eHow article:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
was lifted from here:
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
deleted. Lol.
I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
happens.
GarageWoodworks wrote:
> eHow article:
>
> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
> was lifted from here:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>
> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> deleted. Lol.
>
> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> happens.
The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
picture. Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending page.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Dec 23, 7:03 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>
>>>eHow article:
>>
>>>http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>>>My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>>>was lifted from here:
>>
>>>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>>>I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>>>deleted. Lol.
>>
>>>I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>>>happens.
>>
>>The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
>>picture. Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending page.
>>
>>--
>>Jack Novak
>>Buffalo, NY - USA
>>[email protected]
>
>
> No its not a link. It comes from their server.
>
>
>
On second look you're right, although clicking on the thumbnail gives
areference to your page in the "image credit/caption" (see the last line
below).,
Copied from viewing the page source code:
"<div class="thumbnail">
<a rel="thinbox" title="#jsArticleIntroImageCredit"><img
alt="Clamping the Hardwood" title="Clamping the Hardwood"
src="http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/id/m0/wooden-table-top-200X200.jpg" /></a>
<div class="caption">Clamping the Hardwood</div>
<div style="display:none;">
<div id="jsArticleIntroImageCredit">
<div class="ThinboxImageCaption">
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/cherry_top_glueup.jpg"
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
On Dec 23, 10:02=A0pm, J W <n___@n___.invalid> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >eHow article:
>
> > >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > >My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0I=
t
> > >was lifted from here:
>
> > >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > >deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > >happens.
>
> > I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
>
> > "Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com with=
out
> > permission?"
>
> Not that what eHow did was correct, but is there anywhere on
> garagewoodworks that says anything about copyright? =A0I looked all aroun=
d
> and couldn't find any copyright information.
Also see: http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/crlaw.html#A
It's only allowed under what's called "fair use". Non-profit
purposes. The author profits, so "fair use" is out the window.
In article <[email protected]>,
Ralph E Lindberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> Nova wrote:
>>
>> > The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
>> > picture. Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending page.
>>
>> If it were, your advice would have been first class.
>>
>> Every day my server delivers copies of this to requestors around the globe:
>>
>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/SawHorse/SH_QBack.jpg
>>
> How did you rig that little trick. I assume if people view on you
>web-site they get the real image, but via link in someone else's they
>get that.
> I have a friend that has constant issues with people swiping her
>images.
It's fairly easy for a -smart- server to check the 'referrer' field in a
request, and do one thing if the referrer is the same site (i.e. 'yours') as
the object being requested, and do 'something different' if somebody has
embedded a direct link to an 'internal object' of yours in _their_ page
on a different site.
This stops direct linking _only_. Doesn't prevent copying the image out,
storing it elsewhere -- e.g. on =their= server -- and using it.
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:37:59 -0800 (PST), ROYNEU <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Dec 23, 6:37 pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> eHow article:
>>
>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>> was lifted from here:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>> deleted. Lol.
>>
>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>> happens.
>
>I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a large
>publisher that I've run into photos being used without permissions.
>Unfortunately you will find this practice often on University sites.
>Students snag them and post them in articles used for assignments. The
>University doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying the article.
>Having been in the printing trades for many years and working with
>customers who have no clue about this stuff. And, then the anger when
>you tell them they will need a waiver from the author to use the
>material.
If they're used only for assignments, doesn't it fall under the "fair
use" clause?
>Keep after them otherwise they never learn. Although, it will be a
>tough fight for you and can be expensive if lawers are involved.
Patents are the same deal, and much worse.
On Dec 23, 8:08=A0pm, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
> > eHow article:
>
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> > was lifted from here:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > happens.
>
> Hmm - Michael Straessle, the article's 50 year old author, has a BA in
> professional writing from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock and
> claims to work full-time as a writer, which means he's fully aware of US
> copyright law.
yes, I noticed that also. He should have known better. But, did it
anyway thinking that I'm just some saw dusty, goofy dude in a garage
(true, but, I digress) that doesn't know how to use google.
> Mr Straessle says he's a "Teacher and Children's Pastor at Victory
> Fellowship". I wonder if the Victory Fellowship distinguishes itself
> from others by acknowledging only 9 commandments...
Funny. Preach, but no practice...
>
> I'd imagine that your attorney could get his contact information from
> the Alumni Office at the Univ of Arkansas at Little Rock.
Thanks for the tip.
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:10:04 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Dec 23, 11:56 pm, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> > Thanks for the tip.
>>
>> You're welcome - this might be even quicker:
>>
>> Michael A. Straessle
>> 103 Hwy 89 South
>> Mayflower, AR 72106
>> 501-744-8204
>>
>> --
>> Morris Dovey
>> DeSoto Solar
>> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
>
>Holy cow. I'd love to know how you did that.
Iffen it's a book ye want, laddy, try _FIND IT ONLINE: The Complete
Guide to Online Research_ by Alan M. Schlein. 4th edition, 2004.
Other quick sources are www.Google.com & www.Whitepages.com .
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On Dec 23, 7:03=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
> > eHow article:
>
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> > was lifted from here:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > happens.
>
> The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
> picture. =A0Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending p=
age.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
It comes from their server here:
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4798144/123739-main_Full.jpg
It's my property on their server.
In article <[email protected]>, J. Clarke
<[email protected]> wrote:
> J W wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> >
> >> In article
> >> <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb36c@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >> GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> eHow article:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
> >>>
> >>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
> >>> was lifted from here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
> >>>
> >>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> >>> deleted. Lol.
> >>>
> >>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> >>> happens.
> >>
> >> I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
> >>
> >> "Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com
> >> without permission?"
> >
> > Not that what eHow did was correct, but is there anywhere on
> > garagewoodworks that says anything about copyright? I looked all
> > around and couldn't find any copyright information.
>
>
> There doesn't have to be a notice in the US. It is a given that anything
> one does is copyrighted unless one explicitly _waives_ copyright.
Bt unless the copyright is registered, collecting damages is not likely.
In article <[email protected]>, Larry C
<[email protected]> wrote:
> (snip)
> >
> > Bt unless the copyright is registered, collecting damages is not likely.
>
> This kind of stuff really annoys me as well. All he had to do is send a
> quick email asking if he could use the photo because he was writing an
> article and it was a great example, looked perfect. etc. I do not mean to
> mitigate the legality involved but how freakin lazy and rude can you be.
>
> It does question the authenticity of the entire article. Did he write that
> or cut and paste it as well.
Indeed.
There's never an excuse for being rude. (And I say that as someone who
is sometimes deliberately rude.)
On Dec 24, 2:05=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/24/09 12:19 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:37:49 -0800, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> >> eHow article:
>
> >>http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> >> My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0I=
t was
> >> lifted from here:
>
> >>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> >> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> >> deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> >> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what happen=
s.
>
> > I just looked and found two comments from you. =A0I added another :-).
>
> I flagged it. =A0I also tried to comment but it's not showing up.
> Maybe the author turned off comments or something.
>
> (yes, I'm a member)
>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Mike,
I got my kid a 5-piece kit for x-mas (Tama). I might be hitting you
up for tips later next week! :^)
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:15:03 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Dec 23, 8:08 pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>> In article <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >eHow article:
>>
>> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>> >My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>> >was lifted from here:
>>
>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>> >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>> >deleted. Lol.
>>
>> >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>> >happens.
>>
>> They were even stupid enough to display your URL at the bottom of it. Get a
>> screen grab of that quick, before they change it.
>>
>> Then email and phone their ISP to complain. Whois lookup shows their domain
>> registrar is Enom Inc (www.enom.com), but the other whois information is
>> private. I'd start with a telephone complaint to Enom -- I've dealt with them
>> before, and found them to be polite and responsive.
>
>Thanks Doug. I took a screen grab of the screen w/ thumbnail photo
>and with the enlarged photo and url.
>
>I gave the guy an opportunity to contact me, but he deleted my first
>comment and did not contact me as I requested. I flagged the article
>with eHow, but I migt also do as you suggested by contacting their
>ISP.
>
>The funny thing is that if you google the article author, he appears
>to be a 'real' author and has written a couple books. He should have
>known better! This isn't some goof ball college kid that wrote this.
Aha! I have just figured out what's really going on here:
He's a pastor.
He works with God.
God created/owns everything.
This means that your supposed copyright is moot.
Sorry, Charlie. ;)
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dadiOH wrote:
> The difference between registered and unregistered copyrights is that
> you do not need to prove damages with a registered one, only that an
> infringement has occurred. That infringement alone carries hefty
> statutory penalties; any actual damage beyond that amount can also be
> recovered. If unregistered, one has to prove infringement *and*
> monetary damages.
FYI...
http://www.asja.org/pubtips/copyrite.php
PS: even though "copyrights" is misspelled, it's a pretty good article :)
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On Dec 23, 10:02=A0pm, J W <n___@n___.invalid> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >eHow article:
>
> > >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > >My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0I=
t
> > >was lifted from here:
>
> > >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > >deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > >happens.
>
> > I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
>
> > "Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com with=
out
> > permission?"
>
> Not that what eHow did was correct, but is there anywhere on
> garagewoodworks that says anything about copyright? =A0I looked all aroun=
d
> and couldn't find any copyright information.
Doesn't have to say it. It's copyright protected automatically when
published. It's US law. See: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of
1998
On Dec 23, 9:52=A0pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]=
.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >eHow article:
>
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> >My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> >was lifted from here:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> >deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> >happens.
>
> I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
>
> "Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com withou=
t
> permission?"
Lol! Thanks! :^)
On Dec 24, 4:49=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/24/09 3:03 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mike,
>
> > I got my kid a 5-piece kit for x-mas (Tama). =A0I might be hitting you
> > up for tips later next week! =A0 :^)
>
> Nice! =A0 I'd love to help in any way I can.
>
> I have drum tuning info on my site if you want to read up.
>
> --
>
> =A0 -MIKE-
>
> =A0 "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> =A0 =A0 =A0--Elvin Jones =A0(1927-2004)
> =A0 --
> =A0http://mikedrums.com
> =A0 [email protected]
> =A0 ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Ok. Thanks. The guy at the shop said they were pre-tuned, but I
wouldn't know the difference ( I don't think anyway).
I'll give your tuning page a read.
On Dec 23, 7:03=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
> > eHow article:
>
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> > was lifted from here:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > happens.
>
> The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
> picture. =A0Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending p=
age.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
No its not a link. It comes from their server.
On Dec 23, 11:56=A0pm, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
> > Thanks for the tip.
>
> You're welcome - this might be even quicker:
>
> =A0 =A0 Michael A. Straessle
> =A0 =A0 103 Hwy 89 South
> =A0 =A0 Mayflower, AR 72106
> =A0 =A0 501-744-8204
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Holy cow. I'd love to know how you did that.
On Dec 23, 6:37=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> eHow article:
>
> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> was lifted from here:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> happens.
I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a large
publisher that I've run into photos being used without permissions.
Unfortunately you will find this practice often on University sites.
Students snag them and post them in articles used for assignments. The
University doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying the article.
Having been in the printing trades for many years and working with
customers who have no clue about this stuff. And, then the anger when
you tell them they will need a waiver from the author to use the
material.
Keep after them otherwise they never learn. Although, it will be a
tough fight for you and can be expensive if lawers are involved.
Roy
On Dec 25, 3:12=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Dec 25, 9:37=A0am, ROYNEU <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 23, 6:37=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > eHow article:
>
> > >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > > My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0=
It
> > > was lifted from here:
>
> > >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > > I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > > deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > > I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > > happens.
>
> > I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a large
> > publisher that I've run into photos being used without permissions.
> > Unfortunately you will find this practice often on University sites.
> > Students snag them and post them in articles used for assignments. The
> > University doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying the article.
>
> Because it's "Fair Use" this there is no infringement.
>
>
>
> > Having been in the printing trades for many years and working with
> > customers who have no clue about this stuff. And, then the anger when
> > you tell them they will need a waiver from the author to use the
> > material.
>
> > Keep after them otherwise they never learn. Although, it will be a
> > tough fight for you and can be expensive if lawers are involved.
>
> > Roy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The student may not need to pay a fee for use of the image. But it is
still required for them to give credit for the image. But even
publishers sometimes use photos that they have not gotten permission
for. If they can show due diligence in trying to find the owner of the
image the owner can't sue them but only collect the fair fees for use
if noticed.
Roy
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <567635c5-d295-4abb-81d7-7f45ec55ad80@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Dec 23, 10:02=A0pm, J W <n___@n___.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not that what eHow did was correct, but is there anywhere on
>>> garagewoodworks that says anything about copyright? I looked
>>> all around
>>> and couldn't find any copyright information.
>>
>>Doesn't have to say it.
>
> Correct.
>
>> It's copyright protected automatically when published.
>
> Not quite correct. It's copyright protected automatically when
> *created*.
>
Follow up and don't let the a**hole get away with it. Several
years ago, I began to get emails from people telling me a creep in
WI was selling the plans to my Jake's Chair, despite it being
specifically prohibited. I wrote him and a friend spent the $20
to get a copy of "his" plans for me from the eBay site. All the
plans were was a poor quality copy of the drawings I had posted
for the chairs, coupled with a bad photograph of his own copies.
The ass&ole's reply was, "sue me or complain to eBay and I'll tie
you up in court forever." Fortunately, there were enough friends
around that they posted horrible comments about quality and
authenticity on eBay that he gave up, finally.
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On Dec 23, 8:28=A0pm, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:37:49 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >eHow article:
>
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> >My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> >was lifted from here:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> >deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> >happens.
>
> They give the full link to your site and pic, though, Brain. ;)
>
> I see some of my pics in blogs now and again and consider that it
> probably makes my site more popular, so I'm not against it.
>
> --
> REMEMBER: =A0The sooner you fall behind,
> the more time you'll have to catch up!
Still copyright infringement. Still breaking the law. I gain nothing
from my photo being used and he gets paid. No, this is wrong.
A citation under the photo as a photo credit would have been nice.
Most people will never click the photo, thus never see the url.
He is passing it off as his own by doing what he did.
[email protected] (Doug Miller) writes:
>In article <[email protected]>, Sean S <seans_efn_dotorg> wrote:
>
>> One of the many things mod rewrite can do is let you specify files
>>(in this case, jpgs/gifs) that can only be accessed by the home server,
>>and can tell the server what to do when it is accessed remotely. (as
>>well as all sorts of other neat tricks).
>
>Hmmmmm...... I knew mod_rewrite was capable of a lot of things, but I didn't
>know about *that*! Thank you. That gives me a fistful of new ideas...
Hmm indeed. The only way I can see this working is if mod_rewrite looks
at the referrer header and ensures that it is the local site; so absent the
REFERER header being spoofed, it should work.
This will also preclude things like wget, which aren't allowed to specify the
REFERER header[*].
scott
[*] Yeah, it's mispelled in the HTTP RFC too.
(snip)
>
> Bt unless the copyright is registered, collecting damages is not likely.
This kind of stuff really annoys me as well. All he had to do is send a
quick email asking if he could use the photo because he was writing an
article and it was a great example, looked perfect. etc. I do not mean to
mitigate the legality involved but how freakin lazy and rude can you be.
It does question the authenticity of the entire article. Did he write that
or cut and paste it as well.
Larry C
"GarageWoodworks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Mike,
I got my kid a 5-piece kit for x-mas (Tama). I might be hitting you
up for tips later next week! :^)
Did you buy that 5-piece kit from Mike? ;~)
GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Dec 23, 11:56 pm, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>> Thanks for the tip.
>>
>> You're welcome - this might be even quicker:
>>
>> Michael A. Straessle
>> 103 Hwy 89 South
>> Mayflower, AR 72106
>> 501-744-8204
>>
>> --
>> Morris Dovey
>> DeSoto Solar
>> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
>
> Holy cow. I'd love to know how you did that.
Google you name and check with 411.com for starters. You'd be amazed at how
much information is available. Now that you know where the guy lives, go to
zillow.com and see his house and find out what he pays in RE taxes.
In your situation, I'd also send him a certified letter about the copyright.
In article <[email protected]>,
GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Dec 25, 9:37 am, ROYNEU <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Dec 23, 6:37 pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > eHow article:
>>
>> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>> > My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>> > was lifted from here:
>>
>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>> > I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>> > deleted. Lol.
>>
>> > I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>> > happens.
>>
>> I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a large
>> publisher that I've run into photos being used without permissions.
>> Unfortunately you will find this practice often on University sites.
>> Students snag them and post them in articles used for assignments. The
>> University doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying the article.
>
>Because it's "Fair Use" this there is no infringement.
There is no guarantee that that use _is_, in fact, exempt as fair use.
'Fair use' is a notoriously complicated subject, and one which the courts
have gone out of their way to _not_ clarify, for *many* years.
The copyright statutes specify some criteria to 'be considered' in determining
'fair use', but do not specify 'how much' consideration is to be given to
any particular point. This is just one of the reasons that copyright
infringement cases are so expensive to pursue in court.
GarageWoodworks wrote:
> A citation under the photo as a photo credit would have been nice.
> Most people will never click the photo, thus never see the url.
>
> He is passing it off as his own by doing what he did.
It happens all the time ... I've had an entire website copied once, word
for word, picture for picture, chart for chart, in India ... no amount
of legal threats did the trick. I'm talking technical stuff, a treatise
on Internet "domain name service", complete with charts, the
underpinnings of the Internet, way back before anyone here could even
spell "computer", let alone "www".
And, wrote this 13 years ago and have seen it quoted all over the web,
including it being used, word for word, in a movie, without a single
credit to the author ... go figure:
http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
--
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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
GarageWoodworks wrote:
> I gave the guy an opportunity to contact me, but he deleted my first
> comment and did not contact me as I requested. I flagged the article
> with eHow, but I migt also do as you suggested by contacting their
> ISP.
>
> The funny thing is that if you google the article author, he appears
> to be a 'real' author and has written a couple books. He should have
> known better! This isn't some goof ball college kid that wrote this.
Yes he should have. I hope you have a registered copyright; i.e., one paid
and registered with the Library of Congress.
The difference between registered and unregistered copyrights is that you do
not need to prove damages with a registered one, only that an infringement
has occurred. That infringement alone carries hefty statutory penalties;
any actual damage beyond that amount can also be recovered. If
unregistered, one has to prove infringement *and* monetary damages.
--
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Ralph E Lindberg <[email protected]> laid this on me on 24 Dec 2009 in
rec.woodworking:
> In article <[email protected]>, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Nova wrote:
>>
>> > The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web
>> > site's picture. Change the picture on your site to screw with the
>> > offending page.
>>
>> If it were, your advice would have been first class.
>>
>> Every day my server delivers copies of this to requestors around the
>> globe:
>>
>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/SawHorse/SH_QBack.jpg
>>
> How did you rig that little trick. I assume if people view on you
> web-site they get the real image, but via link in someone else's they
> get that.
> I have a friend that has constant issues with people swiping her
> images.
do a google search for 'htaccess' and 'mod rewrite'.
(assuming her http server is running Apache...). htaccess is a file
lets you specify all sorts of directives to help sort out issues like
this.
One of the many things mod rewrite can do is let you specify files
(in this case, jpgs/gifs) that can only be accessed by the home server,
and can tell the server what to do when it is accessed remotely. (as
well as all sorts of other neat tricks).
Sean
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) laid this on me on 24 Dec 2009 in
rec.woodworking:
> [email protected] (Doug Miller) writes:
>>In article <[email protected]>, Sean S
>><seans_efn_dotorg> wrote:
>>
>>> One of the many things mod rewrite can do is let you specify
>>> files
>>>(in this case, jpgs/gifs) that can only be accessed by the home
>>>server, and can tell the server what to do when it is accessed
>>>remotely. (as well as all sorts of other neat tricks).
>>
>>Hmmmmm...... I knew mod_rewrite was capable of a lot of things, but I
>>didn't know about *that*! Thank you. That gives me a fistful of new
>>ideas...
>
> Hmm indeed. The only way I can see this working is if mod_rewrite
> looks at the referrer header and ensures that it is the local site; so
> absent the REFERER header being spoofed, it should work.
>
> This will also preclude things like wget, which aren't allowed to
> specify the REFERER header[*].
>
> scott
Yeah, that's the right idea.
For the OP (and anyone else who cares), here'e one way I do it
(obviously, you need to turn mod rewrite on in htaccess first...) where
DOMAIN would be your domain.
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?DOMAIN.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?DOMAIN.com$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?DOMAIN.com.*/.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?DOMAIN.com.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule (.*)\.(gif|jpg|bmp|png)$ - [F,NC]
You can alternatively create a rule that substitutes a new image for
the requested one if you really wanna mess with 'em (I've seen some funny
ones, many NSFW), but I prefer to save the bandwidth and just make it
forbidden.
Sean
On Dec 23, 8:15=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Dec 23, 8:08=A0pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <[email protected]=
ps.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >eHow article:
>
> > >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > >My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0I=
t
> > >was lifted from here:
>
> > >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > >deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > >happens.
>
> > They were even stupid enough to display your URL at the bottom of it. G=
et a
> > screen grab of that quick, before they change it.
>
> > Then email and phone their ISP to complain. Whois lookup shows their do=
main
> > registrar is Enom Inc (www.enom.com), but the other whois information i=
s
> > private. I'd start with a telephone complaint to Enom -- I've dealt wit=
h them
> > before, and found them to be polite and responsive.
>
> Thanks Doug. =A0I took a screen grab of the screen w/ thumbnail photo
> and with the enlarged photo and url.
>
> I gave the guy an opportunity to contact me, but he deleted my first
> comment and did not contact me as I requested. =A0I flagged the article
> with eHow, but I migt also do as you suggested by contacting their
> ISP.
>
> The funny thing is that if you google the article author, he appears
> to be a 'real' author and has written a couple books. =A0He should have
> known better! =A0This isn't some goof ball college kid that wrote this.
He knows better. That's why he didn't reply. Probably another preacher
who thinks he's above it all.
On Dec 25, 9:37=A0am, ROYNEU <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 6:37=A0pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > eHow article:
>
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> > My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> > was lifted from here:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> > I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> > deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> > I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> > happens.
>
> I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a large
> publisher that I've run into photos being used without permissions.
> Unfortunately you will find this practice often on University sites.
> Students snag them and post them in articles used for assignments. The
> University doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying the article.
Because it's "Fair Use" this there is no infringement.
> Having been in the printing trades for many years and working with
> customers who have no clue about this stuff. And, then the anger when
> you tell them they will need a waiver from the author to use the
> material.
>
> Keep after them otherwise they never learn. Although, it will be a
> tough fight for you and can be expensive if lawers are involved.
>
> Roy
On Dec 23, 8:08=A0pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]=
.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >eHow article:
>
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> >My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
> >was lifted from here:
>
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>
> >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> >deleted. =A0Lol.
>
> >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> >happens.
>
> They were even stupid enough to display your URL at the bottom of it. Get=
a
> screen grab of that quick, before they change it.
>
> Then email and phone their ISP to complain. Whois lookup shows their doma=
in
> registrar is Enom Inc (www.enom.com), but the other whois information is
> private. I'd start with a telephone complaint to Enom -- I've dealt with =
them
> before, and found them to be polite and responsive.
Thanks Doug. I took a screen grab of the screen w/ thumbnail photo
and with the enlarged photo and url.
I gave the guy an opportunity to contact me, but he deleted my first
comment and did not contact me as I requested. I flagged the article
with eHow, but I migt also do as you suggested by contacting their
ISP.
The funny thing is that if you google the article author, he appears
to be a 'real' author and has written a couple books. He should have
known better! This isn't some goof ball college kid that wrote this.
On Dec 23, 9:01=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
> > A citation under the photo as a photo credit would have been nice.
> > Most people will never click the photo, thus never see the url.
>
> > He is passing it off as his own by doing what he did.
>
> It happens all the time ... I've had an entire website copied once, word
> for word, picture for picture, chart for chart, in India ... no amount
> of legal threats did the trick. I'm talking technical stuff, a treatise
> on Internet "domain name service", complete with charts, the
> underpinnings of the Internet, way back before anyone here could even
> spell "computer", let alone "www".
>
> And, wrote this 13 years ago and have seen it quoted all over the web,
> including it being used, word for word, in a movie, without a single
> credit to the author ... go figure:
>
> http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
>
> What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Dam Karl! That would have pissed me off big time!
I guess anyone that posts art in general is at risk. It's no wonder
why artists post their work with huge watermarks over top.
GarageWoodworks wrote:
> eHow article:
>
> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
> was lifted from here:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>
> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> deleted. Lol.
>
> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> happens.
Hmm - Michael Straessle, the article's 50 year old author, has a BA in
professional writing from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock and
claims to work full-time as a writer, which means he's fully aware of US
copyright law.
Mr Straessle says he's a "Teacher and Children's Pastor at Victory
Fellowship". I wonder if the Victory Fellowship distinguishes itself
from others by acknowledging only 9 commandments...
I'd imagine that your attorney could get his contact information from
the Alumni Office at the Univ of Arkansas at Little Rock.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
In article <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb36c@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>eHow article:
>
>http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
>My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>was lifted from here:
>
>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>
>I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>deleted. Lol.
>
>I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>happens.
They were even stupid enough to display your URL at the bottom of it. Get a
screen grab of that quick, before they change it.
Then email and phone their ISP to complain. Whois lookup shows their domain
registrar is Enom Inc (www.enom.com), but the other whois information is
private. I'd start with a telephone complaint to Enom -- I've dealt with them
before, and found them to be polite and responsive.
Nova wrote:
> The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
> picture. Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending page.
If it were, your advice would have been first class.
Every day my server delivers copies of this to requestors around the globe:
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/SawHorse/SH_QBack.jpg
Festool managed to remove the offending link from their site in only two
days, but Facebook appears to not mind. :-/
Yahoo! has been providing copies of video from my site for about a month
now, and would not respond to a request to stop.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
In news:[email protected],
Swingman <[email protected]> dropped this bit of wisdom:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
>=20
>> A citation under the photo as a photo credit would have been nice.
>> Most people will never click the photo, thus never see the url.
>>=20
>> He is passing it off as his own by doing what he did.
>=20
> It happens all the time ... I've had an entire website copied once,
> word for word, picture for picture, chart for chart, in India ... no
> amount of legal threats did the trick. I'm talking technical stuff, a
> treatise on Internet "domain name service", complete with charts, the
> underpinnings of the Internet, way back before anyone here could even
> spell "computer", let alone "www".
>=20
> And, wrote this 13 years ago and have seen it quoted all over the web,
> including it being used, word for word, in a movie, without a single
> credit to the author ... go figure:
>=20
> http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
>=20
> What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
Actually, the quote is:
"What's mine is mine and what's yours is ours."
Probably, if you were to infringe upon him, he would seek umbrage.
:-(
P D Q
In article <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb36c@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>eHow article:
>
>http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
>My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>was lifted from here:
>
>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>
>I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>deleted. Lol.
>
>I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>happens.
I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
"Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com without
permission?"
In article <[email protected]>, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>Nova wrote:
>
>> The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
>> picture. Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending page.
>
>If it were, your advice would have been first class.
>
>Every day my server delivers copies of this to requestors around the globe:
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/SawHorse/SH_QBack.jpg
Cute!
>
>Festool managed to remove the offending link from their site in only two
>days, but Facebook appears to not mind. :-/
>
>Yahoo! has been providing copies of video from my site for about a month
>now, and would not respond to a request to stop.
>
In article <5b01dd64-0049-4278-bd0f-33677d66ad5b@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Dec 23, 9:52=A0pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]=
>..com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >eHow article:
>>
>> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>> >My picture is used in the article. =A0I stumbled upon this today. =A0It
>> >was lifted from here:
>>
>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php=A0third photo down.
>>
>> >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>> >deleted. =A0Lol.
>>
>> >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>> >happens.
>>
>> I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
>>
>> "Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com without
>> permission?"
>
>Lol! Thanks! :^)
It didn't stay there long. I actually posted the comment about an hour and a
half ago, wrote my previous message -- and forgot to post it. Came back to
newsgroups just a few minutes ago, saw that still sitting there waiting to be
sent, and sent it.
Just checked eHow -- my comment is gone. So I posted this one:
"Why do you: a) post copyrighted material without permission, and b) remove
comments complaining about it?"
We'll see how long that stays up....
In article <567635c5-d295-4abb-81d7-7f45ec55ad80@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Dec 23, 10:02=A0pm, J W <n___@n___.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Not that what eHow did was correct, but is there anywhere on
>> garagewoodworks that says anything about copyright? I looked all around
>> and couldn't find any copyright information.
>
>Doesn't have to say it.
Correct.
> It's copyright protected automatically when published.
Not quite correct. It's copyright protected automatically when *created*.
> without a single
> credit to the author ... go figure:
>
> http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
>
> What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
>
Go look again, Karl.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
J W wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb36c@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> eHow article:
>>>
>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>>
>>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>>> was lifted from here:
>>>
>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>>
>>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>>> deleted. Lol.
>>>
>>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>>> happens.
>>
>> I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
>>
>> "Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com
>> without permission?"
>
> Not that what eHow did was correct, but is there anywhere on
> garagewoodworks that says anything about copyright? I looked all
> around and couldn't find any copyright information.
There doesn't have to be a notice in the US. It is a given that anything
one does is copyrighted unless one explicitly _waives_ copyright.
Swingman wrote:
> GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
>> A citation under the photo as a photo credit would have been nice.
>> Most people will never click the photo, thus never see the url.
> http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
>
> What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
Exactly.
In the new Amerika, you guys gotta learn to share!
--
Jack
Got Change: Amerika - The new Collective!
http://jbstein.com
Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> How did you rig that little trick. I assume if people view on you
> web-site they get the real image, but via link in someone else's they
> get that.
My HTML ("web page") file contains the URL (symbolic internet address)
of the images to be displayed. When my server log indicates a level of
abuse that exceeds my comfort level, I change the image file name and
update the URL in the web page to point to the new name.
Normally, after that the server would report "file not found" (status
404) when someone presents a request for the old URL - but I created the
file you saw with a graphics editor and gave it the old name of the
image file, so that people would see that instead of the "broken link"
symbol.
It's a PIA to do because it takes up time I'd rather spend on other
things - and it clutters up my server with extra image files - so I've
only done it a few times.
I've been on the verge of writing a program to periodically go through
my entire web site and diddle the file names, but haven't felt that I
could take the time to do that without hurting other projects.
> I have a friend that has constant issues with people swiping her
> images.
If they're only linking to her images, this approach may work - but if
they're delivering copies of her images from their server, it might be
time to seek compensation.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On 12/24/09 7:51 AM, Swingman wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> > without a single
>>> credit to the author ... go figure:
>>>
>>> http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
>>>
>>> What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
>>>
>>
>> Go look again, Karl.
>
> ?
Bottom of the page:
"(Karl A. Cailllouet ©1996)"
Maybe he got some scruples. :-)
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"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
>
>> How did you rig that little trick. I assume if people view on you
>> web-site they get the real image, but via link in someone else's they get
>> that.
>
> My HTML ("web page") file contains the URL (symbolic internet address) of
> the images to be displayed. When my server log indicates a level of abuse
> that exceeds my comfort level, I change the image file name and update the
> URL in the web page to point to the new name.
>
> Normally, after that the server would report "file not found" (status 404)
> when someone presents a request for the old URL - but I created the file
> you saw with a graphics editor and gave it the old name of the image file,
> so that people would see that instead of the "broken link" symbol.
>
> It's a PIA to do because it takes up time I'd rather spend on other
> things - and it clutters up my server with extra image files - so I've
> only done it a few times.
>
> I've been on the verge of writing a program to periodically go through my
> entire web site and diddle the file names, but haven't felt that I could
> take the time to do that without hurting other projects.
>
>> I have a friend that has constant issues with people swiping her
>> images.
>
> If they're only linking to her images, this approach may work - but if
> they're delivering copies of her images from their server, it might be
> time to seek compensation.
In your cPanel you may find that you can simply turn off remotely serving
image files. Then if there are some you do want to remotely serve put them
in a separate directory and allow remote serving for files in that
directory. Some will even allow you to customize how remote serving
requests are processed. You will have to check out the options offered by
your host, but you may be surprised.
On 12/24/09 12:19 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:37:49 -0800, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
>> eHow article:
>>
>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It was
>> lifted from here:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>> deleted. Lol.
>>
>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what happens.
>
> I just looked and found two comments from you. I added another :-).
>
I flagged it. I also tried to comment but it's not showing up.
Maybe the author turned off comments or something.
(yes, I'm a member)
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In article <[email protected]>, Sean S <seans_efn_dotorg> wrote:
> One of the many things mod rewrite can do is let you specify files
>(in this case, jpgs/gifs) that can only be accessed by the home server,
>and can tell the server what to do when it is accessed remotely. (as
>well as all sorts of other neat tricks).
Hmmmmm...... I knew mod_rewrite was capable of a lot of things, but I didn't
know about *that*! Thank you. That gives me a fistful of new ideas...
On 12/24/09 2:33 PM, Swingman wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 12/24/09 7:51 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> > without a single
>>>>> credit to the author ... go figure:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go look again, Karl.
>>>
>>> ?
>>
>> Bottom of the page:
>> "(Karl A. Cailllouet ©1996)"
>>
>> Maybe he got some scruples. :-)
>
> That was that was the original web page I wrote it for, and where it's
> been heisted from countless times ... :)
>
Ooooooooooohh. :-)
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On 12/24/09 3:03 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I got my kid a 5-piece kit for x-mas (Tama). I might be hitting you
> up for tips later next week! :^)
Nice! I'd love to help in any way I can.
I have drum tuning info on my site if you want to read up.
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In article <886f800f-47ad-4163-8ed5-ea64447b9bfd@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, ROYNEU <[email protected]> wrote:
>I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a large
>publisher that I've run into photos being used without permissions.
>Unfortunately you will find this practice often on University sites.
>Students snag them and post them in articles used for assignments.
It's not just university students:
http://emailsfromcrazypeople.
com/2009/08/05/gets-no-respect-i-tell-ya-no-respect/
GarageWoodworks wrote:
> On Dec 25, 9:37 am, ROYNEU <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Dec 23, 6:37 pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> eHow article:
>>
>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>>> was lifted from here:
>>
>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>>> deleted. Lol.
>>
>>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>>> happens.
>>
>> I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a
>> large publisher that I've run into photos being used without
>> permissions. Unfortunately you will find this practice often on
>> University sites. Students snag them and post them in articles used
>> for assignments. The University doesn't seem to have a problem with
>> displaying the article.
>
> Because it's "Fair Use" this there is no infringement.
Use of someone else's work in a student assignment is not automatically fair
use. In fact it is often plagiarism and that is grounds for a failing grade
and disciplinary action by the institution, over and above any legal
remedies sought by the copyright holder.
>> Having been in the printing trades for many years and working with
>> customers who have no clue about this stuff. And, then the anger when
>> you tell them they will need a waiver from the author to use the
>> material.
>>
>> Keep after them otherwise they never learn. Although, it will be a
>> tough fight for you and can be expensive if lawers are involved.
>>
>> Roy
Morris Dovey wrote:
> I've been on the verge of writing a program to periodically go through
> my entire web site and diddle the file names, but haven't felt that I
> could take the time to do that without hurting other projects.
SED AWK GAWK all come to mind...
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Got Change: 2008 ====> 1984
http://jbstein.com
Jack Stein wrote:
> Morris Dovey wrote:
>
>> I've been on the verge of writing a program to periodically go through
>> my entire web site and diddle the file names, but haven't felt that I
>> could take the time to do that without hurting other projects.
>
> SED AWK GAWK all come to mind...
I kinda like the speed of gcc. :)
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DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On 12/24/09 6:00 PM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>
>>> I got my kid a 5-piece kit for x-mas (Tama). I might be hitting you
>>> up for tips later next week! :^)
>>
>> Nice! I'd love to help in any way I can.
>>
>> I have drum tuning info on my site if you want to read up.
>>
> Ok. Thanks. The guy at the shop said they were pre-tuned, but I
> wouldn't know the difference ( I don't think anyway).
> I'll give your tuning page a read.
>
I answered your email, but it bounced back.
I sent it again... hopefully it got through.
Let me know if you never get it.
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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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[email protected]
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-MIKE- wrote:
> On 12/24/09 7:51 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> > without a single
>>>> credit to the author ... go figure:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.andersonfair.com/HssAF_2.htm
>>>>
>>>> What's mine, is apparently also your's ....
>>>>
>>>
>>> Go look again, Karl.
>>
>> ?
>
> Bottom of the page:
> "(Karl A. Cailllouet ©1996)"
>
> Maybe he got some scruples. :-)
That was that was the original web page I wrote it for, and where it's
been heisted from countless times ... :)
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:54:41 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> On Dec 25, 9:37 am, ROYNEU <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Dec 23, 6:37 pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> eHow article:
>>>
>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>>
>>>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>>>> was lifted from here:
>>>
>>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>>
>>>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>>>> deleted. Lol.
>>>
>>>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>>>> happens.
>>>
>>> I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a
>>> large publisher that I've run into photos being used without
>>> permissions. Unfortunately you will find this practice often on
>>> University sites. Students snag them and post them in articles used
>>> for assignments. The University doesn't seem to have a problem with
>>> displaying the article.
>>
>> Because it's "Fair Use" this there is no infringement.
>
>Use of someone else's work in a student assignment is not automatically fair
>use. In fact it is often plagiarism and that is grounds for a failing grade
>and disciplinary action by the institution, over and above any legal
>remedies sought by the copyright holder.
If the work is copied in total, it's plagiarism (the penalty for which
is becoming VP). If it's excerpted or referenced, it generally comes
under "fair use". Of course fair use still requires an attribution.
>>> Having been in the printing trades for many years and working with
>>> customers who have no clue about this stuff. And, then the anger when
>>> you tell them they will need a waiver from the author to use the
>>> material.
>>>
>>> Keep after them otherwise they never learn. Although, it will be a
>>> tough fight for you and can be expensive if lawers are involved.
>>>
>>> Roy
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:35:28 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Dec 23, 8:28 pm, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:37:49 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>> >eHow article:
>>
>> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>> >My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>> >was lifted from here:
>>
>> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>> >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>> >deleted. Lol.
>>
>> >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>> >happens.
>>
>> They give the full link to your site and pic, though, Brain. ;)
>>
>> I see some of my pics in blogs now and again and consider that it
>> probably makes my site more popular, so I'm not against it.
>>
>> --
>> REMEMBER: The sooner you fall behind,
>> the more time you'll have to catch up!
>
>Still copyright infringement. Still breaking the law. I gain nothing
>from my photo being used and he gets paid. No, this is wrong.
>
>A citation under the photo as a photo credit would have been nice.
>Most people will never click the photo, thus never see the url.
>
>He is passing it off as his own by doing what he did.
True, but see my other post for the most common rationalization
of his actions. <titter>
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the more time you'll have to catch up!
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:37:49 -0800 (PST), the infamous GarageWoodworks
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>eHow article:
>
>http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
>My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>was lifted from here:
>
>http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>
>I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>deleted. Lol.
>
>I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>happens.
They give the full link to your site and pic, though, Brain. ;)
I see some of my pics in blogs now and again and consider that it
probably makes my site more popular, so I'm not against it.
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the more time you'll have to catch up!
In article
<955d83c9-2dfd-46f4-a959-4233b2c38692@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Still copyright infringement. Still breaking the law. I gain nothing
> from my photo being used and he gets paid. No, this is wrong.
>
> A citation under the photo as a photo credit would have been nice.
> Most people will never click the photo, thus never see the url.
>
> He is passing it off as his own by doing what he did.
I have a friend that embeds a VISIBLE copyright on every photo he posts.
He also puts info "inside" the jpeg.
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In article <[email protected]>, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
>
> > How did you rig that little trick. I assume if people view on you
> > web-site they get the real image, but via link in someone else's they
> > get that.
>
> My HTML ("web page") file contains the URL (symbolic internet address)
> of the images to be displayed. When my server log indicates a level of
> abuse that exceeds my comfort level, I change the image file name and
> update the URL in the web page to point to the new name.
>
> Normally, after that the server would report "file not found" (status
> 404) when someone presents a request for the old URL - but I created the
> file you saw with a graphics editor and gave it the old name of the
> image file, so that people would see that instead of the "broken link"
> symbol.
>
> It's a PIA to do because it takes up time I'd rather spend on other
> things - and it clutters up my server with extra image files - so I've
> only done it a few times.
>
> I've been on the verge of writing a program to periodically go through
> my entire web site and diddle the file names, but haven't felt that I
> could take the time to do that without hurting other projects.
>
> > I have a friend that has constant issues with people swiping her
> > images.
>
> If they're only linking to her images, this approach may work - but if
> they're delivering copies of her images from their server, it might be
> time to seek compensation.
Thanks, I thought you were doing some kind of hack that Sean S is
proposing....
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In article <[email protected]>, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Nova wrote:
>
> > The picture shown in the article is actually link to your web site's
> > picture. Change the picture on your site to screw with the offending page.
>
> If it were, your advice would have been first class.
>
> Every day my server delivers copies of this to requestors around the globe:
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/SawHorse/SH_QBack.jpg
>
How did you rig that little trick. I assume if people view on you
web-site they get the real image, but via link in someone else's they
get that.
I have a friend that has constant issues with people swiping her
images.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article
> <c34bf089-60e3-4583-a437-a17b69dfb36c@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> GarageWoodworks <[email protected]> wrote:
> >eHow article:
> >
> >http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
> >
> >My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
> >was lifted from here:
> >
> >http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
> >
> >I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> >deleted. Lol.
> >
> >I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
> >happens.
>
> I just posted this comment; we'll see how long it stays there:
>
> "Why are you posting copyrighted material from garagewoodworks.com without
> permission?"
Not that what eHow did was correct, but is there anywhere on
garagewoodworks that says anything about copyright? I looked all around
and couldn't find any copyright information.
In article <[email protected]>,
krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:37:59 -0800 (PST), ROYNEU <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Dec 23, 6:37 pm, GarageWoodworks <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>> eHow article:
>>>
>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>>
>>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>>> was lifted from here:
>>>
>>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>>
>>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>>> deleted. Lol.
>>>
>>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>>> happens.
>>
>>I can no longer count how many times as a Photo Researcher for a large
>>publisher that I've run into photos being used without permissions.
>>Unfortunately you will find this practice often on University sites.
>>Students snag them and post them in articles used for assignments. The
>>University doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying the article.
>>Having been in the printing trades for many years and working with
>>customers who have no clue about this stuff. And, then the anger when
>>you tell them they will need a waiver from the author to use the
>>material.
>
>If they're used only for assignments, doesn't it fall under the "fair
>use" clause?
If it is copied into the work which is submitted to the teacher _only_,
then yes, it clearly comes under the scholarly research fork of 'fair use'.
If it is 'published' to the world-at-large, the situation is _very_
different.
>>Keep after them otherwise they never learn. Although, it will be a
>>tough fight for you and can be expensive if lawers are involved.
>
>Patents are the same deal, and much worse.
I used to make web searches for the (trademarked) name of a company I
did sys admin work for, and would contact the parties using the name
'without license' (It was a _good_ name for a particular line of work
and lots of people came up with it 'independently', *including* several
Universities.) Most of the time, my phone call was enough -- especially
with the Universities -- The 'unreasonable' ones were forwarded to the
corporation counsel, who (most of the time) sent a cease-and-decease
demand that was complied with. Occasionally, counsel decided that the
other party was in a line of work that was 'enough different' from what
the company did that it was arguably _not_ infringement, and ti was let
slide. One party _did_ get *really* testy about it -- at least until
they consulted _their_ legal counsel -- whereupon their tune changed,
shall we say, radically. <grin>
The point remains, you've got to be prepared to take action to defend your
rights, or the 'others' _will_ trample you.
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:37:49 -0800, GarageWoodworks wrote:
> eHow article:
>
> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>
> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It was
> lifted from here:
>
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>
> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
> deleted. Lol.
>
> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what happens.
I just looked and found two comments from you. I added another :-).
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Morris Dovey <[email protected]> writes:
>GarageWoodworks wrote:
>> eHow article:
>>
>> http://www.ehow.com/how_4798144_wooden-table-top.html
>>
>> My picture is used in the article. I stumbled upon this today. It
>> was lifted from here:
>>
>> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Cherry_Table_C.php third photo down.
>>
>> I left a comment at the bottom complaining about it but it has been
>> deleted. Lol.
>>
>> I flagged the article for copyright infringement, lets see what
>> happens.
>
>Hmm - Michael Straessle, the article's 50 year old author, has a BA in
>professional writing from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock and
>claims to work full-time as a writer, which means he's fully aware of US
>copyright law.
I suspect that he believed the attribution (the garagewoodworks URL)
that appeared when one clicked on the image was sufficient.
scott