On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:42:37 GMT, [email protected] (Dan
Valleskey) wrote:
>I know I've seen it posted here- but I can not find it with Google.
>How do I know what plug configuration is for what purpose?
>
>I helped set up a band saw this afternoon, the flat blade was on the
>(wrong?) side. I think. It did not fit our 220 recepticle anway.
>
>Can anyone advise?
The plug design must match the receptacle design. Its not just a
matter of matching voltage.
If the plug does't plug into the receptacle, it just DOESN'T. Go to
your local hardware, tell them what you want to do...and have them
sell you a matching plug and receptacle.
Good luck.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:16:22 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>>I know I've seen it posted here- but I can not find it with Google.
>>How do I know what plug configuration is for what purpose?
>>
>>I helped set up a band saw this afternoon, the flat blade was on the
>>(wrong?) side. I think. It did not fit our 220 recepticle anway.
>>
>>Can anyone advise?
>>
>You probably have a 120V 20A plug and a 220V 20A receptacle, or the other way
>around. MAKE SURE you know what you're dealing with before you change
>anything! For safety reasons, the receptacle *must* match the voltage and
>amperage of the circuit supplying it.
That is absolutely not true. You can use a 15A. plug in a 20A.
receptacle.
>And to avoid frying the bandsaw, the
>motor voltage must match the receptacle voltage. From your description, I'm
>_guessing_ you have a 120V plug and a 220V receptacle, not the other way
>around. DON'T put a 220V plug on the cord until you verify that the motor is
>actually wired for 220.
Maybe he has a 20A. plug and a 15A. receptacle.
>Following are ASCII-art representations of what various receptacles and plugs
>look like. Best viewed in monospaced font such as Courier. Shown with ground
>on *top* just like it's shown in a NEMA configuration chart. Sorry, I don't
>have an online source for this, just a page in a printed catalog.
They have it wrong, though. Ground goes on the bottom! lol
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:47:57 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Trent© <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:16:22 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>I know I've seen it posted here- but I can not find it with Google.
>>>>How do I know what plug configuration is for what purpose?
>>>>
>>>>I helped set up a band saw this afternoon, the flat blade was on the
>>>>(wrong?) side. I think. It did not fit our 220 recepticle anway.
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone advise?
>>>>
>>>You probably have a 120V 20A plug and a 220V 20A receptacle, or the other way
>>>around. MAKE SURE you know what you're dealing with before you change
>>>anything! For safety reasons, the receptacle *must* match the voltage and
>>>amperage of the circuit supplying it.
>>
>>That is absolutely not true. You can use a 15A. plug in a 20A.
>>receptacle.
>
>Read what I wrote, idiot. I didn't say anything about matching the plug to the
>receptacle.
You said...
>>>the receptacle *must* match the voltage and amperage of the circuit supplying it.
And I said that's not true...and its NOT, idiot.
The ampere rating of the receptacle does not need to exactly match the
ampere rating of the circuit. My example above was yet ANOTHER
example.
Go check your kitchen wiring and receptacles. Not guaranteed, but you
may see what I'm talking about there...or at least somewhere in your
home.
> (How'd you get out of the killfile? I'd better look into that...)
RIGHT!!! ROTFLMAO !!!
GOTCHA!!!!
>>>Following are ASCII-art representations of what various receptacles and plugs
>>>look like. Best viewed in monospaced font such as Courier. Shown with ground
>>>on *top* just like it's shown in a NEMA configuration chart. Sorry, I don't
>>>have an online source for this, just a page in a printed catalog.
>>
>>They have it wrong, though. Ground goes on the bottom! lol
>
>You really don't have a clue,
What's this 'clue' you keep talking about? Hmmmmmmm.
>do you? NEMA = National Electrical
>Manufacturer's Association. They're wrong, and you're right. Yeah, sure.
>>
>>Have a nice week...
>
>It'll be a lot nicer once I figure out why I'm seeing your posts again.
You are just TOO funny. No backbone...no integrity...and now no way
to back out! lol
BTW...are receptacles allowed to be installed so the ground isn't at
the bottom OR the top? lol
Now...don't ANSWER this...or you'll look like a 2-faced jerk again.
Or maybe you haven't fixed your filter yet...and you'll be able to
read THIS one, too!
ROTFLMAO !!!
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:30:12 GMT, "Wade Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Can't you ladies do this by email and spare the rest of us?
>
BTW, Wade...
I don't pull this shit with anyone else. I try to help when I
can...or at least contribute sometime. And I lurk a lot more than I
post.
But Dougie followed me over to other groups...where he's seen my
posts. And he brought over stuff from THIS group.
To me, that kind of behavior is demented. At the very least, its
definitely troll behavior.
He'll reply again to one of my post. He's GOT to...that's just him.
His kill filter didn't falter at all. HE did!
To everyone else...
Be careful of any personal information you divulge to Dougie.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:30:12 GMT, "Wade Lippman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Can't you ladies do this by email and spare the rest of us?
>
I can't even understand why this is goin' on, Wade. I made it to
Dougie's kill file.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>I know I've seen it posted here- but I can not find it with Google.
>How do I know what plug configuration is for what purpose?
>
>I helped set up a band saw this afternoon, the flat blade was on the
>(wrong?) side. I think. It did not fit our 220 recepticle anway.
>
>Can anyone advise?
>
You probably have a 120V 20A plug and a 220V 20A receptacle, or the other way
around. MAKE SURE you know what you're dealing with before you change
anything! For safety reasons, the receptacle *must* match the voltage and
amperage of the circuit supplying it. And to avoid frying the bandsaw, the
motor voltage must match the receptacle voltage. From your description, I'm
_guessing_ you have a 120V plug and a 220V receptacle, not the other way
around. DON'T put a 220V plug on the cord until you verify that the motor is
actually wired for 220.
Following are ASCII-art representations of what various receptacles and plugs
look like. Best viewed in monospaced font such as Courier. Shown with ground
on *top* just like it's shown in a NEMA configuration chart. Sorry, I don't
have an online source for this, just a page in a printed catalog.
120V 20A receptacle
O
| |-
120V 20A plug
O
-- |
240V 15A recep. and plug are the same
O
-- --
240V 20A recep.
O
-- |-
240V 20A plug
O
| --
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:28:10 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, "Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote [nothing worth reading, as usual]
>>>
>>Can't you ladies do this by email and spare the rest of us?
>
>Sorry, Wade, won't happen again. He's back in the killfile where he belongs.
Before you go...
Are you gonna retract your erroneous post about those receptacles? Or
are you gonna let the OP go on with false information?
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:57:30 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>>If the plug does't plug into the receptacle, it just DOESN'T. Go to
>>your local hardware, tell them what you want to do...and have them
>>sell you a matching plug and receptacle.
>>
>Following this idiotic advice blindly could be very dangerous.
What part of...
>>tell them what you want to do
didn't you understand?
>This suggestion completely ignores the issues of matching the voltage of the
>tool and the ratings of the plug and receptacle to the voltage and amperage of
>the circuit. It's certainly *possible* to put a 120V 15A receptacle on a 240V
>20A circuit, and a 120V 15A plug on the cord for a 120V 20A tool, and plug the
>tool into the receptacle. But it's stupid and dangerous to do that.
Let me know if you can read this, Dougie. If you can, I'll write back
and try to explain some wiring theory to you.
BTW...should the ground tab be to the LEFT?...or to the RIGHT?
ROTFLMAO !!!
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
Recently read the ground on top was meant to avoid shorting if plug
was partially pulled out and something fell on it.
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:18:43 -0500, Trent© <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>Following are ASCII-art representations of what various receptacles and plugs
>>look like. Best viewed in monospaced font such as Courier. Shown with ground
>>on *top* just like it's shown in a NEMA configuration chart. Sorry, I don't
>>have an online source for this, just a page in a printed catalog.
"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:57:30 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>
> >>If the plug does't plug into the receptacle, it just DOESN'T. Go to
> >>your local hardware, tell them what you want to do...and have them
> >>sell you a matching plug and receptacle.
> >>
> >Following this idiotic advice blindly could be very dangerous.
>
> What part of...
>
> >>tell them what you want to do
>
> didn't you understand?
>
> >This suggestion completely ignores the issues of matching the voltage of
the
> >tool and the ratings of the plug and receptacle to the voltage and
amperage of
> >the circuit. It's certainly *possible* to put a 120V 15A receptacle on a
240V
> >20A circuit, and a 120V 15A plug on the cord for a 120V 20A tool, and
plug the
> >tool into the receptacle. But it's stupid and dangerous to do that.
>
> Let me know if you can read this, Dougie. If you can, I'll write back
> and try to explain some wiring theory to you.
>
> BTW...should the ground tab be to the LEFT?...or to the RIGHT?
>
> ROTFLMAO !!!
>
Can't you ladies do this by email and spare the rest of us?
In article <[email protected]>, "Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote [nothing worth reading, as usual]
>>
>Can't you ladies do this by email and spare the rest of us?
Sorry, Wade, won't happen again. He's back in the killfile where he belongs.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
In article <[email protected]>, Trent© <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:42:37 GMT, [email protected] (Dan
>Valleskey) wrote:
>
>>I know I've seen it posted here- but I can not find it with Google.
>>How do I know what plug configuration is for what purpose?
>>
>>I helped set up a band saw this afternoon, the flat blade was on the
>>(wrong?) side. I think. It did not fit our 220 recepticle anway.
>>
>>Can anyone advise?
>
>The plug design must match the receptacle design. Its not just a
>matter of matching voltage.
>
>If the plug does't plug into the receptacle, it just DOESN'T. Go to
>your local hardware, tell them what you want to do...and have them
>sell you a matching plug and receptacle.
>
Following this idiotic advice blindly could be very dangerous.
This suggestion completely ignores the issues of matching the voltage of the
tool and the ratings of the plug and receptacle to the voltage and amperage of
the circuit. It's certainly *possible* to put a 120V 15A receptacle on a 240V
20A circuit, and a 120V 15A plug on the cord for a 120V 20A tool, and plug the
tool into the receptacle. But it's stupid and dangerous to do that.
It is NOT enough to simply go to the hardware store and get matching parts.
You have to get the CORRECT matching parts, and this means matching the
voltage and amperage ratings of the tool, the receptacle, and the plug to the
voltage and amperage of the circuit.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
In article <[email protected]>, Trent© <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:16:22 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>>>I know I've seen it posted here- but I can not find it with Google.
>>>How do I know what plug configuration is for what purpose?
>>>
>>>I helped set up a band saw this afternoon, the flat blade was on the
>>>(wrong?) side. I think. It did not fit our 220 recepticle anway.
>>>
>>>Can anyone advise?
>>>
>>You probably have a 120V 20A plug and a 220V 20A receptacle, or the other way
>>around. MAKE SURE you know what you're dealing with before you change
>>anything! For safety reasons, the receptacle *must* match the voltage and
>>amperage of the circuit supplying it.
>
>That is absolutely not true. You can use a 15A. plug in a 20A.
>receptacle.
Read what I wrote, idiot. I didn't say anything about matching the plug to the
receptacle. (How'd you get out of the killfile? I'd better look into that...)
>
>>And to avoid frying the bandsaw, the
>>motor voltage must match the receptacle voltage. From your description, I'm
>>_guessing_ you have a 120V plug and a 220V receptacle, not the other way
>>around. DON'T put a 220V plug on the cord until you verify that the motor is
>>actually wired for 220.
>
>Maybe he has a 20A. plug and a 15A. receptacle.
Do you have any idea what the different receptacles look like? Did you even
read the original post? "The flat blade was on the wrong side" CAN'T describe
that situation: a 120V 15A receptacle has two vertical blades, and a 240V 15A
receptacle has two horizontal blades. His description makes it very clear that
the plug and receptacle are both 20A, but one is 120V and the other is 240V.
>
>>Following are ASCII-art representations of what various receptacles and plugs
>>look like. Best viewed in monospaced font such as Courier. Shown with ground
>>on *top* just like it's shown in a NEMA configuration chart. Sorry, I don't
>>have an online source for this, just a page in a printed catalog.
>
>They have it wrong, though. Ground goes on the bottom! lol
You really don't have a clue, do you? NEMA = National Electrical
Manufacturer's Association. They're wrong, and you're right. Yeah, sure.
>
>Have a nice week...
It'll be a lot nicer once I figure out why I'm seeing your posts again.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?