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"Rob V"

10/11/2004 11:51 PM

New Poplar Plywood at the orange borg

Just an fyi really. Going thru the local orange borg the other day needed
some ply for the stuff I was doing and noticed on the far end some nice
plywood - closer inspection showed it was poplar veneered ply - $30 a sheet.
A bit cheaper than the normal birch they carry and it stains better as well.

Just wanted to pass it along.

Thanks
Rob

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"Rob V"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 12:57 AM

3/4" plywood

"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:51:02 GMT, "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Just an fyi really. Going thru the local orange borg the other day
needed
> >some ply for the stuff I was doing and noticed on the far end some nice
> >plywood - closer inspection showed it was poplar veneered ply - $30 a
sheet.
> >A bit cheaper than the normal birch they carry and it stains better as
well.
> >
> >Just wanted to pass it along.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Rob
> >
> >You can reply to me at
> >r_b_v at v_e_r_z_e_r_a doht c_o_m
> >
> >remove _ to get the correct address
> >
> what thickness was it? just curious, with the $30 price..

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

16/11/2004 8:30 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Check out building materials, doors, windows, plumbing, electrical,
> etc... there's an awful lot missing from Lowes.com, as well.
>
In my part of the country, Lowes bought out Eagle Hardware. It didn't
take long for someone to figure out that "LOWES" was shorthand for "Less
Of What Eagle Carried" :-).

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LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

17/11/2004 1:24 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> "Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > In my part of the country, Lowes bought out Eagle Hardware. It didn't
> > take long for someone to figure out that "LOWES" was shorthand for "Less
> > Of What Eagle Carried" :-).
> >
>
> LOWEC? Stocked, perhaps?
>
Oops! You're right, of course :-).

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

Ws

"Woodchuck"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

10/11/2004 10:05 PM

Was just at our locate lowes and HD which were 2 miles apart. Both had the
same prices and both(wood) looked the same

3/4 4x8 oak ply & birch ply for 42.95
1/4 4x8 oak ply for 19.99

Wonder if the prices vary from different areas of the US?

"Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DCzkd.1811$De1.1179@trnddc08...
>I was at one of mine and they had some 8X4 sheets
> 3/4 thick of birch stacked as high as my head on the floor
> for $29.95. The good stuff too. Not the 5 layer junk they sell
> for $45, but the 12-13 layered stuff you see in all the woodworking
> mags.
>
> Joey
> "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just an fyi really. Going thru the local orange borg the other day
>> needed
>> some ply for the stuff I was doing and noticed on the far end some nice
>> plywood - closer inspection showed it was poplar veneered ply - $30 a
>> sheet.
>> A bit cheaper than the normal birch they carry and it stains better as
>> well.
>>
>> Just wanted to pass it along.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rob
>>
>> You can reply to me at
>> r_b_v at v_e_r_z_e_r_a doht c_o_m
>>
>> remove _ to get the correct address
>>
>>
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 7:34 AM

Probably made from the same Russian plys as the underlayment which is
assembled here in the US.

"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We have something similar. Home Depot is calling it
> "Classic Birch". It's a Chiwanese version of Baltic birch.
> It's not awful/makes good shoppe cabinets/furniture,
> especially considering it's nearly as cheap as MDF.
>
> Yes, I know, MDF is dollars cheaper than $30.
>
> UA100

BE

Brian Elfert

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

16/11/2004 2:16 PM

Ba r r y <[email protected]> writes:

>I didn't realize that stores had this much autonomy, but according to
>this guy, they do. I always thought that HD & Lowes ran more like a
>Wal-Mart, with everything coming from the mother ship. They don't.
>This also explains why an awful lot of stuff is missing from the web,
>as the web sites are considered stores in themselves, competing
>against their own brick and mortar brothers.

The Home Depot web site is certainly missing tons of stuff, but the I find
the Lowes site is very complete. They even list if the item is in stock
at your local store.

On the Lowes site, they ask for a zip code and won't display stuff that
can't be shipped if you are not near a store.

The Home Depot site is worthless. I want to be able to check out the
price on an item before I head to the store. Why in heck would anyone
order something from Home Depot and pay shipping when almost anyone in the
USA has access to a store? Home Depot has stores in almost every rural
city of any size here in Minnesota.

Brian Elfert

JS

"Joseph Smith"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 1:53 AM

I was at one of mine and they had some 8X4 sheets
3/4 thick of birch stacked as high as my head on the floor
for $29.95. The good stuff too. Not the 5 layer junk they sell
for $45, but the 12-13 layered stuff you see in all the woodworking
mags.

Joey
"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just an fyi really. Going thru the local orange borg the other day needed
> some ply for the stuff I was doing and noticed on the far end some nice
> plywood - closer inspection showed it was poplar veneered ply - $30 a
> sheet.
> A bit cheaper than the normal birch they carry and it stains better as
> well.
>
> Just wanted to pass it along.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> You can reply to me at
> r_b_v at v_e_r_z_e_r_a doht c_o_m
>
> remove _ to get the correct address
>
>

DW

"Dan White"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

17/11/2004 4:43 AM

"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> In my part of the country, Lowes bought out Eagle Hardware. It didn't
> take long for someone to figure out that "LOWES" was shorthand for "Less
> Of What Eagle Carried" :-).
>

LOWEC? Stocked, perhaps?

dwhite

Ss

"Stew"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

12/11/2004 1:53 AM

My nearest HD had something they called HomePly the other day. It had
multiple ply's and the outer ply looked like Okeume. Beautiful stuff for
$27.99 per 4x8 sheet.
Stew

"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just an fyi really. Going thru the local orange borg the other day needed
> some ply for the stuff I was doing and noticed on the far end some nice
> plywood - closer inspection showed it was poplar veneered ply - $30 a
sheet.
> A bit cheaper than the normal birch they carry and it stains better as
well.
>
> Just wanted to pass it along.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> You can reply to me at
> r_b_v at v_e_r_z_e_r_a doht c_o_m
>
> remove _ to get the correct address
>
>

JS

"Joseph Smith"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 5:14 AM

A little I'm sure. But the other ply I was talking about
@ $29.95 sheet is something my stores get in every
once in a blue moon. None of the lumber people
can explain why it comes in just once in a while and
why it even comes in at all.
"Woodchuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Was just at our locate lowes and HD which were 2 miles apart. Both had the
> same prices and both(wood) looked the same
>
> 3/4 4x8 oak ply & birch ply for 42.95
> 1/4 4x8 oak ply for 19.99
>
> Wonder if the prices vary from different areas of the US?
>
> "Joseph Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:DCzkd.1811$De1.1179@trnddc08...
>>I was at one of mine and they had some 8X4 sheets
>> 3/4 thick of birch stacked as high as my head on the floor
>> for $29.95. The good stuff too. Not the 5 layer junk they sell
>> for $45, but the 12-13 layered stuff you see in all the woodworking
>> mags.
>>
>> Joey
>> "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Just an fyi really. Going thru the local orange borg the other day
>>> needed
>>> some ply for the stuff I was doing and noticed on the far end some nice
>>> plywood - closer inspection showed it was poplar veneered ply - $30 a
>>> sheet.
>>> A bit cheaper than the normal birch they carry and it stains better as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Just wanted to pass it along.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> You can reply to me at
>>> r_b_v at v_e_r_z_e_r_a doht c_o_m
>>>
>>> remove _ to get the correct address
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 12:44 AM

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:51:02 GMT, "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Just an fyi really. Going thru the local orange borg the other day needed
>some ply for the stuff I was doing and noticed on the far end some nice
>plywood - closer inspection showed it was poplar veneered ply - $30 a sheet.
>A bit cheaper than the normal birch they carry and it stains better as well.
>
>Just wanted to pass it along.
>
>Thanks
>Rob
>
>You can reply to me at
>r_b_v at v_e_r_z_e_r_a doht c_o_m
>
>remove _ to get the correct address
>
what thickness was it? just curious, with the $30 price..

dd

[email protected] (dteckie)

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

18/11/2004 4:22 AM

Ba r r y <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:05:42 -0500, "Woodchuck"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >Wonder if the prices vary from different areas of the US?
>
> Not only do prices vary, but items stocked can vary from store to
> store.
>
> I recently sat next to a tile backer board and gypsum salesman on a
> plane. He explained to me that many BORG (blue & orange) store
> managers are empowered to make purchasing decisions for individual
> stores In some stores, even a department manager can do this! Some
> products, especially building materials can be chosen over others
> based on shipping costs, as the product cost may be identical between
> vendors.
>
> I didn't realize that stores had this much autonomy, but according to
> this guy, they do. I always thought that HD & Lowes ran more like a
> Wal-Mart, with everything coming from the mother ship. They don't.
> This also explains why an awful lot of stuff is missing from the web,
> as the web sites are considered stores in themselves, competing
> against their own brick and mortar brothers.
>
> His current crusade was to get store managers to order his backer
> board, as they already sell his sheetrock & mud, so they can go on the
> same truck and combine for shipping and volume discounts.
>
> The Middletown and Berlin, CT Home Depot stores are less than 5 miles
> from a large molding plant. Guess whose catalog comes out first at
> the Pro Desk? <G>
>
> Moral of the story? If you ask the store manager, not the guy in the
> aisle, you may actually see what you want in the store.
>
> Barry

You are correct that is why online when you search for product they
ask for zip code .

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 1:05 PM

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:05:42 -0500, "Woodchuck"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>Wonder if the prices vary from different areas of the US?

Not only do prices vary, but items stocked can vary from store to
store.

I recently sat next to a tile backer board and gypsum salesman on a
plane. He explained to me that many BORG (blue & orange) store
managers are empowered to make purchasing decisions for individual
stores In some stores, even a department manager can do this! Some
products, especially building materials can be chosen over others
based on shipping costs, as the product cost may be identical between
vendors.

I didn't realize that stores had this much autonomy, but according to
this guy, they do. I always thought that HD & Lowes ran more like a
Wal-Mart, with everything coming from the mother ship. They don't.
This also explains why an awful lot of stuff is missing from the web,
as the web sites are considered stores in themselves, competing
against their own brick and mortar brothers.

His current crusade was to get store managers to order his backer
board, as they already sell his sheetrock & mud, so they can go on the
same truck and combine for shipping and volume discounts.

The Middletown and Berlin, CT Home Depot stores are less than 5 miles
from a large molding plant. Guess whose catalog comes out first at
the Pro Desk? <G>

Moral of the story? If you ask the store manager, not the guy in the
aisle, you may actually see what you want in the store.

Barry

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Ba r r y on 11/11/2004 1:05 PM

11/11/2004 1:20 PM

Barry responds:

>Moral of the story? If you ask the store manager, not the guy in the
>aisle, you may actually see what you want in the store.
>

That moral works for any store, small or large, drugstore, office supply or
hardware store. It doesn't make sense to ask the guy in the aisle, unless you
know he owns a chunk of the action. Clerks have no power and often, too often
IMO, their suggestions are ignored.

Charlie Self
"It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of
common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever
ineligible for public office." H. L. Mencken

nn

in reply to Ba r r y on 11/11/2004 1:05 PM

11/11/2004 12:33 PM

I asked the grocery store Mgr about a product and got "If it's in the
warehouse we'll stock it".

On 11 Nov 2004 13:20:34 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Barry responds:
>
>>Moral of the story? If you ask the store manager, not the guy in the
>>aisle, you may actually see what you want in the store.
>>
>
>That moral works for any store, small or large, drugstore, office supply or
>hardware store. It doesn't make sense to ask the guy in the aisle, unless you
>know he owns a chunk of the action. Clerks have no power and often, too often
>IMO, their suggestions are ignored.
>
>Charlie Self
>"It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of
>common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever
>ineligible for public office." H. L. Mencken

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

16/11/2004 9:12 PM

On 16 Nov 2004 14:16:50 GMT, Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote:

>The Home Depot web site is certainly missing tons of stuff, but the I find
>the Lowes site is very complete.

Check out building materials, doors, windows, plumbing, electrical,
etc... there's an awful lot missing from Lowes.com, as well.

>On the Lowes site, they ask for a zip code and won't display stuff that
>can't be shipped if you are not near a store.

Exactly. It would often be nice to be able to check specs or prices,
regardless of shippability.

>The Home Depot site is worthless. I want to be able to check out the
>price on an item before I head to the store.

I agree, HD's is really a joke but Lowe's isn't that much better for
stuff I've looked for.

Both sites only seem to carry shippable items with chain-wide
availably.

Barry

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Ba r r y on 16/11/2004 9:12 PM

17/11/2004 12:38 AM

Barry notes:

>>The Home Depot web site is certainly missing tons of stuff, but the I find
>>the Lowes site is very complete.
>
>Check out building materials, doors, windows, plumbing, electrical,
>etc... there's an awful lot missing from Lowes.com, as well.
>
>>On the Lowes site, they ask for a zip code and won't display stuff that
>>can't be shipped if you are not near a store.
>
>Exactly. It would often be nice to be able to check specs or prices,
>regardless of shippability.

Yup. And availability, without shipping. I've got to drive 30 miles in one
direction to hit one Lowe's or reverse and go 35 in the other to hit Lowe's and
HD. Either way, I have to go there and look to see if they have what I need,
which is OK if they've got it, but a real PITA if they don't.

Charlie Self
"Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of
nothing."
Redd Foxx

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 10:21 AM

We have something similar. Home Depot is calling it
"Classic Birch". It's a Chiwanese version of Baltic birch.
It's not awful/makes good shoppe cabinets/furniture,
especially considering it's nearly as cheap as MDF.

Yes, I know, MDF is dollars cheaper than $30.

UA100

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

11/11/2004 6:01 PM


"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> We have something similar. Home Depot is calling it
> "Classic Birch". It's a Chiwanese version of Baltic birch.


If you cut it open, and look inside, is there a ......
....naah too easy.

Rg

RKG

in reply to "Rob V" on 10/11/2004 11:51 PM

16/11/2004 5:42 PM

Ba r r y wrote:
> On 16 Nov 2004 14:16:50 GMT, Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>The Home Depot web site is certainly missing tons of stuff, but the I find
>>the Lowes site is very complete.
>
>
> Check out building materials, doors, windows, plumbing, electrical,
> etc... there's an awful lot missing from Lowes.com, as well.
>
>
>>On the Lowes site, they ask for a zip code and won't display stuff that
>>can't be shipped if you are not near a store.
>
>
> Exactly. It would often be nice to be able to check specs or prices,
> regardless of shippability.
>
>
>>The Home Depot site is worthless. I want to be able to check out the
>>price on an item before I head to the store.
>
>
> I agree, HD's is really a joke but Lowe's isn't that much better for
> stuff I've looked for.
>
> Both sites only seem to carry shippable items with chain-wide
> availably.
>
> Barry

Check with HD and see if the catalog CD is still available got mine a
little over a year ago and update the prices etc. every time I use it.
It sure helps me determine when to buy local or drive for an hour into
London to pick the stuff up at the nearest HD. Of course you definitely
combine that trip with some other stuff.

Rick


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