Hg

Hoosierpopi

25/08/2011 7:49 PM

Bad Bosch Band Saw Blades

The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.

So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.

Neither broke at the weld seam.

OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
depend upon and a source or two for same.

I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
with the old blades.

Thanks in advance.


This topic has 28 replies

Ll

Leon

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 6:49 AM

On 8/25/2011 9:49 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
> start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
> of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
> improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
> was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.
>
> So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
> fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
> planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>
> Neither broke at the weld seam.
>
> OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
> depend upon and a source or two for same.
>
> I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
> how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
> perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
> with the old blades.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

What does Bosch know about band saws and or blades?

Anyway, I have had good luck with these

http://www.suffolkmachinery.com

Hg

Hoosierpopi

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 7:55 PM

On Aug 26, 8:15=A0am, Doug Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I've had nothing but excellent results from Olson blades.http://www.olson=
saw.com

Thank you, went looking, which one(s)/type?? General woodworking, no
re-sawing. softwoods mostly.

Band Saw Blades include: All-Pro and MVP, Bi-Metal, Hard Edge, Flex
Back, Hard Back, Thin Kerf, and Wood Band.


Ll

Leon

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 1:16 PM

On 8/31/2011 12:35 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:02:25 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2011 10:50 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:24:52 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/28/2011 9:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hoosierpopi"<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
>>>>>> eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
>>>>>> amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
>>>>>> Lowes took 'em back).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the reputation for quality Bosch has, I'm really surprised you had
>>>>> the problem with three blades. They may have all been from the same
>>>>> batch. Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of
>>>>> that batch.
>>>
>>> I generally like Bosch tools but I have a palm sander that has never held the
>>> paper. It's particularly bad with 220 paper.
>>
>>
>> In the past 25 years I have used 4-6 different Bosch drills, ranging
>>from hammer drills, regular corded drills, cordless and impact drivers.
>> I have not liked any of them
>> I do have 2 of their routers which I do like.
>
> I have five Bosch cordless drivers and drills (two copies of one - freebies).
> I really like 'em. I also have their saber saw (nice), an antique
> reciprocating saw (it works - bought it well used), Colt router (nice),
> hammer-drill (not used enough to have an opinion), and SCMS (nice but dust
> collection could be better). Other than the sander, it's all been well worth
> the money. It was only about the price of a piece of Festering sandpaper,
> though. ;-)
>
>>>> Don't be fooled into thinking that everything that a reputable company
>>>> markets is great, I would suspect that even Festool has some stinkers.
>>>
>>> Like their price sheet? ;-)
>>
>> There is that however their new cordless drill seems to be priced to
>> compete and their sand paper is not a badly priced considering how long
>> it lasts.
>>
> I thought their drills were pretty expensive. Sanders, too. I have a Festool
> router and the TS-55 (and parallel jig). Expensive stuff, all. If I bought a
> saber saw now it would probably be a Festool, but I just can't bring myself to
> go that high for a drill or sander. Likely just a hang-up.
>

Here is the new drill I was referring to.

http://drills.festoolusa.com/cordless-drills/models/cxs/


I have 2 Festool sanders and IMHO they are worth every penny I spent on
them, Having already owned the CT22 dust extractor the sanders require
no dust clean up and the Rotex can be as aggressive as a belt sander or
as gentle as a polish finish sander. You really don't realize how much
dust those sanders are picking up until you do a little 180 hand sanding
to ease corner edges and then there is dust every where it seems.



Hg

Hoosierpopi

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

28/08/2011 7:43 PM

Replying to all who offered advice.

I went to Klingspor and bout a Timber wolf blade. Set it up (flutter)
as instructed - scary low tension) and it works. I also reset the
steel guides (need to get cool blocks or ceramic blocks or rollers, I
guess and maybe a new yellow spring) and the roller on top - the blade
(at low tension) was missing it entirely. I discovered why the top
bearing shaft was hex-shaped!

The blade does cut noticeably better than the old one or the Bosch
blades.

Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
Lowes took 'em back).

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 2:47 PM

"Morgans" <[email protected]> writes:
>"Hoosierpopi" wrote
>
>So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
>fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
>planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>
>Neither broke at the weld seam.
>
>OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
>depend upon and a source or two for same.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Betcha the blades are made in China. China steel and accurate heat treating
>sucks. Find better blades.
>

Like everything else, you get what you pay for. China makes perfectly good
steel (the steel for the signature tower of the bay bridge is from China). China
also makes cheap goods for purchase by cheap consumers in the US with lower
quality.

kk

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 10:50 AM

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:24:52 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 8/28/2011 9:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> "Hoosierpopi" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
>>> eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
>>> amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
>>> Lowes took 'em back).
>>>
>>
>> Given the reputation for quality Bosch has, I'm really surprised you had
>> the problem with three blades. They may have all been from the same
>> batch. Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of
>> that batch.

I generally like Bosch tools but I have a palm sander that has never held the
paper. It's particularly bad with 220 paper.

>Don't be fooled into thinking that everything that a reputable company
>markets is great, I would suspect that even Festool has some stinkers.

Like their price sheet? ;-)

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 9:58 PM

Me too. I like the timberwolf blades.

On 8/26/2011 7:49 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/25/2011 9:49 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
>> The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
>> start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
>> of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
>> improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
>> was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.
>>
>> So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
>> fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
>> planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>>
>> Neither broke at the weld seam.
>>
>> OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
>> depend upon and a source or two for same.
>>
>> I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
>> how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
>> perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
>> with the old blades.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> What does Bosch know about band saws and or blades?
>
> Anyway, I have had good luck with these
>
> http://www.suffolkmachinery.com
>

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

30/08/2011 5:59 AM


"Hoosierpopi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b7efff8a-3c03-44a7-9f51-0288659f46e4@p19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 28, 10:52 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of that
> batch.
>
> Well, they all were from the same rack in the same store.
>
> Having said that, I may have contributed to the failures as I am a
> novice with this machine and band saws in general. I did find that, at
> some point, blades had worn ruts in the steel guides and the round
> bearings behind the blade were not properly aligned. I found these
> problems one after the other after each blade broke and, the last
> after installing the timber wolf blade.
>
> Only time will tell if these adjustments and the new blade cure the
> problem and acquit the Bosch blades.
>
>
>

May Paul Harvey RIP. "and now you know the rest of the story"

You just acquitted the blades.

Properly set up, nothing wears grooves. Improperly set up, blades will
break.

pp

phorbin

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

01/09/2011 12:12 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> "Morgans" <[email protected]> writes:
> >"Hoosierpopi" wrote
> >
> >So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
> >fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
> >planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
> >
> >Neither broke at the weld seam.
> >
> >OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
> >depend upon and a source or two for same.
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >Betcha the blades are made in China. China steel and accurate heat treating
> >sucks. Find better blades.
> >
>
> Like everything else, you get what you pay for. China makes perfectly good
> steel (the steel for the signature tower of the bay bridge is from China). China
> also makes cheap goods for purchase by cheap consumers in the US with lower
> quality.

http://www.amazon.com/Poorly-Made-China-Insiders-
Production/dp/0470928077/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj

Ll

Leon

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

30/08/2011 6:43 AM

On 8/29/2011 10:33 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> On Aug 28, 10:52 pm, "Ed Pawlowski"<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of that
> batch.
>
> Well, they all were from the same rack in the same store.
>
> Having said that, I may have contributed to the failures as I am a
> novice with this machine and band saws in general. I did find that, at
> some point, blades had worn ruts in the steel guides and the round
> bearings behind the blade were not properly aligned. I found these
> problems one after the other after each blade broke and, the last
> after installing the timber wolf blade.

I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
with the old blades.


Kinda hard to diagnose a problem with those two paragraph above. ;~)

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

28/08/2011 10:52 PM


"Hoosierpopi" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
> eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
> amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
> Lowes took 'em back).
>

Given the reputation for quality Bosch has, I'm really surprised you had the
problem with three blades. They may have all been from the same batch.
Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of that batch.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 1:30 PM

On 8/31/2011 1:16 PM, Leon wrote:

> I have 2 Festool sanders and IMHO they are worth every penny I spent on
> them, Having already owned the CT22 dust extractor the sanders require
> no dust clean up and the Rotex can be as aggressive as a belt sander or
> as gentle as a polish finish sander. You really don't realize how much
> dust those sanders are picking up until you do a little 180 hand sanding
> to ease corner edges and then there is dust every where it seems.

Don't know which I hate worse, sanding or finishing. While both are
still a disklike, they are now sooooo much easier thanks to Festool and
Earlex.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Ll

Leon

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 6:24 AM

On 8/28/2011 9:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Hoosierpopi" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
>> eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
>> amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
>> Lowes took 'em back).
>>
>
> Given the reputation for quality Bosch has, I'm really surprised you had
> the problem with three blades. They may have all been from the same
> batch. Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of
> that batch.

Don't be fooled into thinking that everything that a reputable company
markets is great, I would suspect that even Festool has some stinkers.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 12:02 PM

On 8/31/2011 10:50 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:24:52 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 8/28/2011 9:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> "Hoosierpopi"<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
>>>> eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
>>>> amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
>>>> Lowes took 'em back).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Given the reputation for quality Bosch has, I'm really surprised you had
>>> the problem with three blades. They may have all been from the same
>>> batch. Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of
>>> that batch.
>
> I generally like Bosch tools but I have a palm sander that has never held the
> paper. It's particularly bad with 220 paper.


In the past 25 years I have used 4-6 different Bosch drills, ranging
from hammer drills, regular corded drills, cordless and impact drivers.
I have not liked any of them
I do have 2 of their routers which I do like.


>> Don't be fooled into thinking that everything that a reputable company
>> markets is great, I would suspect that even Festool has some stinkers.
>
> Like their price sheet? ;-)

There is that however their new cordless drill seems to be priced to
compete and their sand paper is not a badly priced considering how long
it lasts.




Hg

Hoosierpopi

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

29/08/2011 8:33 PM

On Aug 28, 10:52=A0pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of that
batch.

Well, they all were from the same rack in the same store.

Having said that, I may have contributed to the failures as I am a
novice with this machine and band saws in general. I did find that, at
some point, blades had worn ruts in the steel guides and the round
bearings behind the blade were not properly aligned. I found these
problems one after the other after each blade broke and, the last
after installing the timber wolf blade.

Only time will tell if these adjustments and the new blade cure the
problem and acquit the Bosch blades.


Hg

Hoosierpopi

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 8:44 PM

On Aug 26, 2:30=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You're not going overboard on the blade tension, are you?

Could be. I reduced the tension twice (between each break) and have
gone through three of their blades so far.

http://www.suffolkmachinery.com/swedish-silicon-steel-prices/

This link is to a chart of SWEDISH SILICON STEEL blades. Great
selection - but confusing to me as I don't know what all the
abbreviations (AS, AS-S, VPC) mean

I thought to purchase the following for about $28. Not sure if that's
a great price (shipping extra) or not. Also, I do NOT understand the
two-letter descriptions Woodcraft lists. The quarter-inch blades
appear to come in 4, six eight and ten tooth versions (not all seen on
one website!) - for the task we were doing (cutting half-inch thick
p.t. pine fence pickets (a bit "wet") into shapes with a couple of 1.5-
inch diameter semi-circles, what should I look for?

Timber Wolf Bandsaw Blade 1/4" x 93-1/2", 6 TPI Timber Wolf makes the
worlds only thin-kerf, low tension, silicon steel band saw blades that
will outlast your old carbon steel blades by a mile! Your bandsaw will
cut better and faster, with less wear on bearings, shafts and tires.
Tooth angles and gullet symmetries, combined with a unique set
pattern, create a blade that is everything a wood-cutting blade was
meant to be. Blade has over 60 of the speed capabilities of a hook
blade while giving you the great finish of a skip. The round design of
the gullet eliminates any work hardening zones. Couple that with the
special 6.5 degrees rake, 5-tooth set pattern, and .025" thick thin-
kerf blade and you have an awesome bandsaw blade!

Thanks for the feedback.

BB

Bill

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 12:13 AM

Hoosierpopi wrote:
> The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
> start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
> of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
> improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
> was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.

I recent picked up Delta Model 28-276, which is alot like Model 28-206.
Did you make all of the adjustments as guided by the manual? In
particular, "adjusting the upper (and loweer) blade guides and suport
bearings". I spent at least several hours trying to make sure I had
those right (but I never owned a BS before). I needed to use a
flashlight. I made a few wavy cuts through a few 2by4s, made a
celebratory sigh, and moved onto my next project.

At least on my BS, there is another mechanism which comes into play when
the saw is started--a screw with a rubber cap on it, that bounces
against the motor like a door-stop when the saw is started. You may wish
to check that the rubber cap is still present. Good luck with your saw.

Bill


>
> So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
> fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
> planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>
> Neither broke at the weld seam.
>
> OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
> depend upon and a source or two for same.
>
> I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
> how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
> perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
> with the old blades.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 8:15 AM

On 8/25/2011 10:49 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
> start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
> of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
> improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
> was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.
>
> So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
> fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
> planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>
> Neither broke at the weld seam.
>
> OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
> depend upon and a source or two for same.

I've had nothing but excellent results from Olson blades.
http://www.olsonsaw.com

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 1:30 PM

On 8/25/2011 9:49 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
> start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
> of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
> improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
> was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.
>
> So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
> fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
> planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>
> Neither broke at the weld seam.
>
> OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
> depend upon and a source or two for same.
>
> I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
> how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
> perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
> with the old blades.
>
> Thanks in advance.

You're not going overboard on the blade tension, are you?

--
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 11:48 PM

On 8/26/2011 10:55 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> On Aug 26, 8:15 am, Doug Miller<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I've had nothing but excellent results from Olson blades.http://www.olsonsaw.com
>
> Thank you, went looking, which one(s)/type?? General woodworking, no
> re-sawing. softwoods mostly.
>
> Band Saw Blades include: All-Pro and MVP, Bi-Metal, Hard Edge, Flex
> Back, Hard Back, Thin Kerf, and Wood Band.

Just general woodworking. It's been a while since I've needed to buy a
bandsaw blade; the packaging on the last one I bought doesn't have any
partilar designations like those on it.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

27/08/2011 4:33 PM

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:44:03 -0700, Hoosierpopi wrote:

> Timber Wolf Bandsaw Blade 1/4" x 93-1/2", 6 TPI Timber Wolf makes the
> worlds only thin-kerf, low tension, silicon steel band saw blades that
> will outlast your old carbon steel blades by a mile! Your bandsaw will
> cut better and faster, with less wear on bearings, shafts and tires.

I like Timberwolf blades, but I haven't found them to work as well under
low tension as they do under normal tension. They wander more under low
tension. I don't know what tension I'm using, I just tighten till the
blade sounds tight when twanged.

For blades I use infrequently, I buy Olsen. One of these days I'll try a
HH Woodslicer.


--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

Dd

DanG

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

28/08/2011 6:01 AM

On 8/25/2011 9:49 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
> start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
> of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
> improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
> was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.
>
> So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
> fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
> planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>
> Neither broke at the weld seam.
>
> OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
> depend upon and a source or two for same.
>
> I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
> how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
> perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
> with the old blades.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>


I have had excellent experience using Grainger. I've been running Morse
blades on the steel cutting band saw and portaband. I've been using
Lennox on the wood band saw.

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 1:45 AM

"Hoosierpopi" wrote

So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.

Neither broke at the weld seam.

OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
depend upon and a source or two for same.
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Betcha the blades are made in China. China steel and accurate heat treating
sucks. Find better blades.

-- Jim in NC

Ll

Leon

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 1:49 PM

On 8/31/2011 1:30 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 8/31/2011 1:16 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>> I have 2 Festool sanders and IMHO they are worth every penny I spent on
>> them, Having already owned the CT22 dust extractor the sanders require
>> no dust clean up and the Rotex can be as aggressive as a belt sander or
>> as gentle as a polish finish sander. You really don't realize how much
>> dust those sanders are picking up until you do a little 180 hand sanding
>> to ease corner edges and then there is dust every where it seems.
>
> Don't know which I hate worse, sanding or finishing. While both are
> still a disklike, they are now sooooo much easier thanks to Festool and
> Earlex.
>

Have you shot the desk project yet? I'd like to see that if it is not
too much trouble and or I can make it by.

kk

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

31/08/2011 12:35 PM

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:02:25 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 8/31/2011 10:50 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:24:52 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/28/2011 9:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Hoosierpopi"<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
>>>>> eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
>>>>> amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
>>>>> Lowes took 'em back).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given the reputation for quality Bosch has, I'm really surprised you had
>>>> the problem with three blades. They may have all been from the same
>>>> batch. Makes me wonder if something was missed in the heat treating of
>>>> that batch.
>>
>> I generally like Bosch tools but I have a palm sander that has never held the
>> paper. It's particularly bad with 220 paper.
>
>
>In the past 25 years I have used 4-6 different Bosch drills, ranging
>from hammer drills, regular corded drills, cordless and impact drivers.
> I have not liked any of them
>I do have 2 of their routers which I do like.

I have five Bosch cordless drivers and drills (two copies of one - freebies).
I really like 'em. I also have their saber saw (nice), an antique
reciprocating saw (it works - bought it well used), Colt router (nice),
hammer-drill (not used enough to have an opinion), and SCMS (nice but dust
collection could be better). Other than the sander, it's all been well worth
the money. It was only about the price of a piece of Festering sandpaper,
though. ;-)

>>> Don't be fooled into thinking that everything that a reputable company
>>> markets is great, I would suspect that even Festool has some stinkers.
>>
>> Like their price sheet? ;-)
>
>There is that however their new cordless drill seems to be priced to
>compete and their sand paper is not a badly priced considering how long
>it lasts.
>
I thought their drills were pretty expensive. Sanders, too. I have a Festool
router and the TS-55 (and parallel jig). Expensive stuff, all. If I bought a
saber saw now it would probably be a Festool, but I just can't bring myself to
go that high for a drill or sander. Likely just a hang-up.

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

26/08/2011 9:51 PM

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:58:44 -0400, tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com>
wrote:

>> What does Bosch know about band saws and or blades?
>>
>> Anyway, I have had good luck with these
>>
>> http://www.suffolkmachinery.com
>>

Damn, I was going to say that but you beat me to it.

Cc

Casper

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

29/08/2011 10:10 AM

>The quarter-inch x 93.5 inch blade for my Delta BS snapped in half on
>start-up. We had been cutting half-inch pine - about sixty lineal feet
>of curved fence pickets Initially, the Bosch cut nicely - quite an
>improvement. Then "bang," it went. Scared my wife quite a bit as she
>was running the saw at the time - we now call her Band Saw Grannie!.
>
>So I took it back to Lowes and traded it for another. After about
>fifteen more pickets - it snapped in half! I'm on my third blade and
>planning on taking it back, as well as the second broken blade.
>
>Neither broke at the weld seam.
>
>OK, what I'm looking to learn is the brand of Band Saw Blade I can
>depend upon and a source or two for same.
>
>I suspect a few folks will have questions as to how I set up my BS,
>how I was using it, etc. More than happy to answer. But, from my
>perspective: nothing different from how I've been using it for years
>with the old blades.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>Hoosierpopi


I couldn't locally find a bandsaw blade in the size (56-1/8) I needed
for my Black & Decker 3-wheeler other than a Bosch, so I am currently
trying one. So far it's working good. Cut through bone like butter,
tracked great and even kept the dust down. I'll see how long it lasts.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Hoosierpopi on 25/08/2011 7:49 PM

29/08/2011 7:11 AM

On 8/28/2011 9:43 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> Replying to all who offered advice.
>
> I went to Klingspor and bout a Timber wolf blade. Set it up (flutter)
> as instructed - scary low tension) and it works. I also reset the
> steel guides (need to get cool blocks or ceramic blocks or rollers, I
> guess and maybe a new yellow spring) and the roller on top - the blade
> (at low tension) was missing it entirely. I discovered why the top
> bearing shaft was hex-shaped!
>
> The blade does cut noticeably better than the old one or the Bosch
> blades.
>
> Unfortunately, we are done with the major BS cutting operation (last
> eight pickets done today) so cannot test the TW against the same
> amount of work as was put to the Bosch blades (three broke all told -
> Lowes took 'em back).
>

I have never subscribed to the low tension setting, I use close to the
setting suggested by my saw gauge.


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