Fastening suggestions

On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:59:02 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 5/31/2019 10:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:14:27 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>>>>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
>>>>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>>>>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
>>>>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>>>>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>>>>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
>>>>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>>>> Hinges with removeable pins?
>>>>
>>> Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
>>> pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
>>> allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
>>> hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks
>>>
>>
>>
>> Lee Valley has various knock-down panel fasteners ;
>> or bed-locks .... but I'd be tempted to buy some cheap hinges
>> or old heavy ones from The Re-Store. Make up a pull-ring for
>> removing the pins easily ?
>> John T.
>>
>
>Large hinges from Restore as John suggests. Knock out pins and replace
>with appropriate sized bolt. 1/4-20 would likely work.
Or a spike - -

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 9:56:01 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2019 20:04:47 -0400, Clare Snyder <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:59:02 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On 5/31/2019 10:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:14:27 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
> >>>>>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
> >>>>>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
> >>>>>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
> >>>>>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
> >>>>>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
> >>>>>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
> >>>>>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
> >>>>> Hinges with removeable pins?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
> >>>> pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
> >>>> allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
> >>>> hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lee Valley has various knock-down panel fasteners ;
> >>> or bed-locks .... but I'd be tempted to buy some cheap hinges
> >>> or old heavy ones from The Re-Store. Make up a pull-ring for
> >>> removing the pins easily ?
> >>> John T.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Large hinges from Restore as John suggests. Knock out pins and replace
> >>with appropriate sized bolt. 1/4-20 would likely work.
> > Or a spike - -
>
>
> Some dowels or dominos or a tounge and groov and put a couple of
> ratchet cargo straps around it to hold it all together. If you want
> to get fancy put some cleats to keep the straps in position.

I'm still not seeing the OP's posts, so I'll toss this in here...

Why use fasteners at all? How about halved joints, cut at an angle?

Heck, even a X centered in the trailer would work. 2 boards, 1 halved joint, done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halved_joint

On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:14:27 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
>>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
>>>
>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>>>
>>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
>>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
>>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>> Hinges with removeable pins?
>>
>Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
>pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
>allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
>hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks
>


Lee Valley has various knock-down panel fasteners ;
or bed-locks .... but I'd be tempted to buy some cheap hinges
or old heavy ones from The Re-Store. Make up a pull-ring for
removing the pins easily ?
John T.

On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
>this idea which I like and plan to use.
>
>https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>
>I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
>each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
>in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>
>Thanks for any and all suggestions.
Hinges with removeable pins?

On 5/31/2019 10:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:14:27 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>>>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
>>>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
>>>>
>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>>>>
>>>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>>>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
>>>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>>>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>>>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
>>>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>>> Hinges with removeable pins?
>>>
>> Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
>> pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
>> allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
>> hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks
>>
>
>
> Lee Valley has various knock-down panel fasteners ;
> or bed-locks .... but I'd be tempted to buy some cheap hinges
> or old heavy ones from The Re-Store. Make up a pull-ring for
> removing the pins easily ?
> John T.
>

Large hinges from Restore as John suggests. Knock out pins and replace
with appropriate sized bolt. 1/4-20 would likely work.

On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 12:40:38 AM UTC-4, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
> >hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
> >this idea which I like and plan to use.
> >
> >https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
> >
> >I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
> >boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
> >each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
> >boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
> >connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
> >in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
> >
> >Thanks for any and all suggestions.
> Hinges with removeable pins?

That's strange...I don't see the original post, just your response.

In any case, I built a knockdown platform bed for a college student using that basic design
(four 2x12's as the base) and the removable pin hinge technique. With the platform cut into
2 sheets, he put the whole thing in his car and off to school he went.

It was full size to start, then cut down to twin for a friend's kid for a while and then I gave
it away on Craigslist to a young couple that said it would make a perfect "daybed" for their
porch.

A simple build that's seen a lot of use over a 20+ year period.

On Fri, 31 May 2019 20:04:47 -0400, Clare Snyder <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:59:02 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 5/31/2019 10:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:14:27 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>>>>>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
>>>>>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>>>>>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
>>>>>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>>>>>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>>>>>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
>>>>>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>>>>> Hinges with removeable pins?
>>>>>
>>>> Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
>>>> pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
>>>> allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
>>>> hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lee Valley has various knock-down panel fasteners ;
>>> or bed-locks .... but I'd be tempted to buy some cheap hinges
>>> or old heavy ones from The Re-Store. Make up a pull-ring for
>>> removing the pins easily ?
>>> John T.
>>>
>>
>>Large hinges from Restore as John suggests. Knock out pins and replace
>>with appropriate sized bolt. 1/4-20 would likely work.
> Or a spike - -


Some dowels or dominos or a tounge and groov and put a couple of
ratchet cargo straps around it to hold it all together. If you want
to get fancy put some cleats to keep the straps in position.

On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
>>
>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>>
>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
> Hinges with removeable pins?
>
Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks

On 5/31/2019 11:59 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> On 5/31/2019 10:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:14:27 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>>>>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came
>>>>> across
>>>>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>>>>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8'
>>>>> board on
>>>>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>>>>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>>>>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other
>>>>> while
>>>>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>>>>    Hinges with removeable pins?
>>>>
>>> Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
>>> pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
>>> allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
>>> hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks
>>>
>>
>>
>> Lee Valley  has various knock-down panel fasteners ;
>> or bed-locks  ....   but  I'd be tempted to buy some cheap hinges
>> or old heavy ones from The Re-Store.  Make up a pull-ring for
>> removing the pins easily ?
>>     John T.
>>
>
> Large hinges from Restore as John suggests.  Knock out pins and replace
> with appropriate sized bolt.  1/4-20 would likely work.

Good ideas. Thank you, gents.

On 5/31/2019 11:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 9:56:01 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 20:04:47 -0400, Clare Snyder <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 10:59:02 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/31/2019 10:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 11:14:27 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/31/2019 12:40 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:03 -0400, Meanie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the small 40" x 48" Harbor Freight trailer which I will use for
>>>>>>>> hauling 4 x 8 sheets of material (Plywood, drywall, etc.) I came across
>>>>>>>> this idea which I like and plan to use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://s3.amazonaws.com/vs-lumberjocks.com/lt2m46v.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't plan to follow the exact design and just using 1" x 4" treated
>>>>>>>> boards which I want to be removable. The layout will be one 8' board on
>>>>>>>> each side, an 8' diagonal board in the middle and I will add cross
>>>>>>>> boards at front and back. I'm searching for suggestions on quick
>>>>>>>> connect/disconnect fasteners to connect the boards with each other while
>>>>>>>> in use, then quickly disassemble when complete.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>>>>>>> Hinges with removeable pins?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thought about that but don't want the hassle of having to punch out a
>>>>>> pin each time, though, I could grind down the pin for a looser fit to
>>>>>> allow easy insert and removal by hand. I also thought about the lift off
>>>>>> hinges. I'll consider both. Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee Valley has various knock-down panel fasteners ;
>>>>> or bed-locks .... but I'd be tempted to buy some cheap hinges
>>>>> or old heavy ones from The Re-Store. Make up a pull-ring for
>>>>> removing the pins easily ?
>>>>> John T.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Large hinges from Restore as John suggests. Knock out pins and replace
>>>> with appropriate sized bolt. 1/4-20 would likely work.
>>> Or a spike - -
>>
>>
>> Some dowels or dominos or a tounge and groov and put a couple of
>> ratchet cargo straps around it to hold it all together. If you want
>> to get fancy put some cleats to keep the straps in position.
>
> I'm still not seeing the OP's posts, so I'll toss this in here...
>
> Why use fasteners at all? How about halved joints, cut at an angle?
>
> Heck, even a X centered in the trailer would work. 2 boards, 1 halved joint, done.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halved_joint
>

I like this idea as it allows for simple assembly and disassembly.
Though, I did hinge and the side boards with the end boards but I half
jointed the cross center board. I will be adding another to make an X in
the middle. I think I'll also half joint the end boards also and remove
the hinges.