Josepi wrote:
> You could probably get user manuals on a DVD in a 5,280 page format
> covering some of the basics.
>
> MS looking for manual writers with systems over 32GB of RAM memory to
> manage the next generation of manuals.
>
> Yeah, I hate it too but feeling old is natural at your age. Nobody
> wants to use the laptop after a 2 hour shit session on the toilet
> where most of the learning is done.
>
>
Not only are you an idiot, but you're - well... an idiot.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Apr 16, 11:33=A0pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is what I tried and it works:
> Got that advice on another NG.
Actually, Mike M. suggested it several posts ago.
And, considering the efforts made to come to your aid, the comment "
Got that advice on another NG." was hardly necessary or helpful.
Indeed it was rather rude. Especially given the suggestion by Mike M a
dozen posts back. Hurumpf!
Max wrote:
> This is what I tried and it works:
>
> Highlight the first message.
> Holding the shift key, scroll down to the last message and highlight
> it. Hit the delete key ON the keyboard.
> Voila!! No messages.
>
> Got that advice on another NG.
> Thanks folks.
>
> Max
Holy cow Max - not to seem rude, but you are just now discovering this?
Sorry - I for one, went way beyond this fundamental simply because it's been
around for decades - or nearly. I assumed you were asking something more
complex.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Phil Kangas wrote:
>
> Yeah, they sure buried that dvorak keyboard layout
> pretty deep!
> Considering the advancement in technology why is
> the
> qwerty layout still in existence? Stupid if you
> ask me.....
That's easy - because so many people are so used to QWERTY. It's not really
stupid at all - there was a very real reason for that layout originally.
Once it becomes the standard and so many people are so familiar with it,
it's only logical that it will take time to displace it.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Max" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
(other than one at a time)
Thanks,
Max
And, in Live Mail, looking at the messages in the news groups I am finding
that if I sort the messages other than by the "Sent" column you cannot open
the original thread to see all the posts below it. Any one else see this?
Max wrote:
>
> I'm with you. I recently bought a smart phone. Instructions, such as
> they are, are available.......online............... or by
> purchase........through an 800 number. WTF?
>
> Max.......mumbling.......
Huh??? Never heard of such a thing Max. Purchasing instructions via an 800
number? Maybe a 900 number, but that's a completely different thing...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"k-nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/15/2011 4:27 PM, Max wrote:
>> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
>> (other than one at a time)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Max
> I don't no how it is handled in live mail, but you can not delete
> newsgroup messages from the newsserver. ie that may appear to be gone in
> the newsreader, but they will be on the server nearly forever. For a
> newreader/email program like Thunderbird, you can adjust the built in
> fiters to see only unread. so you only see the new messages.
I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
headers most of which I've already read.
I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
Mail.
Max
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:41:42 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"k-nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On 4/15/2011 4:27 PM, Max wrote:
>>>> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
>>>> (other than one at a time)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Max
>>> I don't no how it is handled in live mail, but you can not delete
>>> newsgroup messages from the newsserver. ie that may appear to be gone in
>>> the newsreader, but they will be on the server nearly forever. For a
>>> newreader/email program like Thunderbird, you can adjust the built in
>>> fiters to see only unread. so you only see the new messages.
>>
>>
>>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
>>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
>>headers most of which I've already read.
>>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
>>Mail.
>
> Can't you sort by date and delete all before some date/time?
Nope. Don't work.
But thanks.
Max
"Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote
> "Max" wrote:
>>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
>>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
>>headers most of which I've already read.
>>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
>>Mail.
>>
>>Max
> Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
> item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
> range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I don't
> use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still using Agent 2
> and Thunderbird.
>
> Mike M
Don't work. :-(
Max
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:32:05 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:41:42 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"k-nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On 4/15/2011 4:27 PM, Max wrote:
>>>>>> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
>>>>>> (other than one at a time)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Max
>>>>> I don't no how it is handled in live mail, but you can not delete
>>>>> newsgroup messages from the newsserver. ie that may appear to be gone
>>>>> in
>>>>> the newsreader, but they will be on the server nearly forever. For a
>>>>> newreader/email program like Thunderbird, you can adjust the built in
>>>>> fiters to see only unread. so you only see the new messages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
>>>>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>>>When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
>>>>headers most of which I've already read.
>>>>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
>>>>Mail.
>>>
>>> Can't you sort by date and delete all before some date/time?
>>
>>
>>Nope. Don't work.
>
> Mark as read instead of delete? Get a better NNTP client?
Yep!!
On 04/16/2011 06:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:33:35 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> "Mike M"<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> "Max" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I
>>>>>> read newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>>>>> When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300
>>>>>> message headers most of which I've already read.
>>>>>> I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max
>>>>> Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
>>>>> item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
>>>>> range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I
>>>>> don't use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still
>>>>> using Agent 2 and Thunderbird.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike M
>>>>
>>>> Don't work. :-(
>>>
>>> On the list of newsgroups on the left, right click the newsgroup and
>>> select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click "view" in the menu
>>> bar, then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read Messages".
>>>
>>> There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up multiple newsgroups in a
>>> single step.
>>
>> There's not a way to do what he's asking. He's asking how to keep the two
>> computers in sync and there is no way to do that with different newsreader
>> instances, and different stores. The only way he could do it is if he could
>> configure his laptop to uase his desktop store location, but that would only
>> work if they had acess to each other - if even then. There's just no
>> solution to his problem since the record of what you've read is local to
>> your machine.
>
> Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
> newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
...and you could do that with dropbox among others.
https://www.dropbox.com/
"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 04/16/2011 06:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:33:35 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike M"<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Max" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I
>>>>>>> read newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>>>>>> When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300
>>>>>>> message headers most of which I've already read.
>>>>>>> I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from
>>>>>>> Windows Live Mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>> Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
>>>>>> item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
>>>>>> range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I
>>>>>> don't use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still
>>>>>> using Agent 2 and Thunderbird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike M
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't work. :-(
>>>>
>>>> On the list of newsgroups on the left, right click the newsgroup and
>>>> select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click "view" in the menu
>>>> bar, then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read Messages".
>>>>
>>>> There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up multiple newsgroups in a
>>>> single step.
>>>
>>> There's not a way to do what he's asking. He's asking how to keep the
>>> two
>>> computers in sync and there is no way to do that with different
>>> newsreader
>>> instances, and different stores. The only way he could do it is if he
>>> could
>>> configure his laptop to uase his desktop store location, but that would
>>> only
>>> work if they had acess to each other - if even then. There's just no
>>> solution to his problem since the record of what you've read is local to
>>> your machine.
>>
>> Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
>> newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
>
> ...and you could do that with dropbox among others.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/
>
Hmm. Very interesting.
Thanks.
Max
"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 04/16/2011 06:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
>> newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
>
> ...and you could do that with dropbox among others.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/
>
>
dropbox gives you a 2 Gig cloud sharing account.
Sugarsync offers a similar service. Their free account is 5 GB.
<https://www.sugarsync.com/>
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Max wrote:
>> This is what I tried and it works:
>>
>> Highlight the first message.
>> Holding the shift key, scroll down to the last message and highlight
>> it. Hit the delete key ON the keyboard.
>> Voila!! No messages.
>>
>> Got that advice on another NG.
>> Thanks folks.
>>
>> Max
>
> Holy cow Max - not to seem rude, but you are just now discovering this?
> Sorry - I for one, went way beyond this fundamental simply because it's
> been around for decades - or nearly. I assumed you were asking something
> more complex.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
>
Perdoname por favor, amigo. or pardonnez-moi, bon ami.
But I have not the bits and bytes skills that most folks here have acquired.
Um............decades? How long has Windows Live Mail been around
...............and why have I only begun using it with my last purchase of a
computer? Common sense doesn't always apply when you're using Microsoft.
(or so I've been told.)
I ass-u-me-d that the same methods that were operative in Outlook Express
would be applicable in Windows Live Mail.
Such is not the case. The "select all" and then the "delete" on the drop
down menu isn't the same in both. I so seldom use the delete *KEY* that It
just didn't occur to me that it would be a cure-all.
But I'm encouraged to keep asking questions here because of the responses.
Thanks,
Max
"Hoosierpopi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1d387210-f517-4608-aba7-a076b4b32f1a@dr5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 16, 11:33 pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is what I tried and it works:
> Got that advice on another NG.
>Actually, Mike M. suggested it several posts ago.
>And, considering the efforts made to come to your aid, the comment "
>Got that advice on another NG." was hardly necessary or helpful.
>Indeed it was rather rude. Especially given the suggestion by Mike M a
>dozen posts back. Hurumpf!
Ack! I've commited a genuine faux pas.
It did come across as a bit disdainful...huh?
But I apologized to -MIKE-
I think I misunderstood him. I was thinking he meant to select all and
then *click* on delete (which doesn't appear on that particular menu)
You have to use the delete *KEY* on the keyboard.
But all's well that ends well and I appreciate all the comments and help.
Max
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>
> I just installed Windows Live Mail also and am having to learn the my way
> around. I don't recall Outlook Express needing to be improved and yet
> here we are. ;~(
It took me awhile to figure out how to killfile in MS's latest offering.
You right click on the offending message header, then go to Junk E-mail.
Click that and look at the menu. Click on Add To Blocked Senders List.
Thee is an obsession with hiding everything. I needed the paint program and
could not find it anywhere. I did a search for it and it popped up. What
is the logic behind hiding everything? Microsoft has a long term policy of
dumbing down every version of its software.
"Mike Marlow" wrote
> Max wrote:
I'm encouraged to keep asking questions here because of the
>> responses. Thanks,
>>
>
> I wasn't trying to put you on the spot Max, as much as I was trying to
> excuse my own mistake of seeing your problem incorrectly.
>
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
>
I appreciate all the input I can get. I'm a "babe in the woods" when it
comes to computers. ;-)
Max
"Leon" wrote
> "Max" wrote
> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
> (other than one at a time)
>
> Thanks,
> Max
>
> This is probably what you are looking for, similar to Outlook Express
>
> Click on the Newsgroups icon, bottom left, so that your news group shows.
> At the top of the window, click the Folders tab.
> Click the Message Rules tab on the right.
> You then get a window that is very similar if not exactly like the one
> that Outlook Express has.
>
> I just installed Windows Live Mail also and am having to learn the my way
> around. I don't recall Outlook Express needing to be improved and yet
> here we are. ;~(
Thanks, Leon.
The method that has proved to work well is:
"Select" the first message.
Holding the shift key down, scroll down and select the last message. All
messages will be highlighted.
press the delete *key*.
Voila!! All messages disappear. Miraculous!! LOL
Max
"Lee Michaels" wrote
>It took me awhile to figure out how to killfile in MS's latest offering.
> You right click on the offending message header, then go to Junk E-mail.
> Click that and look at the menu. Click on Add To Blocked Senders List.
>
> Thee is an obsession with hiding everything. I needed the paint program
> and could not find it anywhere. I did a search for it and it popped up.
> What is the logic behind hiding everything? Microsoft has a long term
> policy of dumbing down every version of its software.
Just as it is in any bureaucracy the software writers at MS feel a need to
justify their existence so they make changes whether they're needed or not.
;-)
Max
"Max" wrote
> "Lee Michaels" wrote
>
> >It took me awhile to figure out how to killfile in MS's latest offering.
>> You right click on the offending message header, then go to Junk E-mail.
>> Click that and look at the menu. Click on Add To Blocked Senders List.
>>
>> Thee is an obsession with hiding everything. I needed the paint program
>> and could not find it anywhere. I did a search for it and it popped up.
>> What is the logic behind hiding everything? Microsoft has a long term
>> policy of dumbing down every version of its software.
>
> Just as it is in any bureaucracy the software writers at MS feel a need to
> justify their existence so they make changes whether they're needed or
> not. ;-)
>----
It has always been my theory that software geeks are socially maladjusted
individuals who can't get laid. So they write this nightmarish software to
make normal people's lives a living hell. As a geek revenge thing.
The killfile thing I mention above came about not because I figured it out
from a killfile or newsgroup perspective. I kept getting e-mails with SPAM
in the header. And often they were from friends. I even got the SPAM
designation from e-mails I sent to myself from another computer. It was
disconcerting to get important e-mail with the SPAM designation.
Particularly if I archived them.
When I came across that Junk E-mail thing, it all made sense. I looked up
kilfiles, etc in help. Nothing. Apparently nobody at MS knows about or
acknowledges the existence of killfiles. It probably would cut into sales of
Bing advertising. I found it as a side note in a forum messages somewhere.
The message was referring to the difference between Vista and Windows7 for
killfiling. Nothing on the subject was available from Microsoft.
The same with the paint program. There was no menu choice. It pops up if
you search for it. There are a number of programs I can't get to in W7. So
I attach them to the task bar. There are a number of functions that I can't
access in the menus. I was able to find them and add the function as an
icon someplace.
This whole idea that you have hidden function is absurd. Why should you
hide functions in the program? What purpose does it serve? It just pisses
people off. I read someplace that some poor little whiners were upset that
the operating system was "too complicated". No MS brags about that many
functions are hidden. The make it sound like a good thing. If it is so
good, why don't they mention it in the help files? Or make it easier to find
the hidden functions? Why can't I find it our from MS themselves?
I know that I am a dinosaur. I remember manuals. Remember those books that
came with the software. I not only read those things, but I bought
additional manuals. Often much better than the MS manuals. There I go
showing my age again. I actually can and do READ!
<hanging my head in shame>
</end of rant>
"Lee Michaels" wrote
> It has always been my theory that software geeks are socially maladjusted
> individuals who can't get laid. So they write this nightmarish software
> to make normal people's lives a living hell. As a geek revenge thing.
>
> The killfile thing I mention above came about not because I figured it out
> from a killfile or newsgroup perspective. I kept getting e-mails with SPAM
> in the header. And often they were from friends. I even got the SPAM
> designation from e-mails I sent to myself from another computer. It was
> disconcerting to get important e-mail with the SPAM designation.
> Particularly if I archived them.
>
> When I came across that Junk E-mail thing, it all made sense. I looked up
> kilfiles, etc in help. Nothing. Apparently nobody at MS knows about or
> acknowledges the existence of killfiles. It probably would cut into sales
> of Bing advertising. I found it as a side note in a forum messages
> somewhere. The message was referring to the difference between Vista and
> Windows7 for killfiling. Nothing on the subject was available from
> Microsoft.
>
> The same with the paint program. There was no menu choice. It pops up if
> you search for it. There are a number of programs I can't get to in W7.
> So I attach them to the task bar. There are a number of functions that I
> can't access in the menus. I was able to find them and add the function
> as an icon someplace.
>
> This whole idea that you have hidden function is absurd. Why should you
> hide functions in the program? What purpose does it serve? It just pisses
> people off. I read someplace that some poor little whiners were upset
> that the operating system was "too complicated". No MS brags about that
> many functions are hidden. The make it sound like a good thing. If it is
> so good, why don't they mention it in the help files? Or make it easier to
> find the hidden functions? Why can't I find it our from MS themselves?
>
> I know that I am a dinosaur. I remember manuals. Remember those books
> that came with the software. I not only read those things, but I bought
> additional manuals. Often much better than the MS manuals. There I go
> showing my age again. I actually can and do READ!
>
> <hanging my head in shame>
>
> </end of rant>
I'm with you. I recently bought a smart phone. Instructions, such as they
are, are available.......online............... or by purchase........through
an 800 number. WTF?
Max.......mumbling.......
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8bf3489e-970b-44fb-b7d1-2b53a883f0cd@j35g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 19, 1:20 am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Max wrote:
>
> > I'm with you. I recently bought a smart phone. Instructions, such as
> > they are, are available.......online............... or by
> > purchase........through an 800 number. WTF?
>
> > Max.......mumbling.......
>
> Huh??? Never heard of such a thing Max. Purchasing instructions via an 800
> number? Maybe a 900 number, but that's a completely different thing...
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
>That Brandi girl at the 900 number knows absolutely nothing about
>software, she keeps trying to change the subject....
LOL.
I'm just too cheap to try dialing 900.
Max
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:52:06 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 19, 1:20Â am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> Max wrote:
>>
>> > I'm with you. I recently bought a smart phone. Â Instructions, such as
>> > they are, are available.......online............... or by
>> > purchase........through an 800 number. Â WTF?
>>
>> > Max.......mumbling.......
>>
>> Huh??? Never heard of such a thing Max. Â Purchasing instructions via an 800
>> number? Â Maybe a 900 number, but that's a completely different thing...
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> [email protected]
>
>That Brandi girl at the 900 number knows absolutely nothing about
>software, she keeps trying to change the subject....
Shall I say "Give me your CNC machine or I'm tellin' Angela?"
--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air...
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
On Apr 19, 1:20=A0am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Max wrote:
>
> > I'm with you. I recently bought a smart phone. =A0Instructions, such as
> > they are, are available.......online............... or by
> > purchase........through an 800 number. =A0WTF?
>
> > Max.......mumbling.......
>
> Huh??? Never heard of such a thing Max. =A0Purchasing instructions via an=
800
> number? =A0Maybe a 900 number, but that's a completely different thing...
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
That Brandi girl at the 900 number knows absolutely nothing about
software, she keeps trying to change the subject....
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:41:42 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"k-nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/15/2011 4:27 PM, Max wrote:
>>> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
>>> (other than one at a time)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Max
>> I don't no how it is handled in live mail, but you can not delete
>> newsgroup messages from the newsserver. ie that may appear to be gone in
>> the newsreader, but they will be on the server nearly forever. For a
>> newreader/email program like Thunderbird, you can adjust the built in
>> fiters to see only unread. so you only see the new messages.
>
>
>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
>headers most of which I've already read.
>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
>Mail.
>
>Max
Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I don't
use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still using Agent 2
and Thunderbird.
Mike M
You could probably get user manuals on a DVD in a 5,280 page format covering
some of the basics.
MS looking for manual writers with systems over 32GB of RAM memory to manage
the next generation of manuals.
Yeah, I hate it too but feeling old is natural at your age. Nobody wants to
use the laptop after a 2 hour shit session on the toilet where most of the
learning is done.
LOL
------------------
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
It has always been my theory that software geeks are socially maladjusted
individuals who can't get laid. So they write this nightmarish software to
make normal people's lives a living hell. As a geek revenge thing.
The killfile thing I mention above came about not because I figured it out
from a killfile or newsgroup perspective. I kept getting e-mails with SPAM
in the header. And often they were from friends. I even got the SPAM
designation from e-mails I sent to myself from another computer. It was
disconcerting to get important e-mail with the SPAM designation.
Particularly if I archived them.
When I came across that Junk E-mail thing, it all made sense. I looked up
kilfiles, etc in help. Nothing. Apparently nobody at MS knows about or
acknowledges the existence of killfiles. It probably would cut into sales of
Bing advertising. I found it as a side note in a forum messages somewhere.
The message was referring to the difference between Vista and Windows7 for
killfiling. Nothing on the subject was available from Microsoft.
The same with the paint program. There was no menu choice. It pops up if
you search for it. There are a number of programs I can't get to in W7. So
I attach them to the task bar. There are a number of functions that I can't
access in the menus. I was able to find them and add the function as an
icon someplace.
This whole idea that you have hidden function is absurd. Why should you
hide functions in the program? What purpose does it serve? It just pisses
people off. I read someplace that some poor little whiners were upset that
the operating system was "too complicated". No MS brags about that many
functions are hidden. The make it sound like a good thing. If it is so
good, why don't they mention it in the help files? Or make it easier to find
the hidden functions? Why can't I find it our from MS themselves?
I know that I am a dinosaur. I remember manuals. Remember those books that
came with the software. I not only read those things, but I bought
additional manuals. Often much better than the MS manuals. There I go
showing my age again. I actually can and do READ!
<hanging my head in shame>
</end of rant>
MS wants people to top-post as a more reasonable method to keep the
attribution lines with the text, so people can actually understand who wrote
what, without special readers that make a complete mess and argument
confusion. This is the way of the future and MS knows it and many times sets
it.
You may notice how nicely the text flows here, how easy it is to tell who
wrote it and how any comments referenced may be read like any formal
business document would.
The other important point is how polite top-posting people are compared to
other method users.
Have a nice day!
-----------
"Morgans" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
I was formerly an OE user for newsgroups, and despite people saying what a
pile of crap outlook was, I liked it. It did everything I wanted, and
easily.
Now, stuck with live mail, it seems.
The things I can't get used to is the lack of marking lines of previous
messages with a "<", but most of all I miss the "next unread message"
selection.
Is that available somewhere that I have not yet discovered?
-- Jim in NC
-------------
"Max" wrote
I ass-u-me-d that the same methods that were operative in Outlook Express
would be applicable in Windows Live Mail.
Such is not the case. The "select all" and then the "delete" on the drop
down menu isn't the same in both. I so seldom use the delete *KEY* that It
just didn't occur to me that it would be a cure-all.
But I'm encouraged to keep asking questions here because of the responses.
Thanks,
"Max" wrote
I ass-u-me-d that the same methods that were operative in Outlook Express
would be applicable in Windows Live Mail.
Such is not the case. The "select all" and then the "delete" on the drop
down menu isn't the same in both. I so seldom use the delete *KEY* that It
just didn't occur to me that it would be a cure-all.
But I'm encouraged to keep asking questions here because of the responses.
Thanks,
*********************************
I was formerly an OE user for newsgroups, and despite people saying what a
pile of crap outlook was, I liked it. It did everything I wanted, and
easily.
Now, stuck with live mail, it seems.
The things I can't get used to is the lack of marking lines of previous
messages with a "<", but most of all I miss the "next unread message"
selection.
Is that available somewhere that I have not yet discovered?
-- Jim in NC
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
> (other than one at a time)
>
> Thanks,
> Max
You don't.
Go to the VIEW menu and the SHOW AND HIDE and select HIDE READ MESSAGES and
you won't see them again.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > "Max" wrote:
>
> >>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
> >>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
> >>When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
> >>headers most of which I've already read.
> >>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
> >>Mail.
> >>
> >>Max
> > Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
> > item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
> > range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I don't
> > use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still using Agent 2
> > and Thunderbird.
> >
> > Mike M
>
> Don't work. :-(
On the list of newsgroups on the left, right click the newsgroup and
select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click "view" in the menu bar,
then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read Messages".
There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up multiple newsgroups in a
single step.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article
> > <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote
> >>
> >> > "Max" wrote:
> >>
> >> >>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows
> >> >>7 on a laptop. I read
> >> >>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the
> >> >>messages daily.
> >> >>When I use the laptop (about once every 2
> >> >>weeks) there are 300 message
> >> >>headers most of which I've already read.
> >> >>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete
> >> >>all of them from Windows Live
> >> >>Mail.
> >> >>
> >> >>Max
> >> > Most windows programs will let you select a
> >> > range by clicking on one
> >> > item the hold down the shift key and select
> >> > the other end of the
> >> > range. You can select individual items by
> >> > holding down Ctrl. I don't
> >> > use Windows Live so I have no idea how it
> >> > works. Still using Agent 2
> >> > and Thunderbird.
> >> >
> >> > Mike M
> >>
> >> Don't work. :-(
> >
> > On the list of newsgroups on the left, right
> > click the newsgroup and
> > select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click
> > "view" in the menu bar,
> > then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read
> > Messages".
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up
> > multiple newsgroups in a
> > single step.
> >
>
> In OE6:
> In the list of groups on the left, right click on
> one, properties, local file,
> delete, ok, compact, ok.
Windows Live Mail is not derived from Outlook Express.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 04/16/2011 06:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:33:35 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> J. Clarke wrote:
> >>> In article<[email protected]>,
> >>> [email protected] says...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Mike M"<[email protected]> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>> "Max" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I
> >>>>>> read newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
> >>>>>> When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300
> >>>>>> message headers most of which I've already read.
> >>>>>> I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from
> >>>>>> Windows Live Mail.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Max
> >>>>> Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
> >>>>> item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
> >>>>> range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I
> >>>>> don't use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still
> >>>>> using Agent 2 and Thunderbird.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike M
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't work. :-(
> >>>
> >>> On the list of newsgroups on the left, right click the newsgroup and
> >>> select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click "view" in the menu
> >>> bar, then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read Messages".
> >>>
> >>> There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up multiple newsgroups in a
> >>> single step.
> >>
> >> There's not a way to do what he's asking. He's asking how to keep the two
> >> computers in sync and there is no way to do that with different newsreader
> >> instances, and different stores. The only way he could do it is if he could
> >> configure his laptop to uase his desktop store location, but that would only
> >> work if they had acess to each other - if even then. There's just no
> >> solution to his problem since the record of what you've read is local to
> >> your machine.
> >
> > Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
> > newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
>
> ...and you could do that with dropbox among others.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/
Easy way to do it is to just rdesktop from one to the other.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
> dot net> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
> >>
> >> I just installed Windows Live Mail also and am
> >> having to learn the my way around. I don't
> >> recall Outlook Express needing to be improved
> >> and yet here we are. ;~(
> > It took me awhile to figure out how to killfile
> > in MS's latest offering. You right click on the
> > offending message header, then go to Junk
> > E-mail. Click that and look at the menu. Click
> > on Add To Blocked Senders List.
> >
> > Thee is an obsession with hiding everything. I
> > needed the paint program and could not find it
> > anywhere. I did a search for it and it popped
> > up. What is the logic behind hiding everything?
> > Microsoft has a long term policy of dumbing down
> > every version of its software.
> >
>
> Yeah, they sure buried that dvorak keyboard layout
> pretty deep!
Entering "dvorak" into help got me there in about six clicks.
> Considering the advancement in technology why is
> the
> qwerty layout still in existence? Stupid if you
> ask me.....
Because legions of touch-typists know QWERTY and tests have shown that
Dvorak does not confer sufficient benefits to justify the cost of
retraining.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> "Max" wrote
>
> I ass-u-me-d that the same methods that were operative in Outlook Express
> would be applicable in Windows Live Mail.
> Such is not the case. The "select all" and then the "delete" on the drop
> down menu isn't the same in both. I so seldom use the delete *KEY* that It
> just didn't occur to me that it would be a cure-all.
>
> But I'm encouraged to keep asking questions here because of the responses.
> Thanks,
>
> *********************************
>
> I was formerly an OE user for newsgroups, and despite people saying what a
> pile of crap outlook was, I liked it. It did everything I wanted, and
> easily.
>
> Now, stuck with live mail, it seems.
> The things I can't get used to is the lack of marking lines of previous
> messages with a "<", but most of all I miss the "next unread message"
> selection.
>
> Is that available somewhere that I have not yet discovered?
It is a capability that was removed in version 15 of Windows Live Mail,
for some reason known only to Microsoft, and there's no way to fix it.
Your best bet is to go with something else. Removing useful features
seems to be the new watchword at Microsoft. Seems like a dumb strategy
to me, but they're making billions and I'm not so clearly they know
something I don't.
"Max" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
(other than one at a time)
Thanks,
Max
This is probably what you are looking for, similar to Outlook Express
Click on the Newsgroups icon, bottom left, so that your news group shows.
At the top of the window, click the Folders tab.
Click the Message Rules tab on the right.
You then get a window that is very similar if not exactly like the one that
Outlook Express has.
I just installed Windows Live Mail also and am having to learn the my way
around. I don't recall Outlook Express needing to be improved and yet here
we are. ;~(
Works just fine here.
----------------------
Don't work. :-(
--------------------
> Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
> item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
> range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I don't
> use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still using Agent 2
> and Thunderbird.
>
> Mike M
To delete them you select them in a group using the MS Windows technique,
same as any other software written correctly for Windows.
- To select one item...click on it
- To select multiple items hold down your control key and click on any item
you want selected
- To select a contiguous group of items select (see top method) the first or
last item then go to the other end of the list and hold down the shift key
while you click on the item at the other end.
After selecting one, random, or grouped items hit the delete key or right
click on your mouse and select delete off the pull-down menu.
----------------------
"Max" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
(other than one at a time)
Thanks,
Max
J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>> "Max" wrote:
>>
>>>> I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I
>>>> read newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>>> When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300
>>>> message headers most of which I've already read.
>>>> I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from
>>>> Windows Live Mail.
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>> Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
>>> item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
>>> range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I
>>> don't use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still
>>> using Agent 2 and Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>
>> Don't work. :-(
>
> On the list of newsgroups on the left, right click the newsgroup and
> select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click "view" in the menu
> bar, then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read Messages".
>
> There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up multiple newsgroups in a
> single step.
There's not a way to do what he's asking. He's asking how to keep the two
computers in sync and there is no way to do that with different newsreader
instances, and different stores. The only way he could do it is if he could
configure his laptop to uase his desktop store location, but that would only
work if they had acess to each other - if even then. There's just no
solution to his problem since the record of what you've read is local to
your machine.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:33:35 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Phil Kangas wrote:
>
>>
>> The qwerty layout was intended to slow down the
>> fast typists
>> because the keys would jam up.
>
>Not to slow down the typist, but to help the typewriter keep up with the
>fast typists.
It was developed to speed typing by putting the adjacent characters in
most common words to alternate hands while typing, I believe. (see
"letter pair frequency" wiki)
>> And that layout
>> also aggravates
>> carpal tunnel syndrome, that's why I switched. The
>> dvorak
>> layout is a quantum leap forward in ease of use,
>> speed
>> and accuracy.
>
>Carpal tunnel is more about the angle of your wrists than the style of the
>keyboard.
Mice increase that wrong angle and carpal nerve scraping. I switched
to a Logitech Trackman portable and found that my beginnings of CTS
disappeared. Why they didn't put the feet under the keyboard on the
-front- instead of the back, I'll never know. With them up, the
stresses are even worse.
--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air...
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
> (other than one at a time)
>
> Thanks,
> Max
You don't.
Go to the VIEW menu and the SHOW AND HIDE and select HIDE READ MESSAGES and
you won't see them again.
Of course the prior comments will hide read messages. But the unread
messages will still display. On my Outlook Live screen, there is a very
small icon in the upper left corner, way at the top, which looks like a pair
of envelopes. If you cursor over that icon it should say "Mark all read".
When I finish a session and have read what I want, I click on that icon and
all the messages become 'read'. My view screen is set up to show only unread
messages. My next session shows only new messages. Hope this helps.
TinWoodsmn
Phil Kangas wrote:
>
> The qwerty layout was intended to slow down the
> fast typists
> because the keys would jam up.
Not to slow down the typist, but to help the typewriter keep up with the
fast typists.
> And that layout
> also aggravates
> carpal tunnel syndrome, that's why I switched. The
> dvorak
> layout is a quantum leap forward in ease of use,
> speed
> and accuracy.
Carpal tunnel is more about the angle of your wrists than the style of the
keyboard.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Max wrote:
> Perdoname por favor, amigo. or pardonnez-moi, bon ami.
> But I have not the bits and bytes skills that most folks here have
> acquired. Um............decades? How long has Windows Live Mail been
> around ...............and why have I only begun using it with my last
> purchase of a computer? Common sense doesn't always apply when
> you're using Microsoft. (or so I've been told.)
> I ass-u-me-d that the same methods that were operative in Outlook
> Express would be applicable in Windows Live Mail.
> Such is not the case. The "select all" and then the "delete" on the
> drop down menu isn't the same in both. I so seldom use the delete
> *KEY* that It just didn't occur to me that it would be a cure-all.
>
> But I'm encouraged to keep asking questions here because of the
> responses. Thanks,
>
I wasn't trying to put you on the spot Max, as much as I was trying to
excuse my own mistake of seeing your problem incorrectly.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:41:42 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"k-nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/15/2011 4:27 PM, Max wrote:
>>> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
>>> (other than one at a time)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Max
>> I don't no how it is handled in live mail, but you can not delete
>> newsgroup messages from the newsserver. ie that may appear to be gone in
>> the newsreader, but they will be on the server nearly forever. For a
>> newreader/email program like Thunderbird, you can adjust the built in
>> fiters to see only unread. so you only see the new messages.
>
>
>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
>headers most of which I've already read.
>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
>Mail.
Can't you sort by date and delete all before some date/time?
On 4/15/2011 4:27 PM, Max wrote:
> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
> (other than one at a time)
>
> Thanks,
> Max
I don't no how it is handled in live mail, but you can not delete
newsgroup messages from the newsserver. ie that may appear to be gone in
the newsreader, but they will be on the server nearly forever. For a
newreader/email program like Thunderbird, you can adjust the built in
fiters to see only unread. so you only see the new messages.
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:42:58 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>
>"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 04/16/2011 06:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
>>> newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
>>
>> ...and you could do that with dropbox among others.
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/
>>
>>
>dropbox gives you a 2 Gig cloud sharing account.
>
>Sugarsync offers a similar service. Their free account is 5 GB.
>
><https://www.sugarsync.com/>
How secure are these services? Would you store _your_ tax data there?
--
If only he'd wash his neck, I'd wring it.
-- John Sparrow
On 04/17/2011 07:30 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:42:58 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
> <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Doug Winterburn"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 04/16/2011 06:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
>>>> newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
>>>
>>> ...and you could do that with dropbox among others.
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/
>>>
>>>
>> dropbox gives you a 2 Gig cloud sharing account.
>>
>> Sugarsync offers a similar service. Their free account is 5 GB.
>>
>> <https://www.sugarsync.com/>
>
> How secure are these services? Would you store _your_ tax data there?
>
Hell no! I don't even like storing my tax data with the IRS.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 04/17/2011 07:30 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:42:58 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
> > <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Doug Winterburn"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>> On 04/16/2011 06:56 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
> >>>> newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
> >>>
> >>> ...and you could do that with dropbox among others.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >> dropbox gives you a 2 Gig cloud sharing account.
> >>
> >> Sugarsync offers a similar service. Their free account is 5 GB.
> >>
> >> <https://www.sugarsync.com/>
> >
> > How secure are these services? Would you store _your_ tax data there?
> >
> Hell no! I don't even like storing my tax data with the IRS.
Encrypt it before you store it.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> > "Max" wrote:
>>
>> >>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows
>> >>7 on a laptop. I read
>> >>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the
>> >>messages daily.
>> >>When I use the laptop (about once every 2
>> >>weeks) there are 300 message
>> >>headers most of which I've already read.
>> >>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete
>> >>all of them from Windows Live
>> >>Mail.
>> >>
>> >>Max
>> > Most windows programs will let you select a
>> > range by clicking on one
>> > item the hold down the shift key and select
>> > the other end of the
>> > range. You can select individual items by
>> > holding down Ctrl. I don't
>> > use Windows Live so I have no idea how it
>> > works. Still using Agent 2
>> > and Thunderbird.
>> >
>> > Mike M
>>
>> Don't work. :-(
>
> On the list of newsgroups on the left, right
> click the newsgroup and
> select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click
> "view" in the menu bar,
> then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read
> Messages".
>
> There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up
> multiple newsgroups in a
> single step.
>
In OE6:
In the list of groups on the left, right click on
one, properties, local file,
delete, ok, compact, ok.
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>>
>> I just installed Windows Live Mail also and am
>> having to learn the my way around. I don't
>> recall Outlook Express needing to be improved
>> and yet here we are. ;~(
> It took me awhile to figure out how to killfile
> in MS's latest offering. You right click on the
> offending message header, then go to Junk
> E-mail. Click that and look at the menu. Click
> on Add To Blocked Senders List.
>
> Thee is an obsession with hiding everything. I
> needed the paint program and could not find it
> anywhere. I did a search for it and it popped
> up. What is the logic behind hiding everything?
> Microsoft has a long term policy of dumbing down
> every version of its software.
>
Yeah, they sure buried that dvorak keyboard layout
pretty deep!
Considering the advancement in technology why is
the
qwerty layout still in existence? Stupid if you
ask me.....
phil
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote
in message
news:[email protected]...
> Phil Kangas wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, they sure buried that dvorak keyboard
>> layout
>> pretty deep!
>> Considering the advancement in technology why
>> is
>> the
>> qwerty layout still in existence? Stupid if you
>> ask me.....
>
> That's easy - because so many people are so used
> to QWERTY. It's not really stupid at all -
> there was a very real reason for that layout
> originally. Once it becomes the standard and so
> many people are so familiar with it, it's only
> logical that it will take time to displace it.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
The qwerty layout was intended to slow down the
fast typists
because the keys would jam up. And that layout
also aggravates
carpal tunnel syndrome, that's why I switched. The
dvorak
layout is a quantum leap forward in ease of use,
speed
and accuracy.
phil k.
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote
in message
news:[email protected]...
> Phil Kangas wrote:
>
>>
>> The qwerty layout was intended to slow down the
>> fast typists
>> because the keys would jam up.
>
> Not to slow down the typist, but to help the
> typewriter keep up with the fast typists.
>
>
>> And that layout
>> also aggravates
>> carpal tunnel syndrome, that's why I switched.
>> The
>> dvorak
>> layout is a quantum leap forward in ease of
>> use,
>> speed
>> and accuracy.
>
> Carpal tunnel is more about the angle of your
> wrists than the style of the keyboard.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
Awl riight..... here you go:
http://dvorak-keyboards.com/
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 08:33:35 -0400, "Mike
> Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Phil Kangas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The qwerty layout was intended to slow down
>>> the
>>> fast typists
>>> because the keys would jam up.
>>
>>Not to slow down the typist, but to help the
>>typewriter keep up with the
>>fast typists.
>
> It was developed to speed typing by putting the
> adjacent characters in
> most common words to alternate hands while
> typing, I believe. (see
> "letter pair frequency" wiki)
>
>
>>> And that layout
>>> also aggravates
>>> carpal tunnel syndrome, that's why I switched.
>>> The
>>> dvorak
>>> layout is a quantum leap forward in ease of
>>> use,
>>> speed
>>> and accuracy.
>>
>>Carpal tunnel is more about the angle of your
>>wrists than the style of the
>>keyboard.
>
> Mice increase that wrong angle and carpal nerve
> scraping. I switched
> to a Logitech Trackman portable and found that
> my beginnings of CTS
> disappeared. Why they didn't put the feet under
> the keyboard on the
> -front- instead of the back, I'll never know.
> With them up, the
> stresses are even worse.
>
The keyboard that most now use was designed in
1873 when the average typist could type faster
than the early mechanical typewriters could
reliably respond. As a result, the typewriter
keyboard was deliberately designed for the machine's
benefit, to reduce jams. The majority of the keys
were simply designed by chance, according to the
needs of the machine. Unfortunately, the people
using the machines were not considered, resulting
in a very inefficient and tiring keyboard. In
1873, the science of ergonomics and time motion
study was still several years into the future.
Highlight a message.
Hit control A (that will highlight all)
Hit control Q (that will set them to "all read")
Ed
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
> (other than one at a time)
>
> Thanks,
> Max
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:33:35 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>J. Clarke wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>>> "Max" wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I
>>>>> read newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>>>> When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300
>>>>> message headers most of which I've already read.
>>>>> I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from
>>>>> Windows Live Mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Max
>>>> Most windows programs will let you select a range by clicking on one
>>>> item the hold down the shift key and select the other end of the
>>>> range. You can select individual items by holding down Ctrl. I
>>>> don't use Windows Live so I have no idea how it works. Still
>>>> using Agent 2 and Thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> Don't work. :-(
>>
>> On the list of newsgroups on the left, right click the newsgroup and
>> select "Catch Up". Step two, at the top, Click "view" in the menu
>> bar, then under "Filter Messages", "Hide Read Messages".
>>
>> There doesn't seem to be any way to catch up multiple newsgroups in a
>> single step.
>
>There's not a way to do what he's asking. He's asking how to keep the two
>computers in sync and there is no way to do that with different newsreader
>instances, and different stores. The only way he could do it is if he could
>configure his laptop to uase his desktop store location, but that would only
>work if they had acess to each other - if even then. There's just no
>solution to his problem since the record of what you've read is local to
>your machine.
Not true. If you carried (or had accessible over the net, perhaps) your
newsrc file, you could keep any number if instances in sync.
On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 01:40:04 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Josepi wrote:
>> You could probably get user manuals on a DVD in a 5,280 page format
>> covering some of the basics.
>>
>> MS looking for manual writers with systems over 32GB of RAM memory to
>> manage the next generation of manuals.
>>
>> Yeah, I hate it too but feeling old is natural at your age. Nobody
>> wants to use the laptop after a 2 hour shit session on the toilet
>> where most of the learning is done.
>>
>>
>
>Not only are you an idiot, but you're - well... an idiot.
Never argue with an idiot, yadda yadda. Filter him, man!
Stop giving the morons airtime, guys.
--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air...
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:32:05 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:41:42 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"k-nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 4/15/2011 4:27 PM, Max wrote:
>>>>> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
>>>>> (other than one at a time)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Max
>>>> I don't no how it is handled in live mail, but you can not delete
>>>> newsgroup messages from the newsserver. ie that may appear to be gone in
>>>> the newsreader, but they will be on the server nearly forever. For a
>>>> newreader/email program like Thunderbird, you can adjust the built in
>>>> fiters to see only unread. so you only see the new messages.
>>>
>>>
>>>I have Windows Vista on a desktop and Windows 7 on a laptop. I read
>>>newsgroups on the desktop and delete the messages daily.
>>>When I use the laptop (about once every 2 weeks) there are 300 message
>>>headers most of which I've already read.
>>>I can't seem to find an easy way to delete all of them from Windows Live
>>>Mail.
>>
>> Can't you sort by date and delete all before some date/time?
>
>
>Nope. Don't work.
Mark as read instead of delete? Get a better NNTP client?
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:19:54 -0700, "Tinwoodsmn" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
>> (other than one at a time)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Max
>
>You don't.
>
>Go to the VIEW menu and the SHOW AND HIDE and select HIDE READ MESSAGES and
>you won't see them again.
I don't like doing that because you lose context, particularly with people who
don't include context or top-post. It's better to just not expand threads
with no new/unread content.
>
>Of course the prior comments will hide read messages. But the unread
>messages will still display. On my Outlook Live screen, there is a very
>small icon in the upper left corner, way at the top, which looks like a pair
>of envelopes. If you cursor over that icon it should say "Mark all read".
>When I finish a session and have read what I want, I click on that icon and
>all the messages become 'read'. My view screen is set up to show only unread
>messages. My next session shows only new messages. Hope this helps.
>
>TinWoodsmn
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Max" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
How do you delete NG messages in Windows Live Mail?
(other than one at a time)
Thanks,
Max
This is probably what you are looking for, similar to Outlook Express
Click on the Newsgroups icon, bottom left, so that your news group shows.
At the top of the window, click the Folders tab.
Click the Message Rules tab on the right.
You then get a window that is very similar if not exactly like the one that
Outlook Express has.
I just installed Windows Live Mail also and am having to learn the my way
around. I don't recall Outlook Express needing to be improved and yet here
we are. ;~(
BTY I just set up a rule deleting anything over 30 days old, worked just
like Outlook Express. Remember that this is a manual task and you have to
select the particular news group you want the rule to apply to.