On 8/22/2015 4:30 PM, John McCoy wrote:
>
> Of course, then there's the experts who don't. I recall
> seeing video on CNN several years ago of a tree service
> using a crane to lift a large tree out of a backyard, over
> the house. Since it wouldn't be news if it had worked as
> planned, you know what happened next: the tree got dropped
> on the house, causing all manner of damage.
>
> There was some reason why it couldn't be taken down piece-
> wise, but I don't recall what it was.
>
Could be it was going to be transplanted. There is a machine that cuts
a huge root ball and takes the entire tree out.
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:01:25 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:mra337$26i$2@dont-
>email.me:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC)
>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Whoever cut that, obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree.
>>
>> it is possible they know a lot
>> but what they know is all wrong
>
>That's not meaningfully different from knowing nothing at all. I repeat, whoever cut that
>obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree. Look at the picture again: there's one cut.
>
>Just one.
>
>One horizontal cut about 90% of the way through the trunk, before the tree snapped off and
>fell in the direction it would obviously fall.
>
>You're *supposed* to notch it on the side you want it to fall toward: *two* cuts, not one, like
>this: <
>
>Then make a horizontal cut from the other side, above the notch, and the tree falls toward
>the notch.
Unless it is grossly overbalanced the other way, in which case it just
"kicks" and still falls toward the lean. anyway.
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:mr8g10$euf$1
@dont-email.me:
> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aug/5047593403.html
>
My uncle was cutting down a tree near a large metal building not long ago.
He had the tree almost ready to fall, and a big gust of wind came up and
did it for him... Right on to the building. Oops.
(I was not there, but did see the downed building.)
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
[email protected] wrote in news:taihtap0dk3f1n1pg202rraakahvfoc7dr@
4ax.com:
> Tree sefvice took down a HUGE maple in the neighbour's back yard
> ratlier this year. They did it all with simple rope slings, most of it
> coming down in chunks 4 feet long or less. The only power tools they
> used were a chain saw and a big chipper out on the street. The cutter
> went up the tree, cut off a few branches, tied on with his sling, and
> cut off all the branched piece by piece, dropping them with a rope
> sling, then went up the tree with spurs and belt,. and cut chunks off
> above the belt- pushing them off as he went. Surprising how fast that
> tree came down!!!!!
Always fun to watch experts at work. They certainly get things done
efficiently. :-)
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> RE: Subject
>>
>> Learned years ago there are certain tasks best left to others.
>>
>> The list starts with brain surgery self taught followed by laying
>> concrete and felling trees.
>>
>> As I get older, no longer use ladders, work the foredeck of
>> sailboats,
>> or other tasks best left to the 18-30 crowd.
>>
>> Lew
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"Bill" wrote:
> Did you ever try laying concrete? If so, how did it go? A
> question that concerns me is whether one can sledge out a few cubic
> feet of concrete, and just replace that. If so, I might have a go at
> it.
>
> Bill
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Was going to expand a slab patio by adding 12-14 ft x 18-20 ft slab.
Stripped off all the sod, set the forms, and added foundry sand
available
at the right price from the local FoMoCo foundry.
Set the forms along with the black spacer strips for expansion.
Starting getting prices for concrete and something kept telling me
to talk to a concrete contractor before I jumped into this project.
My daughter who was in the 1st grade at the time had just fallen
in love for the first time with a classmate who was the son of a
concrete contractor.
I called the contractor, explained my situation, and asked if he would
at least look at the job.
He looked, was impressed with the form work and agreed to do the job.
On the appointed day, his crew showed up, complete with a gasoline
powered concrete buggy to bring the concrete from the truck at the
street
to the project area.
Suddenly a roll of wire mesh appeared and was placed inside the forms.
The 2nd thing I hadn't thought about, damn I was luck I listened to my
little voice.
The project went well. It could have been a disaster.
Went on to add a slanted shed roof off the house and have some
wrought iron columns fabricated and had many years of enjoyment.
Up to that point, had limited my concrete work to many small jobs
using
bags of concrete from the local K-Mmart.
Your project would seem to fit into the K-Mart category.
Knock out enough concrete to get a smooth surface to butt up against
and you are in business.
Lew
"Electric Comet" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aug/5047593403.html
YouTube has a bunch of tree falling fails...
After watching the videos, and having been certified through the Game of
Logging program, I'm starting to think you should need a license and
mandatory training to buy and/or use a chainsaw!
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> Electric Comet wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:43:04 -0400
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> Unless it is grossly overbalanced the other way, in which case it
> >> just "kicks" and still falls toward the lean. anyway.
> >
> > i have heard of that and as mentioned by others wind can be a factor
>
> Sure can. I was felling a tree many years ago, and at that time I had many
> years of experience at felling trees. I'm quite careful when I bring down
> trees, and have never been reckless at the task. On this particular day the
> tree I was felling had some lean to it and I was attempting to drop it with
> the lean. Should have been a walk in the park. Made my notch, and was into
> my felling cut when the wind came up. It was not a windy day, and this wind
> just came up... from the wrong direction. It brought the tree back into my
> felling cut, pinched my saw in the cut, and brought the tree over the wrong
> way. Sitting not far enough away was my pickup. Guess where that tree
> went! Fortunately, the branches pretty much forked around my truck and only
> some smaller ones hit the truck, causing very minor damage. Could have been
> a lot worse. What was worse was that my saw was pinched in the cut and when
> the tree came far enough over, it jumped the stump. Out comes my saw and it
> fell to the ground. Down comes the butt of the tree - right on my saw.
> Completely destroyed the saw. Fortunately, I watch my tree all the while
> when I dropping it, and I realized what was happening with time to beat feet
> away from the tree. Had the perfect view of the carnage in real time.
>
> Shit can happen even when you know what you're doing and even when you're
> careful.
Gotta say, three cheers for the tree--you may have killed it but it got
its revenge.
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aug/5047593403.html
Whoever cut that, obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree.
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:mr8g10$euf$1 @dont-email.me:
>
>> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aug/5047593403.html
>>
>
> My uncle was cutting down a tree near a large metal building not long
> ago. He had the tree almost ready to fall, and a big gust of wind
> came up and did it for him... Right on to the building. Oops.
>
> (I was not there, but did see the downed building.)
The one time I cut down a tree and it was important that it
fall in a particular direction, I tied a rope around it a
ways up the trunk, and used a pickup truck to keep tension
on it in the direction I wanted the tree to fall (having
made sure the rope was long enough that the tree didn't
fall on the truck, fortunately).
John
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:mra2sj$26i$1
@dont-email.me:
> i saw a video where they did this sort of
> the rope was not taught though they waited until tree was loose
> i thought that the bumper was going to come off or some other mishap
Yeah, that occurred to me when I did it. So I tied the
rope to the trailer hitch. I figured if the hitch is good
to pull an umpteen thousand pound trailer, it's good to
keep a rope (with a few hundred pound breaking point)
taut for a while.
Speaking of which, today's safety reminder - if you have
a taut rope, keep any spectators well back from the
scene. If it breaks, it's going to act like a whip and
mow down anyone within range.
John
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> [email protected] wrote in news:taihtap0dk3f1n1pg202rraakahvfoc7dr@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> Tree sefvice took down a HUGE maple in the neighbour's back yard
>> ratlier this year. They did it all with simple rope slings, most of
>> it coming down in chunks 4 feet long or less. The only power tools
>> they used were a chain saw and a big chipper out on the street. The
>> cutter went up the tree, cut off a few branches, tied on with his
>> sling, and cut off all the branched piece by piece, dropping them
>> with a rope sling, then went up the tree with spurs and belt,. and
>> cut chunks off above the belt- pushing them off as he went.
>> Surprising how fast that tree came down!!!!!
>
> Always fun to watch experts at work. They certainly get things done
> efficiently. :-)
Of course, then there's the experts who don't. I recall
seeing video on CNN several years ago of a tree service
using a crane to lift a large tree out of a backyard, over
the house. Since it wouldn't be news if it had worked as
planned, you know what happened next: the tree got dropped
on the house, causing all manner of damage.
There was some reason why it couldn't be taken down piece-
wise, but I don't recall what it was.
Around here the power company has been replacing poles. The
way they do it is to lift the new pole vertically with a very
tall crane, and thread it down thru the wires. Then they
fasten the wires to the new pole, detach from the old, and
pull the old one out vertically the same way. It looks like
there's any manner of ways that could go wrong, but they
don't seem to have caused any blackouts yet...
John
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:mra337$26i$2@dont-
email.me:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC)
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Whoever cut that, obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree.
>
> it is possible they know a lot
> but what they know is all wrong
That's not meaningfully different from knowing nothing at all. I repeat, whoever cut that
obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree. Look at the picture again: there's one cut.
Just one.
One horizontal cut about 90% of the way through the trunk, before the tree snapped off and
fell in the direction it would obviously fall.
You're *supposed* to notch it on the side you want it to fall toward: *two* cuts, not one, like
this: <
Then make a horizontal cut from the other side, above the notch, and the tree falls toward
the notch.
On 8/23/2015 12:38 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:01:25 +0000 (UTC)
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's not meaningfully different from knowing nothing at all. I
>> repeat, whoever cut that obviously knows nothing at all about felling
>> a tree. Look at the picture again: there's one cut.
>
> might not be meaningful but then again it might be
> i have seen a lot of people claiming to be expert in lots of different
> endeavors
> but they do things that reveal they are not expert
>
> that picture is not very good
> but what difference does it make
> it was done wrong and they did it using wrong knowledge
Maybe the tree was fell right and the house was built in the wrong spot.
;~)
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 12:41:33 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> might not be meaningful but then again it might be
> i have seen a lot of people claiming to be expert in lots of different
> endeavors
> but they do things that reveal they are not expert
An expert nonexpert!
My sister once commented that I was a jack-of-all-trades. My brother immediately replied that I was a jack-of-all-asses.
Sonny
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 2:16:50 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:01:02 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>=20
> >On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:47:31 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On 08/22/2015 10:03 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
> >>...
> >>
> >>> don't fell them in the direction they lean or opposite of lean
> >>> instead as perpendicular as is possible
> >>...
> >>
> >>And if that's the direction of a (valuable) obstacle one does what,=20
> >>exactly???
> >
> >Hire a boom truck and take it down in pieces.
> Tree sefvice took down a HUGE maple in the neighbour's back yard
> ratlier this year. They did it all with simple rope slings, most of it
> coming down in chunks 4 feet long or less. The only power tools they
> used were a chain saw and a big chipper out on the street. The cutter
> went up the tree, cut off a few branches, tied on with his sling, and
> cut off all the branched piece by piece, dropping them with a rope
> sling, then went up the tree with spurs and belt,. and cut chunks off
> above the belt- pushing them off as he went. Surprising how fast that
> tree came down!!!!!
Watching the pros do it is pretty neat. The swing around and make it look e=
asy with a chainsaw on their belts. We have a friend who does it for us whe=
n we need it. I can fell a lot of trees in the right direction with the pro=
per notch cut, but the larger trees are really the province of the pros.
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 01:35:10 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>
>>>> RE: Subject
>>>>
>>>> Learned years ago there are certain tasks best left to others.
>>>>
>>>> The list starts with brain surgery self taught followed by laying
>>>> concrete and felling trees.
>>>>
>>>> As I get older, no longer use ladders, work the foredeck of
>>>> sailboats,
>>>> or other tasks best left to the 18-30 crowd.
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Bill" wrote:
>>
>>> Did you ever try laying concrete? If so, how did it go? A
>>> question that concerns me is whether one can sledge out a few cubic
>>> feet of concrete, and just replace that. If so, I might have a go at
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Bill
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Was going to expand a slab patio by adding 12-14 ft x 18-20 ft slab.
>>
>> Stripped off all the sod, set the forms, and added foundry sand
>> available
>> at the right price from the local FoMoCo foundry.
>>
>> Set the forms along with the black spacer strips for expansion.
>>
>> Starting getting prices for concrete and something kept telling me
>> to talk to a concrete contractor before I jumped into this project.
>>
>> My daughter who was in the 1st grade at the time had just fallen
>> in love for the first time with a classmate who was the son of a
>> concrete contractor.
>>
>> I called the contractor, explained my situation, and asked if he would
>> at least look at the job.
>>
>> He looked, was impressed with the form work and agreed to do the job.
>>
>> On the appointed day, his crew showed up, complete with a gasoline
>> powered concrete buggy to bring the concrete from the truck at the
>> street
>> to the project area.
>>
>> Suddenly a roll of wire mesh appeared and was placed inside the forms.
>>
>> The 2nd thing I hadn't thought about, damn I was luck I listened to my
>> little voice.
>>
>> The project went well. It could have been a disaster.
>>
>> Went on to add a slanted shed roof off the house and have some
>> wrought iron columns fabricated and had many years of enjoyment.
>>
>> Up to that point, had limited my concrete work to many small jobs
>> using
>> bags of concrete from the local K-Mmart.
>>
>> Your project would seem to fit into the K-Mart category.
>>
>> Knock out enough concrete to get a smooth surface to butt up against
>> and you are in business.
>>
>> Lew
>
>Thank you Lew! I enjoyed your story.
>
>Bill
>
As a young teanager working on the farm (98 lbs soaking wet carrying a
hay bale) I and the boss did all the forming, mixing, and pouring
concrete for the installation of a stable cleaner, as well as the
floor of the hog stable and half the manure yard - all with a little
electric mixer (1 HP electric motor) using bags of portland and gravel
from the pit on the farm. I don't know how many yards of concrete I
mixed, wheelbarrowed, and trowelled that summer - but it was a LOT!!!!
Thankfully a broom finish was all all we needed -but that was enough
work for the two of us.
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 11:12:11 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
> > RE: Subject
> >
> > Learned years ago there are certain tasks best left to others.
> >
> > The list starts with brain surgery self taught followed by laying
> > concrete and felling trees.
> Did you ever try laying concrete? If so, how did it go? A question=20
> that concerns me is whether one can sledge out a few cubic feet of=20
> concrete, and just replace that. If so, I might have a go at it.
>=20
> Bill
It's pretty easy, especailly for a small space. Be careful not to add too =
much water to your mix. You don't want it runny or watery or like syrup. =
You want the mix to be thick, to where it barely flows off your shovel or=
out your wheel barrow, when either are tilted 45 degrees, there abouts.
Mix one 60 or 80 lb bag at a time. Mixing two bags at a time is too much =
work and inconvenience, even if you have a large wheel barrow. Two-bag han=
d/shovel/hoe mixing is a PAIN in the back and elsewhere!
If you're patching a spot in your driveway slab, or similar, lay some sort =
of wire (fencing will work) or metal strips, if available, in the hole, abo=
ve the ground. The wire/metal will help hold the patch-work more firmly t=
ogether.=20
If convenient, dig a little lip under the bottom edge of the existing slab.=
This should help (a little) maintain that the original and new pours rem=
ain coplanor. As you initially pour the mix, work the mix, well, into the =
lip cavities.
As the mix settles into the hole, as you're troweling, any excess water may=
rise to the top.... just skim it off with the trowel, but make sure the co=
ncrete remains level with the original slab. For a small slab, you may no=
t have so much of this effect, but if a lot of water rises to the top, you =
may have to add a little more mix, to maintain that the old and new surface=
s remain level. The patch having a slight convex (hill) surface may be bet=
ter than it being concave (valley).
Driveway: And you probably don't need to do this: After an hour or two, te=
st the surface, with a broom, for firmness. You want the concrete fairly h=
ard, but the very top slury film to still be a little soft. Sweep (gently,=
lightly) the slury surface, if need be, to give it a roughness similar to =
the existing drive. Normal driving wear & tear will likely result in achie=
ving the same roughness, anyway, if you don't sweep.
If it's a driveway repair, avoid driving on the patch for a week.
Optional: Get an extra bag of mix and practice the water addition, to get =
a thick mix. Again, you don't want to add too much water, when mixing. =
Practice your troweling, if need be. Maybe make a few stepping stones for =
the flower beds.... with some broken glass, large pebbles as surface decor/=
texture.
Sonny
Doug Miller wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aug/5047593403.html
>
> Whoever cut that, obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree.
One might think twice about taking the guy up on his offer to help cut it
up...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:52:12 +0000 (UTC)
John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> The one time I cut down a tree and it was important that it
> fall in a particular direction, I tied a rope around it a
> ways up the trunk, and used a pickup truck to keep tension
> on it in the direction I wanted the tree to fall (having
> made sure the rope was long enough that the tree didn't
> fall on the truck, fortunately).
i saw a video where they did this sort of
the rope was not taught though they waited until tree was loose
i thought that the bumper was going to come off or some other mishap
it was more like a giant 25 foot stump
they cut it and store it for 10-15 years
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC)
Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> Whoever cut that, obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree.
it is possible they know a lot
but what they know is all wrong
on their way to becoming pro maybe
there are some notes in the scribners book (in other thread) about
felling trees
don't fell them in the direction they lean or opposite of lean
instead as perpendicular as is possible
On 08/22/2015 1:01 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:47:31 -0500, dpb<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 08/22/2015 10:03 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> don't fell them in the direction they lean or opposite of lean
>>> instead as perpendicular as is possible
>> ...
>>
>> And if that's the direction of a (valuable) obstacle one does what,
>> exactly???
>
> Hire a boom truck and take it down in pieces.
One alternative, certainly, the point was general advice must be
tempered by facts of the case...
--
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:47:31 -0500
dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> And if that's the direction of a (valuable) obstacle one does what,
> exactly???
can read about it in that scribners book
if you have limits on where you can fell it then you just may end up
having to lose some of the wood due to splitting because your only
choice is to fell it in the direction it leans (or opposite of lean)
but if you are really limited then you cut it down piece by piece just
like any urban tree trimmer would do
Electric Comet wrote:
> don't fell them in the direction they lean or opposite of lean
> instead as perpendicular as is possible
You just keep on reading your books. Those of us who actually do this kind
of thing will simply keep on doing what we know to do.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> RE: Subject
>
> Learned years ago there are certain tasks best left to others.
>
> The list starts with brain surgery self taught followed by laying
> concrete and felling trees.
>
> As I get older, no longer use ladders, work the foredeck of sailboats,
> or other tasks best left to the 18-30 crowd.
>
> Lew
Did you ever try laying concrete? If so, how did it go? A question
that concerns me is whether one can sledge out a few cubic feet of
concrete, and just replace that. If so, I might have a go at it.
Bill
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>>> RE: Subject
>>>
>>> Learned years ago there are certain tasks best left to others.
>>>
>>> The list starts with brain surgery self taught followed by laying
>>> concrete and felling trees.
>>>
>>> As I get older, no longer use ladders, work the foredeck of
>>> sailboats,
>>> or other tasks best left to the 18-30 crowd.
>>>
>>> Lew
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Bill" wrote:
>
>> Did you ever try laying concrete? If so, how did it go? A
>> question that concerns me is whether one can sledge out a few cubic
>> feet of concrete, and just replace that. If so, I might have a go at
>> it.
>>
>> Bill
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Was going to expand a slab patio by adding 12-14 ft x 18-20 ft slab.
>
> Stripped off all the sod, set the forms, and added foundry sand
> available
> at the right price from the local FoMoCo foundry.
>
> Set the forms along with the black spacer strips for expansion.
>
> Starting getting prices for concrete and something kept telling me
> to talk to a concrete contractor before I jumped into this project.
>
> My daughter who was in the 1st grade at the time had just fallen
> in love for the first time with a classmate who was the son of a
> concrete contractor.
>
> I called the contractor, explained my situation, and asked if he would
> at least look at the job.
>
> He looked, was impressed with the form work and agreed to do the job.
>
> On the appointed day, his crew showed up, complete with a gasoline
> powered concrete buggy to bring the concrete from the truck at the
> street
> to the project area.
>
> Suddenly a roll of wire mesh appeared and was placed inside the forms.
>
> The 2nd thing I hadn't thought about, damn I was luck I listened to my
> little voice.
>
> The project went well. It could have been a disaster.
>
> Went on to add a slanted shed roof off the house and have some
> wrought iron columns fabricated and had many years of enjoyment.
>
> Up to that point, had limited my concrete work to many small jobs
> using
> bags of concrete from the local K-Mmart.
>
> Your project would seem to fit into the K-Mart category.
>
> Knock out enough concrete to get a smooth surface to butt up against
> and you are in business.
>
> Lew
Thank you Lew! I enjoyed your story.
Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 00:01:25 +0000 (UTC)
Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's not meaningfully different from knowing nothing at all. I
> repeat, whoever cut that obviously knows nothing at all about felling
> a tree. Look at the picture again: there's one cut.
might not be meaningful but then again it might be
i have seen a lot of people claiming to be expert in lots of different
endeavors
but they do things that reveal they are not expert
that picture is not very good
but what difference does it make
it was done wrong and they did it using wrong knowledge
i heard that an expert is someone who has made all the mistakes
that are possible so maybe that tree feller (fella) is on their way to
becoming expert
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:43:04 -0400
[email protected] wrote:
> Unless it is grossly overbalanced the other way, in which case it just
> "kicks" and still falls toward the lean. anyway.
i have heard of that and as mentioned by others wind can be a factor
Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:43:04 -0400
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Unless it is grossly overbalanced the other way, in which case it just
>> "kicks" and still falls toward the lean. anyway.
> i have heard of that and as mentioned by others wind can be a factor
>
That's what he should tell his insurance company! --LOL
>
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Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:43:04 -0400
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Unless it is grossly overbalanced the other way, in which case it
>> just "kicks" and still falls toward the lean. anyway.
>
> i have heard of that and as mentioned by others wind can be a factor
Sure can. I was felling a tree many years ago, and at that time I had many
years of experience at felling trees. I'm quite careful when I bring down
trees, and have never been reckless at the task. On this particular day the
tree I was felling had some lean to it and I was attempting to drop it with
the lean. Should have been a walk in the park. Made my notch, and was into
my felling cut when the wind came up. It was not a windy day, and this wind
just came up... from the wrong direction. It brought the tree back into my
felling cut, pinched my saw in the cut, and brought the tree over the wrong
way. Sitting not far enough away was my pickup. Guess where that tree
went! Fortunately, the branches pretty much forked around my truck and only
some smaller ones hit the truck, causing very minor damage. Could have been
a lot worse. What was worse was that my saw was pinched in the cut and when
the tree came far enough over, it jumped the stump. Out comes my saw and it
fell to the ground. Down comes the butt of the tree - right on my saw.
Completely destroyed the saw. Fortunately, I watch my tree all the while
when I dropping it, and I realized what was happening with time to beat feet
away from the tree. Had the perfect view of the carnage in real time.
Shit can happen even when you know what you're doing and even when you're
careful.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:05:36 -0400
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's what he should tell his insurance company! --LOL
i wonder what this kind of accident would fall under
i would claim an act of god
and see where that goes
maybe they should have had a fire right around the same time
it is possible that they are tsol
Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 03:05:36 -0400
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's what he should tell his insurance company! --LOL
>
> i wonder what this kind of accident would fall under
> i would claim an act of god
> and see where that goes
Yeah right! Was god on the end of that chainsaw?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> An expert nonexpert!
you know of them too
> My sister once commented that I was a jack-of-all-trades. My
> brother immediately replied that I was a jack-of-all-asses.
brothers are always good for a laugh
Sonny wrote:
> If it's a driveway repair, avoid driving on the patch for a week. <snip>
Thank you Sonny! I AM thinking of a driveway repair.
I printed off your directions to guide me! Thank you very much!
This seems like a good project for next spring. Maybe I'll try chiseling
away at what I have and see how it goes. This seems like a good way to
save several thousand dollars, or at least hang on it it for a while.
Virtually everyone in my neighborhood who doesn't have a somewhat-new
driveway has a cracked driveway. None of us have basements. I don't mind
a crack here and there, but
I think I could repair the spot where there is the most erosion (caused
by ice forming/expanding inside the cracks in the winter). Two neighbors
each covered their driveway's with asphalt this week (it's epidemic!)
Bill
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:16:42 -0400
[email protected] wrote:
> Tree sefvice took down a HUGE maple in the neighbour's back yard
> ratlier this year. They did it all with simple rope slings, most of it
> coming down in chunks 4 feet long or less. The only power tools they
> used were a chain saw and a big chipper out on the street. The cutter
> went up the tree, cut off a few branches, tied on with his sling, and
> cut off all the branched piece by piece, dropping them with a rope
> sling, then went up the tree with spurs and belt,. and cut chunks off
> above the belt- pushing them off as he went. Surprising how fast that
> tree came down!!!!!
i watched a blackwood acacia go down in a similar way recently with
the exception that were cutting longer sections for the local portable
lumber mill
i think they were 6 feet or so
the trimmer used ropes for each piece and when he cut those pieces loose
that tree swung a lot
looked too exciting for me but he seemed to know the tree wasn't going
anywhere
only the smallest of branches went into the chipper
i got some nice pieces that are aging
On 8/22/2015 8:37 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aug/5047593403.html
>
> Whoever cut that, obviously knows nothing at all about felling a tree.
>
LOL. He said that he had to take the tree down. I bet it was for fear
that if he didn't it wold one day fall on the house.
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:47:31 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 08/22/2015 10:03 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
>...
>
>> don't fell them in the direction they lean or opposite of lean
>> instead as perpendicular as is possible
>...
>
>And if that's the direction of a (valuable) obstacle one does what,
>exactly???
Hire a boom truck and take it down in pieces.
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 13:01:02 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:47:31 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 08/22/2015 10:03 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
>>...
>>
>>> don't fell them in the direction they lean or opposite of lean
>>> instead as perpendicular as is possible
>>...
>>
>>And if that's the direction of a (valuable) obstacle one does what,
>>exactly???
>
>Hire a boom truck and take it down in pieces.
Tree sefvice took down a HUGE maple in the neighbour's back yard
ratlier this year. They did it all with simple rope slings, most of it
coming down in chunks 4 feet long or less. The only power tools they
used were a chain saw and a big chipper out on the street. The cutter
went up the tree, cut off a few branches, tied on with his sling, and
cut off all the branched piece by piece, dropping them with a rope
sling, then went up the tree with spurs and belt,. and cut chunks off
above the belt- pushing them off as he went. Surprising how fast that
tree came down!!!!!