasionally when I'm making a jig for some other
> project.
>
> Also, you can consider a "half turn" to be 1/64 which comes in handy
> sometimes.

Gf

"George"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

23/07/2005 7:51 PM

Have you actually been able to adjust the Incra Fence 1/1000" at a time
using it's handwheel?

"DJ Delorie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I don't know about the magazine, but you can buy those lifts lots of
> places. I got mine at www.woodpeck.com - accurate to 1/1000" - and
> matched it with an incra fence, also accurate to 1/1000".

Bo

"Bruce on horizon"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

24/07/2005 7:45 AM

My friend made the table and it turned out to be a very design..That is why
I borrowed the design and subsequently lost the bloody thing. I will try
to look it up on woodsmith
Thanks
Bruce
>
> Woodsmith had something like that as a reader's suggestion. All it
> was was a pipe clamp with one end bolted to the underside of the top-
> it did look sort of handy, though. That one had the crank under the
> table- not above it, but you can buy inserts that have a removable
> handle that you can use to adjust the bit height from the top of the
> table. Is it possible that you were looking at suggested hardware in
> that article? I'd think that would be too much effort to make to
> really be worthwhile.
>

DD

DJ Delorie

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

24/07/2005 11:19 AM


"George" <[email protected]> writes:
> Have you actually been able to adjust the Incra Fence 1/1000" at a time
> using it's handwheel?

Yes. This is really handy when I'm zeroing out the fence to the
router bit (bits aren't perfect you know); I use a long straightedge
cantilevered off the bit itself and sneak up to "no wiggle" with the
dial. It's also handy for loosening up dovetail or box joints.

Of course, I only do this when I need to make a cut that accurately,
which happens occasionally when I'm making a jig for some other
project.

Also, you can consider a "half turn" to be 1/64 which comes in handy
sometimes.

DD

DJ Delorie

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

23/07/2005 10:39 AM


I don't know about the magazine, but you can buy those lifts lots of
places. I got mine at www.woodpeck.com - accurate to 1/1000" - and
matched it with an incra fence, also accurate to 1/1000".

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Bruce on horizon" on 23/07/2005 9:59 AM

23/07/2005 3:48 PM

Accurate to or graduated in? There is a difference.

"DJ Delorie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know about the magazine, but you can buy those lifts lots of
> places. I got mine at www.woodpeck.com - accurate to 1/1000" - and
> matched it with an incra fence, also accurate to 1/1000".


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