What is a planer you would recommend in the 400 dollar or less
catagory. Lowes has a Delta 12 or 12.5 cant remember for 199.99.
My dad said he would buy me one in exchange for converting his tow
behind sprayer from gas to electric and getting it ready for summer. I
already spent about 100 bucks on parts, so I may come out even, I dont
know.
Locally I have that Delta at Lowes available and also a 13 inch RIGID
at Home Depot.
What type of finish does a planer produce? Is it very smooth? Lots of
sanding still needs to be done after?
"brianlanning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Yeah, I thought about that. As it turns out, the 230 board-feet of
> wood that was supposed to be rough sawn (and it was priced that way)
> had really been planed down to 15/16 by the mill. The finish looked
> fairly good, and the boards are flat. So I don't plan on taking more
> than, say, 1/32" off any one pass. Still, I probably should set up the
> cyclone trashcan thing before hand.
Yeah, the cyclone trash can set up would be the way to go. I took me about
8 hours total to flatten and plane using a planer sled and a Delta 15"
planer running a 32 fpm. Have fun.... LOL. Fortunately you will not have
to take too many passes or flatten the boards first.
Planers are one of the cases where the bench top tools are very good.
I have a 12.5" delta. I plan to upgrade to a 15" floor standing model
for the next machine purchase. But I just picked up 230 board feet of
maple and hickory and plan to run all of that through the little
planer.
Generally, the bench top planers leave a very good finish in normal
grain. Figured grain tends to tear out, but chance are you won't be
using that for now. You'll still want to sand with a fine grit when
done, but the finish should be great.
You'll want some sort of dust collection with the planer. I use my
benchtop without dust collection because I don't have the shroud, but I
plan on trying to make one shortly. Make sure the planer comes with a
dust shroud. If it doesn't, buy that also. I think for a benchtop
planer, you can get away with using a shop vac for the dust collection.
I also heard that there's a new benchtop planer that has a fan or
something to eject chips. That could work also if you don't have a
shopvac or something. Be prepared to sweep. Planing makes a lot of
sawdust.
Amazon has two delta benchtop planers. I have an older version the
cheaper one and it's served me well. One feature that stands out on
the more expensive one is dual speed. If you can slow down the feed
rate, you'll get a better finish. The finish I get now is so good
though, I'm not sure how much better it would get.
Get the cheaper benchtop planer and put the extra money into the
jointer.
brian
Yeah, I thought about that. As it turns out, the 230 board-feet of
wood that was supposed to be rough sawn (and it was priced that way)
had really been planed down to 15/16 by the mill. The finish looked
fairly good, and the boards are flat. So I don't plan on taking more
than, say, 1/32" off any one pass. Still, I probably should set up the
cyclone trashcan thing before hand.
brian
>Fortunately you will not have
>to take too many passes or flatten the boards first.
Yeah. I'll be getting a grizzly g0490 delivered some time this week so
it should be fun, at first anyway. :-) I just wish I had the new
planer already. Hopefully, if I'll look real sad and tired, swmbo will
suggest I get the new planer now.
I had been debating whether or not to get the 10" griz jointer, but I
didn't think I would ever find reasonably priced boards wider than 8".
Then I went to the lumber mill. I had to turn boards down because they
were too wide and I didn't want to do the rip/glueup thing.
I don't plan on planing the entire 230 board feet at once since it's
ment for several projects. I also need some thin stock for this
project so I plan on resawing some of the boards (another first for me)
and the first real test of my delta 14" BS.
brian
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is a planer you would recommend in the 400 dollar or less
> catagory. Lowes has a Delta 12 or 12.5 cant remember for 199.99.
>
> My dad said he would buy me one in exchange for converting his tow
> behind sprayer from gas to electric and getting it ready for summer. I
> already spent about 100 bucks on parts, so I may come out even, I dont
> know.
>
> Locally I have that Delta at Lowes available and also a 13 inch RIGID
> at Home Depot.
>
> What type of finish does a planer produce? Is it very smooth? Lots of
> sanding still needs to be done after?
>
You should just buy the bed. :)
j/k..
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is a planer you would recommend in the 400 dollar or less
> catagory. Lowes has a Delta 12 or 12.5 cant remember for 199.99.
>
> My dad said he would buy me one in exchange for converting his tow
> behind sprayer from gas to electric and getting it ready for summer. I
> already spent about 100 bucks on parts, so I may come out even, I dont
> know.
>
> Locally I have that Delta at Lowes available and also a 13 inch RIGID
> at Home Depot.
>
> What type of finish does a planer produce? Is it very smooth? Lots of
> sanding still needs to be done after?
I thought you were getting a jointer? You have been making hundreds of posts
about jointers recently, right?
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:54:30 GMT, B a r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Leon wrote:
>> A planer produces big time waste as you
>> well know. You need a big time collector to keep up and not cost you more
>> time.
>
>
>Trash can cyclones work surprisingly well with the typical 1 1/2 to 2 HP
>collector.
They do. And the trash can cyclone is much easier to empty and set
back up than the large bags. I installed a plastic window on the side
so I can easily see when the can needs to be emptied.
hello,
go for a "refurbished" dewalt 735, they run in the $350 range.
do not get fooled by the so called refurbished, the 3 ones that I saw were
as good as the non refurbished, and I am more than happy with mine.
I love the motor assisted ejection, and you really just need a pipe and a
trash can with a cloth on top for dust collection (at least, it is a good
enough start)...
regards, cyrille
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is a planer you would recommend in the 400 dollar or less
> catagory. Lowes has a Delta 12 or 12.5 cant remember for 199.99.
>
> My dad said he would buy me one in exchange for converting his tow
> behind sprayer from gas to electric and getting it ready for summer. I
> already spent about 100 bucks on parts, so I may come out even, I dont
> know.
>
> Locally I have that Delta at Lowes available and also a 13 inch RIGID
> at Home Depot.
>
> What type of finish does a planer produce? Is it very smooth? Lots of
> sanding still needs to be done after?
>
"brianlanning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Planers are one of the cases where the bench top tools are very good.
> I have a 12.5" delta. I plan to upgrade to a 15" floor standing model
> for the next machine purchase. But I just picked up 230 board feet of
> maple and hickory and plan to run all of that through the little
> planer.
>
> Generally, the bench top planers leave a very good finish in normal
> grain. Figured grain tends to tear out, but chance are you won't be
> using that for now. You'll still want to sand with a fine grit when
> done, but the finish should be great.
>
> You'll want some sort of dust collection with the planer. I use my
> benchtop without dust collection because I don't have the shroud, but I
> plan on trying to make one shortly. Make sure the planer comes with a
> dust shroud. If it doesn't, buy that also. I think for a benchtop
> planer, you can get away with using a shop vac for the dust collection.
> I also heard that there's a new benchtop planer that has a fan or
> something to eject chips. That could work also if you don't have a
> shopvac or something. Be prepared to sweep. Planing makes a lot of
> sawdust.
For big runs I think using a regular sized dust collector would be a futile
effort. I just got finished planing 200+ bf of Oak and produced enough saw
dust to fill a typical sized dust collector 4 to 5 times a day for 2 days.
It took me 15 minutes each day to sweep up and dispose of the saw dust in to
6, 45 gallon plastic bags. I suspect it would take much longer to empty a
dust collector bag that many times. A planer produces big time waste as you
well know. You need a big time collector to keep up and not cost you more
time.
Ive had the Rigid for about 4 years now w/ no problems.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is a planer you would recommend in the 400 dollar or less
> catagory. Lowes has a Delta 12 or 12.5 cant remember for 199.99.
>
> My dad said he would buy me one in exchange for converting his tow
> behind sprayer from gas to electric and getting it ready for summer. I
> already spent about 100 bucks on parts, so I may come out even, I dont
> know.
>
> Locally I have that Delta at Lowes available and also a 13 inch RIGID
> at Home Depot.
>
> What type of finish does a planer produce? Is it very smooth? Lots of
> sanding still needs to be done after?
>
The Cyrille de Brébisson entity posted thusly:
>I love the motor assisted ejection, and you really just need a pipe and a
>trash can with a cloth on top for dust collection (at least, it is a good
>enough start)...
I've only seen a planer in action once, and your talk of dust
collection makes me wonder how that's accomplished. On the one I saw,
the chips came straight out the back, followed (less quickly of
course) by the board itself. How do you set up something to suck the
chips in, while not getting hit by the board itself?
The collection hood mounts right over the exit end, just high enough that
the board doesn't hit it. Gets about 98% of it.
"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Cyrille de Brébisson entity posted thusly:
>
> >I love the motor assisted ejection, and you really just need a pipe and a
> >trash can with a cloth on top for dust collection (at least, it is a good
> >enough start)...
>
> I've only seen a planer in action once, and your talk of dust
> collection makes me wonder how that's accomplished. On the one I saw,
> the chips came straight out the back, followed (less quickly of
> course) by the board itself. How do you set up something to suck the
> chips in, while not getting hit by the board itself?
>
On 17 Feb 2006 05:34:43 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>What is a planer you would recommend in the 400 dollar or less
>catagory. Lowes has a Delta 12 or 12.5 cant remember for 199.99.
I guess we are talking about 12 or 13" portable planers in that price
range. Take a look at Makita or DeWalt.
>
>My dad said he would buy me one in exchange for converting his tow
>behind sprayer from gas to electric and getting it ready for summer. I
>already spent about 100 bucks on parts, so I may come out even, I dont
>know.
A decent planer is around $500. Get one with a DC hood.
>
>Locally I have that Delta at Lowes available and also a 13 inch RIGID
>at Home Depot.
>
>What type of finish does a planer produce? Is it very smooth? Lots of
>sanding still needs to be done after?
With sharp blades and a bit of luck the finish is very smooth. Maybe
some 220 grit sandpaper will be needed. If you take a small amount on
the last pass the finish is even more smooth. Remember that wood is
wood, and some samples will be smoother than others, depending on
grain direction, knots, internal stresses, defects, etc.
One thing about planers is that they produce a LOT of sawdust. Moving
the sawdust quickly away from the machine will produce better results,
help keep your machine cool, and protect your health. You have a DC,
right?
"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:GslJf.1284$%[email protected]...
>
> Trash can cyclones work surprisingly well with the typical 1 1/2 to 2 HP
> collector.
Yeah I was not referring to the power, rather the storage capacity. The
easy to empty trash cans should work well. The cloth bags on most average
sized dust collectors would be way too small for a large planing job.
On 17 Feb 2006 05:58:18 -0800, "brianlanning" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Planers are one of the cases where the bench top tools are very good.
>I have a 12.5" delta. I plan to upgrade to a 15" floor standing model
>for the next machine purchase. But I just picked up 230 board feet of
>maple and hickory and plan to run all of that through the little
>planer.
>
>Generally, the bench top planers leave a very good finish in normal
>grain. Figured grain tends to tear out, but chance are you won't be
>using that for now. You'll still want to sand with a fine grit when
>done, but the finish should be great.
>
>You'll want some sort of dust collection with the planer. I use my
>benchtop without dust collection because I don't have the shroud, but I
>plan on trying to make one shortly. Make sure the planer comes with a
>dust shroud. If it doesn't, buy that also. I think for a benchtop
>planer, you can get away with using a shop vac for the dust collection.
> I also heard that there's a new benchtop planer that has a fan or
>something to eject chips. That could work also if you don't have a
>shopvac or something. Be prepared to sweep. Planing makes a lot of
>sawdust.
>
>Amazon has two delta benchtop planers. I have an older version the
>cheaper one and it's served me well. One feature that stands out on
>the more expensive one is dual speed. If you can slow down the feed
>rate, you'll get a better finish. The finish I get now is so good
>though, I'm not sure how much better it would get.
>
>Get the cheaper benchtop planer and put the extra money into the
>jointer.
>
>brian
My Makita surface planer did not have a dust hood. I could have
bought one for $70--ouch! Instead, I made a hood from some scrap
wood, some metal, an old metal can, metal tape, and some paint. It
took me a couple hours to make, but it was almost free and works
great! Expect a mess without proper dust collection!
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What is a planer you would recommend in the 400 dollar or less
> catagory. Lowes has a Delta 12 or 12.5 cant remember for 199.99.
>
> My dad said he would buy me one in exchange for converting his tow
> behind sprayer from gas to electric and getting it ready for summer. I
> already spent about 100 bucks on parts, so I may come out even, I dont
> know.
>
> Locally I have that Delta at Lowes available and also a 13 inch RIGID
> at Home Depot.
>
> What type of finish does a planer produce? Is it very smooth? Lots of
> sanding still needs to be done after?
I would go with the Rigid.
Initially any new planer will produce wonderfully smooth boards. However
way way way long before the blades become dull they will developed nicks and
you will need to scrape or sand the surface before applying a finish.
Thickness planers are not intended to provide the final surface before
applying a finish.