On Apr 14, 10:05=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> You Dutch folks are strange. =A0<g>
>
Google "Dutch Inventions and Discoveries"
You need an edumukation.
In article
<[email protected]>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
I didn't know Antarctica was a country...
In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
while since I've driven it in the prairies.
I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
wrong.
In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/12/11 5:19 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
> >> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
> >
> > 110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
> > the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
> > while since I've driven it in the prairies.
> >
> > I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
> > wrong.
>
> Here the posted limit is 100 kph on major highways, but if you try and
> drive less than 110 to 115 you get someone running up your ass,
> conditions apply. :-)
A former colleague has a son-in-law who worked as a Mounti in Alberta.
Word was they didn't pull anyone over on Hwy 2 between Calgary and
Edmonton unless they were doing 140 or better. Too risky otherwise.
This was about 10 years back, but I don't imagine it's changed...
On 13 Apr 2011 15:58:23 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> <g> Maybe you should have asked for the "stand and shake it" room?
>
>Hey, I was young with good but limited knowledge of English, and certainly
>didn't know such idiom. I'm just a little better in that regard now ...
Also, the slang changes at such fast rates, who can keep up?
--
The United States of America is the greatest, the
noblest and, in its original founding principles,
the only moral country in the history of the world.
-- Ayn Rand
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Apr 12, 12:37 am, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
>
> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> I didn't know Antarctica was a country...
I am also reasonably certain it isn't as big as it appears in that
global projection...whatever projection that might be.
**********************
It certainly looks big, but that is because the image is a flat image of a
globe, thus making the Antarctic appear large
But, I thought that Antarctica was a Continent, owned by no one in
particular, but inhabited by several nations.
On Apr 13, 11:46=A0pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
>
> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com.=
..
> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>
> >> That's debatable.
>
> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>
> Montgolfier
>
They were in fact the first humans to fly.
The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
On Apr 13, 11:58=A0am, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
> Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote innews:jfdbq6tucc4etu3=
[email protected]:
>
> > <g> =A0Maybe you should have asked for the "stand and shake it" room?
>
> Hey, I was young with good but limited knowledge of English, and certainl=
y
> didn't know such idiom. =A0I'm just a little better in that regard now ..=
.
>
*disclaimer*
Probably only funny to a Dutchman.
An uncle of mine (married to one of my dad's six sisters) wasn't the
sharpest knife in the drawer. He had one helluva time with English
after he emigrated to Canada in 1948. Years later, when taken along
with his grand kids to the zoo in Detroit, he pointed out a large
pachyderm to one of the kids and said: "Look! An 'oil-phant'. My
cousin just lost it... she still can't tell the story without coming
apart.
On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>
>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international" the
>> English language became with a little time...
>
> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day ??
>
Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
On 4/12/2011 10:37 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>>> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>>>
>>>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international" the
>>>> English language became with a little time...
>>>
>>> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day ??
>>>
>>
>> Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
>>
>
> Comes from the French "gardez le eau!", when chucking the contents of
> the chamber pot out the window.
>
That's only one of many possibilities, see
http://kottke.org/05/02/loo-etymology
But it remains funny to say "Maybe the Americans will learn to use the
English language one day" when so much of the English language derives
from French, Spanish, German, etc.
On 04/12/2011 09:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> "Father Haskell"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>>> Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>
>>
>> That's debatable.
>
> So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>
>
Icarus?
Some of the scienterrific equipment that we work with uses both metric
and imperial. For example many of our high pressure pumps have
settings for milliliters per minute flow and PSI for pressure. The
German made pumps use Torr for pressure. From casual conversations
with other techs, flow and volumes are easily understood unsing
liters, etc but pressure is still pounds per square inch. Lengths are
metric unless it's shelving or furniture or "how far is the bathroom
from your lab" type comment.
Marc (who wonders how
boring life would have been if we always used metric. Think how
unemotional the cliche "Give him and inch and he'll take a mile" would
be if it were converted to metric?)
On Apr 15, 8:14=A0am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, markem618
> @hotmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >On Apr 13, 11:46 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:[email protected]...
>
> > >> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > >> > [email protected] says...
>
> > >> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >> >>news:[email protected]=
.com...
> > >> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>
> > >> >> That's debatable.
>
> > >> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>
> > >> Montgolfier
>
> > >They were in fact the first humans to fly.
>
> > >The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
> > >Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
> > >the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
> > >print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
>
> > The engineering to achieve heavier than air power flight, but wing
> > warping with the rudder was the "invention" that made controlling the
> > aircraft attitude easier.
>
> I guess robatwit thinks that some ancient Chinese put a man on the Moon. =
=A0
> After all, that ancient Chinese had a working rocket.
And THIS is what you do and what makes you so disliked around here:
you assume to know what it is somebody thinks. Sir, in my case, you
neither have the ability nor the capacity.
On Apr 14, 10:23=A0am, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
> Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote innews:hoqdq6t9fnraffh=
[email protected]:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the
> >>Gare du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding
> >>the appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just
> >>a hole in the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was
> >>normal ....
>
> > Luckily, I've never seen those, just heard about 'em.
>
> >>The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
>
> > Who ever thought up a toilet which _pisses_back_?
>
> >>Then there was the woman mopping the men's room asking me to lift my
> >>feet as I stood at the urinal ...
>
> > Turn around, act surprised, and ask "What?" without stopping the flow.
>
> Larry, look this up up via a translation page (it's Dutch)
> "'s Lands wijs, 's lands eer"
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid
AKA "When in Rome...."
"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 11, 9:35 pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international" the
> English language became with a little time...
Because the airplane was an American invention.
*******************
That all depends on whether you are talking self ( air lifted ) powered,
man powered, steam engine powered, or internal combustion engine powered
Also, depends on the internal combustion engine, whether it was an
officially recognised attempt
The Wright brothers first flight, was not witnessed
On Apr 11, 3:35=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
I was somewwhat surpirsed at the continued use of English, US and
Spanish customary units in Central America, despite the official
"metric" status.
Belize still sells gas in real gallons and speed limits are in mph
while Guatemala and Panama sell gas in puny gallons.
Woodworkers everywhere use pulgadas (inches) and centimetros, and most
tape measures I saw in hardware stores had both inches and
centimetres. In Cuba, I guy a talked to mentioned needing 2 pulgada
nails for the house he was building.
Central Americans also use a Spanish yard, known as a vara. In Costa
Rica, their eminently droolable-over wood is sold by the "pulgada",
which is one nominal pulgada (inch) by one inch by four varas long.
It's a little less than a board-foot. $3.00 per pulgada at the sawmill
for some incredible tropical hardwoods. I gotta figure out a way of
bringing back a container load or two.
In Italy, my plumber cousin measures his pipe diameters in inches, but
the lengths are in metres and centimetres. In France, where the whole
metric thing started, one does not order 500 grams of whaterver food
at the butcher or grocer, but "une livre", a pound of whatever. In
Canada, our residential construction is still in inches and feet. The
attempt to hard convert plywood and to move to a 100mm module instead
of 4 inches failed in the early 80s.
And let's not forget the US was the first country to implement a
metric currency, in 1792. They replaced the old "reales" or bits --
1/8 of a Peso or Dollar -- with cents.
Luigi
On Apr 11, 6:35=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
1/3 foot =3D 4 inches.
1/3 meter =3D stack overflow.
in 1496500 20110413 143155 Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 04/12/2011 09:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> "Father Haskell"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's debatable.
>>
>> So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>>
>>
>Icarus?
Wright brothers made the first manned, powered, controlled flight.
Take out any of "manned, powered, controlled" and there were precedents.
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Apr 13, 11:46 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>>
>> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>
>> >> That's debatable.
>>
>> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>>
>> Montgolfier
>>
>
>They were in fact the first humans to fly.
>
>The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
>Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
>the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
>print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
Bernouli had long been proven right. The Wrights were just the first ones to:
- do the engineering needed to design the wings,
- figure out how to *control* the process (wing warping was
the major invention)
- and most importantly, get a power plant with sufficient
power to weight ratio
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Ackshally, the Autoroutes in Quebec did have 70 mph speed limits in
> the early 1970s when I learned to drive, but they brought them down to
> 60 in the late 70s, before they got turned to kilometres.
Yup. I lived in Montreal for 12 years and remember those 70 mph posted
speeds.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>
>
> That's debatable.
So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
In article <[email protected]>, markem618
@hotmail.com says...
>
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 13, 11:46 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >>news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
> >>
> >> >> That's debatable.
> >>
> >> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
> >>
> >> Montgolfier
> >>
> >
> >They were in fact the first humans to fly.
> >
> >The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
> >Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
> >the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
> >print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
>
> The engineering to achieve heavier than air power flight, but wing
> warping with the rudder was the "invention" that made controlling the
> aircraft attitude easier.
I guess robatwit thinks that some ancient Chinese put a man on the Moon.
After all, that ancient Chinese had a working rocket.
"George W Frost" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day ??
>
>
>
>
>
Why? We speak American, a derivative of English.
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy wrote:
>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international" the
> English language became with a little time...
Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day ??
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7afcd49c-1bbe-4c20-82ca-fb12ac5b5173@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 11, 3:35 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
I was somewwhat surpirsed at the continued use of English, US and
Spanish customary units in Central America, despite the official
"metric" status.
Belize still sells gas in real gallons and speed limits are in mph
while Guatemala and Panama sell gas in puny gallons.
Woodworkers everywhere use pulgadas (inches) and centimetros, and most
tape measures I saw in hardware stores had both inches and
centimetres. In Cuba, I guy a talked to mentioned needing 2 pulgada
nails for the house he was building.
Central Americans also use a Spanish yard, known as a vara. In Costa
Rica, their eminently droolable-over wood is sold by the "pulgada",
which is one nominal pulgada (inch) by one inch by four varas long.
It's a little less than a board-foot. $3.00 per pulgada at the sawmill
for some incredible tropical hardwoods. I gotta figure out a way of
bringing back a container load or two.
In Italy, my plumber cousin measures his pipe diameters in inches, but
the lengths are in metres and centimetres. In France, where the whole
metric thing started, one does not order 500 grams of whaterver food
at the butcher or grocer, but "une livre", a pound of whatever. In
Canada, our residential construction is still in inches and feet. The
attempt to hard convert plywood and to move to a 100mm module instead
of 4 inches failed in the early 80s.
And let's not forget the US was the first country to implement a
metric currency, in 1792. They replaced the old "reales" or bits --
1/8 of a Peso or Dollar -- with cents.
With the metric system restraint is suggested. Using Imperial is better in
many instances.
Imagine a metric clock
Imagine stumping a toe on your meter.
Imagine the casualties when upping the speed limit from 70 MPH to 112 KMPH.
Imagine the waste in time enunciating a metric measurement.
FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote in news:io1kf2$32f$1
@dont-email.me:
> Maybe if gas in the US was sold by the liter Lew would feel better about
> the prices. :-)
>
1.65/liter
(In Wageningen, Netherlands, on 4/12/2011 at a Shell station, according to
its web site:
<http://www.goedkooptanken.nu/tankstations/shell-express-wageningen_6348/>)
1=$1.44
1 gal=3.8 L
1.65*1.44*3.8=$9.00/US gallon
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Just Wondering <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 4/12/2011 10:37 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>> "Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>>>> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international"
>>>>> the English language became with a little time...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
>>>
>>
>> Comes from the French "gardez le eau!", when chucking the contents of
>> the chamber pot out the window.
>>
> That's only one of many possibilities, see
> http://kottke.org/05/02/loo-etymology
>
> But it remains funny to say "Maybe the Americans will learn to use the
> English language one day" when so much of the English language derives
> from French, Spanish, German, etc.
It's time for this obligatory story.
I moved to the US in 1969. Arriving at JFK Airport, I felt a need.
However, I couldn't find a toilet or WC (the European designations I was
used to), only restrooms - but I didn't have a need to rest!! Upoon
inquiry, my vocabulary was expanded ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> <g> Maybe you should have asked for the "stand and shake it" room?
Hey, I was young with good but limited knowledge of English, and certainly
didn't know such idiom. I'm just a little better in that regard now ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote in news:49a69c99-dbd5-4e02-8e68-
[email protected]:
> An uncle of mine (married to one of my dad's six sisters) wasn't the
> sharpest knife in the drawer. He had one helluva time with English
> after he emigrated to Canada in 1948. Years later, when taken along
> with his grand kids to the zoo in Detroit, he pointed out a large
> pachyderm to one of the kids and said: "Look! An 'oil-phant'. My
> cousin just lost it... she still can't tell the story without coming
> apart.
Yep.
This is standard lingo in our family (now extended to include moe or less
native Americans). On New Year's Eve, my daughter cooks traditional
Dutch Oilballs.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Oliebollen are a traditional Dutch delicacy made by deep-frying a yeast
dough that's somewhat like this:
<http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/recipes/oliebollen-new-year-s-eve-
doughnuts/>
Yummy, right, Rob?
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the
>>Gare du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding
>>the appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just
>>a hole in the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was
>>normal ....
>
> Luckily, I've never seen those, just heard about 'em.
>
>
>>The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
>
> Who ever thought up a toilet which _pisses_back_?
>
>
>>Then there was the woman mopping the men's room asking me to lift my
>>feet as I stood at the urinal ...
>
> Turn around, act surprised, and ask "What?" without stopping the flow.
Larry, look this up up via a translation page (it's Dutch)
"'s Lands wijs, 's lands eer"
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On Apr 14, 8:09=A0pm, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy <[email protected]=
m>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Apr 13, 11:46 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >> > [email protected] says...
>
> >> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >>news:[email protected]=
om...
> >> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>
> >> >> That's debatable.
>
> >> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>
> >> Montgolfier
>
> >They were in fact the first humans to fly.
>
> >The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
> >Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
> >the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
> >print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
>
> Bernouli had long been proven right. =A0The Wrights were just the first o=
nes to:
>
> =A0- do the engineering needed to design the wings,
> =A0- figure out how to *control* the process (wing warping was
> =A0 =A0the major invention)
> =A0- and most importantly, get a power plant with sufficient
> =A0 =A0power to weight ratio
They did a wonderful job applying someone else's original thought.
The light bulb was a true invention. An original thought developed
into a world-changing idea.
Rockets have been old hat for centuries, all NASA did was develop the
concept to the n-th degree.
The space program was filled with inventions which made all that
possible, from computers to material sciences, but the root concept
was at least a thousand years old, if not more.
That cannot be said about the lightbulb. Velcro was a rip-off from a
thistle....no pun intended.
On 14 Apr 2011 14:23:08 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the
>>>Gare du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding
>>>the appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just
>>>a hole in the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was
>>>normal ....
>>
>> Luckily, I've never seen those, just heard about 'em.
>>
>>
>>>The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
>>
>> Who ever thought up a toilet which _pisses_back_?
>>
>>
>>>Then there was the woman mopping the men's room asking me to lift my
>>>feet as I stood at the urinal ...
>>
>> Turn around, act surprised, and ask "What?" without stopping the flow.
>
>Larry, look this up up via a translation page (it's Dutch)
>"'s Lands wijs, 's lands eer"
When in Rome, so you turned around and started mopping the floor with
your...? You Dutch folks are strange. <g>
--
The United States of America is the greatest, the
noblest and, in its original founding principles,
the only moral country in the history of the world.
-- Ayn Rand
On Apr 11, 9:35=A0pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> We use it--just not unless we have to. =A0Amazing how "international" the
> English language became with a little time...
Because the airplane was an American invention.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
You would think that the green countries would have learned mo better by
now. ;~)
On Apr 13, 8:14=A0pm, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:31:55 -0700, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]=
om>
> wrote:
>
> >On 04/12/2011 09:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >> In article<[email protected]>,
> >> [email protected] says...
>
> >>> "Father Haskell"<[email protected]> =A0wrote in message
> >>>news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com=
...
> >>>> Because the airplane was an American invention.
>
> >>> That's debatable.
>
> >> So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>
> >Icarus?
>
> Powered flight?
Yup, bullshit-powered flight.
On Apr 14, 5:42=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the G=
are
> >du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding the
> >appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just a hol=
e in
> >the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was normal ....
>
> Luckily, I've never seen those, just heard about 'em.
They would save all the paper USians put on their toilet seats. But
you gotta learn to squat.
> >The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
>
> Who ever thought up a toilet which _pisses_back_?
Sale cochon am=E9ricain qui ne se lave pas le cul apr=E8s avoir chi=E9!
(Dirty pig american who not washes himself the arse after have shit!)
Some musings on US toilets I wrote on the PUD blog back in November
2009. (http://pickuptruckdiaries.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/in-
portland=92s-clutch/) OBWW there is also a description of my visit to
Gary Rogowski's school on that blog posting.
I observed a custome in all those American Cities and Townes through
which I passed, that is not used in any other country that I saw in my
travels, neither do I thinke that any other nation of Christendome
doth use it, but only the United States. The American, and also most
strangers that are commorant in the United States, does alwaies, at
their aisance use a circular strip of paper to cover that part of the
seat that their arse doth touch. This form of shitting I understand is
generally used in all places of the United States, their seat covers
being for the most part made of paper. The reason of this their
curiosity, is because the American cannot by any means endure to have
his arse touch the same place other men=92s arses have touched, seeing
all men=92s arses are not alike cleane.
On the other hand, not a bidet to be seen anywhere, to the disgust of
most Italians and Frenchmen. If arses are not washed, I guess one
needs to cover toilet seats.
Now I don=92t want to rest, I want to pee, take a dump and certainly
wash after either one. So why call them restrooms? What=92s wrong with
calling them toilets or washrooms? We do wash or do our toilet in
there, but unless you=92re really weird, you don=92t rest there.
Luigi
On Apr 11, 7:43=A0pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> Guess some US spy agency infiltrated the Burmese office of weights and
> measures.
Same thing happened in Liberia then?
On Apr 12, 6:35=A0am, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 4/12/11 9:10 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Luigi Zanasi"<[email protected]> =A0wrote in message
> >news:7afcd49c-1bbe-4c20-82ca-fb12ac5b5173@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com..=
.
> > On Apr 11, 3:35 pm, Robatoy<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >>http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> > I was somewwhat surpirsed at the continued use of English, US and
> > Spanish customary units in Central America, =A0despite the official
> > "metric" status.
>
> > Belize still sells gas in real gallons and speed limits are in mph
> > while Guatemala and Panama sell gas in puny gallons.
> > Woodworkers everywhere use pulgadas (inches) and centimetros, and most
> > tape measures I saw in hardware stores had both inches and
> > centimetres. In Cuba, I guy a talked to mentioned needing 2 pulgada
> > nails for the house he was building.
>
> > Central Americans also use a Spanish yard, known as a vara. In Costa
> > Rica, their eminently droolable-over wood is sold by the "pulgada",
> > which is one nominal pulgada (inch) by one inch by four varas long.
> > It's a little less than a board-foot. $3.00 per pulgada at the sawmill
> > for some incredible tropical hardwoods. I gotta figure out a way of
> > bringing back a container load or two.
>
> > In Italy, my plumber cousin measures his pipe diameters in inches, but
> > the lengths are in metres and centimetres. In France, where the whole
> > metric thing started, one does not order 500 grams of whaterver food
> > at the butcher or grocer, but "une livre", a pound of whatever. In
> > Canada, our residential construction is still in inches and feet. The
> > attempt to hard convert plywood and to move to a 100mm module instead
> > of 4 inches failed in the early 80s.
>
> > And let's not forget =A0the US was the first country to implement a
> > metric currency, in 1792. They replaced the old "reales" or bits --
> > 1/8 of a Peso or Dollar -- with cents.
>
> > With the metric system restraint is suggested. =A0Using Imperial is bet=
ter in
> > many instances.
>
> > Imagine a metric clock
> > Imagine stumping a toe on your meter.
> > Imagine the casualties =A0when upping the speed limit from 70 MPH to 11=
2 KMPH.
> > Imagine the waste in time enunciating a metric measurement.
>
> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
Ackshally, the Autoroutes in Quebec did have 70 mph speed limits in
the early 1970s when I learned to drive, but they brought them down to
60 in the late 70s, before they got turned to kilometres.
Luigi
On Apr 12, 12:37=A0am, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
>
> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> I didn't know Antarctica was a country...
I am also reasonably certain it isn't as big as it appears in that
global projection...whatever projection that might be.
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 13, 11:46 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>>
>> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>
>> >> That's debatable.
>>
>> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>>
>> Montgolfier
>>
>
>They were in fact the first humans to fly.
>
>The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
>Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
>the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
>print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
The engineering to achieve heavier than air power flight, but wing
warping with the rudder was the "invention" that made controlling the
aircraft attitude easier.
Mark
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
I knew no good would come of the Greenies.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the Gare
>du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding the
>appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just a hole in
>the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was normal ....
Luckily, I've never seen those, just heard about 'em.
>The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
Who ever thought up a toilet which _pisses_back_?
>Then there was the woman mopping the men's room asking me to lift my feet as
>I stood at the urinal ...
Turn around, act surprised, and ask "What?" without stopping the flow.
--
The United States of America is the greatest, the
noblest and, in its original founding principles,
the only moral country in the history of the world.
-- Ayn Rand
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:31:55 -0700, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 04/12/2011 09:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> "Father Haskell"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's debatable.
>>
>> So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>>
>>
>Icarus?
Powered flight?
"FrozenNorth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/12/11 11:34 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article<120420111519599518%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave
>> Balderstone<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>>>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>>>
>>> 110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
>>> the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
>>> while since I've driven it in the prairies.
>>>
>>> I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
>>> wrong.
>>
>> No, you're not wrong. I remember a trip from Indianapolis to Seattle, via
>> Calgary, that I took with my parents in 1975, less than a year after I
>> started driving. We were limited to 55mph in the U.S., but parts of the
>> Trans-Canada Highway were 70mph. I'm pretty sure that when I drove to
>> Otttawa
>> in 1980, via Niagara Falls and Toronto, that the highway speed limit was
>> 70mph
>> most of the way in Ontario, too, though still limited to 55 here in the
>> States.
>
> Through Toronto, no way, in 1980, 401 had a 60 MPH or 100 KPH limit, I
> would remember that as I live here and drive the highways now. I do *not*
> remember them reducing the limit.
During the last years that Nixon was in office, he brought the speed limit
down from 70 to 55. So that all happened some where around 72~74. We were
all going to save so much gas by doing this that it was beyond our realms of
imagination.
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:33:21 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 15, 8:14Â am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I guess robatwit thinks that some ancient Chinese put a man on the Moon. Â
>> After all, that ancient Chinese had a working rocket.
>
>And THIS is what you do and what makes you so disliked around here:
>you assume to know what it is somebody thinks. Sir, in my case, you
>neither have the ability nor the capacity.
The rest of us have him twit filtered. Why don't you?
If you dislike him so much, why are you replying to his trolls?
DFTFT PHAFH
--
Some people hear voices. Some see invisible people.
Others have no imagination whatsoever.
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 14, 10:05Â pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> You Dutch folks are strange. Â <g>
>
>Google "Dutch Inventions and Discoveries"
>
>You need an edumukation.
Strange needn't be unimaginative, y'know.
--
Some people hear voices. Some see invisible people.
Others have no imagination whatsoever.
In article <[email protected]>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
Can't speak for Burma, but we most certainly DO use the metric system in
the USA. (Though not for everything of course)
--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
Yeah, Burma is no longer Burma.
On 4/12/11 9:10 AM, Leon wrote:
> "Luigi Zanasi"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:7afcd49c-1bbe-4c20-82ca-fb12ac5b5173@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 11, 3:35 pm, Robatoy<[email protected]> wrote:
>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> I was somewwhat surpirsed at the continued use of English, US and
> Spanish customary units in Central America, despite the official
> "metric" status.
>
> Belize still sells gas in real gallons and speed limits are in mph
> while Guatemala and Panama sell gas in puny gallons.
> Woodworkers everywhere use pulgadas (inches) and centimetros, and most
> tape measures I saw in hardware stores had both inches and
> centimetres. In Cuba, I guy a talked to mentioned needing 2 pulgada
> nails for the house he was building.
>
> Central Americans also use a Spanish yard, known as a vara. In Costa
> Rica, their eminently droolable-over wood is sold by the "pulgada",
> which is one nominal pulgada (inch) by one inch by four varas long.
> It's a little less than a board-foot. $3.00 per pulgada at the sawmill
> for some incredible tropical hardwoods. I gotta figure out a way of
> bringing back a container load or two.
>
> In Italy, my plumber cousin measures his pipe diameters in inches, but
> the lengths are in metres and centimetres. In France, where the whole
> metric thing started, one does not order 500 grams of whaterver food
> at the butcher or grocer, but "une livre", a pound of whatever. In
> Canada, our residential construction is still in inches and feet. The
> attempt to hard convert plywood and to move to a 100mm module instead
> of 4 inches failed in the early 80s.
>
> And let's not forget the US was the first country to implement a
> metric currency, in 1792. They replaced the old "reales" or bits --
> 1/8 of a Peso or Dollar -- with cents.
>
> With the metric system restraint is suggested. Using Imperial is better in
> many instances.
>
> Imagine a metric clock
> Imagine stumping a toe on your meter.
> Imagine the casualties when upping the speed limit from 70 MPH to 112 KMPH.
> Imagine the waste in time enunciating a metric measurement.
>
In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
Maybe if gas in the US was sold by the liter Lew would feel better about
the prices. :-)
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 4/12/11 10:38 AM, Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> On Apr 12, 6:35 am, FrozenNorth<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On 4/12/11 9:10 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Luigi Zanasi"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:7afcd49c-1bbe-4c20-82ca-fb12ac5b5173@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Apr 11, 3:35 pm, Robatoy<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>
>>> I was somewwhat surpirsed at the continued use of English, US and
>>> Spanish customary units in Central America, despite the official
>>> "metric" status.
>>
>>> Belize still sells gas in real gallons and speed limits are in mph
>>> while Guatemala and Panama sell gas in puny gallons.
>>> Woodworkers everywhere use pulgadas (inches) and centimetros, and most
>>> tape measures I saw in hardware stores had both inches and
>>> centimetres. In Cuba, I guy a talked to mentioned needing 2 pulgada
>>> nails for the house he was building.
>>
>>> Central Americans also use a Spanish yard, known as a vara. In Costa
>>> Rica, their eminently droolable-over wood is sold by the "pulgada",
>>> which is one nominal pulgada (inch) by one inch by four varas long.
>>> It's a little less than a board-foot. $3.00 per pulgada at the sawmill
>>> for some incredible tropical hardwoods. I gotta figure out a way of
>>> bringing back a container load or two.
>>
>>> In Italy, my plumber cousin measures his pipe diameters in inches, but
>>> the lengths are in metres and centimetres. In France, where the whole
>>> metric thing started, one does not order 500 grams of whaterver food
>>> at the butcher or grocer, but "une livre", a pound of whatever. In
>>> Canada, our residential construction is still in inches and feet. The
>>> attempt to hard convert plywood and to move to a 100mm module instead
>>> of 4 inches failed in the early 80s.
>>
>>> And let's not forget the US was the first country to implement a
>>> metric currency, in 1792. They replaced the old "reales" or bits --
>>> 1/8 of a Peso or Dollar -- with cents.
>>
>>> With the metric system restraint is suggested. Using Imperial is better in
>>> many instances.
>>
>>> Imagine a metric clock
>>> Imagine stumping a toe on your meter.
>>> Imagine the casualties when upping the speed limit from 70 MPH to 112 KMPH.
>>> Imagine the waste in time enunciating a metric measurement.
>>
>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>
> Ackshally, the Autoroutes in Quebec did have 70 mph speed limits in
> the early 1970s when I learned to drive, but they brought them down to
> 60 in the late 70s, before they got turned to kilometres.
>
Quebec, go figure, mid to late 70s when I learned to drive, and that was
in Ontario. I know my parents drove in Quebec when I was a kid, and my
dad always cursed the province, but in the backseat I never noticed, or
cared. :-)
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 4/12/11 10:58 AM, Upscale wrote:
> "Luigi Zanasi"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Ackshally, the Autoroutes in Quebec did have 70 mph speed limits in
>> the early 1970s when I learned to drive, but they brought them down to
>> 60 in the late 70s, before they got turned to kilometres.
>
> Yup. I lived in Montreal for 12 years and remember those 70 mph posted
> speeds.
>
>
I stand corrected. First time I actually drove in Quebec would have
been around 1987 if memory serves, course nobody here is likely to
correct me on that. :-)
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 4/12/11 5:19 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>
> 110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
> the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
> while since I've driven it in the prairies.
>
> I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
> wrong.
Here the posted limit is 100 kph on major highways, but if you try and
drive less than 110 to 115 you get someone running up your ass,
conditions apply. :-)
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
In article <120420111519599518%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>
>110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
>the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
>while since I've driven it in the prairies.
>
>I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
>wrong.
No, you're not wrong. I remember a trip from Indianapolis to Seattle, via
Calgary, that I took with my parents in 1975, less than a year after I
started driving. We were limited to 55mph in the U.S., but parts of the
Trans-Canada Highway were 70mph. I'm pretty sure that when I drove to Otttawa
in 1980, via Niagara Falls and Toronto, that the highway speed limit was 70mph
most of the way in Ontario, too, though still limited to 55 here in the
States.
"Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>>
>>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international" the
>>> English language became with a little time...
>>
>> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day ??
>>
>
> Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
>
Comes from the French "gardez le eau!", when chucking the contents of the
chamber pot out the window.
--
Ever wonder why doctors, dentists and lawyers have to Practice so much? Ever
wonder why you let them Practice on You?
On 4/12/11 11:34 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> In article<120420111519599518%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave Balderstone<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>>
>> 110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
>> the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
>> while since I've driven it in the prairies.
>>
>> I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
>> wrong.
>
> No, you're not wrong. I remember a trip from Indianapolis to Seattle, via
> Calgary, that I took with my parents in 1975, less than a year after I
> started driving. We were limited to 55mph in the U.S., but parts of the
> Trans-Canada Highway were 70mph. I'm pretty sure that when I drove to Otttawa
> in 1980, via Niagara Falls and Toronto, that the highway speed limit was 70mph
> most of the way in Ontario, too, though still limited to 55 here in the
> States.
Through Toronto, no way, in 1980, 401 had a 60 MPH or 100 KPH limit, I
would remember that as I live here and drive the highways now. I do
*not* remember them reducing the limit.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Leon wrote:
> "FrozenNorth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/12/11 11:34 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>>> In article<120420111519599518%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
>>> Dave Balderstone<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>>> In article<[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>>>>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>>>>
>>>> 110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I
>>>> think the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but
>>>> it's been a while since I've driven it in the prairies.
>>>>
>>>> I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could
>>>> be wrong.
>>>
>>> No, you're not wrong. I remember a trip from Indianapolis to
>>> Seattle, via Calgary, that I took with my parents in 1975, less
>>> than a year after I started driving. We were limited to 55mph in
>>> the U.S., but parts of the Trans-Canada Highway were 70mph. I'm
>>> pretty sure that when I drove to Otttawa
>>> in 1980, via Niagara Falls and Toronto, that the highway speed
>>> limit was 70mph
>>> most of the way in Ontario, too, though still limited to 55 here in
>>> the States.
>>
>> Through Toronto, no way, in 1980, 401 had a 60 MPH or 100 KPH limit,
>> I would remember that as I live here and drive the highways now. I
>> do *not* remember them reducing the limit.
>
>
> During the last years that Nixon was in office, he brought the speed
> limit down from 70 to 55. So that all happened some where around
> 72~74. We were all going to save so much gas by doing this that it
> was beyond our realms of imagination.
then, there's this:
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/08/texas-speed-limit-may-reach-85-mph/
In article <[email protected]>, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"FrozenNorth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 4/12/11 11:34 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>>> In article<120420111519599518%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave
>>> Balderstone<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>>> In article<[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>>>>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>>>>
>>>> 110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
>>>> the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
>>>> while since I've driven it in the prairies.
>>>>
>>>> I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
>>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> No, you're not wrong. I remember a trip from Indianapolis to Seattle, via
>>> Calgary, that I took with my parents in 1975, less than a year after I
>>> started driving. We were limited to 55mph in the U.S., but parts of the
>>> Trans-Canada Highway were 70mph. I'm pretty sure that when I drove to
>>> Otttawa
>>> in 1980, via Niagara Falls and Toronto, that the highway speed limit was
>>> 70mph
>>> most of the way in Ontario, too, though still limited to 55 here in the
>>> States.
>>
>> Through Toronto, no way,
No, indeed, not through Toronto. But then, I didn't say that. I said "most of
the way in Ontario".
>> in 1980, 401 had a 60 MPH or 100 KPH limit, I
>> would remember that as I live here and drive the highways now. I do *not*
>> remember them reducing the limit.
I think the road between Toronto and Ottawa had a 70mph limit back then. Of
course, I could be wrong -- it's been a few years, after all...
In article <[email protected]>, "chaniarts" <[email protected]> wrote:
>then, there's this:
>
>http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/08/texas-speed-limit-may-reach-85-mph/
A few years ago, coming back to Indy from Huntsville AL, it seemed like the de
facto speed limit on I-65 in Tennessee was already 85mph -- I know that going
80 in the left lane, there were pissed-off drivers behind me who thought I
wasn't going fast enough...
On 4/13/11 8:36 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, "Leon"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> "FrozenNorth"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 4/12/11 11:34 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>>>> In article<120420111519599518%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>, Dave
>>>> Balderstone<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article<[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Canada, we never did have, to the best of my recollection 70MPH
>>>>>> limits, highways went from 60 MPH to 100 KPH.
>>>>>
>>>>> 110 kph is normal for twinned highways here in Sask and Alta. I think
>>>>> the Trans-Canada Hwy is 110 for long stretches also, but it's been a
>>>>> while since I've driven it in the prairies.
>>>>>
>>>>> I *think* I remember 70 mph from my youth in Manitoba, but I could be
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> No, you're not wrong. I remember a trip from Indianapolis to Seattle, via
>>>> Calgary, that I took with my parents in 1975, less than a year after I
>>>> started driving. We were limited to 55mph in the U.S., but parts of the
>>>> Trans-Canada Highway were 70mph. I'm pretty sure that when I drove to
>>>> Otttawa
>>>> in 1980, via Niagara Falls and Toronto, that the highway speed limit was
>>>> 70mph
>>>> most of the way in Ontario, too, though still limited to 55 here in the
>>>> States.
>>>
>>> Through Toronto, no way,
>
> No, indeed, not through Toronto. But then, I didn't say that. I said "most of
> the way in Ontario".
Still doubting it. PPOSTFU.
>
>>> in 1980, 401 had a 60 MPH or 100 KPH limit, I
>>> would remember that as I live here and drive the highways now. I do *not*
>>> remember them reducing the limit.
>
> I think the road between Toronto and Ottawa had a 70mph limit back then. Of
> course, I could be wrong -- it's been a few years, after all...
There is no single multi-lane road from Toronto to Ottawa, if you are
talking highway #7, forget about it, single lane in many spots, there is
no way that ever had that limit. Totally unsafe at that speed as it
goes through *many* small towns.
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Doug Miller wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, "chaniarts"<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> then, there's this:
>>
>> http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/08/texas-speed-limit-may-reach-85-mph/
>
> A few years ago, coming back to Indy from Huntsville AL, it seemed like the de
> facto speed limit on I-65 in Tennessee was already 85mph -- I know that going
> 80 in the left lane, there were pissed-off drivers behind me who thought I
> wasn't going fast enough...
It's like that for a stretch when you go from I-69 onto I-94 (east) in
Michigan. It's sort of exhilarating.
Bill
"Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/12/2011 10:37 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>> "Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>>>> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international" the
>>>>> English language became with a little time...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day ??
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
>>>
>>
>> Comes from the French "gardez le eau!", when chucking the contents of
>> the chamber pot out the window.
>>
> That's only one of many possibilities, see
> http://kottke.org/05/02/loo-etymology
>
> But it remains funny to say "Maybe the Americans will learn to use the
> English language one day" when so much of the English language derives
> from French, Spanish, German, etc.
Interesting site, thanks.
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"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just Wondering <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 4/12/2011 10:37 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>> "Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>>>>> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international"
>>>>>> the English language became with a little time...
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day
>>>>> ??
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Comes from the French "gardez le eau!", when chucking the contents of
>>> the chamber pot out the window.
>>>
>> That's only one of many possibilities, see
>> http://kottke.org/05/02/loo-etymology
>>
>> But it remains funny to say "Maybe the Americans will learn to use the
>> English language one day" when so much of the English language derives
>> from French, Spanish, German, etc.
>
> It's time for this obligatory story.
> I moved to the US in 1969. Arriving at JFK Airport, I felt a need.
> However, I couldn't find a toilet or WC (the European designations I was
> used to), only restrooms - but I didn't have a need to rest!! Upoon
> inquiry, my vocabulary was expanded ...
>
Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the Gare
du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding the
appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just a hole in
the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was normal ....
The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
Then there was the woman mopping the men's room asking me to lift my feet as
I stood at the urinal ...
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>
>>
>> That's debatable.
>
> So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>
>
Montgolfier
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"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the
>>Gare
>>du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding the
>>appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just a hole
>>in
>>the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was normal ....
>
> Luckily, I've never seen those, just heard about 'em.
>
In the middle of the project I began racking my brain trying to remember
whether or not I'd buttoned the hip pocket I kept my wallet in. I had, but
after that experience I started carrying left front.
>
>>The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
>
> Who ever thought up a toilet which _pisses_back_?
My thyoughts Zackly at the time!
>
>
>>Then there was the woman mopping the men's room asking me to lift my feet
>>as
>>I stood at the urinal ...
>
> Turn around, act surprised, and ask "What?" without stopping the flow.
>
It's amazing how rapidly it stops by its ownself when a woman is whispering
"miss you! miss you!" in yer ear ...
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"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Apr 14, 5:42 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:45:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Ahhh, the joys of foreign toilets. First visit to Paris and I'm in the
> >Gare
> >du Nord and feel an urgent need to sit down. No problem finding the
> >appropriate place, but none of the stalls had a "toilet bowl" just a hole
> >in
> >the floor. After much discussion I was assured that this was normal ....
>
> Luckily, I've never seen those, just heard about 'em.
They would save all the paper USians put on their toilet seats. But
you gotta learn to squat.
> >The bidet in my hotel room was also a source of some confusion.
>
> Who ever thought up a toilet which _pisses_back_?
Sale cochon américain qui ne se lave pas le cul après avoir chié!
(Dirty pig american who not washes himself the arse after have shit!)
Some musings on US toilets I wrote on the PUD blog back in November
2009. (http://pickuptruckdiaries.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/in-
portlands-clutch/) OBWW there is also a description of my visit to
Gary Rogowski's school on that blog posting.
I observed a custome in all those American Cities and Townes through
which I passed, that is not used in any other country that I saw in my
travels, neither do I thinke that any other nation of Christendome
doth use it, but only the United States. The American, and also most
strangers that are commorant in the United States, does alwaies, at
their aisance use a circular strip of paper to cover that part of the
seat that their arse doth touch. This form of shitting I understand is
generally used in all places of the United States, their seat covers
being for the most part made of paper. The reason of this their
curiosity, is because the American cannot by any means endure to have
his arse touch the same place other mens arses have touched, seeing
all mens arses are not alike cleane.
------------------------------------------------------------
When I lived in Ohio, they were called "University of Michigan Diplomas".
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:57:42 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 14, 8:09 pm, "[email protected]"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >On Apr 13, 11:46 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
>>> >> > [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> >> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >> >>news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>>> >> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>>
>>> >> >> That's debatable.
>>>
>>> >> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>>>
>>> >> Montgolfier
>>>
>>> >They were in fact the first humans to fly.
>>>
>>> >The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
>>> >Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
>>> >the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
>>> >print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
>>>
>>> Bernouli had long been proven right. The Wrights were just the first
>>> ones to:
>>>
>>> - do the engineering needed to design the wings,
>>> - figure out how to *control* the process (wing warping was
>>> the major invention)
>>> - and most importantly, get a power plant with sufficient
>>> power to weight ratio
>>
>>They did a wonderful job applying someone else's original thought.
>
> Yes, that's why I said "engineering", not "science".
>
>>The light bulb was a true invention. An original thought developed
>>into a world-changing idea.
>
> No, that was hard-knocks engineering. No theory at all; technicians'
> work.
> Everyone know how to make a light bulb. No one knew how to make a
> practical
> bulb. The process was simply trial an error.
>
>>Rockets have been old hat for centuries, all NASA did was develop the
>>concept to the n-th degree.
>
> Sure. Goddard did the first liquid-fueled rocket, some thousand years
> after
> the first solid-fueled rocket.
>
>>The space program was filled with inventions which made all that
>>possible, from computers to material sciences, but the root concept
>>was at least a thousand years old, if not more.
>
> The space program provided billions of bucks and more importantly a
> challenge;
> a reason to invent, as it were.
>
>>That cannot be said about the lightbulb. Velcro was a rip-off from a
>>thistle....no pun intended.
>
> By that logic, there are no inventions.
Paper clip. Maybe. Most other stuff is found in Nature. Including the arch.
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On 13 Apr 2011 11:28:06 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just Wondering <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 4/12/2011 10:37 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>> "Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>>>>> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international"
>>>>>> the English language became with a little time...
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day
>>>>> ??
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Comes from the French "gardez le eau!", when chucking the contents of
>>> the chamber pot out the window.
>>>
>> That's only one of many possibilities, see
>> http://kottke.org/05/02/loo-etymology
>>
>> But it remains funny to say "Maybe the Americans will learn to use the
>> English language one day" when so much of the English language derives
>> from French, Spanish, German, etc.
>
>It's time for this obligatory story.
>I moved to the US in 1969. Arriving at JFK Airport, I felt a need.
>However, I couldn't find a toilet or WC (the European designations I was
>used to), only restrooms - but I didn't have a need to rest!! Upoon
>inquiry, my vocabulary was expanded ...
<g> Maybe you should have asked for the "stand and shake it" room?
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noblest and, in its original founding principles,
the only moral country in the history of the world.
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"Just Wondering" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/12/2011 12:45 AM, George W Frost wrote:
>> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>>
>>> We use it--just not unless we have to. Amazing how "international" the
>>> English language became with a little time...
>>
>> Maybe the Americans will learn to use the English language one day ??
>>
>
> Like saying loo when we really mean toilet?
>
Loo?
Toilet?
Bathroom?
or even the OZ Dunny
Nah, it is just a shithouse subject.
"Larry W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>
> Can't speak for Burma, but we most certainly DO use the metric system in
> the USA. (Though not for everything of course)
>
Our measurement system is based on metric. Our inch is defined as 25.4mm,
the metric measure being the standard.
"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>Because the airplane was an American invention.
That's debatable.
Larry W wrote the following:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
>>
>
> Can't speak for Burma, but we most certainly DO use the metric system in
> the USA. (Though not for everything of course)
Science and military. Oh, and one more thing, large soda bottles.
--
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:57:42 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Apr 14, 8:09 pm, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Apr 13, 11:46 pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> >> > [email protected] says...
>>
>> >> >> "Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:bfea7f25-769d-4a26-a1c2-cabaa3fbc6c7@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >Because the airplane was an American invention.
>>
>> >> >> That's debatable.
>>
>> >> > So who outside the US made a documented flight before the Wrights?
>>
>> >> Montgolfier
>>
>> >They were in fact the first humans to fly.
>>
>> >The principle of the Wright Brothers flight was already documented by
>> >Daniel Bernoulli (Born 8 February 1700 Groningen, Netherlands). All
>> >the Wright Brothers did was prove him right... he handed them a blue-
>> >print in how to fly..so what did they invent?
>>
>> Bernouli had long been proven right. The Wrights were just the first ones to:
>>
>> - do the engineering needed to design the wings,
>> - figure out how to *control* the process (wing warping was
>> the major invention)
>> - and most importantly, get a power plant with sufficient
>> power to weight ratio
>
>They did a wonderful job applying someone else's original thought.
Yes, that's why I said "engineering", not "science".
>The light bulb was a true invention. An original thought developed
>into a world-changing idea.
No, that was hard-knocks engineering. No theory at all; technicians' work.
Everyone know how to make a light bulb. No one knew how to make a practical
bulb. The process was simply trial an error.
>Rockets have been old hat for centuries, all NASA did was develop the
>concept to the n-th degree.
Sure. Goddard did the first liquid-fueled rocket, some thousand years after
the first solid-fueled rocket.
>The space program was filled with inventions which made all that
>possible, from computers to material sciences, but the root concept
>was at least a thousand years old, if not more.
The space program provided billions of bucks and more importantly a challenge;
a reason to invent, as it were.
>That cannot be said about the lightbulb. Velcro was a rip-off from a
>thistle....no pun intended.
By that logic, there are no inventions.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> Bernouli had long been proven right. The Wrights were just the first ones
> to:
>
> - do the engineering needed to design the wings,
Not a first but an accomplishment using matirieals and construction
techniques of the time.
> - figure out how to *control* the process (wing warping was
> the major invention)
Wing warping had been used before but had not been patented. The Wright
Bros. patended it.
> - and most importantly, get a power plant with sufficient
> power to weight ratio
The engine they built was their most notable achievement.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
Guess some US spy agency infiltrated the Burmese office of weights and
measures.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Metric.jpg
We're BI here. Newbies are all metricated, oldsters are all SAE, some
of us are using both: whatever method works whenever.
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The bad news: There is no key to the Universe.
The good news: It was never locked.
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