On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:53:29 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Personally I learned more in a month on the job as an engineer than I
>had learned in four years at Georgia Tech.
Hear, hear!! My BAE from Auburn prepared me more for graduate school
than for the drawing table.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA
On Sep 10, 2:17=A0pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave in Houston" wrote
>
> > "Swingman" wrote in message
>
> >> "Robatoy" wrote
>
> >>>Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.
>
> >> Yabbut, throughout history, there have arguably been equal amounts, if
> >> not
> >> more, human misery perpetuated in the name of "community organizers".
>
> > =A0 =A0If by "community organizers" you mean "organized religion" then =
I agree
> > completely.
>
> Ya got it, Bubba! =A0;)
>
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> KarlC@ (the obvious)
The only things wrong with organized religions are the organizers.
<[email protected]> wrote
> so it has to be true!
>
> Homer J. Simpson
>
> **********
>
> A little fun for those that still believe what they read on the
> internet.
>
> http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/105443
Just further proof of what I keep telling my youngest daughter ... that she
needs to keep firmly in mind, in her daily dealings, that, by definition,
five out of every ten people she sees randomly on a dialy basis are _below_
the upper half of the "bell-curve" distribution (Gaussian normal
distribution) of human intelligence.
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> [email protected] wrote:
> > something i tossed up on my original en.com nearly ten years ago:
> > http://home.roadrunner.com/~kimnach/computer_classroom.htm
>
> The two scenarios are really just newgraditis--they were present long
> before computers were commonplace consumer items.
>
> I remember the new electrical engineering grad back around 1975 who
> when asked on a job interview to design a power supply for a piece of
> consumer audio equipment put in a ten farad filter capacitor--now, ten
> farad capacitors today are small and inexpensive, but at the time a
> ten farad capacitor was something that you carried with a fork lift.
> He wondered why the interviewer fell down on the floor laughing. The
> sad thing about it is that I was not even an electrical engineer and I
> could explain the problem to him.
>
> Then there was the new aero engineering grad around the same time who
> went on at length about how if an airliner that lost one wing wing and
> all its flight controls had been "properly designed" then it would not
> have crashed. Turns out his idea of "properly designed" required
> among other things that that it be an unbraced biplane.
>
> Personally I learned more in a month on the job as an engineer than I
> had learned in four years at Georgia Tech.
I ws perfectly prepared for my first job by my four years at UIUC.
It was a very practical curriculum and that fact wasn't lost on my
employer (at one time there were six UIUC grads in my department).
Of course, working as a technician in the EE department for four
years in college didn't hurt.
--
Keith
In article <[email protected]>, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>Depends, Swing. There are days around here when it seems like that
>figure is closer to 8.9 out of 10.
>
>Or, those days might those times when even the most brilliant people just
>aren't thinking straight. Reminds me of one escapade when DOS was in vogue.
>I proudly came home with my first CD drive, hooked it up and cleverly
>created a batch file called CD.bat to make it run. During the next three
>days I ripped out my remaining hair until I finally figured out why my batch
>file wouldn't run the CD.
>
<g>
Co-worker once asked me to debug a DOS batch file he was trying to run on a
large set of files. Worked fine on all but one ... named CON.
On Sep 10, 9:15=A0am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > so it has to be true!
>
> > Homer J. Simpson
>
> > **********
>
> > A little fun for those that still believe what they read on the
> > internet.
>
> > =A0http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/105443
>
> Just further proof of what I keep telling my youngest daughter ... that s=
he
> needs to keep firmly in mind, in her daily dealings, that, by definition,
> five out of every ten people she sees randomly on a dialy basis are _belo=
w_
> the upper half of the "bell-curve" distribution (Gaussian normal
> distribution) of human intelligence.
>
Depends, Swing. There are days around here when it seems like that
figure is closer to 8.9 out of 10.
On Sep 10, 1:10=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> so it has to be true!
>
> Homer J. Simpson
>
> **********
>
> A little fun for those that still believe what they read on the
> internet.
>
The problem lies with those who want to believe the things they have
searched for.
The questions they enter into their search engines skew the results.
Enter: 'Bush's corporate executive failures' will get you more hits
than 'Bush's corporate executive successes.'
One must be as neutral as possible when posing the questions.
Still, one might find that somebody who wrote in a positive way about
Bush's corporate successes.
r
Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.
On Sep 10, 10:09=A0am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote
>
> >Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.
>
> Yabbut, throughout history, there have arguably been equal amounts, if no=
t
> more, human misery perpetuated in the name of "community organizers".
>
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our weapon is
suprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons
are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons
are fear, and surprise, and the ruthless efficiency...and an almost
fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Amongst our weapons...are fear,
surprise,... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear... I'll
come in again.
=3Do)
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robatoy" wrote
>
>>Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.
>
> Yabbut, throughout history, there have arguably been equal amounts, if not
> more, human misery perpetuated in the name of "community organizers".
If by "community organizers" you mean "organized religion" then I agree
completely.
Dave in Houston
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:53:29 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Personally I learned more in a month on the job as an engineer than I
>had learned in four years at Georgia Tech.
I don't argue with your point, but I would argue that you would not
have been able to learn on the job had you not first learned in the
classroom. The challenge for the newly educated is to figure out how
to translate theoretical knowledge into practical application.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Warning: Spelling errors in this message are the product of a poor school system. Pay teachures more than athletes.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
Depends, Swing. There are days around here when it seems like that
figure is closer to 8.9 out of 10.
Or, those days might those times when even the most brilliant people just
aren't thinking straight. Reminds me of one escapade when DOS was in vogue.
I proudly came home with my first CD drive, hooked it up and cleverly
created a batch file called CD.bat to make it run. During the next three
days I ripped out my remaining hair until I finally figured out why my batch
file wouldn't run the CD.
[email protected] wrote:
> something i tossed up on my original en.com nearly ten years ago:
> http://home.roadrunner.com/~kimnach/computer_classroom.htm
The two scenarios are really just newgraditis--they were present long
before computers were commonplace consumer items.
I remember the new electrical engineering grad back around 1975 who
when asked on a job interview to design a power supply for a piece of
consumer audio equipment put in a ten farad filter capacitor--now, ten
farad capacitors today are small and inexpensive, but at the time a
ten farad capacitor was something that you carried with a fork lift.
He wondered why the interviewer fell down on the floor laughing. The
sad thing about it is that I was not even an electrical engineer and I
could explain the problem to him.
Then there was the new aero engineering grad around the same time who
went on at length about how if an airliner that lost one wing wing and
all its flight controls had been "properly designed" then it would not
have crashed. Turns out his idea of "properly designed" required
among other things that that it be an unbraced biplane.
Personally I learned more in a month on the job as an engineer than I
had learned in four years at Georgia Tech.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Tim Douglass wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:53:29 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Personally I learned more in a month on the job as an engineer than
>> I
>> had learned in four years at Georgia Tech.
>
> I don't argue with your point, but I would argue that you would not
> have been able to learn on the job had you not first learned in the
> classroom. The challenge for the newly educated is to figure out how
> to translate theoretical knowledge into practical application.
I would. Most of what I did was beating experts' heads together until
they agreed on a solution. The experts had to know all that stuff.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"Dave in Houston" wrote
> "Swingman" wrote in message
>>
>> "Robatoy" wrote
>>
>>>Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.
>>
>> Yabbut, throughout history, there have arguably been equal amounts, if
>> not
>> more, human misery perpetuated in the name of "community organizers".
>
>
> If by "community organizers" you mean "organized religion" then I agree
> completely.
Ya got it, Bubba! ;)
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Last update: 8/18/08
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