"Andrew Barss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> : With that in mind I have both tracks. The TS 55 comes with the 55"
> track,
> : the TS 75 comes with the 75" track. If you think you will end up with
> both
> : tracks the price difference between the TS 55 and TS 75 becomes much
> : smaller. The 75" track is much more pricey per inch than the 55" track.
>
> : Getting both tracks and the TS 75 saw at 10% off, IIRC there was less
> than a
> : $50 difference over the TS 55 and both tracks.
>
>
> Thanks for the advice. Is it really useful, or just kinda useful?
> I can manhandle sheets of plywood onto my cabinet saw, but the cuts aren't
> always totally straight (I have yet to build a proper outfeed table), and
> given that my shop is small, if I could restrict the cutting of 8' stuff
> mostly to the Festool that would make it a LOT easier to position the TS
> where it doesn't completely dominate the shop.
>
> -- Andy
To tell you the truth I have not used it much but business is kinda slow.
I, like you, bought mine for cutting up sheet goods. It does a stellar job
at that and the cuts equal those from my cabinetsaw. After making a cut it
is dfficult to find any thing wrong. I am not getting any younger and do
have a 15 roller out feed on my TS but that does not help with getting the
material up on the TS and pushing in a straight line if you are ripping a
sheet of plywood. I have built a cutting grid that I set on top of 2 saw
horses. I lay the plywood up there and make the cuts with the TS75. Much
easier than crawling around on the ground. You "will" get totally straight
cuts.
All in all you can still make a crooked cut on a TS even with outfeed
support With long enough tracks the track saw cuts very straight lines
efforlessly.
I believe that after cutting a few dozen sheets of plywood the tool will
have paid for it self just from the comfort and ease factor.
AND if you get the Festool vac with it, there is a greater discount than
just the 10% AND dust from the saw is relatively non existant AND the with
the combination of the saw and vac both are much quieter than the typical
circular saw.
All in all it is hard to justify spending that much money for a circular saw
but over time you probably will not think back. The saw is a joy to use.
On 8/3/2010 5:31 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> On Aug 3, 4:51 pm, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> http://festoolownersgroup.com
>
> You do know you're supposed to say BWAHAHAHAHAHA! when you introduce
> someone to Festool and FOG, right? ;)
;)
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On Jul 29, 2:55=A0pm, Andrew Barss <[email protected]> wrote:
> There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
> tempted. =A0Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one? =A0I have a good tabl=
esaw,
> but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
> Festool is REALLY appealing. =A0
>
> -- Andy Barss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlmSPlokQffk
On Aug 3, 4:51=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> http://festoolownersgroup.com
You do know you're supposed to say BWAHAHAHAHAHA! when you introduce
someone to Festool and FOG, right? ;)
R
On Jul 29, 1:55=A0pm, Andrew Barss <[email protected]> wrote:
> There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
> tempted. =A0Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one? =A0I have a good tabl=
esaw,
> but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
> Festool is REALLY appealing. =A0
I bought the TS-55, pretty much just to break down sheet goods for the
table saw. I didn't see any reason to go for the larger TS-75, though
the price difference is minimal (considering the cost of the 75" rail).
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:38:26 -0400, Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:43:40 -0500, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>One more thought... I decided to make the FesteringTool plunge because the
>>TS-55 really wasn't that out-of-line when compared to its competition. A
>>Dewalt (corded) TrackSaw is $500, which is right in the FesteringTool range.
>
>The last workshop show I went to over a year ago had demos of both
>saws. I didn't (was allowed) to go up and physically examine the cuts
>that both saws made, but as far as I could determine, they were both
>equally capable when it came to cutting.
>
>That being said, Festool has a better reputation for quality and
>customer support. Add onto that the FOG (Festool Owner's Group) which
>is a virtual gold mine of support, ideas, designs and everything else,
>you really can't lose with Festool. I had a temporary problem with my
>CT22 vacuum and after posting a message on FOG, I had two responses
>from Festool employees the same day as well as various responses from
>other Festool users.
>
>Go check out the FOG newsgroup and you'll see what kind of support
>there is. BTW, the 10% off sale ends TODAY.
Didn't know about the FOG. Thanks!
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>>RicodJour wrote:
>>
>>You do know you're supposed to say BWAHAHAHAHAHA! when you introduce
>>someone to Festool and FOG, right? ;)
>
> As with potato chips, I betcha can't go-into-hock with just one.
BIOYA, Jaques. ;-)
Max (caught in the vicious cycle)
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 05:35:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 15:31:03 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 3, 4:51 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://festoolownersgroup.com
>>
>>You do know you're supposed to say BWAHAHAHAHAHA! when you introduce
>>someone to Festool and FOG, right? ;)
>
>As with potato chips, I betcha can't go-into-hock with just one.
Heck, a rail costs as much as most other power tools.
...off to Woodcraft to buy a rail, if they have them.
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 08:59:50 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>RicodJour wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>You do know you're supposed to say BWAHAHAHAHAHA! when you introduce
>>>someone to Festool and FOG, right? ;)
>>
>> As with potato chips, I betcha can't go-into-hock with just one.
>
>BIOYA, Jaques. ;-)
>
>Max (caught in the vicious cycle)
It sounds as if that'd hurt, you Festering addict, you.
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:55:32 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
>tempted. Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one? I have a good tablesaw,
>but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
>Festool is REALLY appealing.
Sale ends today, July 30, 2010. Better decide quickly.
On Jul 29, 4:34=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Andrew Barss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > : With that in mind I have both tracks. =A0The TS 55 comes with the 55"
> > track,
> > : the TS 75 comes with the 75" =A0track. =A0If you think you will end u=
p with
> > both
> > : tracks the price difference between the TS 55 and TS 75 becomes much
> > : smaller. =A0The 75" track is much more pricey per inch than the 55" t=
rack.
>
> > : Getting both tracks and the TS 75 saw at 10% off, IIRC there was less
> > than a
> > : $50 difference over the TS 55 and both tracks.
>
> > Thanks for the advice. =A0Is it really useful, or just kinda useful?
> > I can manhandle sheets of plywood onto my cabinet saw, but the cuts are=
n't
> > always totally straight (I have yet to build a proper outfeed table), a=
nd
> > given that my shop is small, if I could restrict the cutting of 8' stuf=
f
> > mostly to the Festool that would make it a LOT easier to position the T=
S
> > where it doesn't completely dominate the shop.
>
> > -- Andy
>
> To tell you the truth I have not used it much but business is kinda slow.
> I, like you, bought mine for cutting up sheet goods. =A0It does a stellar=
job
> at that and the cuts equal those from my cabinetsaw. =A0After making a cu=
t it
> is dfficult to find any thing wrong. =A0I am not getting any younger and =
do
> have a 15 roller out feed on my TS but that does not help with getting th=
e
> material up on the TS and pushing in a straight line if you are ripping a
> sheet of plywood. =A0I have built a cutting grid that I set on top of 2 s=
aw
> horses. =A0I lay the plywood up there and make the cuts with the TS75. =
=A0Much
> easier than crawling around on the ground. =A0You "will" get totally stra=
ight
> cuts.
>
> All in all you can still make a crooked cut on a TS even with outfeed
> support =A0With long enough tracks the track saw cuts very straight lines
> efforlessly.
> I believe that after cutting a few dozen sheets of plywood the tool will
> have paid for it self just from the comfort and ease factor.
> AND if you get the Festool vac with it, there is a greater discount than
> just the 10% AND dust from the saw is relatively non existant AND the wit=
h
> the combination of the saw and vac both are much quieter than the typical
> circular saw.
>
> All in all it is hard to justify spending that much money for a circular =
saw
> but over time you probably will not think back. =A0The saw is a joy to us=
e.
In a perfect world one would own one of each.
> .....=A0Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one? =A0I have a good tablesaw=
,
> but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
> Festool is REALLY appealing. ...
I got the TS55, the vacuum and the table. The larger saw wasn't
available at that time.
I cut up my sheetgoods on a vertical panel saw, and the most useful
aspect for the TS55 has been to cut accurate bevels. I easily and
accurately cut a slab for an angled table leg. Any other method would
have been a nightmare.
I had to cut up a heavy slab of bubunga for a table top that I
couldn't lift singlehandedly. I left it on the bed of my pickup, put a
sheet of foam insulation under it, and cut it precisely with the TS55.
I don't use it that often, but has saved my ass when I needed it.
Joel
"Andrew Barss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
> tempted. Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one? I have a good tablesaw,
> but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
> Festool is REALLY appealing.
>
> -- Andy Barss
>
I pondered the TS 55 and TS 75, got the TS 75 for its greater capaicity.
Additionally, the combination of the 75" and 55" track will cut a 4x8
sheet of plywood diagonally. The track needs to be longer than the cut BTY.
With that in mind I have both tracks. The TS 55 comes with the 55" track,
the TS 75 comes with the 75" track. If you think you will end up with both
tracks the price difference between the TS 55 and TS 75 becomes much
smaller. The 75" track is much more pricey per inch than the 55" track.
Getting both tracks and the TS 75 saw at 10% off, IIRC there was less than a
$50 difference over the TS 55 and both tracks.
The TS 55 is easier to handle over the TS 75, but that really is only a
concern when pulling it out of the Systainer and setting it on the track.
Once you set it on the track there is little more effort to actually use the
saw, it slides that easily on the track.
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:43:40 -0500, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>One more thought... I decided to make the FesteringTool plunge because the
>TS-55 really wasn't that out-of-line when compared to its competition. A
>Dewalt (corded) TrackSaw is $500, which is right in the FesteringTool range.
The last workshop show I went to over a year ago had demos of both
saws. I didn't (was allowed) to go up and physically examine the cuts
that both saws made, but as far as I could determine, they were both
equally capable when it came to cutting.
That being said, Festool has a better reputation for quality and
customer support. Add onto that the FOG (Festool Owner's Group) which
is a virtual gold mine of support, ideas, designs and everything else,
you really can't lose with Festool. I had a temporary problem with my
CT22 vacuum and after posting a message on FOG, I had two responses
from Festool employees the same day as well as various responses from
other Festool users.
Go check out the FOG newsgroup and you'll see what kind of support
there is. BTW, the 10% off sale ends TODAY.
Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
: With that in mind I have both tracks. The TS 55 comes with the 55" track,
: the TS 75 comes with the 75" track. If you think you will end up with both
: tracks the price difference between the TS 55 and TS 75 becomes much
: smaller. The 75" track is much more pricey per inch than the 55" track.
: Getting both tracks and the TS 75 saw at 10% off, IIRC there was less than a
: $50 difference over the TS 55 and both tracks.
Thanks for the advice. Is it really useful, or just kinda useful?
I can manhandle sheets of plywood onto my cabinet saw, but the cuts aren't
always totally straight (I have yet to build a proper outfeed table), and
given that my shop is small, if I could restrict the cutting of 8' stuff
mostly to the Festool that would make it a LOT easier to position the TS
where it doesn't completely dominate the shop.
-- Andy
Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
: On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:55:32 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
: <[email protected]> wrote:
:>
:>There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
:>tempted. Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one? I have a good tablesaw,
:>but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
:>Festool is REALLY appealing.
: Sale ends today, July 30, 2010. Better decide quickly.
It ends tomorrow, July 31st.
-- Andy Barss
Andrew Barss wrote:
> There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
> tempted. Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one?
http://tinyurl.com/2fu5aeu
I have a good tablesaw,
> but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
> Festool is REALLY appealing.
> -- Andy Barss
--
Jack
Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
http://jbstein.com
Leon wrote:
> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Andrew Barss wrote:
>>> There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
>>> tempted. Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one?
>> http://tinyurl.com/2fu5aeu
>> I have a good tablesaw,
> Cut a 4x8 sheet of plywood in half from opposite corners on your TS. LOL
Your quote is off base.
Andy said this:
> I have a good tablesaw,
> but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with
> the Festool is REALLY appealing. --
I simply gave him a reason NOT to get one.... did you follow the link I
gave him? It simply shows a guy that has BOTH the Festool and the
Makita and he likes the Makita better.
--
Jack
http://jbstein.com
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:11:39 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>always totally straight (I have yet to build a proper outfeed table), and
>given that my shop is small, if I could restrict the cutting of 8' stuff
>mostly to the Festool that would make it a LOT easier to position the TS
>where it doesn't completely dominate the shop.
You'd need some type of table or perhaps enough floor space with a
foam underlay to use it. I just bought the TS55 and although I know it
will certainly be useful, (my user requirements are kind of unique
which explains my purchase) I might have reconsidered the purchase if
I had an area to use a tablesaw. Building a decent outfeed table which
can also double as a decent working surface would be considerably
cheaper and almost as useful.
The decision for me would have rested on how decent a tablesaw I had
with a quality blade in it and working space with an outfeed table.
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 13:05:51 -0400, Jack Stein <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I simply gave him a reason NOT to get one.... did you follow the link I
>gave him? It simply shows a guy that has BOTH the Festool and the
>Makita and he likes the Makita better.
Kind of strange though if he's bought both those tools. Which brings
up the suggestion that his opinion might be open to question. Of
course, he'll never be as strange as you, but he's working on it.
And since your reply will tell me to go to hell or something else more
profane, I'll get my comments in first by stating that you're an
asshole of a Jackass. :)
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:55:32 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
>tempted. Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one? I have a good tablesaw,
>but the ability to deal with sheet goods and natural-edge boards with the
>Festool is REALLY appealing.
One more thought... I decided to make the FesteringTool plunge because the
TS-55 really wasn't that out-of-line when compared to its competition. A
Dewalt (corded) TrackSaw is $500, which is right in the FesteringTool range.
"Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Andrew Barss wrote:
>> There's a 10% off detail on this (expensive) saw, and I am seriously
>> tempted. Anyone have any reasons NOT to get one?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2fu5aeu
>
>
>
> I have a good tablesaw,
Cut a 4x8 sheet of plywood in half from opposite corners on your TS. LOL
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:37:00 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>: Sale ends today, July 30, 2010. Better decide quickly.
>
>It ends tomorrow, July 31st.
The store where I buy from has it ending today. Guess it's a choice
for different stores.
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 15:31:03 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Aug 3, 4:51 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> http://festoolownersgroup.com
>
>You do know you're supposed to say BWAHAHAHAHAHA! when you introduce
>someone to Festool and FOG, right? ;)
As with potato chips, I betcha can't go-into-hock with just one.
--
Ohmigawd! Starting over on new computer with no sigs yet!
On 8/3/2010 3:47 PM, Victor H. wrote:
> Cannot find the FOG newsgroup. Could you please tell us the address.
> Thanks.
>
> Vic
>>
>> Go check out the FOG newsgroup and you'll see what kind of support
>> there is. BTW, the 10% off sale ends TODAY.
http://festoolownersgroup.com
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