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[email protected] (English Teacher)

20/10/2003 11:51 PM

ORACLE or SQL SERVER (MS) ?

Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?

Thanks!


This topic has 9 replies

hH

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

21/10/2003 7:23 PM

"John Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi
>
> The choice of which database system to learn will to some extent be
> determined on why you wish to learn it. In general there is a lot of
> relational theory that is universal and writing good SQL and doing correct
> design is not linked to the vendor of the database system. There will be
> system specific features that will improve performance on a given RDBMS, but
> the knowledge of how proprietary this is is important.
>
> In general I think that SQL Server is the better system regarding ease of
> setup and the hardware required to run the system and would therefore have

Actually when it comes to lowend hardware, Oracle and MSSQL are
more of an even heat. Both can be deployed on meagre hardware if your
thruput requirements are similarly meagre.
However, Oracle will probably scale much better should your needs
be more than trivial. Oracle runs on machines with as many as 105
cpus, Oracle has more transparent clustering, and MSSQL doesn't
support table/index partitioning.
Storage and memory requirements will be similar for both
products. You won't be able to get away with skimping on the disk
hardware just because it's a Microsoft database. OTOH, Oracle can run
on the same Dell/Compaq hardware that msSQL uses. Just run Linux
rather than Solaris.

> the edge, but if you are looking for multiplatform capabilities then Sybase,
> DB2 or Oracle may be alternatives to consider.
[deletia]

BP

Brian Peasland

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

22/10/2003 9:04 PM

Someone who lurks around, popping their head up occasionally, only to
cause trouble.

Cheers,
Brian

Robert C wrote:
>
> what's a troll in this context ?
>
> "Noons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
> > > nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?
> >
> >
> > This poster is a well known troll. Reply at your own risk.

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JB

"John Bell"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

21/10/2003 10:25 AM

Hi

The choice of which database system to learn will to some extent be
determined on why you wish to learn it. In general there is a lot of
relational theory that is universal and writing good SQL and doing correct
design is not linked to the vendor of the database system. There will be
system specific features that will improve performance on a given RDBMS, but
the knowledge of how proprietary this is is important.

In general I think that SQL Server is the better system regarding ease of
setup and the hardware required to run the system and would therefore have
the edge, but if you are looking for multiplatform capabilities then Sybase,
DB2 or Oracle may be alternatives to consider.

John


"English Teacher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
> nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?
>
> Thanks!

wN

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

21/10/2003 2:31 PM

[email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
> nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?


This poster is a well known troll. Reply at your own risk.

SM

"Skip Middleton"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

22/10/2003 1:52 PM

Multiple cross posts to unrelated newsgroups. Of which, of course, I am now
guilty, since I don't know which grp. to direct my reply.

--
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"Robert C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> what's a troll in this context ?
>
>
> "Noons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
> > > nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?
> >
> >
> > This poster is a well known troll. Reply at your own risk.
>
>

Fe

"Frank ess"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

21/10/2003 10:11 PM


"Noons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
> > nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?
>
>
> This poster is a well known troll. Reply at your own risk.

shhh

RC

"Robert C"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

22/10/2003 4:35 PM

what's a troll in this context ?


"Noons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
> > nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?
>
>
> This poster is a well known troll. Reply at your own risk.

RC

"Robert C"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

23/10/2003 4:33 PM

Don't get it...
Cause what trouble ?
What fun/satisfaction does the troll get ?
Most of time people do things for a reason....


"Brian Peasland"
> Someone who lurks around, popping their head up occasionally, only to
> cause trouble.
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
>
> Robert C wrote:
> >
> > what's a troll in this context ?
> >
> > "Noons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > [email protected] (English Teacher) wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > Which would be a more useful relational database server to learn
> > > > nowadays: MS SQL SERVER or ORACLE?
> > >
> > >
> > > This poster is a well known troll. Reply at your own risk.
>
> --
> ===================================================================
>
> Brian Peasland
> dba@remove_spam.peasland.com
>
> Remove the "remove_spam." from the email address to email me.
>
>
> "I can give it to you cheap, quick, and good. Now pick two out of
> the three"

Fe

"Frank ess"

in reply to [email protected] (English Teacher) on 20/10/2003 11:51 PM

22/10/2003 3:14 AM


"Hulse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "John Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Hi
> >
> > The choice of which database system to learn will to some extent be
> > determined on why you wish to learn it. In general there is a lot of
> > relational theory that is universal and writing good SQL and doing
correct
> > design is not linked to the vendor of the database system. There will be
> > system specific features that will improve performance on a given RDBMS,
but
> > the knowledge of how proprietary this is is important.
> >
> > In general I think that SQL Server is the better system regarding ease
of
> > setup and the hardware required to run the system and would therefore
have
>
> Actually when it comes to lowend hardware, Oracle and MSSQL are
> more of an even heat. Both can be deployed on meagre hardware if your
> thruput requirements are similarly meagre.
> However, Oracle will probably scale much better should your needs
> be more than trivial. Oracle runs on machines with as many as 105
> cpus, Oracle has more transparent clustering, and MSSQL doesn't
> support table/index partitioning.
> Storage and memory requirements will be similar for both
> products. You won't be able to get away with skimping on the disk
> hardware just because it's a Microsoft database. OTOH, Oracle can run
> on the same Dell/Compaq hardware that msSQL uses. Just run Linux
> rather than Solaris.
>
> > the edge, but if you are looking for multiplatform capabilities then
Sybase,
> > DB2 or Oracle may be alternatives to consider.
> [deletia]

shhh


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