I can hand cut most woods with a rip saw and curves with a coping saw, but I
can't drill truly square holes with a hand drill and sure as hell don't like
drilling any form of steel with one. Drill press was the FIRST workshop
tool I ever bought. That said only you know what your needs are...
Bernard R
"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
> the most use out of.
>
> Rich
>
>
As Ed said, if you have the space and cash get the 12. That said I did re
build a yaght galley with hand tools and a hand drill mounted press, I'd
have given eye teeth for a proper 9" - very difficult to use forstner bits
in a hand drill :-).
Bernard R
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do
you
> > think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker?
> Thanks
>
> Get the 12". It is about $180 or so. You'll find many limitations with
the
> smaller unit, rarely with the 12".
>
> I have the Delta but there are other brands that are good also.
> Ed
>
>
> Get the tool that you actually need. If you have no need right now, wait
> until you do have a need. Waiting until you have a need insures that you
> get the correct NEXT tool.
I agree with this concept 99.9%...the only knock on it is that often, if you
wait until the last minute, you end up having to buy less of a machine than
you otherwise would have since the ONLY DP/OSS/BS that is available now or
for the next 3 weeks is this Harbor Fright-type thing.
This can, obviously, be worked around by figuring out what you'll need
BEFORE actually making chips/dust, but how many of us haven't jumped into a
job just a teensy bit too quickly?
Mike
"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
> the most use out of.
>
> Rich
>
>
Wood?
D. Mo
or:
double play
data processing
dew point
I'm just messin' which ya!
dave
searcher1 wrote:
> DP OH DUH, boy do I feel dumb!
> Rich
>
> "Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>searcher1 wrote:
>>
>>>Ok DP---OSS what are these things?
>>
>>DP = Drill Press
>>OSS = Oscillating Spindle Sander
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>
>
>
Ok DP---OSS what are these things?
Rich
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nope. get a 16 1/2 and then it will double as a poor man's (read: me)
> mortiser, and even a drum sander, although that can mess up the
> bearings. (Which is ANOTHER reason I just bought a Ryobi OSS) I like my
> Delta floor model DP. Some guys think the chuck sucks, but I've had no
> issues with it, and run out on my unit is under .002.
>
> You'll most likely need to sell the 9 incher at a garage sale when you
> realize the need for a "real" DP.
>
> The preceding is merely my opinion. Don't substitute my judgment for
> your own.
>
> dave
>
> searcher1 wrote:
>
> > I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do
you
> > think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker?
Thanks
> >
> > Rich
> > "Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>I can hand cut most woods with a rip saw and curves with a coping saw,
but
> >
> > I
> >
> >>can't drill truly square holes with a hand drill and sure as hell don't
> >
> > like
> >
> >>drilling any form of steel with one. Drill press was the FIRST workshop
> >>tool I ever bought. That said only you know what your needs are...
> >>
> >>Bernard R
> >>
> >>
> >>"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>>I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools,
but
> >>>what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> >>>I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would
> >
> > get
> >
> >>>the most use out of.
> >>>
> >>>Rich
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Guess I've never had that trouble. Needs have dictated tool
selection.
I can not imagine being without my drill press. And my scroll saw
gets used just about every time I am in the shop.
How often do you use the hand drill, and cuss at it's built in
inaccuracy?
Does your table saw always make the cuts you need?
And my various stationary sanders earn theiri keep.
just my $.02
-Dan V.
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:15:29 GMT, "searcher1"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
>what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
>I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
>the most use out of.
>
>Rich
>
>
I'd look at a jointer and planar. You will need to have square/flat
stock to really move forward. Now, in saying that, if you prefer, and
a lot of us do, get yourself a couple of handplanes for these tasks.
Can be pretty long work in the flattening department but for squaring
an edge, a plane is pretty simple.
Cheers,
cc
> Yeah, I have been using my router and a stright bit to give me a stright
>edge which to join, so I guess if that is working for me right now I can put
>off the jointer. Plus I get an almost perfect cut with my TS, at least when
>I make the cut I can flipp the boards and have them butt perfectly. I think
>that I will go with a 12 in DP now, on to which model to choose. I have a
>budget of 200.00 and would also like to get a set of forstner bits with the
>money.
Big congrads on the router/table saw use for squaring boards. That is
how we learn. Recent tool book had Rigid DP, 15 inch as a good #2,
which was $100 USD less than #1. My BORG has that for $298.
Patience is more than a virtue.
"searcher1" wrote in message
> I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
> the most use out of.
Nobody knows but you and the projects you do, now and in the future.
IOW, let the projects you do dictate the tools to buy, when you need them.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/28/04
"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
> the most use out of.
I would prefer to get the bandsaw first and get by in the meantime with my
cordless drill, but that is just me.
I think eventually you will want both.
Frank
It depends, of course, on what you need to do. You can't resaw a
board with a drill press and you can't bore a square hole with a
bandsaw. You have to think about what you want to do that you
currently can't because you don't have the tools to do it with.
(That said, I can tell you the my DP gets used far more often than my
BS, and also far more often than I ever thought it would.)
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:15:29 GMT, "searcher1"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
>what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
>I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
>the most use out of.
>
>Rich
>
-- jc
Published e-mail address is strictly for spam collection.
If e-mailing me, please use jc631 at optonline dot net
Get over to Sears. They have 10% off on all Craftsman tools. At least you
get a tool from someone you can trust. I bought a couple this morning. You
really need good tools you do a good job.
Ralph Engerman
R. E. Quick Transit.
"Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> As Ed said, if you have the space and cash get the 12. That said I did re
> build a yaght galley with hand tools and a hand drill mounted press, I'd
> have given eye teeth for a proper 9" - very difficult to use forstner bits
> in a hand drill :-).
>
> Bernard R
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do
> you
> > > think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker?
> > Thanks
> >
> > Get the 12". It is about $180 or so. You'll find many limitations with
> the
> > smaller unit, rarely with the 12".
> >
> > I have the Delta but there are other brands that are good also.
> > Ed
> >
> >
>
>
trust Sears? on equipment? If I drank coffee, I'd have it all over me
now. You crack me up, R.E!
dave
R. E. Engerman wrote:
> Get over to Sears. They have 10% off on all Craftsman tools. At least you
> get a tool from someone you can trust. I bought a couple this morning. You
> really need good tools you do a good job.
>
> Ralph Engerman
> R. E. Quick Transit.
>
> "Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>As Ed said, if you have the space and cash get the 12. That said I did re
>>build a yaght galley with hand tools and a hand drill mounted press, I'd
>>have given eye teeth for a proper 9" - very difficult to use forstner bits
>>in a hand drill :-).
>>
>>Bernard R
>>
>>"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do
>>
>>you
>>
>>>>think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Get the 12". It is about $180 or so. You'll find many limitations with
>>
>>the
>>
>>>smaller unit, rarely with the 12".
>>>
>>>I have the Delta but there are other brands that are good also.
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Where on earth did my A go in the straight?
"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, I have been using my router and a stright bit to give me a stright
> edge which to join, so I guess if that is working for me right now I can
put
> off the jointer. Plus I get an almost perfect cut with my TS, at least
when
> I make the cut I can flipp the boards and have them butt perfectly. I
think
> that I will go with a 12 in DP now, on to which model to choose. I have a
> budget of 200.00 and would also like to get a set of forstner bits with
the
> money.
>
> Rich
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "KYHighlander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > if you plan to edge join any boards you better get a jointer.
> >
> > Geez and to think that for 6 years I was edge joining boards and not
using
> a
> > jointer...;~)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
You can also clamp a board on top of a piece of 12" wide plywood and let the
plywood ride along the fence. Then cut the glue line on the TS where the
board overhangs the opposite edge of the plywood.
"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, I have been using my router and a stright bit to give me a stright
> edge which to join, so I guess if that is working for me right now I can
put
> off the jointer. Plus I get an almost perfect cut with my TS, at least
when
> I make the cut I can flipp the boards and have them butt perfectly. I
think
> that I will go with a 12 in DP now, on to which model to choose. I have a
> budget of 200.00 and would also like to get a set of forstner bits with
the
> money.
>
> Rich
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "KYHighlander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > if you plan to edge join any boards you better get a jointer.
> >
> > Geez and to think that for 6 years I was edge joining boards and not
using
> a
> > jointer...;~)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Nope. get a 16 1/2 and then it will double as a poor man's (read: me)
mortiser, and even a drum sander, although that can mess up the
bearings. (Which is ANOTHER reason I just bought a Ryobi OSS) I like my
Delta floor model DP. Some guys think the chuck sucks, but I've had no
issues with it, and run out on my unit is under .002.
You'll most likely need to sell the 9 incher at a garage sale when you
realize the need for a "real" DP.
The preceding is merely my opinion. Don't substitute my judgment for
your own.
dave
searcher1 wrote:
> I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do you
> think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker? Thanks
>
> Rich
> "Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I can hand cut most woods with a rip saw and curves with a coping saw, but
>
> I
>
>>can't drill truly square holes with a hand drill and sure as hell don't
>
> like
>
>>drilling any form of steel with one. Drill press was the FIRST workshop
>>tool I ever bought. That said only you know what your needs are...
>>
>>Bernard R
>>
>>
>>"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
>>>what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
>>>I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would
>
> get
>
>>>the most use out of.
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do you
think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker? Thanks
Rich
"Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I can hand cut most woods with a rip saw and curves with a coping saw, but
I
> can't drill truly square holes with a hand drill and sure as hell don't
like
> drilling any form of steel with one. Drill press was the FIRST workshop
> tool I ever bought. That said only you know what your needs are...
>
> Bernard R
>
>
> "searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> > what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> > I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would
get
> > the most use out of.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
>
>
Wood!!! Funny, I bought a 12" DP, a bench grinder and many bits for the
router and DP. FUN FUN FUN I love playing with new toys!!
RICH
"D. Mo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> > what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> > I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would
get
> > the most use out of.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
>
> Wood?
>
> D. Mo
>
>
all of the above:
bandsaw
drill press
AND:
jointer
surface planer
HVLP
He who dies with the most toys, wins.
dave
searcher1 wrote:
> I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
> the most use out of.
>
> Rich
>
>
Yeah, I have been using my router and a stright bit to give me a stright
edge which to join, so I guess if that is working for me right now I can put
off the jointer. Plus I get an almost perfect cut with my TS, at least when
I make the cut I can flipp the boards and have them butt perfectly. I think
that I will go with a 12 in DP now, on to which model to choose. I have a
budget of 200.00 and would also like to get a set of forstner bits with the
money.
Rich
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "KYHighlander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > if you plan to edge join any boards you better get a jointer.
>
> Geez and to think that for 6 years I was edge joining boards and not using
a
> jointer...;~)
>
>
>
"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do you
> think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker?
Thanks
Get the 12". It is about $180 or so. You'll find many limitations with the
smaller unit, rarely with the 12".
I have the Delta but there are other brands that are good also.
Ed
"The Davenports" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Get the tool that you actually need. If you have no need right now,
wait
> > until you do have a need. Waiting until you have a need insures that
you
> > get the correct NEXT tool.
>
>
> I agree with this concept 99.9%...the only knock on it is that often, if
you
> wait until the last minute, you end up having to buy less of a machine
than
> you otherwise would have since the ONLY DP/OSS/BS that is available now or
> for the next 3 weeks is this Harbor Fright-type thing.
Nawww.. You do it the MANLY way... It's the thrill of the hunt. Shop
every thing all the time so that when the need arises you acn jump on it
fully informed.
I didnt even catch that one....
Rich
"Jerry Gilreath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:uRm2c.476232$I06.5308285@attbi_s01...
> It was assimilated by the second "p" in flip.
>
> --
> "Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
> They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
> Homer Simpson
> Jerry© The Phoneman®
> "searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Where on earth did my A go in the straight?
> > "searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Yeah, I have been using my router and a stright bit to give me a
stright
> > > edge which to join, so I guess if that is working for me right now I
can
> > put
> > > off the jointer. Plus I get an almost perfect cut with my TS, at least
> > when
> > > I make the cut I can flipp the boards and have them butt perfectly. I
> > think
> > > that I will go with a 12 in DP now, on to which model to choose. I
have
> a
> > > budget of 200.00 and would also like to get a set of forstner bits
with
> > the
> > > money.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > > "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > "KYHighlander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > if you plan to edge join any boards you better get a jointer.
> > > >
> > > > Geez and to think that for 6 years I was edge joining boards and not
> > using
> > > a
> > > > jointer...;~)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
searcher1 wrote:
> I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do you
> think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker?
A lot of people have them and claim they're just dandy, but every one I've
ever looked at has been incredibly crappy.
My first drill press was a 10" benchtop. It was very useful, but I found it
somewhat limiting. Two or three years later, I swapped for a 15" floor
model. If I had it all to do over again, I would have gone straight for
the floor model.
I rarely use more than a quarter of the table travel, but I very regularly
use more table travel than I had on the benchtop. It has a beefier chuck
that runs truer, and actually grips small bits better than the smaller
chuck did. A floor model can do everything a benchtop can do, but the
reverse just isn't true.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
unless he gets Craftsman or HF. [running and ducking for cover]
Just kidding folks! It's a funny. Not meant to impugn your favorite
brand. Save the flames for when I'm seriously rotten. This is a J-O-K-E.
What's the appropriate acronym for running/ducking. I used to use it on
Compuserve. The mind is the second thing to go...
dave
Leon wrote:
> Get the tool that you actually need. If you have no need right now, wait
> until you do have a need. Waiting until you have a need insures that you
> get the correct NEXT tool.
>
>
R. E. Engerman wrote:
> Get over to Sears. They have 10% off on all Craftsman tools. At least
> you
> get a tool from someone you can trust. I bought a couple this morning.
> You really need good tools you do a good job.
Nice cast!
(I still like my new Craftsman table saw, and I got 30% off. 10% plus an
additional 20%. I knew what I was buying. When it falls apart and the
accuracy goes all to hell in six months, you people can laugh at me and
point fingers, but I'm betting about $400 that's not really going to
happen. Time will tell.)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
DP OH DUH, boy do I feel dumb!
Rich
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> searcher1 wrote:
> > Ok DP---OSS what are these things?
>
> DP = Drill Press
> OSS = Oscillating Spindle Sander
>
> -- Mark
>
>
in all seriousness, I agree with the other posters that you should buy
what you need to do a project. That's worked pretty well for me, so
far. I bought an OSS the night I needed it, and boy am I glad I got it!
There's no bigger waste of money than spending your money on something
to gather dust.
dave
searcher1 wrote:
> I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
> the most use out of.
>
> Rich
>
>
that's it. thanks, Joe.
dave
Joe Wells wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:54:02 +0000, Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>
>>unless he gets Craftsman or HF. [running and ducking for cover]
>
> <...>
>
>>What's the appropriate acronym for running/ducking. I used to use it on
>>Compuserve. The mind is the second thing to go...
>
>
> Used to be GDR or GD&R or GDAR- Grinning, Ducking, and Running.
>
I agree with Edwin. Get at least a 12" swing. I got a bench top DP
with a 10" swing and it's the bare minimum I could live with. I
would've been nice if I had gotten one with a 12" swing at least.
Layne
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:35:55 GMT, "searcher1"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I think that with all the responses I will purchase a drill press. Do you
>think a 9" press would be fine for the average homeowner/woodworker? Thanks
>
>Rich
"KYHighlander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> if you plan to edge join any boards you better get a jointer.
Geez and to think that for 6 years I was edge joining boards and not using a
jointer...;~)
On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:54:02 +0000, Bay Area Dave wrote:
> unless he gets Craftsman or HF. [running and ducking for cover]
<...>
> What's the appropriate acronym for running/ducking. I used to use it on
> Compuserve. The mind is the second thing to go...
Used to be GDR or GD&R or GDAR- Grinning, Ducking, and Running.
--
Joe Wells
It was assimilated by the second "p" in flip.
--
"Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
Homer Simpson
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Where on earth did my A go in the straight?
> "searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yeah, I have been using my router and a stright bit to give me a stright
> > edge which to join, so I guess if that is working for me right now I can
> put
> > off the jointer. Plus I get an almost perfect cut with my TS, at least
> when
> > I make the cut I can flipp the boards and have them butt perfectly. I
> think
> > that I will go with a 12 in DP now, on to which model to choose. I have
a
> > budget of 200.00 and would also like to get a set of forstner bits with
> the
> > money.
> >
> > Rich
> > "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "KYHighlander" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > if you plan to edge join any boards you better get a jointer.
> > >
> > > Geez and to think that for 6 years I was edge joining boards and not
> using
> > a
> > > jointer...;~)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
if you plan to edge join any boards you better get a jointer.
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"searcher1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I alread have a TS,router,scrollsaw, various other hand power tools, but
> what would be my next purchase in an ameture's woodshop?
> I was thinking bandsaw or drill press but I am not sure which I would get
> the most use out of.
>
> Rich
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