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Tim Daneliuk

09/06/2012 10:29 AM

Somewhat OT: A Painting Question

I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ... but
I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:

The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of paint
seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.

Ideas?

TIA,
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Doug Winterburn

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

09/06/2012 9:06 AM

On 06/09/2012 08:52 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 6/09/12 11:29 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ...
>> but
>> I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
>> weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>>
>> The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
>> primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
>> once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
>> Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
>> kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of
>> paint
>> seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
> Shellac let dry, and repaint.
>

One word - Kilz

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c

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

09/06/2012 2:54 PM

On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:29:06 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ... but
>I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
>weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>
>The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
>primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
>once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
>Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
>kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of paint
>seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>
>Ideas?
>
>TIA,
KILZ or another brand of shellac type sealer.

c

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

10/06/2012 11:17 PM

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:22:06 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in news:4fd37489$0$7908$c3e8da3
>[email protected]:
>
>> On 06/09/2012 08:52 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>> On 6/09/12 11:29 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>>> I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ...
>>>> but
>>>> I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
>>>> weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>>>>
>>>> The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
>>>> primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
>>>> once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
>>>> Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
>>>> kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of
>>>> paint
>>>> seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>>>>
>>>> Ideas?
>>>>
>>> Shellac let dry, and repaint.
>>>
>>
>> One word - Kilz
>
>What he said. You need a stainkiller paint or primer of some sort, anyway. Doesn't have to
>be Kilz brand specifically, though that's the easiest one to find. Sherwin-Williams makes
>one that they call "StainBlocker" or something similar, which I've used with great success.
>Kilz also works very, very well.
And just plain white shellac works too (or even amber).

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

09/06/2012 9:29 AM

On Jun 9, 11:29=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ... bu=
t
> I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. =A0I have th=
is
> weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>
> The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. =A0It was initiall=
y
> primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
> once. =A0At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
> Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
> kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of pain=
t
> seems to cover it. =A0 If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>
> Ideas?
>
> TIA,
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
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I had good look, in a similar situation, with Zinzser's BullsEye. My
'brown spot' was on a lightly textured ceiling. I bought the rattle
can version so I could feather the edges.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

10/06/2012 10:22 PM

Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in news:4fd37489$0$7908$c3e8da3
[email protected]:

> On 06/09/2012 08:52 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>> On 6/09/12 11:29 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>>> I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ...
>>> but
>>> I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
>>> weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>>>
>>> The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
>>> primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
>>> once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
>>> Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
>>> kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of
>>> paint
>>> seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>>
>> Shellac let dry, and repaint.
>>
>
> One word - Kilz

What he said. You need a stainkiller paint or primer of some sort, anyway. Doesn't have to
be Kilz brand specifically, though that's the easiest one to find. Sherwin-Williams makes
one that they call "StainBlocker" or something similar, which I've used with great success.
Kilz also works very, very well.

Mm

Markem

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

10/06/2012 7:50 AM

On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:29:06 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ... but
>I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
>weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>
>The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
>primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
>once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
>Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
>kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of paint
>seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>
>Ideas?
>
>TIA,

Kilz the oil based version best bet, but I hid some cieling stain
recently with Kilz water based primer.

Mark

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

09/06/2012 11:52 AM

On 6/09/12 11:29 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ... but
> I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
> weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>
> The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
> primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
> once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
> Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
> kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of paint
> seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>
> Ideas?
>
Shellac let dry, and repaint.

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Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

09/06/2012 11:04 AM

On 6/9/12 10:52 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 6/09/12 11:29 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> I love doing electrical, plumbing, carpentry, furniture, finishing ...
>> but
>> I just HATE painting - probably because I'm very slow at it. I have this
>> weird problem that I could use some Wreck Smarts on:
>>
>> The front foyer of a home is done entirely in drywall. It was initially
>> primed/painted almost 20 years ago and has since been repainted at least
>> once. At one point or another, a leak developed above foyer ceiling.
>> Although the leak was subsequently fixed, it left what appears to be some
>> kind of brown/mineral discoloration on the ceiling and not amount of
>> paint
>> seems to cover it. If I paint it, it dries, and the stain reappears.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
> Shellac let dry, and repaint.
>

There are Kilz and/or Zinsser primer that are shellac based.
Get one of those and prime the area... it might take two coats.

Isn't Leon our local Zinsser B-I-N advocate? :-)


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LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

09/06/2012 5:37 PM

On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 11:04:35 -0500, -MIKE- wrote:

> Isn't Leon our local Zinsser B-I-N advocate? :-)

Well, if he isn't, I'll be glad to take over :-). I've used B-I-N on
stains left by roof leaks that kept re-appearing until I used the B-I-N.

Great stuff.

On a related topic, I'm replacing some trim boards on our place. The
originals were rustic, so I bought cedar fence boards and cut them to
width. I painted them first with B-I-N on all sides with multiple coats
on the end grain and an extra coat on the back side. Then I painted the
other 3 sides with the trim color and installed the boards with screws.

That's one job I don't expect to have to do again!

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LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 09/06/2012 10:29 AM

11/06/2012 4:56 PM

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:17:27 -0400, clare wrote:

> Kilz also works very, very well.
> And just plain white shellac works too (or even amber).

Careful. If you mean the Zinsser white and amber shellacs, they contain
wax. That may or not be a problem, depending on what finish you overcoat
with. SealCoat is a lot safer. And I suspect B-I-N is dewaxed, although
I haven't checked it.

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