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Kenefick

09/06/2012 5:06 PM

decal on wood

Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? Did it adhere well? What type
of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.

Mike in Ohio


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"EXT"

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

09/06/2012 8:03 PM


"Kenefick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? Did it adhere well? What type
> of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.
>
> Mike in Ohio

Are you meaning a real "Decal" which is called a Decalcomania, which is
nothing more than a paint film that you slide off gummed paper after wetting
it. It will only stick to smooth non-porous surfaces not bare wood. It can
be sealed but some lacquers and varnishes may damage the decal.

Or are you meaning self-adhesive label, that some people call a decal, that
you stick onto the surface. Bare wood will dry out the adhesive causing the
label to eventually drop off. It should also be stuck to a non-porous
surface. Coating may damage the inks, vinyl, paper or adhesive.

Decoupage, sometimes confused with a decal, is covered by another reply.

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

09/06/2012 8:11 PM



On 6/9/2012 8:03 PM, EXT wrote:
>
> "Kenefick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? Did it adhere well? What type
>> of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.
>>
>> Mike in Ohio
>
> Are you meaning a real "Decal" which is called a Decalcomania, which is
> nothing more than a paint film that you slide off gummed paper after
> wetting it. It will only stick to smooth non-porous surfaces not bare
> wood. It can be sealed but some lacquers and varnishes may damage the
> decal.

I have mounted the above decals to wood after sealing. I have made
propellers for awards and mounted the likeness of the decals from
propeller manufacturers on it.Seal it with dewaxed shellac, or lacquer
before applying.

I don't know how they survived as I lost touch with that group of people.


>
> Or are you meaning self-adhesive label, that some people call a decal,
> that you stick onto the surface. Bare wood will dry out the adhesive
> causing the label to eventually drop off. It should also be stuck to a
> non-porous surface. Coating may damage the inks, vinyl, paper or adhesive.
>
> Decoupage, sometimes confused with a decal, is covered by another reply.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

10/06/2012 7:09 AM

Bill wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Kenefick wrote:
>>>> Yes, after painting. But would I varnish first or do that after to
>>>> help protect the decal?
>>>
>>> If there is much as stake here, do a "practice run" with a decal
>>> similar to the one you plan to use and a piece of wood you don't
>>> care about. Then after a suitable amount of time, see what it takes
>>> to scratch the decal off. I've seen decals hold up quite well
>>> without any additional protection. Everything just depends, depends,
>>> depends...
>>
>> Not so much. This is a pretty well explored and developed
>> technique. It works.
>
> You should write a book so everyone will know.

Don't have to - people have already been posting about it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

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Sonny

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

09/06/2012 4:51 PM

On Jun 9, 5:04=A0pm, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kenefick wrote:
> > Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? =A0Did it adhere well? =A0What=
type
> > of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.
>
> > Mike in Ohio
>
> You mean over a painted or varnished surface, don't you?

Decoupage? I think lacquer is used to coat a decoupage and the wood
is prepped, somehow, prior to the application. For the very thin
paper used in most decoupage, there is a particular technique for
applying it. I don't recall the specific name of the thin paper, but
it's similar to the light paper used in packaging delicate gifts, more
often womens' gifts. Tissue paper of some kind. Maybe do a search
for decoupage applicating.

Otherwise, a decal, as I understand them, is a thick paper tape
application. I would suppose lacquer would be appropriate for coating
that, also, as long as the decal doesn't have some sort of wax finish/
coating on the decal face, itself.

Sonny

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

10/06/2012 12:02 AM

Bill wrote:
> Kenefick wrote:
>> Yes, after painting. But would I varnish first or do that after to
>> help protect the decal?
>
> If there is much as stake here, do a "practice run" with a decal
> similar to the one you plan to use and a piece of wood you don't care
> about. Then after a suitable amount of time, see what it takes to
> scratch the decal off. I've seen decals hold up quite well without
> any additional protection. Everything just depends, depends,
> depends...

Not so much. This is a pretty well explored and developed technique. It
works.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

BB

Bill

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

09/06/2012 6:04 PM

Kenefick wrote:
> Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? Did it adhere well? What type
> of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.
>
> Mike in Ohio

You mean over a painted or varnished surface, don't you?

BB

Bill

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

09/06/2012 11:18 PM

Kenefick wrote:
> Yes, after painting. But would I varnish first or do that after to help
> protect the decal?

If there is much as stake here, do a "practice run" with a decal similar
to the one you plan to use and a piece of wood you don't care about.
Then after a suitable amount of time, see what it takes to scratch the
decal off. I've seen decals hold up quite well without any additional
protection. Everything just depends, depends, depends...


>
> > You mean over a painted or varnished surface, don't you?
> On 6/9/2012 6:04 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Kenefick wrote:
>>> Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? Did it adhere well? What type
>>> of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.
>>>
>>> Mike in Ohio
>>
>

BB

Bill

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

10/06/2012 1:24 AM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Kenefick wrote:
>>> Yes, after painting. But would I varnish first or do that after to
>>> help protect the decal?
>>
>> If there is much as stake here, do a "practice run" with a decal
>> similar to the one you plan to use and a piece of wood you don't care
>> about. Then after a suitable amount of time, see what it takes to
>> scratch the decal off. I've seen decals hold up quite well without
>> any additional protection. Everything just depends, depends,
>> depends...
>
> Not so much. This is a pretty well explored and developed technique. It
> works.

You should write a book so everyone will know.

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

10/06/2012 3:18 PM



On 6/9/2012 11:18 PM, Bill wrote:
> Kenefick wrote:
>> Yes, after painting. But would I varnish first or do that after to help
>> protect the decal?
>
> If there is much as stake here, do a "practice run" with a decal similar
> to the one you plan to use and a piece of wood you don't care about.
> Then after a suitable amount of time, see what it takes to scratch the
> decal off. I've seen decals hold up quite well without any additional
> protection. Everything just depends, depends, depends...
>

wrong...

You always protect the decal by applying finish over it.
>

Kk

Kenefick

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

09/06/2012 10:57 PM

Yes, after painting. But would I varnish first or do that after to help
protect the decal?

> You mean over a painted or varnished surface, don't you?
On 6/9/2012 6:04 PM, Bill wrote:
> Kenefick wrote:
>> Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? Did it adhere well? What type
>> of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.
>>
>> Mike in Ohio
>

c

in reply to Kenefick on 09/06/2012 5:06 PM

10/06/2012 12:07 AM

On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:18:08 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>Kenefick wrote:
>> Yes, after painting. But would I varnish first or do that after to help
>> protect the decal?
>
>If there is much as stake here, do a "practice run" with a decal similar
>to the one you plan to use and a piece of wood you don't care about.
>Then after a suitable amount of time, see what it takes to scratch the
>decal off. I've seen decals hold up quite well without any additional
>protection. Everything just depends, depends, depends...
>
>
>>
>> > You mean over a painted or varnished surface, don't you?
>> On 6/9/2012 6:04 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Kenefick wrote:
>>>> Has anyone ever applied a decal to wood? Did it adhere well? What type
>>>> of sealer did you cover it with to protect it from damage.
>>>>
>>>> Mike in Ohio
>>>
>>
>
I've done it years ago using urethane varnish (varathane) to cover and
seal. The wood was varnished before aplying the decal, and after.

I've also seen them done with shellac, but that has it's own
vulnerabilities, so it depends what you are putting it on.


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