At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
cordless...
I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the long-haul,
so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
Thanks,
Heath
<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
I went to Coastal Tool with the intention of buying a Bosch. Walked out
with a 15.6 volt Panasonic. Feels good in the hand, has plenty of power,
has a chuck that you can tighten or loosen with one hand. Batteries seem to
last forever on a charge.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
To be honest the BEST Cordless drill is the drill that
"feels" good in you hand... and is balanced to be used for long
periods of time without causing you to become a weight lifter
I have several cordless...and the one i reach for most of the time is
a 14.4 Milwaukee....my 18 V Dewalt is just too heavy .. BUT it too
has its uses...
The Milwaukee is getting old (at least 5-6 years) and the batteries
are just fine... The DeWalt is only 3-4 years old and its battaries
are also just fine...
Just my opinion
Bob G.
I'm not the professional that others on here are. But I use a cordless
drill fairly frquently. I have a Craftsman, as a gift. I actually
don't mind it. It's worked pretty well.
I research tools a lot and from everything I've read, there are two
that you should consider:
Milwaukee 18 volt Lok-Tor 0622-24
Panasonic 15.6 volt EY6432
This link, will give you some more info:
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/house_and_home/cordless-drill-reviews/
These two, get very good reviews. I hope no one flames you! I rely on
places like this, to get good tool advice...not get flamed!
Hope that info helps.
Well... shame you don't like Milwaukee. They have been getting high
ratings in the reviews lately. They basicially have the highest torque
for the volt size across the catagories. They also have a great chuck.
Plus, I think the new ones also have a reverasable battery so it can
get into some tight spots easier.
I'd say Milwaukee, Festool or DeWalt. Festool has some cool switchable
chucks for offset and right angle, very cool stuff.
> Seems like the talk of the town is Panasonic these days. I've been looking
> at them myself.
>
That's what I'm hearing too...there's a super-high-end tool shop down the
street from me that sells several brands of cordless drill/drivers, and the
word from them was that you couldn't touch Panasonic these days for quality.
I can't say I agree or disagree 'cause I don't own one myself, but that's an
opinion from someone I trust.
Heath,
I just bought a Milwaukee last year. First Milwaukee tool I've ever
bought and I got to tell you, I love it. I had a PC 14.4 for a little
over a year when the motor went. Sent it back to be repaired but the
replaced the motor for free. Good service on that one. I was working
on a big project though so I went out and bought the Milwuakee 14.4
based on Wood Mag's reviews. The battery is reversible as someone
mentioned, which does allow you to get into tight spaces, but it also
serves as a counter weight. It sits very comfortably in the hand.
Torque in Wood's test was second to none and I can attest to that. Its
a beast. Battery life is not the best, also jives with Wood's test.
The other thing I love is that the chuck (made of metal by the way) is
tightened with one hand to the right torque.
Started with a Black and Deck, graduated to a Craftsman, then got the
PC. Used others DeWalt, won't give up the Milwaukee anytime soon.
Just in case it helps. Good luck,
Chuck
I only have experience with DeWalt. Mine is now about two years old and
I am extremely impressed with this tool! My drill is only 12V, but it's
the XRP which I highly recommend (it's definitely more expensive). I
bought an extra battery and charger (total three batteries) before
starting the project of decking my attic. I was drilling some pilot
holes and driving 3" sheetrock screws into the framing with no pilot
holes. It was a four day project and I never needed the extra battery
and charger because one battery would last long enough to charge the
backup. The drill has plenty of power as well, and I like the variable
speed trigger plus three ranges (geared).
I don't know about any other brands, but I have no reason to
experiment. DeWalt has earned my brand loyalty.
For what it's worth, while my house was being built, almost every
single contractor that I saw carried DeWalt tools. They're either great
tools, or they are very good at marketing to the pros.
Tom
I only have experience with DeWalt. Mine is now about two years old and
I am extremely impressed with this tool! My drill is only 12V, but it's
the XRP which I highly recommend (it's definitely more expensive). I
bought an extra battery and charger (total three batteries) before
starting the project of decking my attic. I was drilling some pilot
holes and driving 3" sheetrock screws into the framing with no pilot
holes. It was a four day project and I never needed the extra battery
and charger because one battery would last long enough to charge the
backup. The drill has plenty of power as well, and I like the variable
speed trigger plus three ranges (geared).
I don't know about any other brands, but I have no reason to
experiment. DeWalt has earned my brand loyalty.
For what it's worth, while my house was being built, almost every
single contractor that I saw carried DeWalt tools. They're either great
tools, or they are very good at marketing to the pros.
Tom
It seems to me that you could buy any of the main brands and be
perfectly happy. They all are making good products, good battery life,
good customer service. My support of this claim is that every brand is
covered somewhere in here as being quality, and we all seem to be
rather serious about our tool purchases.
I would suggest a simple method. Put on your favorite shirt, take SWMBO
with you to the store, and ask her which one matches your eye color and
shirt the best.
Hope that helps
Andrew
> >
> Someone here had a sig that went something like "buy the best and cry
> once...". If I need something a half dozen times a year, I'll buy
> Harbor Fright for $8.99. If I need something a half dozen times an
> hour, I'll find the best in my price range and go there. I also have
> several shirts.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
Jo4hn,
I don't disagree with this philosophy, sometimes though I start to
question the endless obsessing over what brand is the best. I have a
Bosch, before that I had a Dewalt, and a Black and Decker. They all
worked fine, yes even the black and decker. I love my drill, would buy
it again in a second, but I think that anyone spending a couple hundred
dollars on a cordless would say the same thing. I guess to me it
sometimes seems like we spend more time deciding which tool might be
the best, than finding out for ourselves making things. I fall victim
to this mentality as well, don't get me wrong. I have been thinking and
debating what type of shoulder plane to purchase for a month or more.
Does that make any sense?
Andrew
[email protected] wrote:
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving.
I got one of the Panasonic 12V Compact Drill/Drivers when Amazon had them on
sale for $50. This is a real nice little drill. It doesn't have the power
of the bigger cordless drills, but it's light and easy to handle and works
fine for driving screws and drilling small holes.
--
-- Steve
Wow. A lot of replies!
When I was on market looking for cordless drill last year (again, last
year in Feb), I went to WW show. Keep in mind that I like PC. I was
looking for specifically 12V. When I looked at the PC newest model (just
came out), I was very disappointed! The PC was so heavy that it almost
would need two hands to use it! It was the first time it was all-metal
gears.
So, I looked around. I liked the DeWalt "hammer" drill (yes, 12V!).
Should have bought it!
Then I came out of WW show with a brand new Makita. For about $150, it
came with two 12V batteries. The main reason I bought it was because it
could stand well (without having to lay it down). I know it may be silly
decision, but did it. Now, it has serve me well. It is well-balance,
keyless, etc (and blue :D )
If I was to do it over again, I might would have bought the "hammer"
cordless.
Chuck
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
I recently bought a Festool CDD cordless drill, even though I already
own two other cordless drill. They are currently 100 US dollars off and
come with excentric and around-the-corner chucks. Really handy when you
have to drill or screw in tight places like inside cabinets. It feels
very solid, and is extremly short, about half the length of my DeWalt.
<http://www.festoolusa.com/category.aspx?ID=12>
--
mare
On 26 Apr 2005 14:05:28 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
>best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
>tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
>they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
>of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
>at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
>Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
>sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
>thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
>I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
>anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
>Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
>cordless...
>
>I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
>screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
>important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
>do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
>right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
>
>I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the long-haul,
>so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>
>Thanks,
>Heath
i have tried em all and honestlt love my panasonic 15.4. use it all
day everyday. hard use. 2 years old and the batteries still hold a
good charge. they are light weight and well ballanced. not quite as
powerfull as some of the others i have used but plenty powerfull for
most uses.
skeez
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 27 Apr 2005 03:25:39 GMT, Bruce Barnett
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
>>> best of the current cordless drills?
>>
>>On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
>>wife has a budget. :-(
>
> Try this one:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005R1I1/qid=1114600554/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/103-6449867-4589445?v=glance&s=hi
>
> (watch the word wrap)
>
> I haven't used it, but I've been impressed with Porter-Cable's
> quality. It's only 9.6v, but that may be all you need.
>
>
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
I got a lot of milage out of the Ryobi I used to have (until the batteries
went bad after a number of years). I know that Ryobi is not top shelf
stuff, but it might do the job for you.
Around Christmas, some of the retailers around here (Menards) sell a Hitachi
outfit for under 100.
del
Right now, Festool is closing out a cool D-handle 12V drill for $225.
YOu can also get it with the right angle and eccentric (offset) chucks
for $335. It's not cheap, but considering the weight, power, and 3 year
warranty, 15 minute charging time, and the fact that the basic drill is
approximately the same price as a Panasonic (or most others), I'm
leaning towards Festool to upgrage my BD Firestorm.
[email protected] wrote:
> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
> best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
> tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
> they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
> of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
> at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
> Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
> sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
> thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
> I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
> anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
> Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
> cordless...
>
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
>
> I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the long-haul,
> so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>
> Thanks,
> Heath
>
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 05:02:43 -0500, the inscrutable Prometheus
<[email protected]> spake:
>On 28 Apr 2005 00:51:35 GMT, Bruce Barnett
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Prometheus <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> Try this one:
>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005R1I1/qid=1114600554/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/103-6449867-4589445?v=glance&s=hi
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for the tip! I took your advice and ordered the PC for $79,
>>with 2 batteries, and choose the Best Value and got a third battery
>>for free!
>
>Excellent. Let us know how it works! I've been very happy with my
>PC691 D-handle router, and I'm seriously considering adding some more
>PC to my arsenal.
I'd like PC a whole lot better if it came in a color other than Keeter
Gray (Grey, Jeff.)
--== May The Angst Be With You! ==--
-Yoda, on a bad day
--
http://diversify.com Ending Your Web Page Angst.
On 26 Apr 2005 14:05:28 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
>best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
>tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
>they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
>of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
>at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
>Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
>sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
>thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
I'm still very happy with my DeWalt, and I've put that thing through
hell on more than a few occasions- of course, since you've already got
them, I'm sure you know that for yourself. The only brand I've heard
praised more highly in most professional shops is Bosch, though you
note below that none of those are cordless.
>I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
>screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
>important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
>do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
>right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between the excellent
ones and the cheaper versions is battery life. If you're not all that
concerned about that, you could probably get away with any of them,
really. Obviously, an little Black and Decker cordless screwdriver
isn't going to work for you, but I can't imagine that there is really
that much difference between the name brands. As I said above, I like
DeWalt, but I also really like my Porter Cable router. Once you get
to a certain point, it's almost more a matter of the color you like
and how well they fit your hand than any real performance issue, IMO.
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
I would concur most manufacturers are all variations and knock off's of the
same. It's all the same technology. Being unique and creative and coming out
with the most innovative product isn't always the best for longevity. The
problem with cordless is that they can make rather insignificant changes
glue on a different model ID and sell you the same product virtually every
six months!
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 26 Apr 2005 14:05:28 -0700, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
> >best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
> >tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
> >they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
> >of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
> >at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
> >Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
> >sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
> >thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
> I'm still very happy with my DeWalt, and I've put that thing through
> hell on more than a few occasions- of course, since you've already got
> them, I'm sure you know that for yourself. The only brand I've heard
> praised more highly in most professional shops is Bosch, though you
> note below that none of those are cordless.
>
> >I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> >screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> >important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> >do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> >right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
>
> As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between the excellent
> ones and the cheaper versions is battery life. If you're not all that
> concerned about that, you could probably get away with any of them,
> really. Obviously, an little Black and Decker cordless screwdriver
> isn't going to work for you, but I can't imagine that there is really
> that much difference between the name brands. As I said above, I like
> DeWalt, but I also really like my Porter Cable router. Once you get
> to a certain point, it's almost more a matter of the color you like
> and how well they fit your hand than any real performance issue, IMO.
>
>
>
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"Bruce Barnett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
> wife has a budget. :-(
Depends on what she is going to use it for, at that price a Panasonic 12
volt or maybe a Ryobi. Should last her a few years of home use.
Mighty heavy.
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> How's Rigid? Does it measure up?
>
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions
>> for the
>> best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt
>> cordless
>> tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility,
>> but
>> they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and
>> a couple
>> of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been
>> looking
>> at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty
>> poor on
>> Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot
>> seem to
>> sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think
>> it's a bad
>> thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>>
>> I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made
>> here
>> anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few
>> Hitachi and
>> Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those
>> are
>> cordless...
>>
>> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose
>> drilling and
>> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't
>> terribly
>> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer
>> drill. I
>> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
>> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials
>> or what.
>>
>> I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the
>> long-haul,
>> so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Heath
>>
>
>
Milwaukee gets my money...
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
> best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
> tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
> they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
> of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
> at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
> Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
> sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
> thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
> I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
> anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
> Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
> cordless...
>
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
>
> I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the long-haul,
> so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>
> Thanks,
> Heath
>
Milwaukee 28 volt. Lighter weight, more power, longer run.
This is a professional grade tool for the long haul. This stuff is
new, as in the last few weeks. Saw and used some at a local tool
show last Friday. Impressive.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions
> for the
> best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt
> cordless
> tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility,
> but
> they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a
> couple
> of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been
> looking
> at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty
> poor on
> Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem
> to
> sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think
> it's a bad
> thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
> I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
> anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few
> Hitachi and
> Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those
> are
> cordless...
>
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling
> and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't
> terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer
> drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials
> or what.
>
> I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the
> long-haul,
> so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>
> Thanks,
> Heath
>
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between the excellent
> ones and the cheaper versions is battery life.
In a review on cordless drills I read (cannot remember where), there was one
other difference. The cheaper drills used plastic gears and the more
expensive had metal gears. That's not a rebranding issue - that's a real
quality difference.
Bob
"Bruce Barnett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> It's a B-Day present for me. And she likes to go to a real store and
> pick it up. So I'm looking at Home Depot, Lowes, Sears, etc. and
> haven't found anything exceptional.
You won't find anything exceptional at stores that cater to mediocrity.
Look for a real industrial supply place. Here in CT we have Coastal Tools.
Tattooed and Dusty wrote:
> It seems to me that you could buy any of the main brands and be
> perfectly happy. They all are making good products, good battery life,
> good customer service. My support of this claim is that every brand is
> covered somewhere in here as being quality, and we all seem to be
> rather serious about our tool purchases.
>
> I would suggest a simple method. Put on your favorite shirt, take SWMBO
> with you to the store, and ask her which one matches your eye color and
> shirt the best.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Andrew
>
Someone here had a sig that went something like "buy the best and cry
once...". If I need something a half dozen times a year, I'll buy
Harbor Fright for $8.99. If I need something a half dozen times an
hour, I'll find the best in my price range and go there. I also have
several shirts.
mahalo,
jo4hn
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Well... shame you don't like Milwaukee. They have been getting high
> ratings in the reviews lately. They basicially have the highest torque
> for the volt size across the catagories. They also have a great chuck.
They also just released the first lithium ion batteries for
cordless tools (that I know of).
ken
> >>> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
> >>> best of the current cordless drills?
About 10 years ago or so, I was given a Makita 9.6V -- It has always been my
favorite tool! (and I have a lot of them)
It came with two batteries. I keep one in the charger and the other in the
drill. Even now, the batteries last a pretty long time. The drill has
plenty of power for being a 9.6V, but the thing that makes me like it so
much is the great control of the variable speed, very good clutch, and
amazingly comfortable grip. Some of the other cordless drills I've used
seem to blast away as soon as you slightly press the trigger. The Makita
gives me very gradual power, so I can use it on small projects without
ripping through them. Yet it has enough power to drive screws through just
about anything, or even mix a bucket of paint. Keyless chuck is a must and
the greatest thing!
So, anyway, if the latest Makita is anything like the 9.6V that I have, I'd
stand behind it 100%. But honestly, I haven't worked with a new Makita -- I
haven't had the need to. =-)
Buy something you really like -- it's an investment you'll have for a long
time (unless you buy a crappy one).
I also recommend getting the magnetic hex extension shaft from DeWalt --
it's a great $5-$10 accessory for your drill that makes it a snap to change
hex bits (screw drivers, pilot drill bits, etc.) and has an extending sleeve
to hold screws in place as you drive them home.
X_HOBBES
Ken Yee wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Well... shame you don't like Milwaukee. They have been getting high
>> ratings in the reviews lately. They basicially have the highest torque
>> for the volt size across the catagories. They also have a great chuck.
>
> They also just released the first lithium ion batteries for
> cordless tools (that I know of).
Actually, Dremel has that honor--the latest revision of their cordless has
lithium-ion and it's been out for at least a year.
> ken
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"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
> best of the current cordless drills?
On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
wife has a budget. :-(
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> Is $100 the budget for YOUR drill or YOUR WIFE's drill?
It's a B-Day present for me. And she likes to go to a real store and
pick it up. So I'm looking at Home Depot, Lowes, Sears, etc. and
haven't found anything exceptional. I has a Makita that suddently
died, and I miss a cordless drill.
Right now I'm looking at some Craftsman models. I'm not a contractor.
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> Try this one:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005R1I1/qid=1114600554/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/103-6449867-4589445?v=glance&s=hi
>
Thanks for the tip! I took your advice and ordered the PC for $79,
with 2 batteries, and choose the Best Value and got a third battery
for free!
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In article <[email protected]>,
Bruce Barnett <[email protected]> wrote:
I have had good success with an 18 V Ryobi for the past four years.
Lots of people bad mouth Ryobi but my experience has been positive.
Previously I had a Craftsman and a Makita and they did not compare.
Dick
>
> On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
> wife has a budget. :-(
In article <[email protected]>, CNT <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Wow. A lot of replies!
>
> When I was on market looking for cordless drill last year (again, last
> year in Feb), I went to WW show. Keep in mind that I like PC. I was
> looking for specifically 12V. When I looked at the PC newest model (just
> came out), I was very disappointed! The PC was so heavy that it almost
> would need two hands to use it! It was the first time it was all-metal
> gears.
>
> So, I looked around. I liked the DeWalt "hammer" drill (yes, 12V!).
> Should have bought it!
>
> Then I came out of WW show with a brand new Makita. For about $150, it
> came with two 12V batteries. The main reason I bought it was because it
> could stand well (without having to lay it down). I know it may be silly
> decision, but did it. Now, it has serve me well. It is well-balance,
> keyless, etc (and blue :D )
>
> If I was to do it over again, I might would have bought the "hammer"
> cordless.
>
> Chuck
>
Yeh. But would the hammer match your eyes?
Dick
In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> After playing with 12-18v Bosch Impactors at the tool fest last
> Saturday, I'd opt for a Bosch 14.4 volter. If you see the Big
> Blue Truck Tour in your area, go down there. They had $30-50 the
> sale prices if you bought that day. The one I looked at was $160
> after the discounts. Bosch makes damned nice stuff (at about half
> the price of Panasonic.)
I have had mixed experiences with Bosch products over the years.
Most positive. That Panasonic is awful pricey. ( Maybe trying to get
back some of that 400 million racing budget for that Toyota Formula 1
car?)
>
> My lone question is: How good are their batteries?
That's the rub. In many cases, by the time one needs to replace the
batteries, the models have evolved into different voltages and sizes.
Then what do you do? Buy new batteries and hope the drill itself will
keep running? Cuz if it dies, you're out the money for the batteries.
Makes you wonder if that's the tool-people playing computer-people's
games, eh? Planned- and progressive obsolescence.
I'm going to take my time on this one.
In article <HSUbe.1914$i73.1303@okepread03>,
"DanG" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mighty heavy.
There's an up-side to heavy.
If you are driving a lot of screws, the heavier guns will be easier on
the wrists, but a little harder on the biceps.
In article <[email protected]>,
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:design-
> > BUT!
> > Since I bought it, there have been some strides made by other
> > manufacturers. The big buzz is all about Panasonic these days...however,
> > Milwaukee just raised the stakes with their VERY expensive 28 volt
> > system.
>
> But! How heavy is the thing? All the newer cordless I see have batteries
> that are substantially larger than my Milwaukee cordless.
Smaller than comparable 18 volt batteries.
In article <[email protected]>,
jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a Panasonic which I dearly love. I sent the batteries to
> http://www.primecell.com/ for rebuilding. Half the price of new
> batteries and they work great. When these crap out, I will do it again.
> drillingly yours,
You have drilled this into me. I get the drill.
What are you? A drill sergeant?
STOP me!!
In article <[email protected]>,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>anybody have suggestions for the
> best of the current cordless drills?
I'm in the same boat. My 14.4 Milwaukee is 4+ years old, still going
strong, but the charges don't seem to last as long anymore.
But the service it has given me makes think I would go to them again.
BUT!
Since I bought it, there have been some strides made by other
manufacturers. The big buzz is all about Panasonic these days...however,
Milwaukee just raised the stakes with their VERY expensive 28 volt
system. Expensive like Festool.
I own some Festool gear, but I don't think they're likely to be the best
across the board. Their big router has no equal, IMHO, neither does
their Rotex sander, but that kind of money for a drill?
I own a lot of Milwaukee gear... you can't go wrong with them. (The
Milwaukee's 5616 router is the sweetest small router on the planet,
IMHO.)
IF.. and I repeat IF I am going to drop the big bucks, I'll probably go
with something I know.
Cordless drill...mmmmm
I will likely swallow deeply and do the 28 volt thing.
Unless I get to play with the Panasonic and makes up my mind for me.
There is also a good chance that I am missing some stuff from other
brands, so we'll see.
Good cordless stuff is expensive...that much I know.
r
Bruce Barnett <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
> wife has a budget. :-(
>
I spent $180 or so a few years back for the Milwaukee 14.4V which is
great. About a year ago, there was a Skil 14.4V on closeout at Lowes for
$25, so I took a chance.
Doggone if that's not a nice little drill.
It doesn't have near the torque or finesse of the Milwaukee, and the chuck
is pretty rough, but it's a nice one to have around.
I find myself grabbing it first, for most light duty chores.
So I'd say try a Skil - especially if you can find it for a steal of a deal
price.
Is $100 the budget for YOUR drill or YOUR WIFE's drill?
If it's for the wife, I recommend the DeWalt 3/8" corded drill kit for
about $60 everywhere. The batteries won't be dead when she next goes
to use it. Get a 14-guage extension cord to go with it. Plenty
lightweight and plenty of power.
On 27 Apr 2005 03:25:39 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
>> best of the current cordless drills?
>
>On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
>wife has a budget. :-(
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:22:07 -0000, CNT <[email protected]> wrote:
>Wow. A lot of replies!
>
>When I was on market looking for cordless drill last year (again, last
>year in Feb), I went to WW show. Keep in mind that I like PC. I was
>looking for specifically 12V. When I looked at the PC newest model (just
>came out), I was very disappointed! The PC was so heavy that it almost
>would need two hands to use it! It was the first time it was all-metal
>gears.
This is precisely where I think most of the differing opinions on
hand-held tools come from... I like DeWalt because my 18v is heavy and
fits my hand well- but... I haul around steel bars day after day. A
guy who works in an office 9 to 5 (not saying that such a person is
not a better woodworker than I, FWIW) may like a different brand or
model simply because the handle is better shaped to fit their hand.
And at the end of the day, not having blisters from an ill-fitting
tool is worth a whole lot to me- like I said in an earlier post,
they're all probably pretty good.
>So, I looked around. I liked the DeWalt "hammer" drill (yes, 12V!).
>Should have bought it!
>
>Then I came out of WW show with a brand new Makita. For about $150, it
>came with two 12V batteries. The main reason I bought it was because it
>could stand well (without having to lay it down). I know it may be silly
>decision, but did it. Now, it has serve me well. It is well-balance,
>keyless, etc (and blue :D )
That's not a silly reason if the tool works well for you. Silly is
buying the one that costs $5 because you just don't *want* to wait
until you can afford a real one. I've been guilty of that more than
once, and it has always bit me in the end.
>If I was to do it over again, I might would have bought the "hammer"
>cordless.
Why?
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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:design-
> BUT!
> Since I bought it, there have been some strides made by other
> manufacturers. The big buzz is all about Panasonic these days...however,
> Milwaukee just raised the stakes with their VERY expensive 28 volt
> system.
But! How heavy is the thing? All the newer cordless I see have batteries
that are substantially larger than my Milwaukee cordless.
Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>
>>After playing with 12-18v Bosch Impactors at the tool fest last
>>Saturday, I'd opt for a Bosch 14.4 volter. If you see the Big
>>Blue Truck Tour in your area, go down there. They had $30-50 the
>>sale prices if you bought that day. The one I looked at was $160
>>after the discounts. Bosch makes damned nice stuff (at about half
>>the price of Panasonic.)
>
>
> I have had mixed experiences with Bosch products over the years.
> Most positive. That Panasonic is awful pricey. ( Maybe trying to get
> back some of that 400 million racing budget for that Toyota Formula 1
> car?)
>
>>My lone question is: How good are their batteries?
>
>
> That's the rub. In many cases, by the time one needs to replace the
> batteries, the models have evolved into different voltages and sizes.
> Then what do you do? Buy new batteries and hope the drill itself will
> keep running? Cuz if it dies, you're out the money for the batteries.
>
> Makes you wonder if that's the tool-people playing computer-people's
> games, eh? Planned- and progressive obsolescence.
>
> I'm going to take my time on this one.
I have a Panasonic which I dearly love. I sent the batteries to
http://www.primecell.com/ for rebuilding. Half the price of new
batteries and they work great. When these crap out, I will do it again.
drillingly yours,
jo4hn
Well everyone else has responded so why not one more:
FWIW
I have owned two 9.6 Makitas, both still going although the first one
I gave away to a friend. Have used a 14.4 Dewalt for the last 8 years
or so as my primary drill. Wore out the two original batteries, use
it as a backup now but still going strong. Santa decided I deserved a
new Makita 14.4 impact driver and it came with a coupon for a new
14.4 drill. (Hence the semi-retirement of the Dewalt)
With all that said, I really like my Makitas,especially the impact
driver, but if I were going out to buy just one drill I'd probably get
the Panasonic 15.6. I have never liked the 18volt drills, they're to
heavy for what I want to do with them. The Panasonic (a coworker has
one so I have used it many times) feels like a 14.4 as far as weight
goes, It's very well balanced, and has plenty of power. (Warning:
don't look at their impact driver drill unless you want to end up
spending double your budget . You won't be able to live without it
once you've tried one.) =0)
Lenny
On 26 Apr 2005 14:05:28 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
>best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
>tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
>they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
>of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
>at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
>Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
>sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
>thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
>I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
>anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
>Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
>cordless...
>
>I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
>screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
>important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
>do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
>right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
>
>I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the long-haul,
>so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>
>Thanks,
>Heath
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well... shame you don't like Milwaukee. They have been getting high
> ratings in the reviews lately. They basicially have the highest torque
> for the volt size across the catagories. They also have a great chuck.
Have to agree. I've an older 12 volt Milwaukee cordless. I had the batteries
rebuilt about a year ago, but aside from that it's always worked great.
On 27 Apr 2005 03:25:39 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
>wife has a budget. :-(
>
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Here's a thought. Start collecting on those unsolicited emails.
That oughta up the budget.
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On 26 Apr 2005 14:05:28 -0700, the inscrutable "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> spake:
>I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
>anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
>Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
>cordless...
I had the chance to try out the Bosch stuff at a Big Blue World Tour
event last Saturday which hosted the Bosch tool truck. I played with
their 12v and 14.4v impact drills and was extremely impressed by their
power. Using the impact meant virtually no pressure against the screw
was needed, making driving a lot of long screws MUCH, MUCH easier.
If I'd had a spare $160, I'd have brought one of the 14.4 volters
home. (The 18v model didn't have any appreciable difference in battery
life but was considerably cha-chingier.) The tool truck had $30-50 off
the sale prices at Diamond Home Center. That put them at about half
that of Panasonic's gilded prices. I didn't look at model numbers 'cuz
I wasn't buying.
>I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
>screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
>important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
>do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
>right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
You probably can't go wrong with either a Panasonic or Bosch impact
drill/driver.
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:31:54 -0400, the inscrutable Robatoy
<[email protected]> spake:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>anybody have suggestions for the
>> best of the current cordless drills?
>
>I'm in the same boat. My 14.4 Milwaukee is 4+ years old, still going
>strong, but the charges don't seem to last as long anymore.
>But the service it has given me makes think I would go to them again.
>BUT!
>Since I bought it, there have been some strides made by other
>manufacturers. The big buzz is all about Panasonic these days...however,
>Milwaukee just raised the stakes with their VERY expensive 28 volt
>system. Expensive like Festool.
After playing with 12-18v Bosch Impactors at the tool fest last
Saturday, I'd opt for a Bosch 14.4 volter. If you see the Big
Blue Truck Tour in your area, go down there. They had $30-50 the
sale prices if you bought that day. The one I looked at was $160
after the discounts. Bosch makes damned nice stuff (at about half
the price of Panasonic.)
My lone question is: How good are their batteries?
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On 27 Apr 2005 03:25:39 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
>> best of the current cordless drills?
>
>On a related note, can anyone recommend a good cordless for $100? My
>wife has a budget. :-(
Try this one:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005R1I1/qid=1114600554/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/103-6449867-4589445?v=glance&s=hi
(watch the word wrap)
I haven't used it, but I've been impressed with Porter-Cable's
quality. It's only 9.6v, but that may be all you need.
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
Seems like the talk of the town is Panasonic these days. I've been looking
at them myself.
jim
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
> best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
> tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
> they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
> of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
> at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
> Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
> sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
> thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
> I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
> anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
> Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
> cordless...
>
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
>
> I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the long-haul,
> so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>
> Thanks,
> Heath
>
On 28 Apr 2005 00:51:35 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Prometheus <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Try this one:
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005R1I1/qid=1114600554/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/103-6449867-4589445?v=glance&s=hi
>>
>
>Thanks for the tip! I took your advice and ordered the PC for $79,
>with 2 batteries, and choose the Best Value and got a third battery
>for free!
Excellent. Let us know how it works! I've been very happy with my
PC691 D-handle router, and I'm seriously considering adding some more
PC to my arsenal.
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:47:01 GMT, "Jim Bailey"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Seems like the talk of the town is Panasonic these days. I've been looking
>at them myself.
>
Panasonic or metabo. it depends on what you want. if you want a the most torque
metabo is the king. it also has cool features like impulse drive and a one
handed chuck.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At the risk of starting a flame-war, anybody have suggestions for the
> best of the current cordless drills? I have a bunch of Dewalt cordless
> tools (tried to stay with one brand for battery compatibility, but
> they're old enough that I'm willing to consider switching) and a couple
> of Makitas. I've been generally happy with both, but I've been looking
> at Porter-Cable as well--ratings for the P-C drills are pretty poor on
> Amazon. I've also noticed that neither Lowes nor home Depot seem to
> sell much P-C anymore--not sure why, or even whether I think it's a bad
> thing. I've never been impressed with Milwaukee cordless tools.
>
> I used to try to buy American, but nothing seems to be made here
> anymore, and in the last couple of years I've bought a few Hitachi and
> Bosch tools, which have all been excellent, but none of those are
> cordless...
>
> I want something fairly lightweight for general purpose drilling and
> screwdriving. It'll be used in a shop, so battery life isn't terribly
> important, and 3/8" capacity is enough. I don't need a hammer drill. I
> do want a good clutch and keyless chuck, and a tool that feels
> right--not sure if that comes mostly from balance or materials or what.
>
> I won't say price isn't an object, but I buy tools for the long-haul,
> so it's pretty far down on the list of considerations.
>
> Thanks,
> Heath
>
"Tattooed and Dusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I would suggest a simple method. Put on your favorite shirt, take SWMBO
> with you to the store, and ask her which one matches your eye color and
> shirt the best.
Then tell her that since she's got such good taste, she should also pay for
it.
Hell, it's worth a try isn't it?
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:01:27 -0400, the inscrutable Robatoy
<[email protected]> spake:
>In article <HSUbe.1914$i73.1303@okepread03>,
> "DanG" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mighty heavy.
>
>There's an up-side to heavy.
>
>If you are driving a lot of screws, the heavier guns will be easier on
>the wrists, but a little harder on the biceps.
Try one of the Bosch Impactors (or other impact drill), Rob. The
need to really hold that puppy into the screw head is gone and it
will drive them with the weight of your arm and the drill. I set a
3" screw into a doug fir 4x4 at arms length/chest height. These are
mazing little beasties. I'm SOLD on that technology for drilling as
much as I was 35 years ago when I found pneumatic impact drivers for
nuts and bolts.
IN fact, the next time I need to drive a bunch of screws into a
project (a deck or sumpin'), I'm thinking of using my old 3/8"
butterfly impact with a square-to-hex converter socket.
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