OOP! I mean, I stained all by myself. heheheheheh
I'm proud. I found a can of some kind of maple stain that has been in my
garage for almost 8 years (here when I moved in) and never tried staining so
I got the screwdriver and almost could not pry the lid off. The lip was
just bending but finally....
I took a foam brush and brushed it on a picture frame I just made using my
cheap miter saw and ex-Crapsman router after I had wood-glued it together.
The stain looked really nice but I learned a lesson. hehehehe
Never stain wood AFTER you wood glue if you wipe glue on top of it. Well,
it's all just practice. But it is not too noticeable. The fumes were tough
during the staining but I have a big garage so I just left after I evened
out the coat.
Do you normally stain w/one coat or multiple coats? Is it okay to not put a
varnish or finish on the wood after a stain? I have some tung oil in the
garage too from 8 years ago. Would that work AFTER a stain???
Tim
"Robert Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Tim Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > OOP! I mean, I stained all by myself. heheheheheh
>
>
> Opps.., you indeed made more mistakes than you did right. So don't gloat
> too much.
Tim S.:
If it seemed as if I was gloating, I wasn't. I bought $5 of molding,
chopped it with a saw, glued it and wiped some old stain on it and the
SIGNIFICANCE of the project is that I am 40 and have never really created
anything much out of wood by using any cutting tools ( I used a skill saw
once or twice) and I have never done ANY finishing and far from gloating I
was simply proud.
Remind me the next time you make a E7b9 chord on the guitar for the first
time to tell you to quit gloating, go take some lessons and drop the Mel Bay
chord book.
RL:
First, even if it was your very first project, (I still have my
> first after fifty-five odd years), to use a can of 8 year old stain is to
> say that your work is undeserving of the best chance for a decent finish.
Tim S.:
Correct. It was $2 worth of wood that also was pieced (joints every foot I
think) so even if I stained with new pro stuff, the joints were showing and
on a picture frame that wouldn't do.
Translation: It didn't MATTER if it stained perfectly. However, for the
record, it stained great as far as I could tell (color changed, not too
dark, no build up in places) and the viscosity (ooooh!) of the stain in the
can was low (like milk).
RC:
> All paint and stain have a shelf life. Your first clue was that it was
left
> behind when you moved into the place.
Tim S.:
Man, you might want to reassess how you interpret postings and quit
assuming. It wasn't "left behind". The guy living in the house before me
DIED. There are several cans of tung oil and other stuff that I'm sure HE
would have taken but his SON obviously had no need for them and left them.
RL:
Second was when you had to cut the
> top off to get at the product. Second was that you had to apply it to
your
> picture frame like putty.., (opps, sorry, you didn't say that.., did
> you?)..,
>
Tim S.:
How many wrong assumptions have you made in your reply while I simply wanted
to share the fact that I had done something I had never done before?
RL:
> Stain is not expensive. To use a product of unknown quality is not
showing
> your hard efforts off in the best light possible.
Tim S.:
If I had created a product WORTHY of being seen, then of course I agree with
you. I would not paint a picture for 2 months and grab some can of used
varnish from a garage and without testing it even, brush it over the
painting. Give me some credit. Perhaps you are confused by the light tone
of my post and equating that with the idea that I must be an airhead?
RL:
Perhaps you are satisfied
> with your results at the moment, and I encourage you to continue.., just
> don't be so cheap with your next. Spend the $2.00 for a fresh 1/4 pint of
> stain, and know that if the results are not what you expected, that it is
> most likely you and not the product.
>
> Robert Lee
> Chandler, AZ
>
>
>
>
Tim S.:
I fully understand your intentions but I believe you misinterpreted my post
and didn't have enough info to understand that I wasn't staining a 6 month
project.
Thanks for the advice.
Tim
"Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Fri, Sep 12, 2003, 5:22am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Tim Simmons)
asks:
<snip> Do you normally stain w/one coat or multiple coats? <snip>
I normally stain with a shirt on, T-shirt under; but it it's cool,
I will wear a jacket too.
Tim S.:
HEHEHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHEHE
Tim
snip
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Used that type of stain my self a few times, If sealed properly the shelf
> life on stain can be awesome.
Tim S.:
That seems true because I know this has been unused in a tightly sealed can
for at LEAST eight years and the seal was so tight I could almost not pry
the lid off. But the liquid was very thin and not gummy or thick. But I
assumed it shouldn't be thick because I do a little painting and the
transparent colors are usually less pigmented and I also didn't care how it
looked. Just did it.
SS:
If the color is good one coat, if too light
> give it another coat.
Tim S.:
One coat looked nice so I quit. I just didn't know if there was maybe a
saturation prob by putting too many on or if you had to wait a day or what.
SS:
If the tung oil is still liquid probably ok. This
> type of activity is ok for one of a kind items where the finish is not
real
> important, but next time take a scrap and try it out first. Old finish can
> be a real surprise in how they come out. Above all have fun with it.
Tim S.:
I did!
Tim
I've stained my panties many times from my menstruating twat!
"Tim Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> OOP! I mean, I stained all by myself. heheheheheh
>
>
> I'm proud. I found a can of some kind of maple stain that has been in my
> garage for almost 8 years (here when I moved in) and never tried staining so
> I got the screwdriver and almost could not pry the lid off. The lip was
> just bending but finally....
>
> I took a foam brush and brushed it on a picture frame I just made using my
> cheap miter saw and ex-Crapsman router after I had wood-glued it together.
> The stain looked really nice but I learned a lesson. hehehehe
>
> Never stain wood AFTER you wood glue if you wipe glue on top of it. Well,
> it's all just practice. But it is not too noticeable. The fumes were tough
> during the staining but I have a big garage so I just left after I evened
> out the coat.
>
> Do you normally stain w/one coat or multiple coats? Is it okay to not put a
> varnish or finish on the wood after a stain? I have some tung oil in the
> garage too from 8 years ago. Would that work AFTER a stain???
>
>
> Tim
Fri, Sep 12, 2003, 5:22am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Tim=A0Simmons)
asks:
<snip> Do you normally stain w/one coat or multiple coats? <snip>
I normally stain with a shirt on, T-shirt under; but it it's cool,
I will wear a jacket too.
JOAT
If Pro means 'For' and Con means 'Against', you can safely say the
opposite of 'Pro' is 'Con'. Can we then assume that the opposite of
'Progress' is 'Congress'? - Unknown
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 11 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
"Monica Krowley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've stained my panties many times from my menstruating twat!
>
>
Tim S.:
Thanks for sharing that. Were you as proud the first time as I was when I
stained a piece of wood?
Tim
snip.....
"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:22:41 GMT, "Tim Simmons"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >OOP! I mean, I stained all by myself. heheheheheh
> >
> >
> >I'm proud. I found a can of some kind of maple stain that has been in
my
> >garage for almost 8 years (here when I moved in) and never tried staining
so
> >I got the screwdriver and almost could not pry the lid off. The lip was
> >just bending but finally....
> >
> >I took a foam brush and brushed it on a picture frame I just made using
my
> >cheap miter saw and ex-Crapsman router after I had wood-glued it
together.
> >The stain looked really nice but I learned a lesson. hehehehe
> >
> >Never stain wood AFTER you wood glue if you wipe glue on top of it.
Well,
> >it's all just practice. But it is not too noticeable. The fumes were
tough
> >during the staining but I have a big garage so I just left after I evened
> >out the coat.
> >
> >Do you normally stain w/one coat or multiple coats? Is it okay to not
put a
> >varnish or finish on the wood after a stain? I have some tung oil in the
> >garage too from 8 years ago. Would that work AFTER a stain???
> >
> >
> >Tim
> >
>
>
> When I build a project, I save a few small pieces of scrap wood just
> to test the stain and finishes I might use. Sometimes I'll apply
> several coats of stain, other times just one. Wait a few days (a week
> is better) then apply a clear finish (shellac, varnish, laquer, tung
> oil). It is best to follow the recommendations on the can, but even
> still, use a scap piece first. (I'd hate to mess up a project in a
> few seconds that I spent several days work.)
Tim S.:
Yes, I'll do that when I have a good project I'm happy with. I'm only a few
weeks old at wood working so I'm in the I-don-t-mind-if-it-doesn't-work mode
but I'm trying to learn a few things. I cut some wood tonight with my miter
saw and trimmed with miter trimmer and then glued them together with wood
glue. Almost got a perfect square from 4 triangles. Not quite tho. I
also didn't put enough glue. arggggggg.
Tim
"Tim Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OOP! I mean, I stained all by myself. heheheheheh
Opps.., you indeed made more mistakes than you did right. So don't gloat
too much. First, even if it was your very first project, (I still have my
first after fifty-five odd years), to use a can of 8 year old stain is to
say that your work is undeserving of the best chance for a decent finish.
All paint and stain have a shelf life. Your first clue was that it was left
behind when you moved into the place. Second was when you had to cut the
top off to get at the product. Second was that you had to apply it to your
picture frame like putty.., (opps, sorry, you didn't say that.., did
you?)..,
Stain is not expensive. To use a product of unknown quality is not showing
your hard efforts off in the best light possible. Perhaps you are satisfied
with your results at the moment, and I encourage you to continue.., just
don't be so cheap with your next. Spend the $2.00 for a fresh 1/4 pint of
stain, and know that if the results are not what you expected, that it is
most likely you and not the product.
Robert Lee
Chandler, AZ
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:22:41 GMT, "Tim Simmons"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>OOP! I mean, I stained all by myself. heheheheheh
>
>
>I'm proud. I found a can of some kind of maple stain that has been in my
>garage for almost 8 years (here when I moved in) and never tried staining so
>I got the screwdriver and almost could not pry the lid off. The lip was
>just bending but finally....
>
>I took a foam brush and brushed it on a picture frame I just made using my
>cheap miter saw and ex-Crapsman router after I had wood-glued it together.
>The stain looked really nice but I learned a lesson. hehehehe
>
>Never stain wood AFTER you wood glue if you wipe glue on top of it. Well,
>it's all just practice. But it is not too noticeable. The fumes were tough
>during the staining but I have a big garage so I just left after I evened
>out the coat.
>
>Do you normally stain w/one coat or multiple coats? Is it okay to not put a
>varnish or finish on the wood after a stain? I have some tung oil in the
>garage too from 8 years ago. Would that work AFTER a stain???
>
>
>Tim
>
When I build a project, I save a few small pieces of scrap wood just
to test the stain and finishes I might use. Sometimes I'll apply
several coats of stain, other times just one. Wait a few days (a week
is better) then apply a clear finish (shellac, varnish, laquer, tung
oil). It is best to follow the recommendations on the can, but even
still, use a scap piece first. (I'd hate to mess up a project in a
few seconds that I spent several days work.)
Used that type of stain my self a few times, If sealed properly the shelf
life on stain can be awesome. If the color is good one coat, if too light
give it another coat. If the tung oil is still liquid probably ok. This
type of activity is ok for one of a kind items where the finish is not real
important, but next time take a scrap and try it out first. Old finish can
be a real surprise in how they come out. Above all have fun with it.
"Tim Simmons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OOP! I mean, I stained all by myself. heheheheheh
>
>
> I'm proud. I found a can of some kind of maple stain that has been in my
> garage for almost 8 years (here when I moved in) and never tried staining
so
> I got the screwdriver and almost could not pry the lid off. The lip was
> just bending but finally....
>
> I took a foam brush and brushed it on a picture frame I just made using my
> cheap miter saw and ex-Crapsman router after I had wood-glued it together.
> The stain looked really nice but I learned a lesson. hehehehe
>
> Never stain wood AFTER you wood glue if you wipe glue on top of it.
Well,
> it's all just practice. But it is not too noticeable. The fumes were
tough
> during the staining but I have a big garage so I just left after I evened
> out the coat.
>
> Do you normally stain w/one coat or multiple coats? Is it okay to not put
a
> varnish or finish on the wood after a stain? I have some tung oil in the
> garage too from 8 years ago. Would that work AFTER a stain???
>
>
> Tim
>
>