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I did a sample packing on the shop floor. Not the best results
(rushed job!), but they may show something of worth. No sealant was
applied, for a completely finished result.... just the raw packing.
The rope/twine could have been twisted a little tighter, before
installing. No adhesive or nailing/tacking was installed, as these
small samples are packed pretty tight enough.
My brother's exgirlfriend sold her house, so access to that floor
isn't available (at the moment), if it was ever fixed. I'll inquire,
further.
Additionally, I spoke to an oldtimer, still in business, who said
packing floor gaps with jute, or similar, is rarely done anymore. He
recalled packing floor gaps with plumbers waxed cording, the stuff
plumbers used on cast iron piping. I remarked, that sounded similar
to what was used to pack boat shaft boxing, long ago. He said it was
the same stuff. He didn't recall the name of that packing and I don't
know, either. As for as using a waxed cording, long ago, I'm sure
floor finishing/refinishing techniques, if any in some of those cases,
were different than now, allowing for the waxed cording in some cases.
Sonny
On Tue, 10 May 2011 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT), Sonny wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?saved=1
>
> I did a sample packing on the shop floor. Not the best results
> (rushed job!), but they may show something of worth. No sealant was
> applied, for a completely finished result.... just the raw packing.
> The rope/twine could have been twisted a little tighter, before
> installing. No adhesive or nailing/tacking was installed, as these
> small samples are packed pretty tight enough.
>
> My brother's exgirlfriend sold her house, so access to that floor
> isn't available (at the moment), if it was ever fixed. I'll inquire,
> further.
>
> Additionally, I spoke to an oldtimer, still in business, who said
> packing floor gaps with jute, or similar, is rarely done anymore. He
> recalled packing floor gaps with plumbers waxed cording, the stuff
> plumbers used on cast iron piping. I remarked, that sounded similar
> to what was used to pack boat shaft boxing, long ago. He said it was
> the same stuff. He didn't recall the name of that packing and I don't
> know, either.
snip
Oakum
basilisk
On May 10, 3:31=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > These days stuffing box packing is flax impregnated with teflon.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> "RicodJour" =A0wrote:
>
> Do you notice a noticeable improvement in the seal with the newer
> stuff?
>
> --------------------------
> Repacking stuffing box was straight forward.
Probably similar in the packing job itself, but it seems to me that
wax would move more and fill in gaps better when it heated up and
flowed a bit. Then again, maybe the exact opposite. Just wondering
if new is better than old or just new.
R
Sonny wrote:
> I remarked, that sounded similar
> to what was used to pack boat shaft boxing, long ago. He said it
> was
> the same stuff. He didn't recall the name of that packing and I
> don't
> know, either.
-------------------------------
These days stuffing box packing is flax impregnated with teflon.
Lew
Sonny wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?saved=1
>
> I did a sample packing on the shop floor. Not the best results
> (rushed job!), but they may show something of worth. No sealant was
> applied, for a completely finished result.... just the raw packing.
> The rope/twine could have been twisted a little tighter, before
> installing.
Or looser and a caulking iron used.
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On Tue, 10 May 2011 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?saved=1
>
>I did a sample packing on the shop floor. Not the best results
>(rushed job!), but they may show something of worth. No sealant was
>applied, for a completely finished result.... just the raw packing.
>The rope/twine could have been twisted a little tighter, before
>installing. No adhesive or nailing/tacking was installed, as these
>small samples are packed pretty tight enough.
>
>My brother's exgirlfriend sold her house, so access to that floor
>isn't available (at the moment), if it was ever fixed. I'll inquire,
>further.
>
>Additionally, I spoke to an oldtimer, still in business, who said
>packing floor gaps with jute, or similar, is rarely done anymore. He
>recalled packing floor gaps with plumbers waxed cording, the stuff
>plumbers used on cast iron piping. I remarked, that sounded similar
>to what was used to pack boat shaft boxing, long ago. He said it was
>the same stuff. He didn't recall the name of that packing and I don't
>know, either. As for as using a waxed cording, long ago, I'm sure
>floor finishing/refinishing techniques, if any in some of those cases,
>were different than now, allowing for the waxed cording in some cases.
>
>Sonny
Would the word you are looking for be, by chance, OAKUM???
On 5/11/2011 10:27 AM, Sonny wrote:
>> what's the purpose of packing these cracks?
>> Steve Barker
>
> Long ago, floors may not have had a subflooring and gaps between floor
> boards allowed air to pass. In winters, this may not have been good.
> Gaps also allowed dust to enter the homes, to name a few reasons for
> packing gaps.
>
> These more recent days, it's more for looks, but there are good
> reasons, otherwise. An unsightly gap or blemish, in any floor, is not
> always wanted. A "defect" in a brick floor would be unsightly. In
> plank or general wood floors, even with a subfloor below, dust can
> collect in wider than normal gaps. A floor with gaps allows the
> cleaning fluid, moisture, etc. to seep into the gap.... not to mention
> if a pet urinates on the floor, whereas long ago seldom were pets
> indoors.
>
> Plugging/filling these kinds of gaps is similar to filling nail holes
> or filling behind a countersunk nail, also, i.e., filling a hole....
> as long as the filler is flexible with expansion& contraction of the
> floor.
>
> If a reasonable color match, filler vs flooring, can be achieved
> relatively inexpensively, all the better.
>
> Most floors, today, are installed with fewer gaps. Older floors (and
> today's floors, where the installer is not so precise) sometimes need
> a touchup.
>
> Sonny
Thanks for the reply.
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On 5/10/2011 9:20 AM, Sonny wrote:
> Additionally, I spoke to an oldtimer, still in business, who said
> packing floor gaps with jute, or similar, is rarely done anymore. He
> recalled packing floor gaps with plumbers waxed cording, the stuff
> plumbers used on cast iron piping. I remarked, that sounded similar
> to what was used to pack boat shaft boxing, long ago. He said it was
> the same stuff. He didn't recall the name of that packing and I don't
> know, either.
Probably the same as the oakum we used to pack horses feet when shoeing
them with pads.
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On May 10, 2:23=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sonny wrote:
>
> > I remarked, that sounded similar
> > to what was used to pack boat shaft boxing, long ago. =A0He said it
> > was
> > the same stuff. =A0He didn't recall the name of that packing and I
> > don't
> > know, either.
>
> -------------------------------
> These days stuffing box packing is flax impregnated with teflon.
Do you notice a noticeable improvement in the seal with the newer
stuff?
R
> what's the purpose of packing these cracks?
> Steve Barker
Long ago, floors may not have had a subflooring and gaps between floor
boards allowed air to pass. In winters, this may not have been good.
Gaps also allowed dust to enter the homes, to name a few reasons for
packing gaps.
These more recent days, it's more for looks, but there are good
reasons, otherwise. An unsightly gap or blemish, in any floor, is not
always wanted. A "defect" in a brick floor would be unsightly. In
plank or general wood floors, even with a subfloor below, dust can
collect in wider than normal gaps. A floor with gaps allows the
cleaning fluid, moisture, etc. to seep into the gap.... not to mention
if a pet urinates on the floor, whereas long ago seldom were pets
indoors.
Plugging/filling these kinds of gaps is similar to filling nail holes
or filling behind a countersunk nail, also, i.e., filling a hole....
as long as the filler is flexible with expansion & contraction of the
floor.
If a reasonable color match, filler vs flooring, can be achieved
relatively inexpensively, all the better.
Most floors, today, are installed with fewer gaps. Older floors (and
today's floors, where the installer is not so precise) sometimes need
a touchup.
Sonny
On 5/10/2011 9:20 AM, Sonny wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?saved=1
>
> I did a sample packing on the shop floor. Not the best results
> (rushed job!), but they may show something of worth. No sealant was
> applied, for a completely finished result.... just the raw packing.
> The rope/twine could have been twisted a little tighter, before
> installing. No adhesive or nailing/tacking was installed, as these
> small samples are packed pretty tight enough.
>
> My brother's exgirlfriend sold her house, so access to that floor
> isn't available (at the moment), if it was ever fixed. I'll inquire,
> further.
>
> Additionally, I spoke to an oldtimer, still in business, who said
> packing floor gaps with jute, or similar, is rarely done anymore. He
> recalled packing floor gaps with plumbers waxed cording, the stuff
> plumbers used on cast iron piping. I remarked, that sounded similar
> to what was used to pack boat shaft boxing, long ago. He said it was
> the same stuff. He didn't recall the name of that packing and I don't
> know, either. As for as using a waxed cording, long ago, I'm sure
> floor finishing/refinishing techniques, if any in some of those cases,
> were different than now, allowing for the waxed cording in some cases.
>
> Sonny
what's the purpose of packing these cracks?
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